The Australian reports the latest Newspoll has the Coalition’s two-party lead unchanged at 51-49, with both major parties down a point on the primary vote, the Coalition to 42% and Labor to 34%. The Greens are up two to 12% and One Nation are down one to 4%. Scott Morrison’s approval is unchanged at 66%, and his disapproval is down one to 29%; Anthony Albanese is respectively down three to 41% and up one to 38%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is now 56-26, out from 56-29. The BludgerTrack leadership trends (see also on the sidebar) have been updated with these numbers. The poll was conducted online from Wednesday to Saturday, from a sample of 1512.
UPDATE: The Australian has helpfully published a PDF display of all the poll results, including for a suite of questions on coronavirus and its foreign policy implications. Opinion was divided as to whether the World Health Organisation (34% positive, 32% negative) and United Nations (23% positive, 21% negative) had had a beneficial impact on the crisis, but quite a lot clearer in relation to “Xi Jinping and the Chinese government” (6% positive, 72% negative) and “Donald Trump and the United States government” (9% positive, 79% negative). Further results are available through the link.
Cud Chewer @ #1503 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 4:12 pm
No, as Labor supporters realise there’s no fucking hope of the ALP getting anywhere near government in the foreseeable future.
mundo says:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:01 pm
“Vogon Poet @ #1514 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 4:21 pm
What about suicides provoked by Porter and Tudge ?
Gee, imagine if Labor ever got wind of that.
Scrooter & Co would be toast!
Toast I tells ya!!!!“
The only problem is they already tried this on and there’s no evidence to support the claims. That dog won’t hunt.
Liberals last on the ballot paper. Not as bad as second last, IMO.
God loves the Shooters and Fishers Party, but.
The Labor centrist is piggy-in-the-middle.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/14-candidates-nominate-to-contest-the-eden-monaro-by-election/12340722
Selection of contestants is now wholly driven by marketing data (which is quite sophisticated), and aims to maximise the extent to which the audience identifies with the “contestants”. The whole concept (of this class* of reality TV) is to have the audience live vicariously through the contestants, and this has identification as a pre-requisite.
Judges have in the past been a completely different matter because typically one or more of the judges has had property in the concept (although this is changing)
* As opposed (for example) to the “Big Brother” class, where the goal is for audience to be titilated by the contestants’ appalling (or often merely pathetic) behaviour.
boerwar @ #1548 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 5:02 pm
‘The most corrupt government since Federation’
Jesus Christ!
Does Labor know this?
Seriously, this is something Labor needs to get on to as soon as possible!!!!
No good governments whinging about China. They have given their manufacturing base away to China for years to exploit cheap labour for more company profits.Greedy bastards. The Americans are brainwashed that communists are the worst people that ever lived and China knows it, yet on they go trading with them. Its too fucking late now everything has been sold off to them.China has just taken advantage of the greedy bastards and now are exerting their own authority over Western nations.Tough shit.
A heart warming story to counter all the doom and gloom.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/search-for-missing-teen-william-callaghan-has-happy-ending/news-story/fc5b9bee617c1e7ccc1172854287c7b4
boerwar,
about India,
It’s a savy move by either India or Australia, but what we also need to the equivalant of a NATO like org in SE asia to box in China,
Natural inclusions to this would be India, SK, Japan, Vietnam, Indonesia, And sprinkle in all the oceanic countries. That essentially boxes china in on 3 sides and if you could stand up a mutual protection clause it would very much stifle the belt and roads power grab.
Bucephalus @ #1552 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 5:05 pm
So they did their homework first? No?
‘south says:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:09 pm
boerwar,
about India,
It’s a savy move by either India or Australia, but what we also need to the equivalant of a NATO like org in SE asia to box in China,
Natural inclusions to this would be India, SK, Japan, Vietnam, Indonesia, And sprinkle in all the oceanic countries. That essentially boxes china in on 3 sides and if you could stand up a mutual protection clause it would very much stifle the belt and roads power grab.’
1. Countries that have cause to feel ‘encircled’ tend to get resentful about it. Particularly if it is true.
2. While we need to keep a very careful eye on our national security interests, no amount of aircraft carrier or even peace studies are going to save our sovereignty from over-dependence on China’s economy. IMO, we need to develop more autarchy than we have now.
C@t challenged me to give a substantial critique of Jim Chalmers beyond his Cry Baby moniker. After spending a little time perusing his PhD thesis I have to say I am not impressed. More to come.
boerwar,
I don’t disagree, but that’s a 30 year problem and for the last 20 years (since tampa) the australian navy has been sharpening it’s knife to protect us from the real threat, boat people!
And it’s only a half circle. and it’s not stopping them from doing anything other than ensuring they respect everyone sovereignty
‘By contrast, Australia did avoid a technical recession under the Rudd government during the financial crisis of 2008–09, unlike almost every other developed economy. The Coalition has never recognised that achievement, and at the time it opposed the Rudd government’s second stimulus package, which undoubtedly made an enormous contribution to the national recovery. Worse, the Coalition unfairly maligned elements of the government’s stimulus response, as Rudd wrote in a feisty letter this week to newsletter The Fifth Estate. Not only the pink batts scheme, but also the $900 cash splash and the “school halls” programs all achieved their aims. Not to mention the nation-building NBN, whose fibre-to-the-premises model was undoubtedly superior to the Coalition’s mixed-technology rollout, which will have to be upgraded almost as soon as it is finished being built. ‘ Paddy Manning
How much of this ever made it into the public consciousness.
boerwarsays:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:03 pm
“Quick, subsidize more coal burning!”
https://www.energymatters.com.au/energy-efficiency/australian-electricity-statistics/
Gas = 1,615 mw
Liquid Fuel 133 mw
Total demand =1,845 mw
No wind and SFA Solar.
boerwar
Can’t have that.Just think of all the executive bonuses that will have to be reduced if they can’t use cheap labor ‘over there’ ?
‘At the same time, the goodwill generated by the pandemic response so far has allowed the Morrison government to bury a series of pre-COVID, rolled-gold disasters. Robodebt is the most egregious, and Labor pinned it straight on the PM in Question Time, wielding Scott Morrison’s original press release announcing the program. Then there’s sports rorts, and the various other grant programs that have been heavily skewed to Coalition electorates. And lastly, what about the handling of climate change under the hapless energy and emissions reduction minister, Angus Taylor, and the government’s lamentable response to the Black Summer bushfires, which will be back in the frame soon. Not to mention the government’s ideological war on the ABC, which undoubtedly saved lives through both pandemic and natural disaster, but will nevertheless be cutting jobs and programming to save a paltry $84 million – even as the government splurges billions. There’s speculation that the Morrison government will cruise to victory in an early election next year, but it smells like hubris. ‘ Paddy Manning
Labor needs to get over their fear of Scrooter and channel their inner PJK and/or RJLH….or for that matter EGW.
Christ what more inspiration do they need.
Is Mundo shouting from the rooftops again?
Why Were Out-of-State National Guard Units in Washington, D.C.? The Justice Department’s Troubling Explanation
https://www.lawfareblog.com/why-were-out-state-national-guard-units-washington-dc-justice-departments-troubling-explanation
whatever, either way: he called, they came. a dress rehearsal for 21/01/21 ? -a.v.
E. G. Theodoresays:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:06 pm
“Selection of contestants is now wholly driven by marketing data (which is quite sophisticated), and aims to maximise the extent to which the audience identifies with the “contestants”. The whole concept (of this class* of reality TV) is to have the audience live vicariously through the contestants, and this has identification as a pre-requisite.”
I do think that your analysis probably applies to other Reality TV shows but I don’t watch them.
MasterChef is the only Reality TV I watch and even then it’s only on in the background and I get updated by Mrs B and Daughter B and watch the last 10-15 minutes.
“Judges have in the past been a completely different matter because typically one or more of the judges has had property in the concept (although this is changing)”
They had the same judges for over decade who left due to a commercial dispute. The new ones are doing a great job.
MasterChef hasn’t changed it’s formula except in the current series the new judges were needed and they are doing a past competitor challenge – can’t see much else in the equation has changed.
boerwar @ #1564 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 5:20 pm
Probably, he likes to be close to the moon.
Lizzie:
FR does not work in general (only in special cases). No-one want to be sued for not delivering something they can’t deliver
south says:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:15 pm
“for the last 20 years (since tampa) the australian navy has been sharpening it’s knife to protect us from the real threat, boat people!”
Utter rot. The ANZAC Class Frigates came into service in the early 2000’s, and the Canberra Class and Hobart Class Ships have been commissioned in the last 6 years significantly increasing our surface combat capability – nothing to do with Border protection.
Segment on Channel 10 News.
Regarding China and suggestions that Australian universities are unsafe for Chinese students.
Excellent coverage. Mr. Craig Kelly, Mr. Eric Abetz, Mr. Mathias Cormann making guest appearances. Mr. Morrison said something. Left unsaid is the idea that these matters should be in the hands of the Dept of Foreign Affairs and professional advisors and negotiators (if such there be).
Good coverage of the successful search for a lost 14 year old boy. Great news. A lovely boy and family with a search by a great community. Well done.
Goodnight all. 📺💤
KayJay
I’m disappointed they did not have the Reichspud on for his views, always helpful in such matters. Anyways, good niiiight.
KJ
China can engage in bullshit just like Morrison and Trump. Those 2 are masters at it.
Pat Dodson gave A very fiery speech on incarceration of indigenous, in the Senate. No lack of passion, and attack on government.
boerwar @ #1544 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 3:00 pm
Isn’t India under its current Govt part of the US & friends fascist alliance?
You just got to see this!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270181398268088320
alfred venison @ #1568 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 3:22 pm
A fellow lawfare traveller. My call is Oct 2020, no election extended martial law, Putin type election 2021
Except all indications are it doesn’t so indulge. It waits, plans and strikes when it is in its interests to do so.
Dont talk down communists when they are your biggest trading partners.FFS!! Its total hypocrisy.
lizziesays:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:46 pm
“Pat Dodson gave A very fiery speech on incarceration of indigenous, in the Senate. No lack of passion, and attack on government.”
I doubt that there are many Aboriginals in jail on Federal charges.
WeWantPaulsays:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:47 pm
“alfred venison @ #1568 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 3:22 pm
Why Were Out-of-State National Guard Units in Washington, D.C.? The Justice Department’s Troubling Explanation
Ultimately, one of two things is true: Either § 502(f) does allow the federal government to use out-of-state National Guard troops as it did last week in Washington—for any purpose and under federal control—which is deeply concerning and crying out for some kind of legislative reform. Or it doesn’t, and upwards of 5,000 out-of-state National Guard troops were unlawfully deployed to Washington last week.
Either answer is unsettling, to say the least.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/why-were-out-state-national-guard-units-washington-dc-justice-departments-troubling-explanation
whatever, either way: he called, they came. a dress rehearsal for 21/01/21 ? -a.v.
A fellow lawfare traveller. My call is Oct 2020, no election extended martial law, Putin type election 2021″
…. and I got called a conspiracy theorist the other day without any evidence. What are these two on?
Buce
That was.unworthy.
nath says:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 5:14 pm
C@t challenged me to give a substantial critique of Jim Chalmers beyond his Cry Baby moniker. After spending a little time perusing his PhD thesis I have to say I am not impressed.
It’s not usually possible to make much of an impression on a vacuum.
So, should Morrison buckle to Xi and promise to stop criticizing China so that we can back to milking Chinese students and Chinese tourists?
On something other, I see from the Beeb that no coal has been burnt in the UK to generate electricity – at all – in the last few days. However, apparently some power stations are burning pelletised wood, said to originate from plantations in the US. First I have heard of this fuel………certainly a renewable but growing trees to chop down to make into pellets to fire up electrical generators seems an odd way to go about it. Claim is that such stations have eliminated some huge amount of carbon going in the atmosphere……
boerwar @ #1588 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 6:16 pm
Well, we both have terrible human rights records so…
Bucephalus @ #1584 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 5:57 pm
Let’s face it though, the white supremacist LibNat and Labor Govts since federation have done a very efficient job of kneeling on the throat of our Indigenous culture.
boerwar @ #1588 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 6:16 pm
Considering that he only started criticizing China because he buckled to Trump, yes, he pretty much should. Should have just stayed out of it, and left Trump to fight his own made-up battles.
Tricot says:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:17 pm
“apparently some power stations are burning pelletised wood, said to originate from plantations in the US. First I have heard of this fuel………certainly a renewable but growing trees to chop down to make into pellets to fire up electrical generators seems an odd way to go about it.”
You really should watch the Michael Moore Documentary “Planet of the Humans”:
https://planetofthehumans.com/
Bucephalus @ #1583 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 3:59 pm
I had taken the A.V. comment as part joke part horror prediction and added my own.
Seriously I think ‘no election’ and ‘Biden election win – Trump does not leave office’ are two of the less likely routes for Trump to stay in power regardless of the democratic will to remove him, neither are as ridiculous as believing that climate science is wrong, or somehow exaggerated and there isn’t a climate crisis. The only reason anyone on planet doubts climate science is because vested interests have funded conspiracy theories to achieve that outcome, and have done pretty well at it.
Slightly less silly but still sillier than a theorem Trump would try unconstitutional methods to maintain power is those who still maintain renewables are more expensive / unreliable / bad idea, when we’ve known for 10 years replacing fossil fuels with renewable was economic and sensible and that there was a moral imperative for it. Now that firmed renewable have both a moral and an economic imperative, those sticking to the mindless vested interest attacks on renewables are falling for something slightly less intelligent than a good conspiracy theory and that is one party just lying about the costs of another party.
Anywhoo, have a nice evening.
Rex Douglassays:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:23 pm
It is State and Territory Justice systems that the Aboriginals are in – not Federal (although there may be a couple).
So many people don’t seem to understand how our Constitution or Federation works.
Bucephalus @ #1591 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 6:24 pm
And you should learn to differentiate science fact from science fiction.
When it comes to Kow Towing to China, some of the biggest names have had to do so already. HSBC, which gets half its business/profits via Hong Kong, had to make the tough choice of either supporting the wishes of the Chinese government when it comes to HK or HK………..Having watched Cathay Pacific threatened with extinction by the Chinese government, HSBC signed up with China………………..
Does anyone really think when it comes to we 24 million tucked up here in our huge continent we can just ignore/stick our finger up to the Chinese and they will just shrug and go away? As the Chinese themselves have said, Oz just represents some annoying chewing gum on the soles of Chinese shoes….
The main thrust of the BBC item was to demonstrate that over the last decade the Brits have shifted a long way from their coal/gas based electrical generation process. Good for them, but there are still some in Oz who think coal is the way to go……………particularly those on the right of politics, some of the unions and I guess anyone north of the Tropic of Capricorn in Queensland these days…..
The Labor party’s pink batts scheme was a success.
The CSIRO’s basic research – developed further by Possum Comitatus at Crikey – found the rate of fires, injuries and deaths was actually four times higher during the Howard years than during the period of the home insulation program.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/we-really-must-talk-about-the-pink-batts,5622
Player One says:
Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:30 pm
Michael Moore no longer on the Christmas Card List? No longer the truth teller to the man?
Jacinda is pleased!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270290072999309312
The Bludger answers so far are:
1. We have no choice but to give up a fundamental freedom, the right of free speech, if we want to trade with China.
2. It is personal to Morrison and Trump and Xi, and is therefore not a national issue.
3. Xi’s targetting of Australia is sort of accidental and we should point him back to Trump.