As reported by The Guardian, the fortnightly Essential Research poll (a sequence complicated by a bonus coronavirus poll last week) includes the pollster’s monthly leadership ratings, which reflect the findings of Newspoll in very slightly lesser degree. Scott Morrison is up on approval from 41% to 59% (compared with 41% to 61% in Newspoll) and down on disapproval from 49% to 31% (compared with 53% to 35%), while Anthony Albanese is respectively up from 41% to 44% (compared with 40% to 45%) and down from 33% to 29% (compared with 40% to 36%).
For the fifth successive poll, Essential asked respondents about their level of concern about the threat of coronavirus to Australia, to which the combined very concerned and quite concerned responses climbed from 68% to 63% to 82% to 88%, and has now remained steady at 88%. No information is provided on preferred prime minister — we will have to wait for the full report later today to see, among other things, if the question was asked.
UPDATE: Full report here. Scott Morrison now holds a 46-27 lead as preferred prime minister, out from 40-35 last time (note that the BludgerTrack trends are now updated with the latest Essential and Newspoll numbers). The government’s response is now rated good by 58%, up from 45% a week ago, and poor by 21%, down from 31%. The poll also finds 29% expecting a lengthy recession due to coronavirus; 51% expecting that “the economy will be impacted for 6-12 months or longer and will stagnate or show slow growth thereafter” (which for my tastes is not sufficiently distinct in its wording from the first option); and 11% expecting the economy will “rebound within 2-3 months”. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1069.
Andrew_Earlwood:
Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:12 pm
That’s crude; whereas this not, depending on one’s taste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6S_kx0gDzc
I’ve most likely posted this before – tough!
“And looks a like a cabbage who’s mother smelt of elderberries”
https://youtu.be/cAy4zULKFDU
Mavis…you don’t have to put on a uniform to “serve” your country…..and sometimes those who have think their views should carry more weight than those who don’t/haven’t.
Mavis,
Don’t worry about Andrew, I don’t.
“ Mavis…you don’t have to put on a uniform to “serve” your country…..and sometimes those who have think their views should carry more weight than those who don’t/haven’t.”
Ya think?!?
A-E …..What are you driving at? I thought you were bagging ex-service personnel?
yabba, I’ve quietly observed that you sometimes go from the highly rational to the irrational.
Andrew_Earlwood:
I would never think that those who’ve served in uniform deserve more than those that haven’t?
@Tricot:
“ A-E …..What are you driving at? I thought you were bagging ex-service personnel?”
Extracting some urine from Lt Neidermeyer:
“ I don’t want to be a soldier
I don’t wanna go to war
I’d rather stay at home, around the streets to roam
And live on the earnings of a lady typist
I don’t want a bayonet in my belly
Don’t want my buttocks shot away
I’d rather stay in England
In merry, merry England
And bore the Captain’s ruddy life away.
On Monday I touched on the ankle,
Tuesday I touched her on the knee….
Wednesday I had success,
She lifted up her dress,
Thursday, she touched me cor blimey,
Friday I had me hand upon it
Saturday she gave me balls a tweak,
And on Sunday after supper,
I rammed the fu**er up her,
And now I’m paying thirty bob a week, cor blimey
I don’t want to joint the army,
I don’t want to go to war…
I’d rather hang around Piccadilly Underground,
Living off the earnings of a high-born lady,
I don’t want a bayonet up me arsole,
I don’t want me bo**ocks shot away,
No! I’d rather live in England,
In merrie merrie England,
And fornicate me fu**ing life away, cor blimey….”
“ I would never think that those who’ve served in uniform deserve more than those that haven’t?”
Mavis, is that a statement, question or a riddle?
Confessions @ #2835 Friday, April 10th, 2020 – 8:41 pm
Yes, the guest Charlie Sykes had on was very informative. I especially liked his analysis of his relatives who are die-hard Social Democrats and Bernie Sanders fans.
President Cigar Store Dummy?
I honestly think the Democrats would grind Mike Pence into the dust. He sat by and did nothing about Donald Trump. You don’t need to remind people of any more than that.
1918 Spanish Flu historical documentary
https://youtu.be/UDY5COg2P2c
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.and sometimes those who have think their views should carry more weight than those who don’t/haven’t
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It isn’t just those who have military service who think that. We all, at times, think something in our lived experience makes our point of view important. And in a way it is true. As a wise woman once said ‘everybody has something worth saying’. Nobody has had the exact same experiences. Different perspectives abound. And if you want to get the full picture of a complex 3D object you need to view it from many different origins and angles.
“ I honestly think the Democrats would grind Mike Pence into the dust. He sat by and did nothing about Donald Trump. You don’t need to remind people of any more than that.”
It’s all academic anyway. Trump is going to pardon Joe Exotic, who go on to be the Republican nominee in 2024.
People who serve in the Armed Forces are no better nor worse than the rest of us. Sometimes better, sometimes much better. Sometimes worse, sometimes much worse. And the uniform they wear accords them no greater respect than that worn, and the respect given to, the Police, Paramedics, Doctors or Nurses.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #2862 Friday, April 10th, 2020 – 9:50 pm
Then the Repugs truly would have disappeared up their fundamental aperture. 😐
From Bucephalus’ own potted autobiography it sounds like he’s played dress-ups a lot, but doesn’t get past rehearsals.
“ Then the Repugs truly would have disappeared up their fundamental aperture. ”
Don’t worry. President Camacho has our back.
“ From Bucephalus’ own potted autobiography it sounds like he’s played dress-ups a lot, but doesn’t get past rehearsals.”
Naming one’s handle after Alexander’s horsey indicates a strong bent towards fantasy and a yearning for glories denied.
Andrew_Earlwood
[‘Mavis, is that a statement, question or a riddle?’]
?
AE
Ah yes.. I thought the name was familiar..
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6252884/
Mavis @ #2870 Friday, April 10th, 2020 – 10:12 pm
AE even included the quote of yours he was referring to.
“I would never think that those who’ve served in uniform deserve more than those that haven’t?”
Make your own mind up –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMJ0EmMfb3U
Before I depart for the night I’ll just drop a hint to BB.
Buy HI a Nintendo Switch and a copy of Animal Crossing New Horizons. You’ll never see her again! It’s like crack for mums. You start with a tent on an island and you have to build a functioning civilisation from there. But with the cute and quirky factor dialled up to 11. And it’s no 5 Minute Wonder, either. There’s some hard, strategic thinking required to be able to play it successfully. They say it’s why the world hasn’t gone crazy during the lockdown. Too distracted by the game. 🙂
The Epoch Times is a multi-language newspaper founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese Americans associated with the Falun Gong spiritual movement. Though the newspaper is known for general interest topics with a focus on news about China and its human rights issues, it has become known for its support of U.S. President Donald Trump and favorable coverage of far-right politicians in Europe; a 2019 report showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign. The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television. The group’s news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
It’s Time:
Friday, April 10, 2020 at 10:19 pm
[‘AE even included the quote of yours he was referring to.’]
Your point, dear?
Unless the rules have changed, one can respond to another in a manner one wishes to!
Thank you C@t. I’ll keep it in mind.
Playing Fold.it she’s designed more protein chains than a Wuhan germ warfare factory.
Mavis @ #2876 Friday, April 10th, 2020 – 10:30 pm
Depends on whether you want to be understood. Whatever.
C@tmomma @ #2875 Friday, April 10th, 2020 – 10:26 pm
Yep – as I said – make your own mind up.
There used to shocking nights on this site. No names, though I will say the moderator has cleaned the place up. I will add, however, the ad infinitum C-19 graphs tend to be a tad boring.
Chairman Dan is really locking things down in Victoria. The only state in Australia you can’t play golf is Victoria. All the other states allow golf so long as social distancing precautions are taken. Dan obviously believes a solo golfer can give it to the grass. NSW allows solo fishing as passive exercise. In Victoria all fishing is banned. Obviously Dan thinks you can give it to the fish. Lucky buggars on the Victorian side of the Murray can still fish as once the rod is in the Murray its in NSW so you may dodge Dan’s $1652 fine. Don’t know how that will work in court.
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Friday, April 10, 2020 at 10:10 pm
“ From Bucephalus’ own potted autobiography it sounds like he’s played dress-ups a lot, but doesn’t get past rehearsals.”
Naming one’s handle after Alexander’s horsey indicates a strong bent towards fantasy and a yearning for glories denied.
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I think Incitatus, who was the horsey of Little Boots, and a predecessor of Eric Abetz as senator, is far more apposite.
It’s Time:
[‘Depends on whether you want to be understood. Whatever.’]
Please stop being gormless. How I responed to Andrew was all that I was prepared to do – “?”.
You might also notice that Victoria is doing better than NSW and may well see the virus eliminated sooner than in NSW.
BB
Where’s the link to the Fold it game?
Two words Mavis.
scroll
wheel
“French police turn back private jet of holidaymakers from UK ….. party of 10 flew into Marseille-Provence airport to be taken by helicopter to luxury Cannes villa”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/10/french-police-turn-back-private-jet-of-holidaymakers-from-uk
“South Korean officials have reported 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again, in what they call “reactivated” cases of COVID-19.”
This is really bad news.
Cud Chewer:
[‘Two words Mavis.
scroll
wheel’]
In these times we’re duty-bound not to be boring. We’re happy that you’re doing your bit to be boring, as are so many others. Most have an inkling of graphs, the minutiae thereof.
OC:
My medical oncologist is the only one (of about ten) at the centre where I get infused who puts the needle in himself; the rest get the nurses to do it. Standoff doctors…
Putting the needle provides tactile feedback with the patient typically not aware of the examination and may detect medically relevant information in patients (e,g. with severe anxiety which is quite common in cancer patients)
Possible osteopathic tendencies? I don’t know how many American medical oncologists are DO versus MD (I do know there is very little research output from DO and hence not a lot of pharma money), but I’d imagine DO medical oncologists would put the needle in themselves (and take other opportunities for semi-covert tactile sensing – an important part of the needle case is to sense change since the patient might just not like needles – I don’t mind but I avoid looking). The radiologist who examined my leg infection did so with combined tactile sensing and directing the sonographer – perhaps her only patient examination for the day…)
Visual sensing seems clearly the most important and the da Vinci “robot” experience seems to demonstrate that enhancing vision is a great strategy. Perhaps however we are moving too far towards visual sensing and data (visual signals are known to have undue influence generally). It currently seems very hard to enhance tactile sensing in a useful way:
– vision can easily be enhanced through amplification (magnification), augmentation (via fusion of other signals with accurate registration to the images) and multi-resolution (pathologists look at two magnifications, sometimes three, but computers can look at the whole field at hundreds of magnifications then draw pathologists’ attention to points of interest – smart microscopes are a “thing”)
– auditory can be enhanced by amplification (of course) and perhaps augmentation (though fusion with simultaneous imagery would of course be expensive
– olfactory is difficult even to sense in devices – lots of failed wine tasting devices – but olfactory mostly reported by patients *(or nurses?). Perhaps patient use olfactory devices would be good.
– gustatory is probably as difficult as olfactory, with added problems that it’s not standoff (a “food taster” device destroys the food; a “funny metallic taste” device presumably has to be put in the patient’s mouth)
And apparently these days consultant medical oncologists can’t even direct their registrars to try putting in the needles – perhaps the memories of buggering it up whilst a resident are too strong! It’s definitely a talent – one emergency doctor completed it perfectly in less than a minute from entry to exit of my room, much of the time taken to establish I was actually the right patient – but some ED residents can be umming and arring for ages and end up with something that only lasts for one infusion, though I guess an ED needle only has to last a few hours to stabilise the patient?
OC:
Did the rumours say whether the infected doctor on ECMO to test the ECMO unit (as a sort of volunteer) or because invasive ventilation had failed?
Was is correct. Could have been is correct in the sense that the risk could not reasonably have been properly understood (but now it is).
Some countries have done better than others. Australia and New Zealand have both done very well and have been assisted by being islands and having low population density.. All countries will need to optimise their policies (Australia would probably have done better with improved border control but on the other hand the cruise ship provided a wake up call that was heeded by the populace).
More importantly, whilst it seems clear the clear that the virus can be controlled (at least in islands with low population density and in authoritarian states) it’s not clear that control can maintained if one relaxes the controls to the extent that the economy can be restarted as it was.
This is becoming more relevant since:
– previously infected patients who have been cleared (two negative tests with a time gap?) can get it again (reactivation per the post of Diogenes), indicating either an unreliable test plus an extremely long period of continued infection or re-infection
– some infected hospitalised and recovered patients do not have detectable antibodies, indicating either incorrect diagnosis (very unlikely to have multiple false positive tests and symptoms consistent with COVID19 requiring hospitalisation) or (more likely) that they did not develop immunity. This would have negative implications both for vaccine development and for herd immunity howsoever induced
This may mean that the economy must robust to viral epidemics, both:
– because there will be more novel viruses and they might also be increasing in frequency (what happen of two hit at the same time?); and
– because it’s quite likely that there will be multiple waves in the US and in large developing countries (intercontinental waves can presumably be controlled at borders, preventing a repeat of the 1918-20 pandemic)
This would in turn mean very considerable economic reforms, including:
– distribution both to reduce contact and increase supply chain robustness through horizontal sourcing close to the point of use, and also increase dependability more generally
– automation of tasks currently requiring physical presence
– reform of the online social economy, since FaceBook in particular is inconsistent with civilization
– reform of the Internet to support all of the above (technically this is easy given the original Internet architecture, but the politics are more difficult)
ECMO Capacity
In Victoria, there is an ongoing process of ECMO development at:
– https://www.bettersafercare.vic.gov.au/reports-and-publications/adult-extracorporeal-membrane-oxygenation-ecmo-in-victoria
Latest report is from 2019, linked in above.
They use a three tier architecture with at least 16 ECMO initiating centres:
– Single central unit at the Alfred
– A few intermediate units with low volumes
– A number very small volume units where ECMO is initiated but patient then retrieved to the Alfred (and the initiation and retrieval performed by staff from the Alfred)
They note:
– Retrieved patients do significantly worse than those initiated at the Alfred and the higher volume intermediate centres, even though the vast majority of retrievals are performed by teams from the Alfred
– Due to the nature of the architecture, It is currently very difficult to work out what the capacity is, and this should a priority for for investigation
– Centralisation at the Alfred places a hard limit on surge capacity, which would be a problem in an epidemic, and this should also be a priority for reform (oops too late..)
Proposed policy change is to limit the number of intermediate units to two, which would enable them to get similar volumes to those at the Alfred and expand the surge capacity. Not sure how far they’ve got, but we may find out.
So in the UK he would likely have been Artists Rifles Regiment; perhaps then he could have been Arts Minister instead of the unfortunate Mr Harwin?
Just went past 100,000 deaths…
http://Www.fold.it
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/this-is-how-america-s-coronavirus-response-went-wrong-20200409-p54ii6.html
Coming in this week at No.1 on The American Top 40 we have…..
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Coronavirus Becomes Leading Cause of Death in U.S.
COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the deadliest disease in the United States, killing more people per day than cancer or heart disease.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/coronavirus-becomes-leading-cause-of-death-in-us/ar-BB12o7aQ?li=BBnb7Kz
Diogenes:
Ah – “reactivation” means not reinfected nor false negatives but that virus goes undetectable and then reactivates for some (unknown) reason. Meaning that some fraction of “recovered” aren’t, and possibly that quarantine (perhaps with daily testing) is needed for apparently recovered patients
See:
– https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-koreans-test-positive-20200408-ddyrrwlji5bjpnrp3rpqtfgkyu-story.html
– https://www.businessinsider.com.au/south-korea-coronavirus-reactivate-unlikely-dormancy-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
– https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7102560/
Thanks BB
Very interesting 🙂