Way back between December 6 and 8, an online poll of 1016 respondents was conducted by Dynata for the Institute of Public Affairs covering myriad issues, results of which have been apportioned out piecemeal ever since. The latest serving seeks to counter the consistent finding of other pollsters that the nation’s most trusted news organisation is the ABC. The results have naturally been received with skepticism in some quarters, although asking respondents if they feel the ABC “does not represent the views of ordinary Australians” only seems dubious in that it’s framed in the negative for no clear reason. The poll found 30% in agreement with the proposition versus 32% who disagreed, leaving 38% on the fence.
The result has been elevated to a vote of no confidence in the organisation by Coalition Senator James McGrath (who I suspect might be surprised if he learned how many of its critics are on the left), while a News Corp report seizes on the result for the 18-24 age cohort to suggest the ABC has lost the esteem of the young. The latter overlooks a sub-sample size that would imply an error margin upwards of 10%. The survey period also predated the worst of the bushfires, which have presumably been good for the broadcaster’s public image. Previous results from the survey have covered the date for Australia Day, local councils making political statements and the powers of unelected bureaucrats and removing references to race from the Constitution.
Some news on state (and territory) affairs, including updates on two of the three by-election campaigns currently in progress, guides to which can be accessed on the sidebar:
• The Northern Territory by-election for the northern Darwin seat of Johnston will be held on February 29, an unwelcome development for Michael Gunner’s struggling Labor government ahead an election on August 22. Much attention was focused on the Greens’ decision to put Labor last on its how-to-vote cards, but it may also prove consequential that the Country Liberals have Labor ahead of the Territory Alliance, the new party formed by former CLP Chief Minister Terry Mills. The party’s candidate, Steven Klose, has been boosted by suggestions the party could emerge as the official opposition if it wins the seat, since it would have three seats to the Country Liberals’ two if Mills is joined by Klose and Jeff Collins, an ex-Labor independent who says he is a “50-50 chance” of joining the party. Tune in to the blog on Saturday for live results reporting with more bells and whistles than you might think the occasion properly demands.
• Labor’s candidate for Queensland’s Bundamba by-election will be Lance McCallum, a former Electrical Trades Union official and current executive director of the Just Transition Group, a government body to help energy workers whose jobs might be lost amid the transition to renewables. Michael McKenna of The Australian ($) reports McCallum was nominated unopposed after winning the endorsement of the Left, to which the seat is reserved under factional arrangements. A rival candidate for the Left faction’s ballot, Nick Thompson, had the backing of the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union, whose state secretary Michael Ravbar has disputed the legitimacy of the result. The only other known candidate is Sharon Bell of One Nation, who was the party’s federal candidate in Blair last year. No word on a Liberal National Party candidate, but The Australian reports the party is “expected to run”, despite the 21.6% Labor margin. Nominations close on Tuesday.
• A Tasmanian parliamentary committee report has recommended restoring the state’s House of Assembly to 35 seats, from which it was cut to 25 in 1998. Each of the state’s five electoral divisions have returned five members under the Hare-Clark proportional representation system, compared with seven seats previously. An all-party agreement was previously in place to do this in 2010 and 2011, before the then Liberal opposition under Will Hodgman withdrew support as a riposte to government budget cuts. No recommendations have been made in relation to the Legislative Council, which was cut from 19 to 15 in 1998, except insofar as the committee considered the possibility of it have dedicated indigenous seats.
Also, note below this one the latest guest post from Adrian Beaumont, covering recent developments involving the nationalist Sinn Finn party in Ireland and the far right Alternative fur Deutschland in Germany, along with yet another election in Israel.
So now BB is accusing Pegasus of being a 21st Century Typhoid Mary
What a scintillating development!
Puffytmd @ #1150 Sunday, March 1st, 2020 – 11:59 pm
fixing errors.
Ray (UK) @ #941 Sunday, March 1st, 2020 – 12:38 pm
NT by-election, preferences
Antony Green posted this last night, all though this is only pre-polls
Scored preference flow data from pre-polls. Greens split 56% Labor, 44% Territory Alliance, CLP 48% to Labor 52% TA, Braedon Earley 30% Labor 70% TA, Independents split 50:50 #ntpol #JohnstonVotes So Green voters only just favoured Labor and HTV had an impact
The value to Labor of the Greens posture in the NT was not in the prefs that flowed from the Greens to Labor. The value was that the Greens conspicuously opposed Labor, in turn encouraging prefs to flow to Labor from the Right. The more the Greens do to attack Labor – to distinguish themselves – the better it will be for Labor. The more the Greens assault Labor the deeper will be the alienation of Labor voters from Green themes. This can only be an electoral advantage for Labor.
The Greens are a committed anti-Labor voice. The more that voters appreciate this the easier it will be for Labor to restore its plurality. Labor should not miss any opportunity to put distance between itself and the Greens.
Morning all. Covid19 spread is gathering speed, finding chinks in the international health armour. If we are to beconsistent, we should be banning flights from Italy, which has announced almost as many new cases as China in the past day. As usual we will wait till after the USA does something.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/italy-s-coronavirus-cases-soar-to-more-than-1100-as-top-us-agency-says-cancel-all-travel-20200301-p545op.html
Socrates,
Life imitating art, or just viral marketing? 😉
Making a Plague Movie, With Coronavirus on the Doorstep
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/world/europe/coronavirus-movie-italy-decameron.html
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/summers-are-starting-earlier-finishing-later-and-winter-is-in-retreat-20200301-p545r0.html
Spring has sprung again – my carnations are flowering again.
Good morning all.
Socrates @ #1154 Monday, March 2nd, 2020 – 5:47 am
Jeez, those Populist Authoritarian Right Wing governments, like in Italy and America; Populist Authoritarian Theocratic governments, like in Iran and America; and Populist Authoritarian Left Wing governments, like in China, are really showing us how their new way of governing countries is a goat track!
A creative way to stem the spread of the Carona Virus.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1234108517272969217
Puffytmd @ #1150 Monday, March 2nd, 2020 – 12:29 am
You left out expectorators. Well, the people who walk on it. 🙁
Good morning Dawn Patrollers
Bevan Shields tells us how the Italian coronavirus cases are surging and panic has set in across Europe. The Louvre has been closed.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/louvre-closed-as-italian-coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-and-panic-sets-in-across-europe-20200302-p545v1.html
According to Matt Wade the coronavirus and bushfire emergencies could cut economic growth in NSW to the slowest rate in nearly three decades.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/twin-shocks-to-hit-the-nsw-economy-hard-20200301-p545t0.html
The former chair of the Global Health Council talks about the mentality that left the world vulnerable to the Covid-19 epidemic and what can be done to minimise its effects
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/the-worst-case-scenario-for-coronavirus-dr-jonathan-quick-q-and-a-laura-spinney
The coronavirus outbreak has reminded us of the importance of public health responses in managing the spread of disease writes Hassan Vally as he reminds of how smallpox, seatbelts and smoking were 3 ways public health has saved lives from history to the modern day.
https://theconversation.com/smallpox-seatbelts-and-smoking-3-ways-public-health-has-saved-lives-from-history-to-the-modern-day-128300
‘Disgusting’ Asian markets selling bats are to blame for the coronavirus, according to multicultural affairs minister Jason Wood. But the former cop’s Facebook post has sparked condemnation from Labor, which has accused him of “fear mongering” when Australia should be trying to unite to fight the virus threat writes Sam Maiden. Wood never did strike me as being the sharpest tool in the shed.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/03/01/jason-wood-asian-markets/
Michael Pascoe reasons that the RBA shouldn’t cut rates in the fight against coronavirus.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2020/03/01/pascoe-rba-coronavirus/
Greg Jericho gives us the truth about budget surpluses. It’s revenue, not spending, that counts he says.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2020/mar/01/the-truth-about-budget-surpluses-its-revenue-not-spending-that-counts
The Communications Minister says content obligations need to be updated if local producers are to survive and thrive in the age of global streaming services.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/paul-fletcher-warns-laws-must-change-to-save-local-film-and-tv-from-sharp-declines-20200301-p545pj.html
Shaun Carney explains how these aren’t the best of times for left-wing parties in large parts of the developed world. He looks at how Albanese is positioning Labor in these circumstances and warns that leaving the heavy lifting for later carries a lot of risks.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-is-still-leaving-the-heavy-lifting-for-later-20200228-p545f1.html
Shane Wright explains how small and medium-sized businesses are expecting the summer’s bushfires to hit their bottom lines for the next year as higher costs, low customer confidence and disruptions to travel weigh on their ability to survive.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/small-business-expects-fire-impact-for-another-year-20200301-p545r8.html
Hundreds of farmers and small businesses have been left in limbo as bushfire relief payments slow to a crawl, with the Commonwealth and Berejiklian governments blaming each other for the delays.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/bushfire-relief-for-business-farms-slows-as-politicians-bicker-over-rules-20200301-p545r5.html
And Daren Gray writes that economists are saying federal stimulus measures worth up to tens of billions of dollars are needed economists say as they warn more Australian companies are likely to announce profit warnings due to coronavirus.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/call-for-billions-in-stimulus-with-warnings-of-more-profit-downgrades-20200301-p545py.html
Ross Gittins examines the drivers for Australia’s dismal productivity performance.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/productivity-problem-start-at-the-bottom-not-the-top-20200301-p545qx.html
Rob Harris reports that in a speech today Scott Morrison will force every Commonwealth agency to put greater value on buying recycled content as he foreshadows further government intervention to build a market for the nation’s waste sector ahead of a looming export ban.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-flags-recycle-product-push-as-export-ban-looms-20200301-p545sq.html
In a rather downbeat contribution Sean Kelly looks at Morrison’s response to the coronavirus issue and how he might handle climate change.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/a-tough-response-on-coronavirus-plays-to-the-pm-s-strengths-20200301-p545pe.html
Anthony Galloway writes that lenders missing out on lucrative green energy loan contracts have accused a Commonwealth body that injects billions of taxpayer dollars into renewable energy projects, the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, of having a sweetheart deal with one company and locking others out of the market.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/clean-energy-finance-corporation-accused-of-favouritism-20200301-p545rk.html
Americans could hopefully rely on the federal government to provide accurate information about a global health emergency. Unfortunately, they can’t writes Matthew Knott.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-s-post-truth-presidency-collides-with-a-global-health-emergency-20200301-p545sc.html
A second potential agent of a foreign power has been caught up by the government’s controversial register to counter foreign influence, as the Morrison government looks to beef up its national security laws.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/register-catches-another-potential-agent-of-foreign-influence-20200301-p545rx.html\
Law professor Beth Gaze opines that the exceptions for religious organisations in proposed in the latest religious discrimination bill are too wide.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/exceptions-for-religious-organisations-in-proposed-bill-are-too-wide-20200227-p5452h.html
This guy has other ideas.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/scare-campaign-against-bill-uses-hypotheticals-but-real-people-need-its-protection-20200301-p545qq.html
Australia’s internet speeds continue to lag behind that of other nations, says Laurie Patton who declares that the NBN offering is not good enough for 21st Century Australia.
https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/nbn-offering-not-good-enough-for-21st-century-australia,13647
Peter Fitzsimons says that Jacinda Ardern was right to call out Morrison for deporting ‘Aussie’ Kiwis.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/ardern-right-to-call-out-morrison-for-deporting-aussie-kiwis-20200228-p545fw.html
Bryce Edwards says taking on Scott Morrison over deportees is a win-win strategy for Jacinda Ardern.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/mar/02/taking-on-scott-morrison-over-deportees-is-a-win-win-strategy-for-jacinda-ardern
Kaye Lee writes that the appalling behaviour of politicians must stop.
https://theaimn.com/the-appalling-behaviour-of-politicians-must-stop/
In support of the release of her new book Sam Maiden tells us about the operations of Labor and Liberal dirt units.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/03/02/bill-shorten-dirt-unit-bronwyn-bishop-choppergate-sussan-ley/
The SMH editorial says that practical proposals for reforming the criminal justice system to improve prospects for child sexual abuse complainants are both welcome and necessary.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/timely-moves-to-ease-legal-burden-on-child-sexual-abuse-victims-20200301-p545td.html
Unsurprisingly, Clive Palmer will fight fraud charges claiming they had “no merit”, were a “nonsense” and that the corporate watchdog was an “embarrassment”.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6656286/palmer-attacks-asic-over-fraud-charges/?cs=14231
Adele Ferguson reveals that Alinta Energy was sold to a Chinese company on the condition it protected its customers’ data but leaked documents reveal the privacy promise may have been broken.
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/credit-cards-addresses-and-phone-numbers-vulnerable-more-than-one-million-energy-customers-privacy-at-risk-20200228-p545bw.html
The Australian Financial Review attacked Senator Rex Patrick this week after Patrick attacked Energy Australia chief Catherine Tanna, suggesting she step down from the board of the Reserve Bank for running a company whose tax haven structure helped it pay zero tax on $30 billion of income. Michael West corrects the record.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/tanna-taxation-correcting-the-fin-review-and-energy-australia/
Royce Millar writes that the Andrews government is bracing for potentially damaging revelations and the possible naming of a senior government figure in connection to a controversial rezoning push in Melbourne’s south-east, when the anti-corruption watchdog resumes its hearings into the Casey land scandal on Monday.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/i-ve-got-dirt-andrews-government-braces-as-casey-corruption-hearings-resume-20200229-p545li.html
Trump’s comments on the spread of the virus have lent weight to the perception that he’s minimising the potential for harm in search of political gain. Here his remarks are fact checked.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/fact-check-trump-s-unreliable-comments-on-the-coronavirus-20200301-p545qy.html
Poor Harvey!
https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/2020/03/01/harvey-weinstein-hits-rock-bottom-in-guarded-nyc-hospital-cell/
Cartoon Corner
David Rowe
Peter Broelman
Matt Golding
Mark David
Glen Le Lievre
John Spooner goes to China.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/2d5f341b62cc127848f20a5f8681ced3?width=1024
From the US
A creative way to stem the spread of the Carona Virus.
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It might catch on, GG!
Dr Jonathan Quick
Morning all, thanks BK.
I’ve got a friend who has booked a trip to Europe including Italy with her husband in a couple months, and coronavirus has thrown their plans into chaos. Flights keep getting changed or cancelled, it’s unclear whether travel insurance covers the cost of these changes, and they lose money if they cancel altogether. Worse is that she was really looking forward to the trip, their first to Europe.
This by Shaun Carney encapsulates Labor’s current weakness, for me. The first shock of loss led to an over-reaction and negated all the policy work that had been done.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-is-still-leaving-the-heavy-lifting-for-later-20200228-p545f1.html
Morning all. Thank you, BK.
They have shut the Louvre.
The C19 merde has hit the ventilateur.
Hundreds of farmers and small businesses have been left in limbo as bushfire relief payments slow to a crawl, with the Commonwealth and Berejiklian governments blaming each other for the delays.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/bushfire-relief-for-business-farms-slows-as-politicians-bicker-over-rules-20200301-p545r5.html
Ah, so that’s how they do it! Buck passing until people give up.
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Carney shows zero self-awareness. His is behaving like a player – basically a pseudo political adviser to the Leader of the Opposition.
Policy can go hang, according to Carney.
What deprived Labor of the 8 vital seats was that it was tarred with the Greens’ policies brush in rural and regional seats. Here are the practical consequences of just some of the Greens’ rural and regional industries.
1. Pulling GMO cotton and GMO canola.
2. Reducing irrigation by at least 605,000 megalitres
3. Piling on ecosystem service obligation regulations.
4. Closing feedlots.
5. Closing piggeries.
6. Closing down aquaculture.
7. Closing down the uranium industry.
8. Closing down the coal industry.
9. Closing down the live export trade.
10. Closing down defence industries.
Beyond that, Labor failed to develop simple and direct messages about its reforms which enabled paid liars to spread paid for lies about Labor’s policies.
‘Sky News Australia
@SkyNewsAust
· 18h
Outsiders host @rowandean says while he was “deeply disturbed” by Bettina Ardnt’s comments on Hannah Clarke, he thinks the Senate motion to condemn her was a “complete violation” of freedom of speech. ‘
Like, Arndt can say what she likes. Dean should be able to write what he likes. And the Senate should just STFU?
Perceptive Sean Kelly:
Mumble wrote something similar just after the election. He said the media narrative usually shapes how parties respond to election results, or something.
C@tmomma @ #1167 Monday, March 2nd, 2020 – 7:48 am
The only thing the Feds are interested in is their surplus. Slowing revenue distribution helps them achieve that objective.
Boerwar
I agree. The messaging has been weak.
It’s a small cog in the world scheme of things, but my water supply failed overnight. It’s always a shock to turn on a tap and nothing comes out. How spoiled we are. 🙁
lizzie @ #1174 Monday, March 2nd, 2020 – 8:09 am
I have 3 big tanks. For a reason.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1234147319437721600
You’ve done it again BK.
Lotsa good reading with the Dawn Patrol.
Take a very large copper bottomed saucepan and place several smooth stones in the bottom, turn on gentle heat and then add 👇👇
From the BK Files©.
Peter Fitzsimons says that Jacinda Ardern was right to call out Morrison for deporting ‘Aussie’ Kiwis.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/ardern-right-to-call-out-morrison-for-deporting-aussie-kiwis-20200228-p545fw.html
Bryce Edwards says taking on Scott Morrison over deportees is a win-win strategy for Jacinda Ardern.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/mar/02/taking-on-scott-morrison-over-deportees-is-a-win-win-strategy-for-jacinda-ardern
Salt and pepper to taste
Add 👇👇
lizzie
Monday, March 2nd, 2020 – 7:33 am
Comment #1163
Stir gently
Pour in 👇👇
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/editorials/managing-an-ungracious-guest/news-story/78bc4f8b72b6c54e4f80484eed4d971d
If we play our cards cleverly could we send some of our dinky di, true blue, home grown ratbag type politicians instead ❓
You know how it goes pour out everthing apart from the stones which should now be soft. Eat stones.
P.S. All the items are behind paywalls. How does the casual reader differentiate ❓
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/postcolonial-blog/2020/mar/02/captain-cooks-cottage-the-place-he-didnt-ever-call-home
Morning all
Much appreciation BK
For those interested in getting clear information about the current situation.
Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
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Friends, I will broadcast another LIVE video tonight on
@Twitter
around 6pm ET to discuss the latest news on the #CoronavirusOutbreak, what’s next, and what you can do to protect yourself and your loved ones.
ICYMI: here’s last night’s video.
#coronavirus #COVID19
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Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
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I spent years developing an #Ebola treatment. From the outset, I have been VERY concerned about the #pandemic risk for this #coronavirus.
VIDEO answering your questions about the #CoronavirusOutbreak, and what you can do to protect yourself.
#COVID19
https://pscp.tv/w/cSpvSTFkdktPWlduZGtwUVh8MW1ueGVRZWVZeVJ4WEy-NjcZyokXi-WhZeBeTfcVE_DUI1MTRMclysz4hUho
Interesting question of why entry from Iran into Australia hasn’t been banned except via quarrantine. Things may not be nice in northern Italy or South Korea but you can at least have some faith in their medical systems and transparency; Iran not so much.
@Confessions, pass this onto your friends.
If the insurance was purchased before the Corona Virus became a known event then the costs should be covered BUT deciding to cancel because of a personal concern won’t be.
My Sister & Brother in law were on the Diamond Princess Asian cruise and because my Brother in Law was diagnosed before the flight back they are still in a Tokyo hospital. Insurance is covering all out of pocket expenses.
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-impacts-to-overseas-travel-insurance/ba6755a8-492d-43cf-b7d2-2cf776b41bb8
We should be quarantining everyone from China, Korea, Iran, Italy and France.
Holden hillbilly
What about the USA?
Turkey has now rejoined the Syrian War in a big way. Its previous invasion of Syrian territory was to drive the Kurds from areas adjacent to the Turkish border:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/turkey-destroys-syrian-army-targets-says-defence-minister
The Turks have been trying to inveigle NATO to join the War but since the Turks have invaded rather than been invaded they have little hope.
One of the Turkish weapons has been the threat to push around a million Syrian refugees across the border into Europe.
Russia is now juggling trying not to get involved in a hot war with Turkey while continuing to use military means to foster the War objectives of the Assad Government.
The Turks are by far and away the preponderant military force in and around the Idlib Province battlefields.
One imagines that C19 testing is the least of anyone’s concerns in Idlib.
When I was a teenager, I would have thought this was a good thing …
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/02/climate-crisis-cutting-short-australias-winters-and-extending-summers
Summer a month longer? Winter a month shorter? What could possibly go wrong! 🙁
Kevin Antaw:
Many thanks for that, I’ll pass it on to my friend.
Fess
a couple of my extended family members were due to leave for the USA today.
They had insurance that stipulated that no reason was required for cancellation.
They have lodged their claim with insurer. Interesting to see exactly how much out of pocket they are going to be
Johnston by-election shows voters may be turning away from Labor and the CLP ahead of the 2020 NT election
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-02/nt-johnston-by-election-wash-up-labor-clp-territory-alliance/12014852
“Orange clown pufferfish routine”. 😆
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/opinion/sunday/trump-coronavirus-response.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
ABC RN Breakfast:
Australian summers getting longer, data shows
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/australian-summers-getting-longer-data-shows/12015722
Guest: Richie Merzian, Director, Climate and Energy Programme, Australia Institute
Vic:
I don’t know the exact circumstances of my friend’s travel insurance, but when I spoke to her on Friday she was at her wits end. She said they’ve changed connecting flights twice now because of onward flight cancellations in Europe which is also impacting their accommodation bookings.
Fess
I can well understand the frustration
If it were me, I would put off any travel at present.
Listening to Fran for half an hour this morning riding shotgun for her boy Scrotty….she was blasting away like Annie Oakley….didn’t hit a thing….
The Viral Blame Game: Xenophobia, Attribution and Coronavirus
https://theaimn.com/the-viral-blame-game-xenophobia-attribution-and-coronavirus/
Me too, irrespective of the cost of cancellations.
Hey Bullshit Bill, you surfaced yet? I went a scrolling through last night’s verbal diarrhoea only to find this little mistruth:
Itza Dream tells me I’m “old, pale and stale” for being concerned about the bullshit masquerading as sage advice coming from our “medical authorities”. At least I think that’s why he’s off with his Dymo labeller yet again. Maybe he just thinks it’s not cool, or a bit “Boomery” to be in the demographic that coronavirus is scything its grim reaper path through? Another socially responsible, issue aware, psychopath I guess, is our Itza.
I’ve no idea nor care about who you’re referring to, except to point out that it’s not me. NOT ME. So shove your ‘pyschopath’ accusations into any orifice otherwise unoccupied with your own self-importance, while I remind you that the last time I made the mistake of addressing you, it was to ask for a reference to your bloated assertion that ‘no property with roof sprinklers has ever burnt down’ and for which I sensibly didn’t hold my boomery 71 yr old breath.
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David Lindenmayer and Doug Robinson:
Logging is due to start in fire-ravaged forests this week. It’s the last thing our wildlife needs
https://theconversation.com/logging-is-due-to-start-in-fire-ravaged-forests-this-week-its-the-last-thing-our-wildlife-needs-132347