The second Newspoll conducted under the new regime of online polls conducted by YouGov records the Coalition with a 52-48 lead, out from 51-49 a fortnight ago. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up a point to 42%, Labor is steady on 33%, the Greens are down one to 11% and One Nation is steady on 5%. Both leaders’ personal ratings are improved after weak results last time, with Scott Morrison up two on approval to 45% and down four on disapproval to 48%, and Anthony Albanese up two to 40% and down four to 41%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is out from 46-35 to 48-34.
Respondents were also asked to rate the leaders according to nine attributes, eight positive and one negative. Morrison scored higher than Albanese for the experience (68-64), decisiveness and strength (60-51) and having a vision for Australia (60-54), while Albanese had the edge on caring for people (60-55). There was essentially nothing to separate them on understanding the major issues (57-56 to Albanese), likeability (56-56), being in touch with voters (50-49 to Albanese) and trustworthiness (49-48). However, Morrison’s worst result was his 58-40 lead on the one negative quality that was gauged – arrogance.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1503. The Australian’s paywalled report of the results is here.
In other poll news, a uComms poll (apparently minus the ReachTEL branding now) for the Courier-Mail ($) suggests Queensland’s embattled Deputy Premier, Jackie Trad, is in grave danger of losing her seat of South Brisbane to the Greens. The poll shows the Greens on 29.4%, Labor on 27.5% and the Liberal National Party on 26.6%, with 10.4% undecided. Labor is credited with a 52-48 lead on respondent-allocated preferences, but this may flatter Labor given the LNP’s announcement that they would direct preferences against them. No field work date is provided that I can see, but the sample size was 700. The deficiencies of automated phone polls in inner city seats were noted by Kevin Bonham, among others.
UPDATE: In better poll news still, the results from the post-election Australian Election Study survey are available in all their glory, courtesy of the Australian National University. You can view the ANU’s overview of the findings here, but the real fun of this resource is that it allows you to cross-tabulate responses to 3143-respondent survey across a dizzying range of variables. The survey also includes demographic weightings that presume to correct for the biases introduced by the survey process. The survey also addresses a long-standing criticism by including a component of 968 respondents who also completed the 2016 survey, allowing for study of the changing behaviour of the same set of respondents over time.
Rest assured you will be hearing a great deal more about the survey going forward, but for the time being, here’s one set of numbers I have crunched for starters. This shows the primary vote broken down into three age cohorts, and compares them with the equivalent figures from the 2016 survey. This produces some eye-catching results, particularly in regard to a probably excessive surge in support for the Coalition among the middle-aged cohort – mostly at the expense of “others”. By contrast, the young cohort swung heavily to the left, while the boomers were relatively static.
“sprocket_,
Well, The Greens posters here show no respect for anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They get it back, due to the ‘what comes around, goes around’ maxim. Though, since Albanese’s speech on the weekend I have decided to be more respectful and let them get on with it how they choose to and not reply to any of it.”
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Safer for you not to reply to those pesky Greens, isn’t it. Means you can ignore inconvenient questions such as whether you support Adani or not.
Ignore us if you wish but I wonder how much longer can you ignore your own conscious? You know Adani is wrong, otherwise you would’ve simply come out in support of it by now. If there’s nothing wrong with it then why can’t you say that you support it?
Don’t listen to me, Cat. Ignore me. Listen to what your own conscious is telling you.
“Also, I would like Buce to stand in the middle of one of NSW’s Many, many fires and say it’s all ‘Climate Change Alarmism’.”
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Indeed. The far right would rather stick their heads in the sand though and keep denying the obvious.
From AES 2019:
Shorten had the two lowest “inspiring” ratings of any party leader since 1993:
Howard 1998 – 26
Rudd 2007 – 59
Howard 2007 – 39
Gillard 2010 – 42
Abbott 2010 – 28
Rudd 2013 – 31
Abbott 2013 – 33
Shorten 2016 – 24
Turnbull 2016 – 38
Shorten 2019 – 21
Morrison 2019 – 40
Labor Leaders have the highest and three lowest “Trustworthy” ratings since the question was first asked in the 2001 survey:
Rudd 2007 – 66
Howard 2007 – 41
Gillard 2010 – 40
Abbott 2010 – 36
Rudd 2013 – 29
Abbott 2013 -40
Shorten 2016 – 33
Turnbull 2016 – 45
Shorten 2019 – 30
Morrison 2019 – 46
Shorten also claims lowest “Honest” ratings of any leader since 2001:
Rudd 2007 – 72
Howard 2007 – 45
Gillard 2010 – 48
Abbott 2010 – 43
Abbott 2013 – 45
Rudd 2013 – 38
Shorten 2016 – 37
Turnbull 2016 – 45
Shorten 2019 – 34
Morrison 2019 – 49
lizzie @ #48 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 7:38 am
Because Joel Fitzgibbon represents real people, lizzie, with real families that they love and care about. That’s one thing that I did learn about on the weekend, you can’t just toss them on the scrapheap of life. You have to be a bit more sophisticated than that.
A good example was given on the weekend about the people who were put out of work from one of the Brown Coal power stations in Victoria. They were made to do 2 retraining courses and then followed up 12 months later. 99% of them had not gotten a job that those training courses ‘equipped’ them for. The majority of them had gone out and found jobs at Barwon Prison.
You can’t be all pie-in-the-sky about these people, you have to approach their futures realistically, and their futures are their family and keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table for them. Caring about them. Labor’s first and foremost reason for being, that is, as a party that represents Workers.
As I also said, Labor won’t shed a tear if the Supply and Demand curve for coal kicks in. Even then though, they will organise a just transition for the workers, or maybe the workers will organise one for themselves.
Joel Fitzgibbon has just become The Greens’ bogeyman because they don’t, at the end of the day, really care about the Workers. They aren’t a Workers Party.
Sure, Climate Change is horrifyingly real and we, as a country, need to deal with it, like, yesterday. However, so was the Hungry Mile a very real part of Australia’s history, and it was only the Australian Labor Party who cared about the Workers then, as they do today and as they always will. That’s who we are.
At this stage, you’d have to say there is no apparent buyer’s remorse regarding the election of Morrison and the LNP last May from mainstream voters.
Morrison’s calm and measured response to the bushfires seems to be resonating positively with the voters.
My observation is that most people are disengaged from politics and few see solutions arising from the increasingly polarised nature of political discussion and advocacy atm.
Great set of links, BK. Thanks!
The Conversation report on research about evangelical churches tacitly encouraging DV deserves a wide audience.
It tells us why evangelical churches, such as Hillsong and others, should be treated as antisocial. They are part of the problem.
https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437
Thank you BK for the Dawn Patrol.
Cartoons excellent as usual.
My plan for Christmas is to beaver away perfecting a “Sewer Capable” suit to protect against the pyrocraptic* flow emanating from uphill somewhere over there . 👆👇👈👉🧭
The correct response is the traditional 🖕
*A pyrocraptic flow (also known as a pyrocraptic density current or a pyrocraptic cloud) is a fast-moving current of hot gas and faecal matter (collectively known as merde) that moves away from a politician about 100 km/h (62 mph) on average but is capable of reaching speeds up to 700 km/h (430 mph).
My long term plan is to tunnel into the Federal Parliament Building and effect a rescue of the cleaning and catering staff.
Song for the day. Sung in a rollicking sea shanty style.
♫ Well there’s ♪ fire down below, ♫ my lads,
♪so we must do ♫ what we ♪ oughta
♫(Way, hey,♫ hee, ♪ hi, ho!)
♪’Cause the fire ♫ is not half as ♪ hot
♫as the parson’s ♫ little ♪ daughter
♪And there’s ♫ fire down♪ below.
Greensborough Growler @ #53 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 8:04 am
Most people are always disengaged from politics.
‘How much longer are we to be subjected to the fallacious belief that a budget surplus is the best sign of strong economic management?’
Until the Liberal party decides it is no longer in their interests to encourage the perception.
Thank you, BK.
Hacking away in thick smoke here.
#WeatheronBludger.
C@t
I understand what you’re saying, but I think I’d like to see something from Albo about actual proposals for action. I know it’s early, but complicated explanations about coal demand and supply aren’t easily grasped by most people, and I think that was also why Bill’s messages on Adani missed the mark.
IMO, what those figures mean is that there has been a modest lift in house prices, the employment rate steady, share prices are buoyant, and we trade surpluses…
Morrison’s vision for the future is more of the above.
They also mean that the Government emphasizes with the heroic and doughty fight against the fires and provides sufficient moral and physical support for the heroes and the survivors.
Further, the Government listened to the Can the Plan Convoy.
GG
“Morrison’s calm and measured response to the bushfires seems to be resonating positively with the voters.”
Yes, and we calmly breathe in the smoke, containing highly dangerous microfine particles (PM 2.5), because our state and federal Gov’ts fail to warn us about them.
We should all be wearing P2 masks when outside, and using air purifiers inside.
Climate change will hit the poorest hardest because they can’t afford to mitigate.
But
Nothing to see
We should remain calm, and die early.
lizzie, we still have all of summer to go, but, at the moment, people are starting to glaze over and think about Christmas and holidays. Well, maybe not you or I because we care A LOT. But, one thing I have learned is that you have to get your timing right with these things, otherwise you just rub people up the wrong way.
““It’s wrong to not treat people with respect regardless of where they live. And the convoy didn’t treat people with respect.”
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What nonsense. The Stop Adani Convoy went out of it’s way to treat everyone with respect wherever they went.
“Sure you can argue one way or the other, and I respect those who think Adani should go ahead,” [Bob] Brown said. “I ask for respect in the other direction. Some of the headlines in the Murdoch media are simply disgraceful. They’re a disgrace to journalism and they’re a disgrace to the fourth estate’s responsibility for fair and balanced journalism in this biggest debate facing humanity.
“We come in peace, we come abiding by the laws.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/22/bob-brown-accuses-news-corp-of-disgraceful-coverage-of-stop-adani-convoy
Time for a bit of truth about the Stop Adani Convoy, instead of the Murdoch media/Coalition/Labor/CFMEU spin…
The Stop Adani convoy – what really happened in north Queensland
In Mullumbimby, an estimated 5000 people rallied at the Showgrounds. The Northern Rivers is distinguished for citizen activism, notably the coal seam gas showdown in Bentley, near Lismore, that kicked out speculative gas miner Metgasco in 2014.
So while Lismore’s Murdoch-owned newspaper delivered a column from Sky News commentator Paul Murray headed “Say No to Bob Brown’s smug anti-Adani convoy”, the euphoric crowds in Mullum gave him a hero’s welcome.
In Queensland things began to take a darker turn. With the Courier Mail giving voice to pro-mining sentiments uttered by the likes of MPs Hanson, Christensen, and Entsch and so on, a number of specific threats had been made to the Bob Brown Foundation’s Facebook account.
Queensland police were taking them seriously, shadowing it with undercover operatives and a constant uniformed presence.
At Brisbane’s event another 5000 enthusiastic punters gathered in Queen’s Park, before marching to Adani’s headquarters with a heavy police guard. Some entertaining street theatre ensued, bobble-headed Shorten and Morrison mannequins contending for a lump of coal before Shorten was irretrievably snagged on a cartoon fence and a mob of flash dancers emerged to shoo them away.
In a lively speech peppered with some endearingly daggy zingers, Brown called the Courier Mail to account for its inflammatory coverage of the convoy and repudiated its accusation of carbon hypocrisy, observing that the convoy’s emissions would constitute less than three days of those disgorged by the proposed 60-year Carmichael coal mine.
Brown singled out a Courier Mail story quoting a defamatory remark against miners on the Stop Adani Facebook page, made by an individual under a false name. He declared this was not made by a supporter, but rather a detractor seeking to create trouble.
“What [the Courier-Mail] has done today is to use those despicable comments and try to tar everyone else with them. That’s the lowest form of journalism.
“Those comments have no place in civil debate, and they have no place being used to stir up, no doubt, malevolence down the line. And I hold the Murdoch media responsible for that, if it happens.”
As the convoy crew proceeded deeper into Queensland, all anecdotal evidence was that their black and red Stop Adani t-shirts, stickers and flags were eliciting occasional enthusiastic welcomes, but more commonly outright hostility.
Entering the coal belt proper in Rockhampton, I experienced my first personal rebuff, being given the extended middle finger in the f#*% you configuration, by a passing carload of boofy young blokes.
Rockhampton has been a historic bete noire for me – as a young hitchhiker on uni holidays I was screamed at for not having a job – in later years as a travelling musician I met a man who professed to have never heard of the Rolling Stones.
East of Rockhampton, in the coastal village of Emu Park the 600-strong convoy and supporters encountered determined opposition.
A CFMEU-sponsored Start Adani counter-protest began at the entrance to a park where the Bob Brown Foundation had organised a rally and lantern parade.
Police were conspicuous as the 100-odd pro-mining crowd, bearing placards and signage in mockery of the environmentalist’s, worked themselves into a state. Unable to physically attack these maddeningly peaceful hippies, they contented themselves with extended middle fingers and some quite vile epithets, which, considering the number of children and elderly people on both sides, was an effective passion barometer.
Non-violent direct action
The Bob Brown Foundation had been at pains to impress upon convoy participants that they ought not to respond to foul language or aggression. A central tenet of its non-violent direct action principle, that strategy proved highly effective for him in the Franklin, as it did for Gandhi’s, Nelson Mandela’s and a thousand other successful social movements since.
Brown was a calming and quietly encouraging presence throughout the convoy, happily chatting to his constant nimbus of fanboys and fangirls of all ages, at any time of the day or night. His spiels were consistently measured, authoritative and direct. Like all great performers, he left the convoyers feeling special, touched by the invisible current he’s obviously drawing on.
As Indigenous spokesman Adrian Burragubba declared in Clermont, “He must be a great leader, for all you people to follow him out here into the bush.”
When Brown took the stage at Emu Park, he seemed to draw strength from the hecklers infiltrating his crowd.
Cries of “bullshit”, when he cited rising sea levels and temperatures as evidence of manmade global warming, gave him an entree for a succinct scientific analysis. Though the counter-protestors had clearly come looking for trouble, they faded away after his speech, ceding the ground to an all-singing, all chai-drinking lantern parade that ticked all the boxes in the Kumbaya songbook.
Sources later told me that a person in senior management at the mining company involved had informed him that the counter-protestors had been allegedly given an RDO in order to attend – also that they’d been allegedly hosted to a lunch that day by local Liberal MP Michelle Landry. If that was true these were effectively paid protestors, a sobriquet usually bestowed on environmental activists.
That night a musical shindig was held at the local property where the bulk of the protestors were staying, in an assortment of luxury campers, ancient caravans, tents, swags and station wagons. At around 3am a local activist of some renown, who had been with Brown in the Franklin, was seriously assaulted by two unidentified men. Police were not able to lay charges as the assailants were afterwards not to be found.
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…next stop was Mackay, where the opposition began to really heat up. The Foundation had carefully planned a large rally in close cooperation with the police. So had the Start Adani coalition, which again seemed to consist of an alliance between Unions and right wing politicians.
Their rally, at which vocal coal proponent, Nationals MP George Christensen spoke, was timed to finish earlier than the Foundation’s, so that afterwards their highly vocal crowd could surround the convoy and subject it to a barrage of abuse and invective.
As if in response to Christensen’s invective, the lowering clouds responded with a Biblical downfall during the Foundation’s proceedings, while a chorus of catcalls and abuse continued throughout.
I recorded the following observations from a large gentleman with a sign reading “For the Future of our Region, Go Galilee Basin”, who had interposed himself in front of the podium where Bob Brown addressed the crowd.
Preferring to remain anonymous, he assured me that the Foundation was enormously wealthy and influential, part of a dangerous left wing philosophy that is; “happening all around, socialism attacking all societies of a Western denomination.
“There’s lots of vested interest in it, so therefore they’re only looking at certain statistics, certain relevant data, and excluding other information, to the point of them making the situation look that bad.”
“It’s actually a climate change cult and you all are thinking that what you know is the greatest and the best and because you’re the holiest and the know alls and everyone else is out of touch. Of course we’re the filth, we have to be changed and washed to be reborn. It’s the way the cult works.
“Have you spoken to (former James Cook university academic and climate change sceptic) Peter Ridd about it? There’s a couple of fellas around who say that they don’t believe it. It’s incorrect information.”
The gentleman contended that increased carbon emissions have no effect on global warming.
“Of course not, it’s naturally occurring. The plants need it, the trees need it. if you want to do something go and plant trees, go and recycle your rubbish, that’s more a worthwhile project.”
He denied the evidence I cited, that coal production is in decline.
“Year upon year the tonnages are going up for export and here we are, gonna throw all that away, expecting baristas, taxi drivers and hairdressers to prop up the economy?
“You believe that in Melbourne I know, but it doesn’t work. The fact of the matter is the royalties the Queensland government are giving out on coal are phenomenal, yet they won’t push it. That’s hypocrisy and bullshit. What sort of philosophy is stopping them from doing it? Who’s been driving it, what’s been driving it? I’m very suspicious of it. We’ve had climate change for a million years.”
The “drug dealers defence”
After his public address in the driving rain, Bob Brown countered aggressive questioning from the ABC and commercial news reporters.
“You heard me say we should have should have a just transition,” he said.
“That means not opening Adani, it means transiting across to renewable energy, because a very big part of the resources sector, much bigger than coal in terms of employment is the Great Barrier Reef, perhaps the largest living entity on the planet. I’ve had business people saying ‘we support you, because we want to keep our jobs, we want to keep our businesses and we want to keep the lifestyle, which is so based on a Great Barrier Reef’. There are good alternatives to coal. Thermal coal can be replaced but there is no alternative to the Great Barrier Reef.”
An ABC journalist insisted that Australia would be losing a valuable export market in coal. Having previously called this the “drug dealers defence”, Brown replied;
“Why should we have Venezuela, or Malaysia or Vietnam, or India dictating policy here in Australia? We’re mature enough and we’ve got the good alternatives enough to say, not least from the god given sun, to produce renewable power to make sure our kids are safe into the future.”
Heavy rainfall and police dampening the aggressive behaviour in the streets, the convoy made a meticulously planned departure for the mining town of Clermont, 160km from the proposed mine site.
Pre-arranged affinity groups travelled closely together, as we had been warned by police to expect potential trouble and some service stations and shops, particularly in Clermont to refuse service to those suspected of being anti-Adani. Local police had been pulling over vehicles bearing Foundation signage and closely interrogating drivers and passengers, threatening intensive searches for suspected blockading equipment.
Things kept getting uglier
As the convoy arrived in Clermont it was met with a sustained and belligerent reception by a few hundred locals, who had been fired up that morning by addresses from Clive Palmer, Pauline Hanson and Coalition MP Matt Canavan.
Convoy cars were obstructed, struck with fists and stones, the occupants subjected to vigorous and nasty abuse, terrifying several children. One 11 year old remarked to her mother that bullying at school would seem like nothing after that experience.
Bookings were cancelled at a local restaurant after direct threats were made to the proprietor. A local publican had been interviewed in the Mackay newspaper, boasting that he would deny service to any protestors. A large threatening sign on the balcony made his intentions clear as to what would become of anyone foolish enough to test him.
As a result Bob Brown did not take up the accommodation reserved for him in town and instead camped with the rest of the convoy at the Clermont show ground, which was heavily guarded by police.
The Wangan and Jagalingou people had emphasised that the event they were hosting there was not a Stop Adani camp, but rather a Karmoo Dreaming, or water festival. It was intended as an opportunity for southerners to experience their culture and learn about the challenges they’d faced since colonialism. They also stressed they did not wish to allow pro-Adani supporters into their festival – a decision supported by the police.
At the front gate of the Showground next morning, I saw first hand the determination of the Clermont locals to disrupt these proceedings. Several men in Start Adani t-shirts were denied entry. One man in a Stop Adani t-shirt made a lacklustre attempt to bluff his way through, before his belligerence and refusal to pay the $15 entry fee betrayed him.
The persistence of these attempts obliged the police to begin turning all locals away and preventing their signage being put up outside the entrance.
But they were not finished yet. In the mid afternoon, during singer Neil Murray’s performance a man on horseback came galloping at reckless speed from the showground’s front gate, where he had already, it transpired, nearly run down a volunteer, clouting him over the head as he passed.
Whooping and hollering, the rider came dangerously close to festival goers before goading the horse through a gate into the oval, where around 200 people were seated and small children were running around.
His escapade finished with horse and rider colliding into a gate, behind which a woman who may or may not have been attempting to close it, depending on whom you spoke to, was badly injured. An ambulance took her to Mackay Hospital for an MRI. She was later released.
The rider was charged with a list of offences. He was certainly supported by a group of locals I saw near his horse float by the showgrounds. There were some telling comments on the ABC Brisbane Facebook page’s story, including; “… the Stockman and his Stock Horse are HEROES” and; “Dumbarse leftards meddling where they have no idea – who cares!”
The Bob Brown Foundation Convoy is now wending its way southwards, to a dramatic culmination in Canberra on 5 May, with singer Paul Kelly, writer Richard Flanagan and actor Jack Thompson scheduled to speak alongside Brown.
https://www.thefifthestate.com.au/articles/the-stop-adani-convoy-what-really-happened-in-north-queensland/
Maude,
Maybe voters have become inured to the fire porn meme of the MSM and the hysterical over reactions of social media gloom and doomers.
C@t
I’d forgotten Christmas and the holiday season, when everyone supposedly tunes out! Unfortunately the weather just keeps on weathering. Poor NSW. They’re not getting much comfort from Gladys and Scomo.
Bellwether @ #49 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 7:42 am
Want to know an interesting statistic? 17 of the top 24 Evangelical electorates in Australia are in Queensland. It was no spur of the moment decision by Scott Morrison to have a photo of him praying at his Evo church displayed prominently in all the media the Sunday before the election.
John Lennon killed 39 years today.
This is how it was broken to the US people.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1203700728717619200
lizzie, I do think the message about the utter uselessness of Scott’s ‘thoughts and prayers’ and tea and sympathy, is cutting through though. It’s a slow burn, so to speak, that has results eventually.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/a-sydney-circled-by-fire-could-never-have-hosted-the-olympics-20191208-p53hva.html
The results from the latest ANU studies, show a sharp contrast in levels of support for both the Coalition and the Greens among the different age brackets. For 18-34’s only 27.0% voted for the Coalition, while 26% voted for the Greens. Also, only 7.8% of 35-54’s and 3.1% of the over 55’s voted for the Greens as well. Those results truly blew me out of the water.
Firefox
Unsurprising, some Laborites decry 24/7 about media bias against Labor but do not accept the same might apply to the Greens.
These same Laborites have no compunction linking to any Murdoch rag or the “SmearStrain”, as they describe it, if it contains anti-Greens material but howl at the moon if a Greens does same linking, though rarely, to anti-duopoly / anti-Labor material.
These same Laborites gleefully cite these same sources as if the material contains the ‘truth’ about the Greens but whine incessantly these same sources misrepresent Labor.
It’s a funny world.
‘“Leaders have always played a major role in shaping voters’ choices and the 2019 election was no exception,” said Sarah Cameron from the University of Sydney, one of the lead authors of the Australian Election Study.
“Bill Shorten’s historically low popularity undoubtedly disadvantaged Labor.”’
Be interesting to see who succeeds Corbyn. Could be instructive for Labor following 2022 after Albo steps down.
Clare O’Neill is my pick.
Rudd also wore his Christianity proudly and also had photos published of him outside his church.
Is it “cutting through” with the voters who really matter?
One of the groups Labor is pivoting strongly to is people of faith who no doubt pray. Consequently, they would see Morrison reflecting themselves in this regard.
RE Miners..workers are regularly thrown on the scrap heap…the thousands in the car industry were probably the last big group, and they won’t be the last. The response depends on your political power and influence.
Labor-Greens wars on PB in 30 seconds.
https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1203729478129725441
If your job involves destroying the planet, then you shouldn’t have that job. That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t have a job at all, just not one that damages the environment unnecessarily. Giving false hope to workers in dying industries is just going to make their inevitable transitions to other jobs harder down the line. If workers in the coal industry really care about the future of their families then they will start looking for new jobs right now. The Greens – the party who fights hardest for people doing it tough – will be there to support them 100% as they transition. We don’t let people fall through the cracks. They may not like us but we will be the ones fighting for their rights, even if they don’t know it. We’re the ones fighting to provide a clean, safe and secure future for their children.
I vaguely remember Richie Benaud announcing John Lennon’s death during a cricket match in Perth
This one I presume
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8531/scorecard/65304/india-vs-new-zealand-5th-match-benson-&-hedges-world-series-cup-1980-81
Mine site had multiple safety complaints and wall collapses months before worker was killed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-09/bootu-creek-mine-craig-butler-death-investigation-nt-worksafe/11759964
“Unsurprising, some Laborites decry 24/7 about media bias against Labor but do not accept the same might apply to the Greens.”
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Absolutely. The coverage of the Stop Adani Convoy by The Courier Mail in particular was atrocious. You’d think that Labor would recognize this, since The CM is no great friend of Labor’s either, but it seems Labor would rather side with Murdoch in order to keep their masters as the CFMEU happy.
frednk @ #27 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 6:42 am
Not according to the experts. But what would they know, right?
Tristo @ #72 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 8:46 am
I think it is 23% for LNP and 28% for Greens Tristo, across the 18-34 cohort, in panel top right p18
I thought the apparent demographic profile of PB seemed to match pretty well with those results, given the relative abundance of various LNP talking points raised against Greens around here.
Hardly surprising that the young are concerned about the world in which they are to survive whilst many of their parents and grandparents apparently could care that much. How many of the latter are going to be around to see how it all pans out?
[My idea was that this was 30 years off. Instead, Sydney is now experiencing air pollution that would have disposed of Sydney’s Olympic bid.]
The ’94 fires were 100 days after the “the winner is..” announcement.
That tour by India was the first cricket series I can remember. I was starting school that year from memory.
Confessions @ #77 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 8:55 am
Designed for total protection from “Bull” of any kind.😇
Moranbah heavy airborne dust levels prompt calls for better testing
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-09/moranbah-dust-level-coal-mining-air-quality-concerns/11773522
I reckon it’s also because they’re all compromised in some way.
kayjay:
These days you need full body armour.
I thought the apparent demographic profile of PB seemed to match pretty well with those results, given the relative abundance of various LNP talking points raised against Greens around here.
Said blithely and without blush as if The Greens should be without criticism, using the carefully-cultivated framing by The Greens that, if you criticise them, you are using ‘Liberal talking points’. 🙄
The Pollyanna PM, has a nice ring to it. 🙂
p.18 of AES
Generational divide
There were major differences between younger and older voters in the issues they considered important in the election. Part of the difference can be explained by economic issues, with younger voters being particularly concerned about property prices, and this was highlighted by Labor’s policies on franking
credits and negative gearing. Another explanation is the greater concern of younger voters for environmental issues. Half of 18 to 24 year old voters surveyed identified an environmental issue as their top issue in the election. By contrast, older voters considered management of the economy to be the most
important issue.
Figure 4.4 shows voting patterns across different age groups in
the 2019 election. The Liberal Party attracts its greatest support from older voters. More than half of those aged over 65 cast their first preference vote for the Liberal party. This group is also the least likely to vote for either Labor (29%) or the Greens (2%). The reverse is seen in the youngest group of voters. Those under 25 were most likely to vote Labor (44%), followed by the Greens
(37%) and the Liberal party (15%).
Were these differences across age-groups greater in 2019 than in previous elections? Long term voting patterns for younger voters (aged 18 to 34) and older voters (aged 55 and over), respectively, are presented Figures 4.5 and 4.6. These results do suggest a growing generational divide. Over the past two elections those under 35 have become much less likely to vote for the Liberal Party, and much more likely to vote for the Greens. The 2019 election exhibited the lowest Liberal party vote on record for this age group (at 23%), and the highest on record for the Greens (28%). The Labor vote within this age group has gradually declined over the past few decades, alongside the rise in the Greens vote.
While young voters are moving further to the left, older voters are moving to the right. Among those 55 and over, 18% more voted Liberal than Labor in the 2019 election, which is the greatest Liberal lead among this age group since the AES began in 1987. Overall the evidence from the Australian Election Study
is consistent with a growing generational divide in the voting behavior of younger and older Australians.
Well Firefox,
You really put Peg to shame with that post.
New mouse please!
People who think Pollbuldger is representative of Australian voters obviously don’t spend much time away from Pollbludger!
lizzie @ #61 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 8:22 am
They’re not just complicated. They’re just plain wrong. I think most people can see that, except for those blinded by ideology and greed.
If Labor continues on its pro-coal trajectory it will lose a whole new cohort of young voters to the Greens, a cohort who will likely remain rusted on for subsequent elections.
Said blithely and without blush as if Labor should be without criticism, using the carefully-cultivated framing by Labor that, if you criticise them, you are supporting the Liberals.
Exactly, Mr Gittins:
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/please-no-more-pollyanna-impressions-in-the-budget-update-20191208-p53hx0.html
Torchbearer @ #76 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 8:52 am
And by how much money is at stake. And guess which is the largest industry in Australia? **
** In financial terms, not in terms of manpower employed.