Call of the board: regional Victoria

Part four in the region-by-region review of the results in each seat at the May federal election.

This site’s slow-moving Call of the Board series, which takes a closer look at the results for every seat at the May 18 election, now makes it to regional Victoria. This area once enjoyed its fair share of marginal seats (see Ballarat, Bendigo and Monash/McMillan below), but now has only Corangamite to offer in the way of reliable election night seats-to-watch. Nonetheless, there were a few interesting things going on in the results for those who cared to look. (And while you’re here, note also the post on Brexit developments immediately below this one).

Ballarat (Labor 11.0%; 3.6% swing to Labor): Labor has been strengthening in this once highly marginal seat since Catherine King gained it at the 2001 election, at which it was the only seat in the country to shift from Coalition to Labor (with some help from the retirement of Michael Ronaldson, later a Senator). The only serious speed bump in that time was a 6.8% swing to the Liberals in 2013, reducing her margin to 4.9%, which she has now almost made good with successive swings of 2.4% and 3.6%. The Liberal primary vote on this occasion was down 4.0% despite the absence of the Nationals, who polled 4.2% in 2016, although they did face new competition on the right from the United Australia Party, which polled 4.6%.

Bendigo (Labor 9.0%; 5.2% swing to Labor): Victoria’s other regional city seat has followed a similar pattern to Ballarat over time: won by Labor from the Liberals in 1998, retained only narrowly in 2004 and 2013, and now looking secure again after successive swings of 2.5% and 5.2% in 2016 and 2019. The current member, Lisa Chesters, has now almost made up the 8.2% swing she suffered when she came to the seat on Steve Gibbons’ retirement in 2013. The Liberal primary vote was down 6.1% amid an overload of competition on the right, with One Nation, Conservative National and Rise Up Australia all in the field alongside the ubiquitous United Australia Party.

Casey (Liberal 4.6%; 0.1% swing to Liberal): Located on Melbourne’s eastern outskirts and held for the Liberals by the Speaker, Tony Smith, Casey was one of many Victorian seats that looked promising for Labor after the state election, but singularly failed to deliver on the day. Smith actually picked up a very slightly swing on two-party preferred, and none of the primary vote swings were particularly significant. Labor tended to do better in the more urbanised western end of the electorate, particularly in those parts of it newly added from La Trobe in the redistribution.

Corangamite (LABOR NOTIONAL GAIN 1.1%; 1.0% swing to Labor): Corangamite was designated as a notional Labor seat by the barest possible margin, so whoever received the swing was almost certain to win the seat. That proved to be Labor’s Libby Coker, just, in a result perfectly in line with the state average. Defeated Liberal member Sarah Henderson picked up a few swings in the booths newly added to the electorate on the Bellarine Peninsula, but the Great Ocean Road swung to Labor, reflecting its affluent and educated sea-changer demographic. The Greens were down 3.0% on the primary vote, as voters situated in the state’s south-west failed to warm to a candidate called Simon Northeast.

Corio (Labor 10.3%; 2.1% swing to Labor): Labor’s Richard Marles picked up 4.2% on the primary vote and 2.1% on two-party preferred, the former assisted by a small field of four candidates. The Liberals picked up some swings in Geelong’s down-market north, but the city centre and its surrounds went solidly to Labor.

Flinders (Liberal 5.6%; 1.4% swing to Labor): One of many disappointments for Labor was their failure to seriously threaten Greg Hunt in an area that had swung forcefully their way at the state election. Hunt was also little troubled by Julia Banks, who managed 13.8% of the primary vote, well behind Labor on 24.7%. Banks’s presence cut into the vote share for Liberal, Labor and the Greens – Hunt was down 3.8% to 46.7%, and needed preferences to win the seat for the first time since he came to it in 2001.

Gippsland (Nationals 16.7%; 1.5% swing to Labor): For reasons not immediately apparent, Labor was up 3.0% on the primary vote and cut slightly into what remains a secure margin for Nationals member Darren Chester.

Indi (Independent 1.4% versus Liberal; 4.1% swing to Liberal): As a number of highly trumpeted independents failed to live up to the hype elsewhere, Helen Haines performed a remarkable feat in retaining the independent mantle of Cathy McGowan. Haines’ primary vote of 32.4% was only slightly short of McGowan’s 34.8% on her re-election in 2016, although the Liberals put up a stronger show after gouging half of the Nationals vote. An interesting feature of the result was the 7.7% swing to the Liberals on two-party-preferred versus Labor, suggesting Haines’ preferences favoured the Liberals more strongly than did McGowan’s.

La Trobe (Liberal 4.5%; 1.3% swing to Liberal): A swing to the Liberals in Melbourne marginals was not a feature of too many pre-election predictions, but such was the outcome in La Trobe. Both major parties were up slightly on the primary vote amid a smaller field of candidates than 2016.

Mallee (Nationals 16.2%; 3.6% swing to Labor): Vacated with the demise of Andrew Broad’s two-term career, this was retained by the Nationals against a challenge from the Liberals, as it was in 2013 when Broad succeeded John Forrest. Liberal candidate Serge Petrovich actually fell out of the preference candidate before Labor, despite outpolling them 18.8% to 15.7% on the primary vote, and his preferences duly delivered a large winning margin to Nationals candidate Anne Webster. Webster would likely have won the seat even if Petrovich had survived to the final count, given her 27.9% to 18.8% advantage on the primary vote.

McEwen (Labor 5.0%; 1.0% swing to Liberal): Despite being an area of dynamic growth, particularly around Mernda and Doreen at Melbourne’s northern edge, McEwen turned in a largely static result on this occasion. This was in contrast to its form at the five elections from 2004 to 2016, when two-party swings ranged from 4.1% to 9.0%. Both major parties were down slightly on the primary vote as One Nation took to the field, scoring 5.9%, and Labor member Rob Mitchell’s two-party margin was slightly clipped after a blowout win in 2016.

Monash (Liberal 7.4%; 0.2% swing to Labor): The solid margin built up by Russell Broadbent since 2004 in the seat formerly known as McMillan was little disturbed, although the 7.6% recorded by One Nation took a 3.6% bite out of his primary vote. A noteworthy feature of the result was a heavy swing to the Liberals in the Latrobe Valley towns of Moe and Newborough, a pattern reflected in coal and electricity producing areas across the country.

Nicholls (Nationals 20.0%; 2.5% swing to Labor): After a three-cornered contest in 2016, in which Damian Drum gained the seat for the Nationals on the retirement of Liberal member Sharman Stone, the Liberals vacated the field in Nicholls (formerly Murray), and Drum retained the seat with a majority of the primary vote. One Nation polled 11.3%, easily the best result of the five seats they contested in Victoria.

Wannon (Liberal 10.4%; 1.2% swing to Liberal): Liberal member Dan Tehan picked up slight favourable swings on both the primary and two-party vote. Former Triple J presenter Alex Dyson polled 10.4% as an independent.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Bill Palmers opinion :

    Turns out Donald Trump’s latest Iran debacle may be even more of a disaster than we thought

    Earlier this afternoon, Palmer Report sounded the alarm when Donald Trump made a point of announcing that the United States had nothing to do with an apparent accident at a missile launch site in Iran. Given Trump’s dishonest and projectionist nature, he seemed to be giving away that he did – directly or indirectly – have something to do with it. Now things may be worse than they initially appeared.

    It turns out the image Donald Trump tweeted of the Iranian accident gives something away about United States intel capabilities. NPR has sussed out that the image, if taken by a U.S. drone, was either secretly in Iranian airspace, or has technological capabilities that the public doesn’t know about. Further, experts think the image is likely classified.

    In other words, that’s right, it looks like Trump just blurted out classified information yet again. He’s done this enough times that we’ve lost track of the precise count. Of course this leads to a disturbing question about why he keeps doing this.

    Does Donald Trump keep doing this because he’s too stupid, reckless, and clueless to realize he’s putting the United States in danger by randomly revealing classified information? Or does Trump keep doing this on purpose, because someone like Vladimir Putin has instructed him to put it out there?

    https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/iran-debacle-disaster-trump-donald/20479/

  2. On #ABCNews
    @ZedSeselja is using Spud’s argument that #hometobilo family are not ‘owed’ protection bcuz they have been found to not be genuine refugees.

    So, 95% of ppl on Manus/Nauru HAVE been assessed as genuine refugees so why aren’t they ‘owed’ protection Zed?

  3. lizzie says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 9:08 am

    zoomster

    nath just carps at Labor from the sidelines. He no longer gets much response to his bitchy attacks on Shorten, so he’s started on you.
    ________________________
    The fact that no one defends Shorten anymore on here is a sign on my complete and utter victory. Just a few months ago a baying pack would form at any criticism of the man. He is now abandoned by almost all of his supporters on here. It is a a sign of my triumph and the complete surrender of the cabal.

  4. A late good morning all and thanks to BK.

    I wanted to raise a point some academic friends have related to me this week. This week saw the latest round of NHMRC funding grants for health research released. Only 9% of applications got funded, with the lion’s share going to Monash, Melbourne and UNSW. For women applicants the success rate was barely 7%,even though a high proportion of medical researchers are female. So much for the meritocracy. For example see:
    https://www.monash.edu/medicine/news/latest/2019-articles/congratulations-to-our-august-nhmrc-grant-recipients

    Adelaide did poorly, with even the Uni’s top ranked researcher in one field missing out entirely. This is a severe financial blow, since Commonwealth faculty grants have declined to the point where people lose jobs unless they can win some research funding.

    I would argue the system is heavily slanted towards a small number of institutions in Melbourne and Sydney. The same old men keep getting the same old grants to keep studying the same old topics. Considering that most researchers do their best work in the first half of their careers, and the only medicine nobel prizes won in recent decades in Australia have come out of Brisbane and Perth, that is hard to justify on evidence of success.

    It is not entirely accidental. Monash and Melbourne both reportedly use professional lobbyists to lobby for funding, which illustrates how susceptible to influence the system is. They would not do so unless they found it cost effective.

    Our university system is slowly dying in terms of quality and equity. The Liberals have done nothing effective to fix it, with their changes making it worse. The only value they see in it is generating foreign fee income and driving up the value of visas. Labor’s shadow minister has said nothing about this topic this week, nor has the NTEU. Both are ineffectual.

  5. Socrates, if you haven’t already heard this…ABC RN Blueprint for Living program…related issue….very interesting

    Invisible women: the dangers of being female in a world designed for men

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/blueprintforliving/invisible-women:-the-dangers-of-being-female-in-a-world-designe/11459874

    70 years ago, Simone de Beauvoir wrote, “representation of the world, like the world itself, is the work of men; they describe it from their own point of view, which they confuse with the absolute truth.”

    It’s an enduring fact of a patriarchal world that universal truth tends to only hold true for half of us and, according to Caroline Criado-Perez, the implications can be deadly.

    From smart phones that are too big for the average female hand, to crash test dummies based on an average male body, she explains how the built world is a dangerous place for women to live.

    Guest: Caroline Criado-Perez, author of Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men

  6. lizzie says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 9:54 am

    On #ABCNews
    @ZedSeselja is using Spud’s argument that #hometobilo family are not ‘owed’ protection bcuz they have been found to not be genuine refugees.

    So, 95% of ppl on Manus/Nauru HAVE been assessed as genuine refugees so why aren’t they ‘owed’ protection Zed?

    So, Zed.
    There’s no need for the Minister to have special discretionary powers then?

    The Potato needs to say why he is not willing to intervene in this case. At the moment all he’s said is that they don’t meet our determination of what a refugee is.

    The Courts have backed that assessment by rejecting their appeals.

    The Minister’s special powers exist because it has always been recognised that cases are not always as black and white as the legislation would make it seem.

    So, he needs to explain why using those powers in this case is not appropriate.

    To maintain his current position is to say that his discretionary powers are unnecessary.

  7. WTF this has to be satire, right?

    Breaking911@Breaking911
    Aug 29
    PSA: Florida Residents Reminded Not To Open Fire on #HurricaneDorian

    :large

  8. Mavis Davis says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:15 am

    nath:

    [‘It is a sign of my triumph and the complete surrender of the cabal.’]

    Please stop having delusions of grandeur.

    Grandeur is unnecessary, nath is simply deluded.

  9. Socrates, the tertiary education sector is looked upon as a quasi-state operated unit in the export economy. It’s not valued for the knowledge vested in it or which it creates, for the role it has in human capital formation, its cultural/creative value or in generating investment and income in the domestic and/or social sectors. Like the rest of the social endowment, these things are only useful to the Lib-Libs if they can be monetised and privatised.

  10. WA Labor, power plays and factions in the aftermath of its state conference

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/mark-mcgowan-emerges-from-labor-party-chaos-stronger-than-ever/11464948

    Last weekend’s Labor state conference was one of the ugliest public displays of infighting within the WA party in recent memory.

    It was the most blatant show of internal divisions within the ALP since an attempted coup against leader Mark McGowan by members of his own frontbench to replace him with someone not even in State Parliament — former federal minister Stephen Smith.

    With tears, booing, heckling, abuse and walkouts — all before the TV cameras and in full view of federal Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese — it was a scene that had the WA Premier fuming and was condemned by senior party figures as everything from “embarrassing” to “disgraceful”.
    :::
    In fact, the Premier may have come out of the whole saga stronger, with his grip on the party looking tighter after internal rivals were left severely wounded.
    :::
    His critics and rivals have been bruised, while his allies in the left faction are back in a position of overwhelming dominance.

    “The left is in a better position than it has been in for years,” one Labor operative said.

    And that could have massive consequences when it comes to matters such as preselecting candidates for the 2021 state election, a process due to start within months.
    :::
    The saga will make it harder for Mr McGowan to convince voters he leads a united team, in the face of footage of several Labor MPs boycotting their Premier’s speech.

    Ugly scenes of Indigenous leaders left confused and hurt as Labor members walked out during the Welcome to Country may well stick in the minds of voters.

  11. @astir0412
    ·
    15h
    I just heard Patricia Kervalis on RN drive say Australians voted against Labors climate change targets last election
    I think this was blatant lying

  12. I read on Twitter that Coleman would like to give permission for the Biloela family to stay, but that he is ‘afraid of’ (subservient to?) Dutton. Because Twitter refreshes so quickly I can’t find the reference.

  13. nath says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:07 am
    lizzie says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 9:08 am

    zoomster

    nath just carps at Labor from the sidelines. He no longer gets much response to his bitchy attacks on Shorten, so he’s started on you.
    ________________________
    The fact that no one defends Shorten anymore on here is a sign on my complete and utter victory. Just a few months ago a baying pack would form at any criticism of the man. He is now abandoned by almost all of his supporters on here. It is a a sign of my triumph and the complete surrender of the cabal.
    _________________________
    As an independent observer I would have to say I concur with this analysis re Littlefinger.

  14. Good Morning

    I see from the Qld thread that backing Adani has the LNP in front.
    No lesson learnt fron Labor at both Federal and State elections. When Labor moved to stop Adani they were able to win the state election

  15. Barney in Makassar says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:26 am
    Peg,

    Sounds like open democracy in a political Party.

    Maybe other Parties might try it?

    The discouraging thing about these events was they were not contests about policy. They are the result of jealousies and lost face. They result from the weakness of the leadership of the Right and their lack of support in the rank-and-file branches of the party, where the Left is well-organised. The Right humiliated themselves. Very unwise.

  16. LVT and nath

    What a load of bull. I will always respect Shorten for his intelligence and the effort he put into creating a new policy framework.

  17. Pegasus, Briefly

    Thanks and agreed. Even from a narrowly economic view point it is hard to understand why you would stuff around with funding medical research. But they still do. I have to say I am disappointed Labor has said nothing about this. it has been going on for a while. The under=funding of female academics is directly attacking some core past Labor social and education policy achievements. It is time they were defended. Though this problem isn’t only a battle of the sexes. It is about entrenched privileges. Nobody in Adelaide academia can afford ivory towers.

  18. Lizzie

    Well said. Where Shorten failed was with the messaging failing to reach voters.

    I still think if Labor had argued for a tax increase above a certain dollar value that would have produced an entirely different result. Senator Elisabeth Warren has shown how you do this with her Wealth Tax campaign

  19. Part one: Inside the Adani blockade:

    Far from killing off the anti-Adani movement, final approvals for the Carmichael mine have catalysed protesters, who say the fight is far from over.

    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/environment/2019/08/31/part-one-inside-the-adani-blockade/15671736008677

    Dubbed Australia’s “biggest carbon bomb”, the west Queensland seam is one of the largest coal reserves in the world, and it alone, if burned, could shift the earth’s climate a third of the way to 2 degrees of warming.

    In the mining industry, Adani’s mine is often referred to as the “icebreaker”. In June, Ian Macfarlane, the chief executive of Queensland Resources Council and a former Liberal minister, told ABC News the other proposed projects in the Galilee Basin will have a “much easier run” once the Indian mining giant lays down the infrastructure and locks in a baseline for environmental conditions.

    This is why both sides are so focused on the Carmichael mine. And it is for this reason that Camp Binbee is four hours’ drive from Adani’s mine site. The blockade is strategically placed so actions can be directed all along the pipeline – from port, to rail, to mine.
    :::
    As for Palaszczuk’s allegation that protesters were using “sinister tactics”, such as rigging lock-on devices with butane canisters? He scoffs. “You think we wouldn’t already be up on charges if we booby trapped our lock-ons?”

    It’s a valid point. A more likely reality for proposing the heightened police powers is that the premier can see what is coming down the line.

    Queensland has become a flashpoint in the climate struggle.

    Since April this year, the Coalition and Queensland Labor have steadily cleared the decks for Adani.
    :::
    The couple, who are a part of Grey Power – think placards that read, “Stop Upsetting David Attenborough! He’s Too Old for This Shit!” – grin at the memory. “We’ve been arrested four more times since then,” says John. “We’re an underutilised resource, us oldies.”

    So far, the couple has been fined for each arrest. “We usually apologise to the magistrate for wasting the court’s time,” says John, “but we will explain our position and why we think it is important.”

    “We have three children, five grandchildren,” adds Rae, her tone more serious now. “We don’t see it as an option to not be involved.”

  20. lizzie
    says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:37 am
    LVT and nath
    What a load of bull. I will always respect Shorten for his intelligence and the effort he put into creating a new policy framework.
    _________________________________
    You have abandoned him Lizzie. Where are the scathing insults against his detractors? The passionate frothing of the mouths. The unhinged wail of the C@t and the spitting rage of her pack?

    They have dissipated. And now Shorten is bereft of his online support group.

  21. Lars Von Trier @ #468 Saturday, August 31st, 2019 – 10:33 am

    nath says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:07 am
    lizzie says:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 9:08 am

    zoomster

    nath just carps at Labor from the sidelines. He no longer gets much response to his bitchy attacks on Shorten, so he’s started on you.
    ________________________
    The fact that no one defends Shorten anymore on here is a sign on my complete and utter victory. Just a few months ago a baying pack would form at any criticism of the man. He is now abandoned by almost all of his supporters on here. It is a a sign of my triumph and the complete surrender of the cabal.
    _________________________
    As an independent observer I would have to say I concur with this analysis re Littlefinger.

    Sorry, but you two just aren’t worth the effort. Ever thought that that may be the reason no one bothers to respond to you?

  22. C@t, has your branch discussed moving on from the burner leader yet?

    C@tmomma
    says:
    Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 8:27 am
    Yes, Anthony Albanese is not the messiah for Labor. He will never be Prime Minister. Maybe use him as a burner leader. That’s all I’d ever consider.

  23. An interesting point. 🙂

    @JTHewz
    · 18m
    You cannot get to Christmas Island without leaving Australian Territory. The injunction was breached. #hometobilo

  24. Don’t bother Doyley.

    Whatever you say you’ll be accused of siding with The Devil.

    I get the same shit about Pell. They can’t see that supporting the right of access to the legal system by Pell is NOT the same thing as supporting Pell the man.

    They also can’t see the the irony of them barracking for the Sri Lankans to have more appeals and more access to the legal system, fully paid for by others, yet condemning Pell for seeking to do the same thing.

    Ultimately it boils down to liking the Sri Lankans as “powerless refugees” (presumably because Dutton is against them), and disliking Pell (for his connections and involvements with the Catholic Church, Right wing political issues, and pedophilia).

    BOTH, good or bad, have the right to access the legal system to its fullest extent. BOTH have done so to more than usual measure. BOTH have accessed it entirely (it seems) with money or time donated by supporters. BOTH have extensive support in the community (but by no means universal support).

    But only ONE is labelled as an overly privileged miscreant gaming the system. It boils down to who you like.

    It doesn’t matter how many times you point out the inconsistency the mob exhibits in supporting one’s right to achieve a legal win by virtually any means, yet condemning the other’s right to do the same thing.

    They’ll bring up Milat as an example (he had a right to access the legal system too, something I would have thought was uncontroversial). They’ll bring up every petty crim who couldn’t afford to go to the High Court as examples of Pell’s extraordinary privilege (while ignoring the Sri Lankan’s doing the same thing, in the same way, for the same reason: they believe they have been unjustly treated).

    You can tell them until you’re blue in the face that you don’t approve of Setka as a person, but wish to see proper process followed in dealing with him. I tried this with Pell too, but it doesn’t do any good.

    Setka’s, the Sri Lankans’ and Pell’s are simultaneously notorious and important cases, and could all profit by being fully adjudicated, but only one gets the PB Seal Of Approval for extended litigation. The rest, and anyone who advocates for the rights of the “defendants” to have their options full explored, are condemned out of hand by the howling mob.

    We got away from howing mobs in our legal system, as our civilization progressed over the centuries. We ceased permitting victims of crime to decide punishment because we had to set universal standards. This could never be done when the punishment was polluted by revenge and hatred. That’s why we have a proper legal system, available to all. Sure, it’s expensive, but will it usually find pro bono activists to make sure the really important cases, where justice needs to be seen to be done, is actually done.

    None of this matters to the mob. They know who’s guilty and who’s not, who deserves the full processes of the law, and who’s just making mischief.

    And if you disagree with them they’ll howl you down, accuse you of anything to shut you up, make shit up, and then (irony of ironies) whinge that it was actually you who bullied them.

    No wonder their world and their support is dwindling. Jumping on everything and anyone who disturbs their zeitgeist or their precious Codes Of Conduct loses allies hand-over-fist. You get tired of defending yourself against political correctness. So you drift towards something less difficult to support, something that doesn’t involve the take-no-prisoners harassment and stitch-ups of the Moral Police.

    Millions of Australians have already done this, as will millions more if the tribal bigots of the Left don’t wake up and realise they’re overselling their product and pissing off the customers.

    The World is moving rightwards, sadly, not because that’s the decent thing to do, but simply because it’s less noisy there. Away from the clamorous Left, forever auditing your thoughts and behaviour, you can form your own conclusions (as well as admit your own mistakes) without constant instruction and correction on how to do so from political zealots who are never happier than when they are judging others. Happier mainly because it makes them feel better about themselves and their bleak, shrinking world.

    And now I’m off to paint a room. There’s a guy on Youtube who can do it in under 9 minutes. Not me, unfortunately.

  25. nath and LVT

    Not posting about a former leader does not diminish the respect one has.

    I can’t see you 2 gushingly lauding your former leaders Turnbull and Abbott, can I? It’s like the line up on the podium at Red Square – we can see Morrison strutting, legs akimbo – but absent ones are airbrushed out.

  26. When you’re in an Australian aircraft you’re still on Australian territory aren’t you?

    So, if you land on Australian territory have you legally left Australia?

  27. Nobody here is questioning George Pell’s rights under the legal system. People have pointed out that his rights have been much better protected than those of the typical defendant who cannot raise millions of dollars from well-wishers. The fact that he is still a convicted sex offender even after the benefit of a very highly paid and robust defence tends to strengthen the credibility of the conviction. Yet his supporters claim that he has been treated unfairly and the verdict is unsafe.

  28. BB

    Just because a few people sometimes argue in one direction doesn’t mean they all think the same. I really object to insults such as “the mob”, ” the cabal” and “the cult”.

    Frankly, I couldn’t give a stuff about what happens to Pell, I’m neutral on “the Setka question”, and I object strongly to the sheer inhumanity of most of the Morrison government’s policy decisions.

  29. I’d like to see the cost/benefit analysis of flying this Tamil family on private charter around Australia, whilst lining the pockets of lawyers to fight the injunctions.

  30. Another 500 odd words by Bushfire Bill trying to find a way to exculpate himself from some pretty reprehensible justifications for supporting the man, George Pell, not simply the process.

    Playing the victim card eloquently as well, as usual.

    Though an explanation ISN’T given as to how the statement that George Pell should be found not guilty, in his humble (yeah right), opinion, because there was ONLY ONE WITNESS in the case against Pell.

    Pfft! It was a garbage argument before the latest self-serving justification. And it still is.

    Though, I imagine we’ll get another day of ‘the baying mob’ bs as well. As if that proves anything.

  31. Like Samuel L Jackson I see the Judeo-Christian God in term of Ezekial 25:16-17
    16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast.

    17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

    I think the current government has taken the lesson of destroying the remnants of the sea coast to heart

  32. BoJo’s team are not happy campers.. the media adviser to Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid, got frogmarched out of 10 Downing St by the police.

    ‘Sonia Khan, Javid’s media adviser, was escorted from No 10 by an armed police officer after a meeting with Johnson’s top strategist, Dominic Cummings, in which she was accused of being dishonest about her contact with the former chancellor Philip Hammond and one of his ex-advisers, who have been trying to block a no-deal Brexit.

    Khan is the second adviser working for the chancellor to be sacked by No 10. She is also the fourth young woman in a month to be axed from the prime minister’s network of advisers and senior staffers.

    On Friday evening a furious Cummings was reported to have told special advisers that he was “pissed off” about “bullshit briefings” on pay and gender balance.

    In comments confirmed by two sources to the Guardian, he told the group that anyone who didn’t like his management style could “fuck off”.

    The Guardian understands that Javid demanded the meeting in support of his adviser and he will not let the matter drop. But there are increasing suggestions that he is becoming isolated from the core of Johnson’s team.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/30/sajid-javid-confronts-boris-johnson-over-advisers-sacking

  33. Pegasus @ #464 Saturday, August 31st, 2019 – 10:23 am

    WA Labor, power plays and factions in the aftermath of its state conference

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/mark-mcgowan-emerges-from-labor-party-chaos-stronger-than-ever/11464948

    Last weekend’s Labor state conference was one of the ugliest public displays of infighting within the WA party in recent memory.

    It was the most blatant show of internal divisions within the ALP since an attempted coup against leader Mark McGowan by members of his own frontbench to replace him with someone not even in State Parliament — former federal minister Stephen Smith.

    With tears, booing, heckling, abuse and walkouts — all before the TV cameras and in full view of federal Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese — it was a scene that had the WA Premier fuming and was condemned by senior party figures as everything from “embarrassing” to “disgraceful”.
    :::
    In fact, the Premier may have come out of the whole saga stronger, with his grip on the party looking tighter after internal rivals were left severely wounded.
    :::
    His critics and rivals have been bruised, while his allies in the left faction are back in a position of overwhelming dominance.

    “The left is in a better position than it has been in for years,” one Labor operative said.

    And that could have massive consequences when it comes to matters such as preselecting candidates for the 2021 state election, a process due to start within months.
    :::
    The saga will make it harder for Mr McGowan to convince voters he leads a united team, in the face of footage of several Labor MPs boycotting their Premier’s speech.

    Ugly scenes of Indigenous leaders left confused and hurt as Labor members walked out during the Welcome to Country may well stick in the minds of voters.

    Honestly, Pegasus, when you look at who was walking out and who was booing and heckling Mark McGowan, the conclusion that he has been left stronger, not weaker, as a result, is on the money. It was just the CFFMMEU again. And they are not popular anywhere right now. So, to stand up to them is seen as a positive in the wider electorate, not a negative.

  34. C@t

    Yes, and the NDIS, which was a throwaway by Rudd to keep him occupied. Shorten is a man who can build things from the ground up, not one who sails in and takes over from the top.

  35. lizzie @ #492 Saturday, August 31st, 2019 – 11:15 am

    C@t

    Yes, and the NDIS, which was a throwaway by Rudd to keep him occupied. Shorten is a man who can build things from the ground up, not one who sails in and takes over from the top.

    Don’t forget the FOFA changes too! Yes, truly a man who would have made a great Prime Minister.

    Unlike nath and Lars who will never amount to very much at all.

  36. On Friday evening a furious Cummings was reported to have told special advisers that he was “pissed off” about “bullshit briefings” on pay and gender balance.

    Ever noticed how it’s people with a dick between their legs…who don’t have to do the child-bearing, or worry themselves with child-rearing, that make these pronouncements?

  37. Ben Eltham @beneltham
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    This tweet … has not aged well

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    David Coleman MP @DavidColemanMP
    · Apr 21
    Appalled by the evil acts of terrorism in Sri Lanka. My thoughts are with the people of Sri Lanka, and the Australian Sri Lankan community, at this very difficult time.

  38. Meanwhile in the circus presided over by Clown-in-Chief….

    “Madeleine Westerhout, who left her White House job suddenly on Thursday as President Trump’s personal assistant, was fired after bragging to reporters that she had a better relationship with Trump than his own daughters, Ivanka and Tiffany Trump, and that the president did not like being in pictures with Tiffany because he perceived her as overweight.

    Given Westerhout’s sensitive role as a confidante to the president, the few details the White House shared about her abrupt firing had Washington’s political-media class in a quiet frenzy on Thursday night and Friday.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/30/trumps-personal-assistant-fired-ivanka-tiffany-1479226

  39. A reminder

    Immigration is a distraction tactic from the LNP. Just like the discrimination bill.

    Attacking people to encourage hate is LNP divide and conquer strategy.

    We are not talking about how our taxpayers money is going to Adani. Blocking the mine, preventing the opening up of the carbon bomb is not only good for the environment it saves taxpayers money.

    All for a hyped up number of jobs.
    This while TAFE is starved of funding. Medicare under attack the same way and plenty of other examples.

    Despite these distractions a recession is coming. Labor has to be ready with its tax cuts fail. Funding Pink Batts and School Halls. Giving money to Social Security (Not Using US Welfare term) recipients all worked.

    It’s the Rudd Government crowning achievement that has prevented job loss homelessness and other disaster. Remember there were a lot less homeless people on the streets.

    Labor has to hammer this. This wins the economic manager battle. That means you can act on climate. You can act education health and yes proper tax reform that specifically targets the rich.

    Use Kansas and California don’t get distracted by the they are different states and populations. That just confirms what Kansas tells us. Tax cuts cause economists activity to fall not rise.

    Hammer the point every day. Tell the world that the LNP are doubling down on bad economic management. Give Wayne Swan the respect he deserves for winning the same award as Keating.

    Do not cower to the right wing economists telling us the exact opposite of the few facts we do know.

  40. A very late — thanks BK for the Dawn Patrol.

    Warning – the following is from The Australian.

    Special prize for those recognizing the top of the head shown. Free haircuts from Mr. ‘s tonsorial artiste.

    Retail billionaire Gerry Harvey, founder and chairman of the Harvey Norman chain, has ­blasted some of the custodians of the nation’s $2.8 trillion super­annuation industry for their ­obsession with gender-diversity guidelines and “tick-a-box” mentality to corporate governance.

    Last year businessman and company director Chris Corrigan unleashed his own withering attack on the corporate governance industry and its push for gender targets for women on public company boards, accusing advocates who foisted gender equality on companies of bullying.

    If yez thinks Poll Bludger Headquarters building will be putting up them signs about gender identities.

    But wait —

    So – as “Whispering Willie” announces the competitors entering the arena for the Corporate Cigar Puffer and Beer Belly Display —-

    Sorry – I’ve just had the Colesworths man delivery my weeks goodies and will now sign out.
    I’ve just about run out of BS on this matter – I’ll leave it to others to figure out what them Wimmin have been up to to upset Mr. Harvey.

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