The latest fortnightly Essential Research poll again comes up empty on voting intention, but it does offer the pollster’s third set of leadership ratings since the election. As with Newspoll, these record a drop in Scott Morrison’s net approval rating, owing to a three point rise in disapproval to 37%, while his approval holds steady at 48%. However, Essential parts company with Newspoll in finding Anthony Albanese up on disapproval as well, by five points to 29%, with approval down one to 38%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister narrows slightly, from 44-26 to 44-28.
Further questions suggest the public leans positive on most aspects of the “influence of the United States of America” (defence, trade, cultural and business), excepting a neutral result (42% positive, 40% negative) for influence on Australian politics. The same exercise for China finds positive results for trade, neutral results for culture and business, and negative ones for defence and politics. Asked which of the two we would most benefit from strengthening ties with, 38% of respondents favoured the US and 28% China.
The small sample of respondents from New South Wales were also asked about the proposed removal of abortion from the criminal code, which was supported by an overwhelming 71% compared with 17% opposed. The poll has a sample of 1096 and was conducted online from Thursday to Sunday.
Note also the post below this one, being the latest Brexit update from Adrian Beaumont.
Peg
You’ve already achieved your “non-support”. We know. Relax.
Mexican
I am making the point Labor can campaign for the environment and win elections. That means no expansion of the coal industry with new mines.
The science is clear.
That’s it.
Few things could do more to improve Australian politics than a switch by the Greens to supporting the Liberals. This would destroy the Green PV and allow Labor to begin to rebuild its historic plurality.
It won’t happen. The Greens will maintain the pretence of being pro-Labor. This will keep the Liberals in office for many decades to come.
The science is clear. It is simple. It doesn’t matter what you say.
The Greens are practising what they prate.
It explains why they have lost at every thing for 30 years.
Guytaur
The science on climate change might be clear but to the mining workers and their families that only know mining then the science equals unemployment and lost of community. The ALP needs to create policies that lead to new jobs.
When it comes to the US, not one key US state will swing on climate change policy except one that is seen as taking away jobs.
Historyintime @ #1044 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 3:02 pm
So the Left is the Right.. and the Right is the Left …?
I can see a few problems on the horizon with that setup… 😆
The UK is the second largest economy in Europe and it is a net spender on goods and services produced by the other EU member nations. The UK’s economy is as large as the smallest 19 EU member economies combined. It is in the interests of the other EU member nations to maintain good economic relations with the UK. If French and German leaders choose, out of spite, to do the opposite, they will be hurting their own people. Sadly they have been doing that for a long time and show no sign of stopping now.
Mexican
Labor can’t have a policy for expanding coal use and a climate policy. They are diametrically opposed.
It’s up to Labor to make the political case.
Labor doesn’t do that by denying the science
Guytaur
The ALP don’t deny the science and the ALP don’t actively campaign to expand coal use but the ALP cannot willfully ignore the needs of mining communities without risking the lost of support.
It is easy to sit in Melbourne and Sydney saying it is has simple as making a case for actions on climate change but at the end of the day these communities want jobs and their local community, also people don’t want higher power bills.
Policies need to reflect this reality.
Despite what the Greens may want, it is actually possible to be proactive on climate change and allow coal use, its as simple as increasing supply from renewable energy sources.
A CNN opinion piece on Johnson and how he is betting Britain’s future ex-brexit on his relationship with Trump:
lizzie
Love it. You can just image it.
citizen
Who with half a brain would bet anything on their relationship with Trump?
Union leadership is tearing Labor apart creating wedges that are terribly destructive to the party.
But yes it’s all the Greens gizmos fault of course…
The Australian PM?
Mexican
Not what’s been reported about what Queensland Labor is doing supporting not opposing Adani.
That’s why it’s crunch time. You can’t have pro new mining coal policy and be accepting and understanding the science.
citizen
Quite so.
Mexicanbeemer @ #1059 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 3:32 pm
In your dreams, maybe.
In reality, Labor must choose – do they want the support of the 30,000 thermal coal miners who make up 0.2% of the workforce, or do they want the support of the rest of us, who make up the other 99.8%?
Hint: Labor will not win an election by wooing 30,000 voters, most of whom probably already vote Labor.
Mexicanbeemer @ #1050 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 1:12 pm
Unfortunately it is previous trade deals that have created the “rust belt”. That may be the principle reason we have Trump as POTUS. Clinton was viewed as a continuation of those same trade deals that have caused so much economic anxiety in former blue collar enclaves. They will be viewed with much cynicism in those areas again, and possibly forever.
I have no idea why posters are spending their time and energy demanding labor adopt this or that climate policy.
For the next three years at least labor will have no input into or influence on what Australia does about climate change. For the next three years at least Scott Morrison will drive climate change policy in Australia. That is the simple fact. Attack Morrison, attack the government, put pressure on those who have the power to act and stop wasting energy banging on about what labor should take to a election in three years time.
The futility of attacking labor and demanding labor do this or that is obvious so why continue with the windmill jousting ?
The only reason I can think of is the climate warriors know if they turn their attacks onto Morrison the futility and impotence of their crusade will be laid bare. Better to continue to attack the party in opposition so they can pretend all their huffing and puffing actually amounts to something instead of being a complete waste of time.
DG
Yes. It’s one reason why Trump voters will also support Sanders
Doyley
Labor says it’s for the environment. Time to show it.
That’s the point. Otherwise the Greens are right. Same same
Guytaur
So it is all about a duopoly.
Bit of a waste of time debating policy and the damage the Greens have done then isn’t it.
You do seem to have the same problem as P1 when it comes to policy. There is no shortage of coal. Closing down Queensland mines will shift supply little else.
Two things have to happen:
1) People who depend on coal have to see coal is finished; electricity generation is being moved away from it. Why, people vote and as first preference they will vote for someone that promises to keep the good times rolling.
2) Policies that move employment have to be developed.
The first is not achieved by forcing the closures of coal mines; they have to close or not open for sound economic reasons; that will happen.
They will close because of the efforts of a lot of people that don’t going around gluing themselves to roads and campaign for dyeing red gums .
In my view the second requires the investment in renewables for two reasons, a) it creates work and b) we need to keep our cheap energy supply if our economy is to thrive.
The behavior of the Greens has contributed to the problem, coal miners are now under the illusion it is blasted greens that are the problem and the Labor party are not telling them to take a hike.
Labor has to deal with the big problems created by the Green misrepresenting the situation before the deal with the big problem for Queensland, what do to about the economic disruption that is coming.
Player One
Increasing renewable energy supply will eventually reduce coal market share to the point of it becoming less important.
By dismissing it as 30,000 coal miners is making the same mistake as saying only 4% of people that are probably Liberals anyway were impacted by the franking credit policy.
In these communities that already see high unemployment, to lose 30,000 jobs is a massive impact to the sense of community. Workers want work and no government from either side can ignore that and last long.
Mexican
You are talking about the political case Labor must make. First step. Don’t buy the right wing framing. No Coal expansion. Means no new coal mines.
It’s up to Labor toaccept and understand the science so they can prosecute the case. Fail that of course the LNP win. You have caved before you started.
An A+ (538) rated pollster has a Trump approval rating of -15pts during the week.
And the Rasmussen poll (538 rated c+) has miraculously reversed its recent low (for them) Trump approval rating. An incredible 12pt turn around in a week has put Trump ahead. Amazing. Must have been a great week for Trump the Dragon Warrior chosen one.
guytaur,
Meanwhile while you and the other keyboard warriors demand labor do this or that Morrison and co get away with doing nothing.
Great game plan. For the next three years attack labor and let Morrison get away with business as usual.
Anyway adopting your game plan will ensure six years at least of nothing being achieved. At least you, the greens and others will be able to keep up the climate impotency campaign against labor.
FredNK
You are mistaken thinking you can pretend to be for the environment and for coal expansion.
It’s Labor policy that’s the problem for Labor not the Greens.
Guytaur
The ALP didn’t lose in May because it lost pro-climate change electorates, it lost because it lost a string of pro-coal electorates, retiree dominated marginals and outer suburban electorates.
Doyley
Labor caved over the carbon price. The LNP lost the GST with fightback. Yet here we are today with a GST.
Labor needs to get some spine to fight.
Nicholas says:
Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 3:25 pm
Check you data
Germany has the highest GDP.
At best GB is 20% of the Europe economy.
doyley @ #1077 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 3:59 pm
What does it matter if Labor are voting for the Morrison agenda anyway …?
If you’re opposed to the Morrison Govt then you’re opposed to Labor because they’re voting for the Govts agenda.
Mexican
Labor will lose votes in the South with its pro coal policy. Permanent opposition fighting for coal being same same with the LNP.
Bill Shorten knew this. He at least tried to pretend he was against Adani. He did that for good reason.
doyley @ #1070 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 3:50 pm
Because our best hope is that Labor adopts a genuine policy in place of the contradictory mess they have now. The Greens are a hopeless dead end, but the Liberals may do so if they are forced into it. And one way to force them to adopt some kind of policy is if Labor looks like they have a chance of winning the next election on the basis of a rational climate policy. But good policy takes a while to establish, and it will also take time to educate the public to accept that there are some hard decisions to be made – so the sooner they start, the better.
Anything is better than sleepwalking to extinction, which is what Australia is doing now 🙁
frednk @ #1073 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 3:54 pm
And you seem to have the same problem as Labor when it comes to policy. You’ve dug yourself so deep into the coal mine that you can no longer see a way out.
guytaur says:
Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 4:00 pm
FredNK
You are mistaken thinking you can pretend to be for the environment and for coal expansion.
It’s Labor policy that’s the problem for Labor not the Greens.
If is a very very simple concept guytaur, there will be no expansion if the demand is not there. As things stand coal mining in Queensland will shrink. Mines being put into care and maintenance is not a new concept.
All the Greens are ding is creating difficulties for those trying to deal with the issues it will create.
guytaur,
Nothing can be achieved from opposition. You must be in government.
Labor lost the 2019 election. Taking the same policy suite to the next election is pointless let alone ramping them up even more.
Howard was successful in introducing the GST from government not from opposition.
Hewson took the GST to the 1993 election from opposition. Fail. Howard dropped the GST from the policy agenda and won the 1996 election.
Then Howard took the GST to the voters election from government. Success.
Your last post simply proves my point. Banging your head against the same brick wall Election after election from opposition is pointless.
Doyley
Labor is in government. It’s called The Queensland Labor government.
Also oppositions are expected to oppose.
The LNP know how to do it. Labor doesn’t at the moment instead it’s LNP how high do you want us to jump.
Exhibit A: contradicting your argument. Medicare as successor to Medibank. We got Universal Healthcare
P1
Frednk shakes head and walks away.
guytaur,
Are you serious ? You were the one who posted Hewson and Howard as the example to supposedly prove your point.
So, we are only talking about the Queensland labor government now ?
Morrison and co can do what they like but it is all the fault of Queensland labor.
For fuck sake. At least pretend to stay consistent.
frednk @ #1089 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 4:11 pm
And you Labor partisans still wonder why you lost the election 🙁
FredNK
Just as a missile launched can’t be stopped it’s the same for the fate of coal. You either help the workers deal with the inevitable arrival or you do not. That’s the economic choice.
Doyley
The Labor party is both State and Federal Labor. The goal of emissions reduction including no coal expansion is policy for both levels of government to resolve
The price of being in government and opposition at the same time.
The consistency is expecting policy that reflects not opposes the goal to be achieved.
Player one,
Morrison will drive climate policy in this country for the next three years at least.
The planet is pretty well fucked now. Another three to six years will ensure any action will be nothing more than palliative care anyway but what needs to be done is to concentrate all of your energy on the now and not what may happen politically in three years time. Attacking labor achieves nothing. Labor has no power to do anything.
Instead of demanding the party in opposition do this or that attack Morrison now. Put pressure on Morrison now. Worrying what labor takes to the next election in three years time is pointless and sad.
Doyley
Your last post is a great example of why Labor needs to be an Opposition. Not a jellyfish. Despite their posts on twitter and in emails the Greens are not the official Opposition. The clue is in the name.
“The science is clear.
That’s it.”
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You don’t have a scientific bend in your body.
You don’t understand economics.
You have no comprehension of political science.
You do a strong line in pop left inner city fulmination.
That’s it. All you got.
Anyway, time for me to do something in the real world.
I will leave poll bludger to those who thrive on purity and impotence.
Cheers to all.
doyley @ #1094 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 4:26 pm
Seriously? Is it any wonder Labor is bleeding voters? If they truly think their job is to just sit around for three years waiting for the next election, then they will lose that one as well – and deservedly so 🙁
Hitching you’re wagon to the coal titanic and saying or doing nothing. No wonder Albo is asking for help.
citizen @ #1065 Saturday, August 24th, 2019 – 3:41 pm
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Is it time for the cricket yet ❓