Happy trails

As the election campaign enters a hiatus, a look at where the leaders have been and why.

As the Easter/Anzac Day suspension of hostilities begins, it may be instructive to look at where the leaders have travelled during the campaign’s preliminary phase. Featured over the fold is a display listing the electorates that have been targeted, as best as I can tell, and a very brief summary of what they were up to while they were there. Certain entries are in italics where it is seems clear that the area was not targeted for its electoral sensitivity, such as Bill Shorten’s visit to Melbourne’s West Gate Tunnel project to get some good vision presenting him as a champion of infrastructure, which happened to place him in the unloseable Labor seat of Gellibrand. There are also a few entries that clearly targeted more than one electorate, in which case the margin for the secondary elected is listed on a second line.

What stands out is that Scott Morrison has hit a number of Labor-held seats, consistent with the optimistic impression the Liberals are presenting about their prospects – an assessment which, on this evidence, does not look to be fully shared by Labor. The only activity of Shorten’s that had Labor territory as its primary target was his visit to the Northern Territory on Thursday. Of equal interest to Shorten’s pattern of travel is the clarity of Labor’s early campaign theme of health policy, in contrast of the grab bag of messages promoted by Scott Morrison.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Have any of the majors committed to a faster rollout of Home Care packages for our seniors doing it tough at home ?

    The wait of 12-18 months is a scandal.

  2. Victoria @ #289 Saturday, April 20th, 2019 – 2:41 pm

    Hmmm

    Alex Turnbull
    @alexbhturnbull
    Guys pour one out for
    @AngusTaylorMP
    and his career. The digital footprints on his wiki are the end of him. #auspol

    Hi guys, Just back from busting my arse for the community at our Easter Sale. Saw Senator John Faulkner. Looking tall, dark and handsome as usual. 🙂

    So what’s this thing about the digital footprints on Angus Taylor’s wiki?

  3. I see the Greens history rewriters are at it again, trying to pretend that the carbon price had nothing to do with Labor’s troubles and the loss of the 2013 election. This of course is pure fantasy. The multi party agreement went further on climate change than the electorate was prepared to accept, but perhaps worse still it went further than Labor had said they would go at the 2010 election. This allowed Abbott to hit Labor hard on trust. There were of course hysterical elements to the carbon scare campaign, like $100 lamb roasts. But the trust line hurt both Labor and of course Julia Gillard personally. This is not a mistake Labor will repeat, no matter how much the Greens demand otherwise. Labor will of course deal respectfully with all members of the cross bench. But they will not be dragged to a position unacceptable to the broad Australian electorate by a party who represent no more than 10 percent of it. How the Greens deal with this reality will be up to them. I will say again; for those interested in the reality of how the carbon agreement was actually received at the time, take a look back at the polls. A hint, start from Newspoll, March 8, 2011.

  4. Doorknocking in Pearce this morning….voters have barely noticed the Lib media campaign…seem to me to be no less willing to support Labor than they were one month or six months ago. The field campaign rolls on – good spirits, plenty of energy, well run, well organised, plenty of targets still to hit…candidate, Kim Travers in really good form…..lots of Labor-positive voters, no Gs, no ON. No UAP….going well

  5. rhw

    IMO WaterGate 2.0 will act to confirm vague suspicions about just how very, very lucky so very many people have been to have been in the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison governments or to have been friends with these governments. Occasionally their luck ran out but that was only temporary. Sinodinos got unlucky with the Water Board stuff was demoted but later got a promotion. Robert who was unlucky in China and who had to be demoted was also promoted subsequently. Ley who was unlucky with her Gold Coast property investment trips, got demoted, but then also got lucky and got promoted whereat she forgot all about her TLC for animals suffering in the live export trade.

    Just to remind us all about how much good luck abounded:

    Abbott: Lucky $80,000 (?)Rolex Watch
    Robert: Lucky $80,000 (?) Rolex Watch
    McFarlane: Lucky $80,000 (?)Rolex Watch
    Robert: Unlucky China Business Trip
    Ley: Unlucky Gold Coast Business Trips
    Sinodinos: Lucky Water Holdings Sergeant Schultz
    Joyce: Unlucky Motorbike Prang
    Joyce: Unlucky 4×4 Prang
    Joyce: Lucky Love Shack
    Joyce: Lucky Job for the Other Woman
    Joyce: Lucky Mongrel Country Buy
    Joyce: Lucky Farmer of the Year Cheque
    Joyce: Lucky Wedding Trip to India
    Joyce: Lucky Trip to Smith’s Wedding
    JBishop: Lucky Wedding Trip to India
    Gambaro: Lucky Wedding Trip to India
    Brandis: Lucky Wedding Trip to Smith’s Nuptials
    Hockey: Lucky Helloworld Buy
    Cormann: Lucky Free Family Trip
    Morrison: Unlucky Bus Plane Bus Plane Trip
    BBishop: Lucky Mirabella Wedding Trip
    BBishop: Unlucky Helicopter Trip
    Porter: Lucky Campaign Bus
    Keenan: Lucky Fifth
    Cash: Lucky Fifth
    Downer: Unlucky Fake Cheque
    JBishop: Lucky $50,000 Liberal Party Donation
    JBishop: Lucky Polo Trip
    Pyne: Lucky Christmas Trip
    Porter: Lucky Campaign Bus
    Mirabella: Lucky Sub Expert
    Sudmalis: Lucky UN Observer Stint
    Hockey: Lucky Childcare Leaner
    Robb: Lucky Post China FTA China Job
    Billson: Lucky Double
    Abbott: Lucky Indigenous Envoy
    Joyce: Lucky Drought Envoy
    Turnbull: Unlucky $1.75 Million Donation
    Abbott: Lucky Daughter’s Scholarship
    Wilson: Lucky Human Rights Commissioner Gig
    Parry Unlucky S44 Heave Ho
    Porter: Lucky Pal Parry
    Parry: Lucky AAT Gig
    Briggs: Unlucky in Love
    Cash: Lucky in the Property Game
    Ley: Lucky Pilot Fees
    Robert: Bad Phone Luck
    Turnbull: Lucky Tax Haven
    Robert: Lucky Dip Share Gifts
    Porter: Lucky No Bells Ringing
    Frydenberg: Lucky No Bells Ringing
    O’Dwyer: Lucky No Bells Ringing
    Hockey: Lucky No Bells Ringing
    Brandis: Lucky London Gig
    Brandis: Lucky Diary No-show
    Robert: Lucky Home Internet
    Robert: Lucky Sunland Dip
    Robert: Lucky Office Resources
    Bushby: Lucky Chicago High Commissioner Gig.
    Hunt: Unlucky Elder Tirade
    Sukkar: Unlucky Sums
    Downer: Lucky Chevening Scholarship
    Dutton: Lucky Paladin Innocent Bystander
    Dutton: Lucky s44 non referral
    Porter: Lucky Baldwin Pal.
    Bob Baldwin: Lucky AAT Gig
    Joseph Francis: Lucky AAT Gig
    William Frost: Lucky AAT Gig
    De-Anne Kelly: Lucky AAT Gig
    Michael Sutherland: Lucky AAT Gig
    Tony Barry: Lucky AAT Gig
    John Griffin: Lucky AAT Gig
    Robert Clark: Lucky Helloworld Sponsorship
    Donna Petrovich: Lucky AAT Gig.
    Patricia Forsythe: Lucky NZ High Commissioner Gig.
    Steve Ciobo: Lucky Indonesia Trip.
    Perrotet: Lucky campaign donation from former law firm that gets government contracts.
    Nigel Hallett Lucky Dip
    Phil Edman Lucky Dip
    Brian Ellis Lucky Dip
    Josh Thomas Lucky $350,000 GBRMPA Gig.
    Quite a few other Liberal hacks, too numerous to mention, also got plum lucky.
    Stone Lucky $500,000 Flood Plan Gig.

    Then of course there were the systemic differences in the way different organizations were treated: Newscorp get all the lucky scoops, millions of dollars flowed, hundreds of millions were allocated to attack the unions but the banking industry spivs were protected with desperation.

    So far this election five different Liberal candidates have had to go for one reason or another.

  6. Trust a bunch of Inner City Greenies to not understand the cultural sensitivities of Indigenous Australians.

    Useless frauds.

  7. Boerwar:

    When Labor introduces a federal ICAC there will certainly be lots of things for it to get its teeth into, courtesy of the conduct of the coalition govt.

  8. ABCC serving court documents on individual workers at their homes in WA ahead of Easter. Facing max penalties of $42k each for alleged unlawful industrial action. @sallymcmanus accuses ABCC of “disgusting anti-worker, anti-family” conduct”. @australian

  9. ‘Confessions says:
    Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    Boerwar:

    When Labor introduces a federal ICAC there will certainly be lots of things for it to get its teeth into, courtesy of the conduct of the coalition govt.’

    Indeed. Labor’s ICAC will have powers similar to a Royal Commission.

  10. “Try looking at it from the Indigenous point of view.”

    I am. You should try NOT looking at it from the point of view of blindly hating the Greens.

    “Do you don’t ‘protect’ Indigenous values by trashing them by drawing a (fake) rig on top of Uluru as depicted in the video you are defending?”

    I’m not defending a video. I’m defending the photo I posted earlier.

    “Further, that fake picture of a rig within sight (and sound) of Uluru is not possible. The reasons are numerous that there would be enough litigation to keep everyone going until 2100: listed sacred sites under the Act; World Heritage legislation protections; protection under the National Parks regulations; protections by way of triggers for the EPBC Act, and, finally, commercial protections. The company that owns Yulara would sue the arse off any attempt to put a drilling rig on the sunset viewing location. The rest of the NT tourism industry would go apeshit.

    The image of a drilling rig on top of Uluru is not only a lie, it is disrespectful to Indigenous values.
    The image of a drilling rig in the vicinity of the sunset viewing area is also a lie because it is not possible.”

    Santos had/has plans to frack within 75km of Uluru itself. That’s awfully close. It’s not at all unreasonable to depict a rig in the desert near Uluru considering that. Of course it’s a Photoshopped picture! It’s saying that we can’t allow this to happen! You might be ok with fracking near Uluru but many people, including First Australians, definitely are not.

    See for yourself. There is/were permits or applications for permits all over the bottom of the NT. No. Just no.

  11. Fess

    Yes. Still amazes me that the CPG and the fiberals hounded JGillard over what her ex boyfriend may or may not have done when she was a young lawyer..

  12. I missed it. Did Morrison
    1. say it was rubbish.
    2. say it didn’t happen?
    3. say he knew nothing about it.
    4. ignore the questioner?

  13. So now we have the Greens lying about they are going to force Labor to do and the Liberals lying about what Labor and the Greens have already done.

    Liberals/Greens same old same old.
    Australian electoral politics as normal: both extremes against the sensible centre-left.

  14. Boerwar

    Morrison figures if it works for Trump, why not him. Eventually the mountain of bullshit is going to engulf our Scotty. Just hope it is in time for him to be kicked to the kerb at the election.

  15. Matt31

    More excuses for not properly defending the Gillard legislation.

    Basically taken out of the climate deniers playbook.

    That’s exactly their narrative. Blame Labor for being effective with consensus building politics.

    See ACT as to why this is effective. Or NZ or Europe.

    Its only the right that was holding Labor to do the impossible aided by their compliant media.

    Gillard promised action on climate change. She delivered. Just not the process due to election results.

    Part of the lie of course was that voters didn’t get to vote Rudd out. Ignored Gillard was elected.

    The right got what they wanted. The accepted narrative voters wanted to vote Rudd out themselves.

    You can bet your bottom dollar they won’t say that if Morrison somehow despite polling forms a Minority Government

    Stop blaming the Greens for the media narrative especially ignoring the conservatives to the right of Labor who voted for it too

  16. Victoria:

    I wonder whatever happened to that Bagman that News ltd flew over to ‘testify’ against Gillard. I wonder if he’s still alive in Thailand or wherever he crawled out from.

  17. “Trust a bunch of Inner City Greenies to not understand the cultural sensitivities of Indigenous Australians.

    Useless frauds.”

    Trust right wing Labor trolls to try and use First Australians to attack the Greens. Absolutely fking disgraceful. Shame on you. You may not care if they frack the fk out of the desert around Uluru but we do.

    Oh and running the “inner city” just makes you sound like someone from the alt-right. As if people in the city shouldn’t have a say. Besides, I live nowhere near an inner city yet I live in a Greens seat (Ballina). Got another stereotype you want to trot out?

  18. Firefox
    ‘Santos had/has plans to frack within 75km of Uluru itself. That’s awfully close. ‘

    Santos had no intention of putting a drilling rig on top of Uluru. Drawing one in on top of Uluru is both a disrespectful abuse and a lie.

    Santos have no intention of putting a drilling rig near the Sunset Viewing Area. Photoshopping a drill into that location is a lie.

    BTW, 75 km gets you to the other side of the NT/SA border or to the north of Lake Amadeus. In other words, completely beyond sight and sound of Uluru.

    If you keep digging your Greens hole, you might hit gas!

  19. Oh dear. Shots fired across the bow of Sky News and Morrison by Turnbull.

    Malcolm Turnbull
    @TurnbullMalcolm

    I see @David_Speers is referring to the National Energy Guarantee as “Malcolm Turnbull’s NEG”. In fact the NEG had the support of the entire Cabinet, including and especially the current PM and Treasurer. It was approved by the Party Room on several occasions.

    Malcolm Turnbull
    @TurnbullMalcolm

    That is the only reason it has been abandoned by the Government. The consequence is no integration of energy and climate policy, uncertainty continues to discourage investment with the consequence, as I have often warned, of both higher emissions and higher electricity prices.

  20. Fess

    Yeah. Wonder about him too. Perhaps JBishop has kept in touch. After all. She “accidentally” bumped into him in Melbourne at the height of the shit show.
    I wonder if these people ever feel any shame for their conduct

  21. The Guardian political podcast is with Gabrielle Chan today.

    Very bad news for the Nationals.

    Confirming what we thought.

    This whole Watergate thing will resonate with farmers.
    They went to all those meetings. Agreed to water restrictions only to have it sold off to mates.

  22. I missed a possible reply. Blame Labor!

    Cheryl Kernot
    ‏@cheryl_kernot

    Morrison blames Shorten for re-visiting #Watergate2019 ‍♀️‍♀️He knows it has been raised by media & Twitter. A deliberate lie & fudged answer.#AUSVotes2019

  23. Matt31

    A reminder for you. Windsor represented New England. Nationals Territory.

    Nothing Green with his vote on the climate legislation

  24. margo69
    ‏@margo694
    3h3 hours ago

    Bill mentioned the water rort on ABC News and was contradicted by the reporter. Something fishy doing on at the ABC.

  25. Boerwar @ #2967 Saturday, April 20th, 2019 – 3:10 pm

    rhw

    IMO WaterGate 2.0 will act to confirm vague suspicions about just how very, very lucky so very many people have been to have been in the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison governments or to have been friends with these governments. Occasionally their luck ran out but that was only temporary. Sinodinos got unlucky with the Water Board stuff was demoted but later got a promotion. Robert who was unlucky in China and who had to be demoted was also promoted subsequently. Ley who was unlucky with her Gold Coast property investment trips, got demoted, but then also got lucky and got promoted whereat she forgot all about her TLC for animals suffering in the live export trade.

    So far this election five different Liberal candidates have had to go for one reason or another.

    Actually I suspect that the major victim of #watergate is Taylor. The Beetrooter is dead CARP already – he’s so obviously on Gina’s tit that even the New England Cowpunchers of my acquaintance regard him as a Loser who got caught. Taylor has no idea how to avoid the shit that will descend on him – not for being an entitled Spiv with public money (that is a matter of pride for the GRASPers) but for using the Cayman Island tax haven pioneered by Turnbull. Like Turnbull, Taylor is about to find out how disposable he is.

  26. Andrew LeighVerified account @ALeighMP
    6h6 hours ago

    Hey, @AngusTaylorMP, remember the old days, when you used to think tax havens were a bad thing? #watergate #auspol

    :large

  27. I can’t see any mention of “Watergate” on ABC. If I’ve never heard of it there’s 0 chance any voters who actually matter have heard of it.

  28. Firefox @ #252 Saturday, April 20th, 2019 – 1:23 pm

    “I see the ALP/Greens feud is continuing unabated. Sigh.”

    We are all in desperate need of some nutty Liberals on PB so we can turn our attention to them instead lol. There’s just none here! Or if they are they’re being very very quiet. It’s hard to debate against Coalition supporters when there’s none to argue against.

    I volunteer to be a Coalition sock-puppet for the sake of debate.

    CSP: Coal is good. Water is money. Workers are not human. Greed is bestest. A poor man cannot more pass through the eye of a camel before a rich man enters heaven with a golden needle. Peasants are revolting. Money, money, money, it’s a rich man’s world.

    PMTD. There, job done. Discuss. I am going to shower in disinfectant.

  29. Itep

    The ABC won’t go big if they can avoid it as they are planning it for Insiders as tweeted posts shared from last night show.

    Good for Labor. Sunday night news will be about it.

  30. Farmers are “angry” over allegations aired on The Project that record prices were paid by former Minister for Agriculture and Water Resources Barnaby Joyce under the buy-back scheme to a company founded by current Energy Minister Angus Taylor.

    No Fibs spoke with Independent candidate for Farrer Kevin Mack (@Mack4Farrer), who said the level of outrage was already high before revelations about the Ministers’ behaviour were aired.

    Mack told No Fibs the latest allegations surrounding Angus Taylor and Barnaby Joyce have increased the level of anger in the rural city of Griffith.

    One guy was going around saying he wanted to burn the flag

    People are saying:

    they’re pirating water they’re stealing water

    Mack said:

    If you read and listen to what was on with Angus Taylor, Barnaby Joyce and others in the Liberal Party, it would appear to be personal gain.

    it’s off-farm water, it’s also floodplain water, it wasn’t even irrigated water, they’ve given them money for water that doesn’t exist but if it floods it could exist.

    https://nofibs.com.au/farrervotes-farmers-outraged-over-water-piracy-jansant-reports-on-watergate/#.XLquG_MjejA.twitter

  31. “Santos had no intention of putting a drilling rig on top of Uluru. Drawing one in on top of Uluru is both a disrespectful abuse and a lie.

    Santos have no intention of putting a drilling rig near the Sunset Viewing Area. Photoshopping a drill into that location is a lie.

    BTW, 75 km gets you to the other side of the NT/SA border or to the north of Lake Amadeus. In other words, completely beyond sight and sound of Uluru.

    If you keep digging your Greens hole, you might hit gas!”

    If you keep defending Santos and using First Australians as pawns in your attempts to attack the Greens, you will sound like a far right nutter. Oh wait, you already do.

    Did you even look at the map? Nah you’re just trolling as usual. You really are a disgrace and represent everything that’s wrong with the Labor Right.

    But we know why you’re so blindly in favour of fracking the NT don’t we mate. Who recently lifted the ban on fracking in the NT? Oh, the NT LABOR government of course. What a surprise. Not.

    Of course the fed Coalition had been doing dirty deals with the NT Labor government to get them to lift the ban. Turnbull and Morrison paid Gunner off. Absolutely DISGRACEFUL that Labor would sell out to the Coalition. Then you have the hide to come and try and attack the Greens over it. How dare you.

    Quote:

    Last year [2017], the federal Coalition, seeking to avoid long-term gas shortages, warned it could use the GST carve-up to force states and territories to lift fracking bans.

    At a speech in September, the prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, called on Gunner – who was in the audience – to “pull the trigger … we need that gas down here”.

    A week after the NT ended its ban in April, the treasurer, Scott Morrison, gave the territory an extra $260m to make up for its low GST share, as well as an extra $550m over five years for remote Indigenous housing. He denied the timing of the decision was linked to the lifting of the moratorium.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/18/not-safe-not-wanted-is-the-end-of-nt-fracking-ban-a-taste-of-things-to-come

    And so the truth comes out. How utterly disgusting.

    Good on the residents of the NT for telling Labor and the Coalition to frack off.

  32. Matt31 @ 3:07pm.

    Spot on. Of course thick as two planks Guytaur goes straight into Greentaur mode.

    Mate – I loved the Gillard government, but I was the one doing cognitive dissonance as it all turned to custard from March 2011.

    The only rational conclusion was the deal struck with the Greens and aye supported by Windsor and Oakshott in the house was perceived as a massive breach of trust.

    Now, you can rightly blame Labor for its leadership for much of its loss of votes, but how do you account for the 500,000 votes the Greens lost in the senate? Or the fact that both Windsor and Oakshott ‘retired’ at the 2013 election, only to immediately make a Melbaesque comeback?

    The political reality is that Labor has learnt from the 2011-13 era. It has also learnt from the 2009-10 era. It won’t be repeating its mistakes.

    On the other hand the Greens have never taken responsibility for their actions. Never even acknowledged the political drubbing it suffered in 2013 and will either attempt a 2009 Mexican stand off if it doesn’t hold the balance of power in its own right or a 2011 ‘surprise’ deal with labor which will be so far removed from the Overton window that it will be rightly rejected.

    The only solution to this impasse probably doesn’t involve the Greens at all. Either enough RWNJ will be defeated that opposition leader Josh Frydenberg will agree to a ‘NEG Plus’ deal involving CA or Labor will proceed as best it can by regulation and fight a DD election on senate obstructionism in about 2021.

  33. AE

    The political reality is that Labor PB posters here have not learnt.

    I am not surprised at your comments. You deny the narrative put out by your own party President and ex Worlds Best Treasurer That Neoliberalism trickle down economics is dead

  34. Strangely enough, not a single voter has ever raised with this doorknocker the historical matters of the Gillard/Milne Deal. Not one. Not ever. I would venture to say that 9/10 voters would not recall Milne without prompting. Fewer than 5/10 would recall Gillard without prompting. Fewer than 5/100 would understand there had been a formal deal of some kind involving Labor, the Libkin and the Indies between 2010 and 2013.

    This stuff is all arcana to voters.

    Voters are thinking about the future. They want change. They know the LNP are trying to raise fears and largely see thru it. They have very pronounced feelings of disappointment and regret over the conduct of the Lib government – over their own personal experiences of the last few years.

    These are the factors that will determine the election, no matter the self-serving games of the Lib-Libs and the Lib-Lings.

  35. Firefox @ #322 Saturday, April 20th, 2019 – 3:24 pm

    “Trust a bunch of Inner City Greenies to not understand the cultural sensitivities of Indigenous Australians.

    Useless frauds.”

    Trust right wing Labor trolls to try and use First Australians to attack the Greens. Absolutely fking disgraceful. Shame on you. You may not care if they frack the fk out of the desert around Uluru but we do.

    Oh and running the “inner city” just makes you sound like someone from the alt-right. As if people in the city shouldn’t have a say. Besides, I live nowhere near an inner city yet I live in a Greens seat (Ballina). Got another stereotype you want to trot out?

    Inner City-Sea Change area
    Same-Same

    And you have no right to get on Pegasus’ high horse back and call me ‘Alt Right’ or a ‘Labor troll’. YOU are the one that wouldn’t know cultural sensitivity of indigenous Australians if you fell over it at the Ballina markets! I’m not using Indigenous Australians to attack you, I’m simply trying to point out to someone who obviously has no freaking clue about Indigenous Australians’ cultural sensitivities that they are a clueless numpty.

    And don’t think you can use your, The Greens are purer than thou schtick to attack Boerwar and I either. My cousin by marriage was the Northern Territory’s Indigenous Affairs Minister in Clair martin’s government and I have had many, many friends that have lived and worked in Central Australia. As has Boerwar himself, lived and worked in Central Australia. So your indignation schtick is worth nothing and is a meaningless pile of poo to us.

    The only Indigenous Australians The Greens have ever dealt with live in Inner City Melbourne.

  36. steve davis @ #247 Saturday, April 20th, 2019 – 1:48 pm

    Murdoch spent 3 full years of the hung parliament 2010-2013 to try to get rid of Labor because they had such a slim majority.The public were conned into voting a nong (Abbott). Now he is doing exactly the same this time round to get another nong into power for his own interests,no one elses. The voters need to see it and think for themselves. I’m still unconvinced that the voters have learnt anything yet.

    I almost wish Rudd had not contested the 2010 election and just stood back and let Gillard and her co-conspirators stew in their own juice.

    Abbott would have won and would then have had a resounding loss in 2013.

  37. I recall reading in one of the Murdoch Lyin’ ShitSheets that Lucien Eye was going to go quiet during the election campaign. Should have checked with him – this helpful contribution just now …

  38. Firefox @ #248 Saturday, April 20th, 2019 – 1:48 pm

    “This is a noble stance indeed, it is like she was the PM and has the integrity and strength to stand by what she did, oh wait.”

    Of course! Gillard actually negotiated well with the Greens and treated us with respect, unlike many in Labor. In return we supported her government all the way to the bitter end. The ETS was a Greens’ policy that we took to the election and got Labor to support. An ETS with a fixed price period. There was no carbon “tax”. That was pure right wing spin.

    You’re right, Australia did disown the Rudd/Gillard government in 2013. Don’t even try to blame that all on the ETS, carbon price/tax, or whatever you want to call it. Labor’s own leadership civil war was unquestionably the most damaging thing to their chances of re-election. After three long years of fighting themselves what did Labor expect? Despite this, the Greens remained loyal to their agreement to be part of the minority government and made sure it survived until the end. It was a very productive government too.

    What “she said” matters. She was the Labor leader at the time.

    Gillard did not need to negotiate with the Greens to form a Govt. Bandt was pledged to support Labor.

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