Newspoll: 53.5-46.5 to Labor in Victoria

Four polls now concur that Labor is set to be returned in Victoria with a favourable swing of 1% to 2%.

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With The Australian bringing us a Newspoll conducted on Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 1077, here is a run through each of the late polls, all of which say much the same thing:

• Newspoll has Labor’s lead at 53.5-46.5, compared with 54-46 at the start of the campaign. The primary votes are Labor 41% (steady, and up from 38.1% in 2014), Coalition 40% (up one, down from 42.0% in 2014) and the Greens 11% (steady, down from 11.5%). Daniel Andrews’ personal ratings are unchanged at 45% approval and 40% disapproval, while Matthew Guy is up three to 34% and steady on 46%, and Andrews’ lead as preferred premier narrows slightly from 45-29 to 45-33. The Liberals have improved on the issue polling since the start of the campaign, going from 39-38 ahead to 45-37 ahead on law and order, and from 45-37 behind to 43-42 behind on the economy, but apparently it hasn’t translated into votes.

• Yesterday’s uComms/ReachTEL poll for The Age had Labor leading 54-46, with primary votes (after removal of the 5.1% undecided) of Labor 40.8%, Coalition 37.8% and Greens 11.0%. The poll was conducted Wednesday from a sample of 1239.

• Yesterday’s YouGov Galaxy poll in the Herald Sun conducted Tuesday and Wednesday from a sample of 1061, had it at 53-47, from primary votes of Labor 40%, Coalition 40% and Greens 11%, with Andrews leading Guy 47-35 as preferred premier. I observe that the Herald Sun’s front page headline accompanying the report was “Dan’s to lose”, meaning “the election is Dan’s to lose”, anod not “Dan is to lose the election”.

• Roy Morgan has also turned out an SMS poll, conducted yesterday from a sample of 1469, the selling point of which is that separate results are published for those who have voted already and those who have not. The poll gives Labor a lead of 53-47 among the former and 55-45 among the latter.

I’ve run all that through my poll tracker, the trend results of which are featured below the fold, and the full detail of which can be found on my election guide. The final result, would you believe it, is 53.5-46.5 in favour of Labor.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

157 comments on “Newspoll: 53.5-46.5 to Labor in Victoria”

  1. kezza2,
    Good to hear that you’re going okay. I thought you’d be missing Ginnie and was hoping it wasn’t getting you down too much. Also good to hear you have a part time job, they make a difference to either subsisting or having a few comforts and treats. I also hope that your rellie with the drug problem is still on the up and up, it’s a diabolical road to hoe when you consider the way that the drugs put virtual chemical handcuffs on your brain. It’s hard to pick the lock and free yourself! But it can be done. Just takes a LOT of determination. 🙂

    As far as my brood is going, well, my youngest goes back into hospital next week for another major operation, he’s used to it and has the best attitude of anyone I have come across who needs to be in and out of hospital as much as he does. He just hopes he gets a room with good views out the window, and he hopes it will be the last time he needs to go in there!

    My other son is going to start a business auditing people’s pantries so that he can get rid of the rubbish they eat and advise them on better eating habits. He’s a health nut whose latest enthusiasm is rock climbing around our way. Luckily, and I praise all the deities in the world combined, neither of them have any interest in smoking, drinking alcohol OR taking drugs. It can always change at any moment, of course, but they are both past the age now where these things seem enticing, but I always keep my fingers crossed about it.

    Other than that, I am turning into a grumpy old lady as my arthritis gives me gip and I take it out on the unlucky denizens of PB. 😆

    Take care. And go Victorian Labor! You lucky citizens of Victoria.

  2. Ladbrokes terms for the election betting said that it was going to be suspended at 8.00am (official opening of polling). I think Sportsbet has the election going “in play”, like betting on the footy during the game.
    The seat by seat betting would be too hard to monitor “in play” for a bookmaker after the close of polls.

  3. C@t

    I’m afraid I’ve lost patience with the ice-addict. Told him to f off. Never to darken my doorway, etc. But, of course, he still does. I know he’s trying his best, but he keeps falling off the wagon. What to do? I don’t know. I’ve given it my best shot.

    My kids just say to leave it alone. And so I will.

    I doubt he’ll end up doing wheelies at the intersection of Swanston & Flinders, but his grasp on reality is totally warped.

    May I ask about the medical problem with your youngest? Whatever the case he seems to have an optimistic personality. That’s good.

    And your other son’s business idea isn’t so crazy. I’ve seen lots of stories about the success of pantry-clean-ups. Good for him.

    I know nothing about arthritis, except for a few pangs I have, and am hoping it’s not the same.

    Take care, C@t.

  4. @lhilakari

    BUSTED: Unable to staff all of their booths, the Liberal Party are dropping young people off in busses and paying them $20p.h. cash. That’s below the minimum wage. No wonder they don’t want wage theft laws #vicvotes #springst


    The Liberals have to pay people to hand out HTVs. This is everything you need to know about the Liberals. The small, rich group of people Libs represent would never volunteer their time, so instead they pay people peanuts to pretend to be Liberal supporters. The end.

  5. It’s worth adding, that according to the VEC, “During the hours of voting a candidate or registered political party may display up to two notices or signs not exceeding 600 mm x 900 mm within 100 metres of a Designated Entrance of the voting centre. No other notices or signs in relation to the election, other than official notices, may be displayed in this area at this time.”

    The ALP, Liberals and Greens all had more than two at my booth, although perhaps the interpretation is something such as two for the candidate and two for the party, or two for the upper and two for the lower house. Haven’t bothered to google it to confirm.

  6. Looks like I broke it.
    Try this way instead.

    Your votes matter: Here’s what happens when they count them all
    Gerard Cockburn The Age November 23, 2018

    What happens after we’ve done our civic duty and voted? How soon will we discover which party will govern Victoria for the next four years?
    The VEC will count most of the votes on Saturday.
    The Victorian Electoral Commission is aiming to count most of the 4.1 million votes that will be cast on election night, and hopes to be able to call the result by 9.00pm. But even with the main result known, counting will continue for some time. Here’s how it will all unfold:
    Election day

    8.00am Polling stations will open across Victoria. Postal vote sorting for all 88 electorates will also begin at the centralised postal count centre.

    4.00pm Sorting of the early votes will begin in each early voting election office with a priority given to district votes that are part of the electorate.

    6.00pm Polling centres will close and ordinary votes issued at the polling stations will be sorted and counted.

    Counting of lower house votes will be done manually and counting for upper house seats will be conducted by computer.

    Postal votes that were received by Friday will be counted at the centralised postal voting centre. Counting of first preference and two-candidate preferred votes will continue until the last day of admission, which is next Friday. The counting of early votes that were cast at pre-polling booths will also start at 6.00pm.
    The following days

    Sunday and Monday First preference counting of region postal votes will take place and will continue until next Friday.

    Monday Counting of first-preference region early votes will begin.

    Wednesday Early votes that have been taken from other districts will begin to be counted, after the declaration exchange takes place on Monday or Tuesday. The counting of absent votes for other districts will also take place on Wednesday.
    … and finally.
    A full declaration of the result must be made by Friday, December 14, before the return of the writs to the Governor of Victoria on Saturday, December 15.

  7. Counting of lower house votes will be done manually and counting for upper house seats will be conducted by computer.

    Will they be scanned by computer? Will the pencil figures be dark enough?

  8. lizzie – but, but, but – “advance australia??” – the massive grassroots campaign to root out Soros and the Jewish conspirators, sorry, ‘unaustralians’.

    Aren’t there thousands upon thousands of them already?

  9. This is the second account of Lib aggression I’ve just read.


    Very aggressive Lib woman tried to force a how to vote sheet into my hand after I said no thanks. I mean seriously, do you really think that at that point, as I enter the polling station, having said no, I’m going to look at your sheet and go, OMG, I AM voting for these guys!

  10. Steady, but not all that busy, during my 2 hour stint doing Greens HTVs in Greenvale.

    I was really surprised by the large and friendly contingent of Victorian Socialists at an outer suburban booth – about as many as the ALP had. It was fun when one of the ALP reps noticed that one of the Liberal hoardings was non-complying- I think because it had a political message about “Dan’s rorts” without any explicit party branding (but it was 100% obvious it was a Liberal poster). The ALP rep, who I’ve become friendly with over the years (and who I won’t name, given that some of the ALP jihadis here would want to hunt him down and excommunicate him for being friendly with anyone representing another party ) took a photo and went into the booth and hat a chat with the RO. The RO burst out of the booth a couple of minutes later like a whirlwind and fronted the Liberals, pointed at the sign and said “Did one of you put this up?” They looked scared – it was hilarious! One of them owned up and. the RO said: “It’s absolutely not permitted. Take it down right now! I’ll be making a report about this.” All in the midst of milling and entertained electors. And the Liberal Guy very sheepishly had to take it down. The rest of us – Socialists, Laborites and I – were having a ball and trying not to make our schadenfreude too obvious.

  11. A funny thing happened in the line to vote.

    One fella started berating the Labor HTV-hander-outerer about Bob Hawke.

    For about 5 mins the bloke harangued the Labor HTV-hander-outerer about how he’d always voted Labor until Hawke betrayed him (the voter).

    The Labor HTV-hander-outerer was very good, and placated this guy for quite a while until another voted piped up about excellent Labor leaders.

    Paul Keating, for instance, got a good rap.

    But this guy wouldn’t be stilled.

    That is, until I got a look at him.

    Fair dinkum, to coin a phrase, this bloke looked exactly like a younger version of the Silver Bodgie himself.

    And I said so. Well, I said, I know why you don’t like Hawkie, you see him in the mirror every day.

    Everyone laughed. But if looks could kill, I’d be a dead woman walking.

    The conversation then turned to dead Labor leaders, and then, who was the oldest PM still alive.

    Some said, well Fraser’s gone, Whitlam’s kicked the bucket, . . .

    I said: But we’ve still got Howard.

    There was a collective groan. Well, more like an “Uuugggghhhh!”

    I love Motown.

  12. To think this time four years ago I was handing out HTVs for Josh Bull in Sunbury before heading down to Moonee Ponds for a fabulous Greek dinner.

    The octopus was divine, as I watched the Napthine concession speech.

  13. “I’ve had my democracy sausage and eaten it too.”

    ooo errr AM……………theres a Carry On movie in that!! 🙂

    Or a ScoMo add?? 🙁

  14. On election day, smiling Matthew Guy feels the love (and loathing) at his old primary school
    By Tom Cowie
    The Age
    24 November 2018 — 3:51pm

    Sometimes you can almost see the burden being lifted from someone’s shoulders.

    At Sherbourne Primary School in Briar Hill near Eltham in the city’s north-east, Opposition Leader Matthew Guy was smiling.

    It wasn’t a forced smile either, one of thousands he’s put on over the past month for the cameras and the voters and even perhaps for himself, as the polls showed his campaign was making little dent in the Andrews machine.
    Hold the onions: Matthew Guy has a democracy sausage on Saturday after voting earlier in the week.

    There was a playful enthusiasm about Guy early on Saturday morning that was far from the tough-on-crime persona that has been the main character in the Liberals’ election narrative.

    He seemed like someone who has just finished their year 12 exams and knows that the results aren’t looking good but that won’t stop them enjoying schoolies.

    Or that they are about to exceed everyone’s expectations and become dux of the class.

    A constant drizzle kept away all but the keenest of suffrage exercisers during Guy’s visit, while the rest enjoyed a late sleep-in, perhaps hoping that the barbecues would have fired up by the time they rose to perform their civic duty.

    His eyes lit up as he walked around his old primary school, the one he first attended in 1979, just around the corner from the suburb of Montmorency where he grew up.

    There was the hill he rode up to go to school, over there the pen that held Super Chook, the school’s pet chicken who unfortunately died far too young.

    Then he talked about the pool the Labor government built here after the 1982 election, describing it as “classic pork barreling”. He would not have been much older than eight at the time, only a small Guy but already a Liberal leader in waiting.

    Like more than 1.5 million Victorians, Guy had voted early ahead of election day, robbing the assembled cameras of their traditional pic op. But his parents Vera and Chris were there to vote for their son’s childhood friend Nick McGowan in the seat of Eltham.
    Matthew Guy with his mother, Vera.

    “As a mother of course I think he’s going to win,” Vera said. “He’s worked very hard.”

    It wasn’t all friendly faces for Guy. This was a Labor seat and that brought the inevitable hostile voters who couldn’t resist throwing a few barbs his way about lobsters .

    One dressed in blue, a smart colour choice for an interloper, managed to get in close and shake the potential premier’s hand before saying through a smile: “you haven’t got a hope in hell”.

    Even that little moment didn’t seem to spoil Guy’s mood, who replied calmly that he believed her assessment was wrong before moving over to the barbecue to buy a round of sausages (hold the onions) for anyone who was hungry.

    When the parents turning the tubes of meat asked what he would promise them, Guy responded to laughter: “Another pool!”

    He had slept soundly that morning until 4.45am, he said, when his son Sam rushed in and told him he had woken from a bad dream. Was it that you had won the election? “Yeah, because then he thinks I won’t be home,” Guy said.

    After the early wake-up, it was on to the first appearance of many handing out how-to-vote cards in his own neighbouring seat of Bulleen at Templestowe Park.

    He was still confident of victory and that the opinion polls favouring Labor would be proven wrong, as the voters rewarded his party’s “quiet on-the-ground campaigning”.

    “We’ve done a lot of that, more than we ever have before, much more than our opponents and we hope that it bears fruit tonight,” he said.

    The party would hold on to Ripon, he hoped, as well as making gains against Labor in Eltham and the swag of seats in the south-east of Melbourne. Prahran, he said, was impossible to call as a three-way contest.

    Finally, he declined to say whether he would continue as Liberal leader should the party lose the election.

    “I’ll make any of those decisions after the election. I hope to win, I want to win, I think I can win, I’m sure I can win,” he said, channelling the Little Engine That Could.

    Then he jumped into a car, smile still on his face, for more last-minute campaigning.

  15. Greensborough Growler @ #114 Saturday, November 24th, 2018 – 2:43 pm

    The Australian is reporting that exit polls in Liberal heartland are showing that Turnbull’s sacking has not gone down well and that Labor are the benefiting.

    How do they tie it to Turnbull’s sacking?

  16. “gip and I take it out on the unlucky denizens of PB. ”

    LadyFurher of daS PB GroupenSpanken Ya!! 🙂

    Hmmm…your not devolving into a Lib are you??? 🙁

  17. Late Riser @ #122 Saturday, November 24th, 2018 – 4:14 pm

    Greensborough Growler @ #114 Saturday, November 24th, 2018 – 2:43 pm

    The Australian is reporting that exit polls in Liberal heartland are showing that Turnbull’s sacking has not gone down well and that Labor are the benefiting.

    How do they tie it to Turnbull’s sacking?

    They are saying that Turnbull’s sacking is a prime reason they did not vote Liberal at this State Election.

  18. @lhilakari

    BUSTED: Unable to staff all of their booths, the Liberal Party are dropping young people off in busses and paying them $20p.h. cash. That’s below the minimum wage. No wonder they don’t want wage theft laws #vicvotes #springst

    I wonder how the Libs get around the legal requirements (or don’t they even bother?)

    Are these young people employees or independent contractors. If the latter, do they have an ABN, carry public liability insurance and are registered for GST? If the former, is there a written employment contract between each one and their employer specifying rates of pay and employment conditions?

  19. lizzie says:
    Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    BUSTED: Unable to staff all of their booths, the Liberal Party are dropping young people off in busses and paying them $20p.h. cash. That’s below the minimum wage. No wonder they don’t want wage theft laws #vicvotes #springst


    The Liberals have to pay people to hand out HTVs. This is everything you need to know about the Liberals. The small, rich group of people Libs represent would never volunteer their time, so instead they pay people peanuts to pretend to be Liberal supporters. The end.

    Reminds me of an amusing episode at a Qld state election a few years ago. A friend was the ALP booth captain at a suburban booth. The libs were paying back packers to hand out HTVs. A young man with an European accent approached my friend and said he had been hired to work and what should he do. My friend pointed him to the Lib sign on point and told him to sign on and then come back. The young man handed out ALP HTVs for several hours and then signed off and left.

  20. 30 minutes ago Walked past the South Yarra Library Polling Centre, Greens leader was there handing out pamphlets, Sam Hibbins by her side, the opposite to her he looked flustered while his leader beamed at us, Hibbins overheard asking one of his aides are you counting the amount of pamphlets people are collecting from Labour, sounded very flustered and irritable, hopefully a good sign, but then again that Polling Centre bar the commission flats off Chapel street should be a deep shade of blue…

  21. One of the reasons we don’t have electronic voting in Australia is because it takes us two weeks to certify close results. If we have to wait a fortnight for a ballot to come in, there’s absolutely no rush for the rest of the ballots. Antony Green’s computer does a good enough job on election night under the circumstance. Then you have to factor in that it’s one event in every three or four years (since the state elections and federal elections are run separately) so it would be slow to pay off the investment. Take for instance the case of Senate voting. The ballots are scanned to determine the voter’s opinion. And then the data sits around looking pretty for a while, till someone pushes a button and we finally discover who got in. But the waiting is still a significant part of the process.

    By contrast, in America, postal votes aren’t often allowed — even absentee ballots may not exist in some places — so the last vote is already delivered when the polls closed. Moreover, they have many elections on election day, all organised by the same group (whether the county or the state). And they have elections sometimes every year. So you get to pay it off much quicker.

    America has given evoting a bad rep, but remember that any voting system they use would get a bad rep. Democracy is barely tolerated there, to the point that a significant minority of Americans outright deny they live in a democracy.

    I’m not sure how I feel about Antony Green’s suggestion that postal voting will be dead and replaced with limited online voting. I suppose you apply for a ballot, the same as now, they send out a token, and then you can use this to access the system. It’s probably not less safe than the current system (if you break in, we’ll see there’s many more votes than tokens) and it may even be a little better.

    I don’t think it’ll be easy to convince everyone to rock up to a polling station if their grandmother has to vote using someone else’s tablet. “Why can my grandmother, who only uses computers when forced, get to vote online, and I have to use a paper and pencil?” Perhaps if we can wait another decade before we start to build the system, the elderly postal voters will all be computer users anyway by the time it’s ready.

    As to why online banking is more trustworthy than online voting. A bank should spend $x on security, where x is one less than the amount they would lose if they had bad security. Since banks have a lot of money and can be hacked every day, that’s a big number. Whereas an electoral commission would spend $y, where y is the amount of money a politician feels comfortable spending during an austerity crisis.

    And if we really wanted e-voting, I think the Commonwealth and states and territories who have roughly similar voting systems should make them that much more similar, and use a single system. Having two sets of a machines that are rolled our respectively every three and four years would be dumb. I think the current system works well enough though, so I’m not actually advocating it.

  22. lizzie @ #113 Saturday, November 24th, 2018 – 3:43 pm

    This is the second account of Lib aggression I’ve just read.


    Very aggressive Lib woman tried to force a how to vote sheet into my hand after I said no thanks. I mean seriously, do you really think that at that point, as I enter the polling station, having said no, I’m going to look at your sheet and go, OMG, I AM voting for these guys!

    They are coached to behave this way, ie aggressively, and get in your face. They do it here in NSW as well. They honestly believe that there are undecided voters that will break their way if they do it.

    I. Don’t. Think. So. 🙂

  23. Hi there, Lizzie

    Cheers back to you.

    Good to see and hear from you.

    I’m feeling good, how about you?

    How’s your garden going? What with the balance between impetuous native animals and flora, and your best friends?

    From what I’ve read, you’ve done a remarkable job with your garden. And your man is not forgotten.

  24. kezza2,
    My son was born with a congenital abnormality called Beckwith-Wiedemann Syndrome. You can look up the fine details but basically it’s a Growth Hormone abnormality which means that his body is asymmetrical, he has physical development abnormalities which need to be corrected with surgery, up until puberty he was prone to the development of fast-metastasising Karposi’s Sarcoma of the Kidney, and also other strange occurrences which pop up unexpectedly, such as we are having to deal with now. Plus, he has Haemophilia. 🙂

  25. latest betting odds on key seats. Looks like Northcote and Brunswick have firmed up for the Greens.
    However ALP are now odds on for Prahran 1.80 Beteasy 1.90 Sportsbet Ripon now as short as 1.40 South Barwon 1.40 with both firms. Bass odds on ALP, and now ALP fav in Morwell with Northe the outsider of the three . I feel bar Prahran we might see more ALP gains against the Libs ; Greens might end up with 3 . The toxic feeling of ScoMo with Dutton looming behind him will benefit the ALP more than the Greens mismanagement.. predictions Labour 48 Seats min. Lastly Caulfield the Libs have reported by Australian could get close…

  26. I hearing that the Libs haven’t given up hope yet. On the ground reports from Prahran and Carrum have them buoyed.
    I expect a comfortable Andrews win, without loss of a single seat – based on published polls and media coverage.
    Anthony will either call it by 8.30 or it won’t be known for a couple of days for certain. But I will be watching the ABC for the early call.

  27. kezza2

    Very funny story.

    I’ll see your Hawke and raise you a Curtin and Chifley (I kid you not)

    Last year some time near the banks in Mitcham I got into a ‘conversation’ with this guy who had a stand and was handing out leaflets I think – but he was banging on about Curtin and Chifley!!!

    I was so taken aback, and trying to defend these two fine PMs, that I actually cannot remember what he was on about. Maybe it was something to do with banks – but it was almost surreal to be so fired up about people who have been dead for about 70 years!

  28. Donski that South Yarra Library polling place was actually about 50-5o Greens v Lib in the 2016 federal election.

    Make of this what you will because obvious state vs federal is never a great comparison, but look at the difference between the Liberal primary votes at South Yarra polling booths in 2014 Prahran vs 2016 Higgins:

    Hawksburn (South Yarra Library) – 51% in 2014 (55% Lib 2CP); 45% in 2016 (50-50 2CP)
    Fawkner Park – 49% in 2014 (53% Lib 2CP); 44% in 2016 (52% Greens 2CP)
    Hawsburn Central – 43% in 2014 (51% Greens 2CP); 39% in 2016 (55% Greens 2CP)
    South Yarra* – 52% in 2014 (56% Lib 2CP); 39% in 2016 (56% Greens 2CP)

    * I think the booth named “South Yarra” was in a different location for both.

    Still though those numbers show a massive swing throughout South Yarra in 2 years. Overall, every South Yarra booth except Hawksburn (at 50-50) turned Green in 2016, and that was with Turnbull as the party leader!

    Can’t really see them improving on that with Matthew Guy as leader and the recent dumping of Turnbull by the feds!

  29. Hi kezza

    As the deer appear to have retreated to the hills for the summer, I’m game to plant things again. Today the trees are all weighed down with rain, but I don’t care as they needed it.

    I’ve managed to find a wonderful gardener who comes every week and does all the things I can no longer manage, and I think he takes as much pleasure in the garden as I do. I’m nearly at the stage of finding it hard to cope on my own, but will hang on as long as I can. My greatest fear is being forced into “care” as I’m not really a sociable person, except in short bursts! 🙁

    I’m hanging out for the election results. Just couldn’t bear it if Guy’s guys win!

  30. The Guardian live blog for the Victorian election is up.
    3m ago
    Most observers believe the election will be won and lost in what they call the ‘sandbelt’, four bayside marginal seats in Melbourne’s southeast.

    One of those seats is Carrum, where Daniel Andrews has been campaigning, the Australian Associated Press reports.

    As promised, Daniel Andrews is campaigning right up to the close of polls in the Victorian election, including a visit to one of the state’s most marginal seats in the closing hours.

    After casting his vote on Saturday morning, the Labor premier headed to Carrum to help incumbent Sonya Kilkenny, who holds the seat by just 0.7 per cent.

  31. The Greens have completely imploded in the last week and a half. Dominic Phillips stood down over rape allegations, Angus McAlpines past history of sexism, combined with large scale criticism of the toxic culture of bullying and sexism within the party. I get that a lot of this is emerging from their political opponents for their own political gain, but it doesn’t necessarilly make it slander. Went ahead and gave Reason my second preference instead.

  32. Blanket Criticism,
    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Labor, or anyone else couldn’t have made the accusations against The Greens unless there was some truth in it.

  33. Bludgers,

    This is a bit off-topic, but I thought you would be interested.

    It seems that Tony Abbott has gone full anti-semite.

    Hyperbole? Witness his criticism against…

    “Rootless, cosmopolitan intellectuals parading their moral superiority, or masters of high finance”

    Whilst “masters of high finance” might just ring warning bells, the “rootless cosmopolitan” is a pretty clear statement.

    It was the slur used by the Soviet anti-Jewish campaign of the 1950s.

  34. turned on Channel 9 by accident and Tony Jones commentating on a Victoria election which is laugable, unless his wife has given him a cheat sheet ! coupled with Alicia Gowrie hosting it and Neil Mitchell on the same panel ; poor Chris Uhlmann must be thinking he could have been at the ABC tonight…

  35. C@t

    The fusion of DNA is a wondrous thing; but sometimes it goes awry. And manifests itself in different ways.

    My brother’s sister-in-law gave birth in 1983 to a son, however she suffered pre-eclampsia and it was said initially he had cerebral palsy. It was later determined that, despite any intervention, he had an incurable liver disease, because of the union of the rna of the parents. They were advised not to have other children.

    He died at 8 years of age; not much bigger than a two-year-old. He was lovely, could seemingly understand us, but had no speech. Just awful (in terms of trying to make his brothers, sisters, cousins, understand).

    They’re still together.

    A friend had twins, and the one surviving twin was diagnosed with the rare Rasmussens at age 3. Perfect till then. Now, at age 18, thankfully, having a relatively good life because of the help of NDIS.

    They’re still together, too.

    It’s heart-breaking, from the outside, to see what some parents go through. But just like you, they deal with it. It doesn’t seem fair, and I don’t accept the BS that you’re given this journey through life because of the strength of your convictions.

    All power to your hand, C@t. What a loving mother. What more could a kid need.

  36. Peter Fuller says:
    Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    I understand that the Andrews Government has demonstrated its impeccable reform credentials by banning bunting.

    Its time that bunting was banned in all states. As someone who has done many booth setups I find it a pain to put up, needs constant maintenance during the day, looks very tatty by the end of the day and is totally useless in winning votes. Many other people from all parties who have any experience with it agree with me.

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