The latest Newspoll is absolutely unchanged on the post-budget result from a fortnight ago, with primary votes of Coalition 36%, Labor 36%, Greens 10% and One Nation 9%, and Labor leading 53-47 on two-party preferred. Nonetheless, Malcolm Turnbull’s approval rating is up for the third survey in a row, this time by two points to 35%, although he’s also up a point on disapproval to 54%. Bill Shorten is up one on approval to 33% and down one on disapproval to 53%, while Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is all but unchanged at 45-33, compared with 44-31 last time. As always, the poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday by The Australian from a sample of around 1700.
UPDATE: Here’s the BludgerTrack update I should have run a couple of days ago:
(Catching up on last night in the previous thread.)
J R
I think I can see the answer right there… if the argument is in fairness Labor wins
Re the Tingle thing, a few weeks ago on Insiders she did say, perhaps in a moment of lucidity or big picture thinking, that whoever addresses inequality will win. I posted on it at the time.
The way I hear her is that she is saying:
* Turnbull is politically correct in trying to annul Labor’s winning positions on education and medicare, pulling hard back from Abbott’s RWNJ shift right
* Labor needs not to deny that they are their policies, or Labor-lite, but claim full credit for them, and then
* campaign that they, Labor, are the only ones who can and will do it properly and fairly**.
That’s what I heard her say yesterday, but maybe it’s all in the ear of the belistener.
** The NBN cockup is as good an example as any for any dumbfk to understand what the ‘we will do it better, faster, cheaper argument’ amounts to – a huge con.
Cat
Of course a better Australian example if Rudd with the apology. That symbolism counted and has resulted in the Uluru statement as Recognition substance grew out of space of symbolism the apology created
Guytaur,
Macron not exactly from the pure ideology camp.
That is the point with Macron. He has said so, himself. He is not about ‘Right’ or ‘Left’, he thinks those concepts are redundant and get in the way of good policy-making.
He also gets this much:
So his meeting with Putin this week should be an interesting one to watch. Especially the handshake. 🙂
Guytaur,
Of course a better Australian example if Rudd with the apology. That symbolism counted and has resulted in the Uluru statement as Recognition substance grew out of space of symbolism the apology created.
Even Dutton belatedly realised that. He was not there, pointedly, for the Apology, but now says he regrets that because he has seen how much it’s symbolism changed the on-the-ground reality for Indigenous Australians.
Which you could say is simply Dutton doing more Liberal leadership positioning, but at least he said it.
AuSenate: Week 2 of budget #estimates starts today. Live broadcast as well as replays of last week’s hearings available here: bit.ly/LiveParl
https://twitter.com/ausenate/status/868957556139376640
Senate estimates are on again this week, included in Health, perfectly timed.
From Crikey’s early bird:
‘Senate estimates continues this week, with Health, Treasury, Employment and Defence mandarins in the hot seat. Will anyone ask Health bureaucrats about the possibility of scrapping the private health insurance rebate (outlined above)?’
Snap Guytar.
Cat
Yes. The LNP just love denying equality to people. The latest example from Joyce.
abcnews: Live blog: Barnaby Joyce says Uluru statement could be a ‘self-defeating proposition’ #auspol, follow live here: ab.co/2qt8MZg pic.twitter.com/adR37gJfxs
https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/868957777841897473
Good one:
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/at_a_time_of_intense_global_division_a_danish_ad_reminds_us_20170528
There seems to be a big hoo-ha for a 1 point gain in Mal’s net approval:
“Nonetheless, Malcolm Turnbull’s approval rating is up for the third survey in a row, this time by two points to 35%, although he’s also up a point on disapproval to 54%.”
However, a 1 point net drop for Mal is all but unchanged in preferred PM:
“Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is all but unchanged at 45-33, compared with 44-31 last time”
Almost Shanahanesque.
TheKennyDevine: BREAKING: Media enters third day of concerted effort to convince Australians that Australians are fascinated by Schapelle Corby.
I have studiously avoided the Schapelle Corby circus. Life’s too short.
Cat
I would say tell me about it but theres been too much of that already
It looks like Murdoch’s paywall is about 10cm high these days. A sample of articles that I checked are easily accessible over the paywall. Perhaps he is feeling the pressure from the increasing number of alternative news sources, leading to this plaintive plea in the Oz (also accessible over the paywall):
Again the good Sen puts nail on the head of the issue. Its why LNP attacking ATSIC was appalling.
All that needed was reform. An ATSIC version of an ICAC.
senthorun: Providing space for Indigenous Peoples to have say over their lives should not be “controversial.” It’s quite basic. theguardian.com/australia-news…
https://twitter.com/senthorun/status/868961379805388801
Sohar – giggle.
The leaked health policy ideas all come down to one thing – commonwealth funding of hospitals to be reduced from 40 to 35 percent. Obviously aimed at forcing State governments to impose user charges. What’s being proposed is the end of free public hospitals.
Citizen – yup, hoover up money from the dopes who will pay for it and let the rest climb over the paywall and take whatever they want (to improve clicks). You’ve got to laugh.
To try a get a grip on what’s happening in America, and in response to yesterday’s brief foray into whether the voters should suffer at their own hands for Trumpism, I’ve started reading Hillbilly Elegy.
“This is the real story of my life, and that is why I wrote it. I want people to know what it feels like to nearly give up on yourself and why you might do it. I want people to understand what happens in the loves of the poor and the psychological impact that spiritual and material poverty has on their children. I want people to understand the American Dream as my family and I encountered it. And I want people to understand something I learned only recently: that for those of us lucky enough to live the American Dream, the demons of the life we left behind continue to chase us.”
Rivetting, painful reading. Julius Sumner Miller stuff – Why Is It So.
loves – lives
SkyNewsAust: . @JoshFrydenberg says the government is not going down the path of an Emissions Intensity scheme pic.twitter.com/9BZvDREGgQ
https://twitter.com/skynewsaust/status/868961789186199552
SkyNewsAust: . @ALeighMP says @TurnbullMalcolm is ‘still captive to the far right of his party’ on an Emissions Intensity Scheme pic.twitter.com/W43pivjKGm
https://twitter.com/skynewsaust/status/868962931064487936
Malcolm is in trouble with the IPA. This can only end badly for him.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bank-levy-amounts-to-quasi-nationalisation-of-the-major-banks-think-tank-20170528-gwess5.html
guytaur @ #60 Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:38 am
I only fascinated by the media’s fascination.
It was a ‘save the furniture’ budget, they still have a long way to carry it though.
andrewtillett: Extra 30 troops for Afghanistan @MarisePayne has just told Estimates after requests from NATO, US #auspol
Cassidy last Friday – would he still write the same stuff after seeing today’s Newspoll results?
Only 17 Newspolls to go?
CastanCentre: You can watch the current Manus Island class action court proceedings live. Transparency is important. ow.ly/lcb330c73Jx
https://twitter.com/castancentre/status/868968894429638656
Ruling out a royalties holiday was a good decision and refusing to administer any potential NAIF money for Adani are good and principled decisions. No doubt the Liberals will try to spin this negatively, so best of luck in the PR battle.
If royalties payments are delayed, do not make it too big of a delay. The mine and company will not survive much longer, make sure they’ve paid back in full before they collapse.
Not all the media shares the fascination with Corby. On a commercial radio new broadcast this morning the reader, talking about the NSW League team, said they were moving into a circus as the were going to stay at the Sofitel “where it was surrounded by more reporters than people interested in the story.”
Turnbull
Someone else alluded to this yesterday: the Constitution was written at a time when Aborigines were not counted as citizens, and their history and culture ignored. Therefore Turnbull’s statement is effectively a denial of fairness and a support for racism. Perhaps he didn’t realise exactly what he was saying???
“Adrian,
Anything on AM wrt Newspoll?”
I doubt it, but I decided to have a stress free morning commute by listening to Roy and HG’s Sporting Probe podcast.
One of the topics was sports minister Hunt, whose name they pronounced in a way impossible to duplicate in writing, and called the intellectual powerhouse of the government.
The Adani mine also got a well deserved serve.
Corby is being called “Australia’s most famous drug smuggler”.
Not much of one. It was only cannabis.
No because that would imply that anyone not in favour of abolishing the constitution altogether was racist. There’s a lot to support in the Australian constitution, racist attitudes of the times notwithstanding
Oh to be a fly on the wall in the Coalition Party Room meeting this week. 🙂
Adrian,
Thanks for the update. Sounds like Roy and HG are doing a version of ‘Greg the Lying Hunt’. 😉
Gee, time flies.
20 years since his death, one of my favourite singers of my adulthood.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-29/jeff-buckley-still-resonates-20-years-after-death/8565262
Good work Barnaby. I think the Beaconsfield mine disaster was a watershed moment in the public awareness of Shorten’s essential humanity. Anything and anyone who raises it to contrast with their own self-serving interests does so at their own peril.
From the Guardian:
Poor choice of words this morning from Barnaby Joyce. He accusing Bill Shorten of deserting the working man over the Adani project, having stood beside them at the Beaconsfield mine disaster.
Quote the hayseed:
“I remember Mr Shorten, didn’t he stand outside a gold mine down in Tasmania, telling us all about how he, you know, he put on the hi-vis shirt and the bomber jacket, told us all how he was with the working man. Well he is not with them now. He has left them for dead”.
Todd Russell, 34, and Brant Webb, 37, were trapped in a safety cage in the mine in the Beaconsfield after a 2.1 magnitude earthquake caused a collapse of underground rocks and killed their colleague, 44-year-old Larry Knight on April 25, 2006.
lizzie @ #80 Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:36 am
Yes, so true Lizzie,
I’ve made a similar point on Marriage Equality.
When then the Marriage Act was written, many homosexual acts were illegal, so the writers would not have even considered it as an option, now this is no longer the case.
It is not surprising that the polls haven’t moved in favour of the coalition.
What did they do in the last budget that would materially improve things for the general populace?
Tomorrow is Memorial Day in the USA. I am expecting after this day to be honoured, that the Trump imbroglio gets into another gear. How much longer are they going to allow this traitor and his cronies to wreck the joint?
Seriously, until this mob is removed from the Whitehouse, Australia should hold off making any commitments with them. They cannot be trusted
The full Uluru statement as posted on the Guardian blog.
guytaur @ #74 Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:16 am
…and Bill Shorten will cravenly fall in line with the warmongers to avoid a debate on defence.
C@Tmomma, if you are a Roy and HG fan, you’ll be pleased to know that they are still as sharp as ever.
Can’t understand why they don’t have their own TV show any more.
Well, perhaps I can.
“…and Bill Shorten will cravenly fall in line with the warmongers to avoid a debate on defence.”
Which is pretty smart, all things considered.
Turnbull stands for entrenched power, wealth and privilege. No wonder he is wary about any change to the Constitution that might disturb that in any real (as distinct from merely symbolic) way.
His true allegiances become more evident with every real challenge he faces.
Naff off, Rex Douglas! I’d say something worse to you but I am minding my words.
Does the Liberal Party really think this tactic of besmirching the leader of the Labor Party on social media is going to work for them!?!
Or are you one of those idiotic Lunar Left supporters whose ‘logical’, and I use that word advisedly, position on troops in Afghanistan sees them supporting the resurgence of the Taliban and all that implies? Yes, there are Australian troops over there but they are maintaining an uneasy and fragile truce that is enabling a fairer society for all. Which is what I thought the Left at it’s outer margins were all about? Apparently not, if unthinking dipsticks like you are any indication of their collective consciousness.
Not one word from you either about the 13th Newspoll in a row showing the Labor Party, led by Bill Shorten, maintaining their supremacy over the Coalition.
If you truly are from the Left, and not a RW troll, then you are simply a viper in that nest providing absolutely no support or solidarity at all for that which you profess to stand for.
His true allegiances become more evident with every real challenge he faces.
And for Turnbull to use as his excuse to do nothing about an Indigenous Treaty and Voice that ‘Australia is innately a conservative country’ is just absolute garbage. We are one of the most progressive countries on the planet. Or were, until Howard got his grubby mitts on it, followed by Abbott. And now, Turnbull.
Adrian,
HG lives in the suburb next to mine!
Actually, Roy and HG should replace Clarke and Dawe, don’t you think? 🙂
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/environmental-effects-of-transurbans-55-billion-tollway-through-west-revealed-20170528-gwf592.html