Today’s Sunday Tasmanian has results from ReachTEL polling of each of the five lower house seats in Tasmania, from a combined sample of 3019. The report says the poll credits the Liberals with 51-49 leads in Bass and Lyons, independent Andrew Wilkie with an increased majority in Denison, Labor member Julie Collins with a lead of 54-46 in Franklin, and Liberal member Brett Whiteley with a primary vote lead of 42.7% to 32.6% in Braddon, suggesting little change on his 2.6% winning two-party margin in 2013. The Jacqui Lambie Network would find “solid support” in the northern electorates, particularly her home base of Braddon, but has just 2.7% support in Denison and 2.5% in Franklin (this being before exclusion of around 7.5% undecided). I will be able to go into greater depth on these results tomorrow, but will be beaten to it by Kevin Bonham, who promises to publish a comprehensive overview at 8.30am.
In other partly reported poll news, Brisbane’s Sunday Mail has a tranche of state results from that Galaxy poll that provided federal results yesterday, but none of the voting intention numbers are provided in the online report. The report does relate that Tim Nicholls’ coup against Lawrence Springborg the Friday before last had 42% approval and 27% disapproval, and that Annastacia Palaszczuk leads Nicholls as preferred premier by 44% to 29%. Much is made of the fact that this isn’t as good for Palaszczuk as the 54-26 she happened to record against Lawrence Springborg in November. There will be voting intention eventually, I promise.
UPDATE: Kevin Bonham details the full results from the ReachTEL poll. The published respondent-allocated results have the Liberals leading 51-49 in Bass (54.0-46.0 at the 2013 election), 53-47 in Braddon (52.6-47.4) and 51-49 in Lyons (51.2-48.8), with Labor ahead 54-46 in Franklin (55.1-44.9). Each of these results is better for Labor than a 2013 election allocation would have been, particularly in Franklin (where Labor’s lead would have been 52.4-47.6) and Lyons (where the Liberals would have led 54.1-45.9). In Denison, Andrew Wilkie records 33.2% of the primary vote, down from 38.1% at the election, with Labor up from 24.8% to 27.3%. However, ReachTEL has published a Wilkie-versus-Liberal two-party result rather than Wilkie-versus-Labor, of 66-34, even though it was Labor who finished second last time, and would do so again on these numbers. The Jacqui Lambie Network’s average across the five seats is 5.3%.
The Greens position of keeping penalty rates is well known.
Adam Bandt, 2012: http://adam-bandt.greensmps.org.au/content/media-releases/greens-reject-penalty-rate-push
pegasus @ #1236 Monday, May 16, 2016 at 5:00 pm
In other words, it’s becoming clear to the New Groupers that their scurrilous tactics will only further alienate Labor decision-makers, Labor voters and their own disheartened supporters, all of whom can see Split Politics for what it is – a gambit to obstruct a Labor win.
Oh, Jesus, newsflash: Pegasus is only concentrating on the Greens campaign. It’s over I tell you, it’s over.
Crikey, Bernard Keane.
AS markjs pointed out, Greens Senator Whish-Wilson said that penalty rates are “outdated” – I presume you will condemn him for that position?
whoops, my above post was directed Pegasus.
Why would Whish Wilson want to legislate to enforce outdated penalties?
Those Greens!
25/08/2013: http://greens.org.au/greens-will-defend-penalty-rates
Greens small business spokesperson, Peter Whish-Wilson, said he supported existing Greens policy in defence of penalty rates.
“The Greens and I support the current arrangements and will vote to defend them,” said Senator Whish-Wilson.
“There are a range of ways the pressure can be taken off small business without changes to rights and protections of workers – any other interpretation of my recent public comments is wrong.
“The Greens recognise we should be supporting small business owners, which is why our plan lowers tax rates by 2%, expands tax breaks, and provides extra funding and legislative powers for the national Small Business Commissioner,” he concluded.
This is what the greens really think.
GREENS senator Peter Whish-Wilson believes his party can double its vote by courting small business and has backed a “bigger national discussion” about weekend penalty rates, suggesting they are outdated.
The winery owner, who is fighting to retain in his own right the Senate spot vacated by former Greens leader Bob Brown, said penalty rates were part of a “white Anglo-Saxon cultural” inheritance no longer relevant for many workers.
“No one seems to want to take on the issues of industrial relations — Tony Abbott, I was quite surprised in the national debate, put on record that they are not going to go near penalty rates if they are elected,” Senator Whish-Wilson said.
“Labor has said they are not going to. I think picking apart workers’ rights is a real slippery slope, and there’s been a lot of work that has gone into giving them these rights.
“But I think we need a bigger discussion nationally about weekends versus weekdays. I think it’s just a white Anglo-Saxon cultural thing that we’ve inherited. Society is different now.
Lizzie
Lizzie I came to the same conclusion as Bernard Keane late last week. This morning attack on Labor by the Greens just confirmed that this is the game they are playing.
Science funding will all but disappear.
I disagree with Keane’s analysis. I would think that the Greens advertising that a vote for them means a possible second election would encourage lefty types to vote Labor to avoid one.
Yes, The Greens should be asked to show us their submissions to the Fair Work Commission.
Just got polled by an actual human being from Galaxy – Griffith electorate Queensland. Vote this election, last election, view of local candidates, likelihood of changing mind, most important issue. Interesting to see if it turns up in the public domain.
zoomster
Why would there be a second election? I don’t seem to have received the memo 😉
Z
‘If Manus/Nauru are concentration camps, then so are the camps run throughout the world by the UNHCR (which we are regularly told by posters here are so bad they justify people risking their lives in leaky boats rather than going to them).’
IMO, there are significant differences between UNHCR and Australian refugee camps.
UNHCR camps actually focus on helping the inmates.
Whereas there can be no doubt at all that the Duttonistas focus on bastardising the Aussie concentration camp inmates.
I didn’t “interpret” Peter Wish-Wilson’s recent comments on penalty rates ..I think “out-dated” (his words) speaks for itself..
zoomster @ #1261 Monday, May 16, 2016 at 5:24 pm
It may encourage some to vote Labor and others of a more centrist persuasion to vote LNP. The New Groupers are running high-risk politics. They have very little choice, I suppose. They are going to lose Senators and the B-o-P. The last thing they would want to see is a successful Labor Government and they have obviously chosen to work to prevent one coming into existence.
Whish Wilson:
The winery owner, who is fighting to retain in his own right the Senate spot vacated by former Greens leader Bob Brown, said penalty rates were part of a “white Anglo-Saxon cultural” inheritance no longer relevant for many workers.
OTOH, Dirty Dick Di Natale: Wants to legislate penalty rates.
Bwahahahaha.
And at the end of the day, what have The Greens got to show for all their self-congratulatory ‘tactical brilliance’ wrt bringing Industrial Relations and Sunday Penalty Rates into the forefront of the election campaign today?
Bupkis.
Or as Matt Doran on ABC24 said just now as he was doing the daily wrap of the election campaign:
“At the end of the day The Greens are left on their own.”
Holding the gun they shot themselves in the foot with.
Sky News Australia
54m54 minutes ago
Sky News Australia @SkyNewsAust
PM @TurnbullMalcolm is on the way to Darwin after a local MP revealed a health announcement early #ausvotes http://snpy.tv/1V5AG9w
ajm @ #1263 Monday, May 16, 2016 at 5:25 pm
That sounds like private polling for one of the Major parties.
nothing short of greens being snakes in the grass.
GREENS senator Peter Whish-Wilson believes his party can double its vote by courting small business and has backed a “bigger national discussion” about weekend penalty rates, suggesting they are outdated.
The winery owner, who is fighting to retain in his own right the Senate spot vacated by former Greens leader Bob Brown, said penalty rates were part of a “white Anglo-Saxon cultural” inheritance no longer relevant for many workers.
“No one seems to want to take on the issues of industrial relations — Tony Abbott, I was quite surprised in the national debate, put on record that they are not going to go near penalty rates if they are elected,” Senator Whish-Wilson said.
“Labor has said they are not going to. I think picking apart workers’ rights is a real slippery slope, and there’s been a lot of work that has gone into giving them these rights.
“But I think we need a bigger discussion nationally about weekends versus weekdays. I think it’s just a white Anglo-Saxon cultural thing that we’ve inherited. Society is different now.
lizzie
There won’t be, of course, and the whole scenario is built on such a series of ‘ifs’ I don’t really understand why it’s chewing up so much bandwidth.
But IF neither of the majors can form government in their own right (which you think would be of more concern to the Coalition than Labor…) Shorten has said that he would not do a deal with the Greens to form government which IF the Liberals wouldn’t do a deal with the Greens might mean a second election would be needed.
The Greens are heavily advertising this. To my way of thinking, that’s like saying “Don’t vote for us, because if we end up with the balance of power, there’s going to be a second election.”
and on it goes.
He had told small business groups they need to prepare hard data to prove the case that penalty rates are a barrier to weekend trading and increased employment. “If they could go to unions with evidence . . . then that’s probably grounds for discussion with unions. But confronting them head on is just not going to work.”
He said he believed addressing the concerns of small business was a key to expanding the support base for the party he joined after being disgusted at the major parties’ fast-tracking of the Gunns pulp mill in his Tamar Valley home.
“I think the Greens have the potential to double their vote nationally by targeting small business; they really are an overlooked sector,” said Senator Whish-Wilson.
“My wife and I have run two small businesses.
Dastyari and other Labor party strategists decided a few years ago to “take the kid gloves off when it comes to the Greens”.
The Greens Party is a separate party with its own policy platform who wants Greens parliamentarians elected.
The myth the Greens party was a one-issue party is a myth happily spread by the political duopoly and the MSM. It was never and is not “just an environmental party”.
It’s understandable as more people become aware of Greens policies and vote for the Greens, the hysteria and OTT hyperbole ratchets ups a notch or three before every election.
Any challenge to the status quo of power flipping from the Coalition to Labor to the Coalition to Labor and on and on, will be fought tooth and nail by the entrenched.
The drum tonight is complete drivel.
I have discovered that SBS arabic morning TV news is vastly superior to my usual ABC24. I do not understand a single word which is better than understanding the juvenile simplistic clap trap from the ABC.
I had an agile plan to invent a TV with a built in lie detector. This would require an upgrade to detect stupidity. Now is simply resort to the off button on the remote and back to my large supply of Ebooks.
victoria @ #1270 Monday, May 16, 2016 at 5:36 pm
So it was Natasha Griggs, staunch Tony Abbott supporter, who spilled the beans on Turnbull, eh? 😀
I’m with Zoomster, I like a lot of the Greens policies but the power play has made me nervous. My first priority is changing the government. There’d be many others like me, some who may live in Grayndler, Melbourne, Higgins etc.
z,
PB would barely exist if speculation was banned!
Pegasus,
It’s understandable as more people become aware of Greens policies and vote for the Greens
ROFL. 🙂
heaven for bid the GREENS are all over the place re penalty rates.
but why should one wonder ,just like the LNP saying one thing but meaning something else.
just proving they can be lying scum like the LNP. we mean what we say but don’t say what we mean.
Pegasus,
How’s that ‘White Anglo Saxon cultural thing’ going for you? 🙂
So the Greens tactic to score media attention is to wedge Labor to the left! Labor should proudly stake the centre ground- but methinks this only works to the rights advantage because the media are generally biased to the right and happy to perpetuate old myths.
Ken McNeill
Monday, May 16, 2016 at 5:39 pm
“I had an agile plan to invent a TV with a built in lie detector. This would require an upgrade to detect stupidity.”
If you perfect the tool to detect stupidity and lies I would like to be your first shareholder. We can test it on PB then take on the world!!!…LOL
I bet you the air in the Prime Ministerial jet is turning blue right now as Malcolm Turnbull makes his way to Darwin. 😀
Lizzie,
It is just Fairfax poring Napalm on the fire of the Labor/ Green conflagration. The article this morning from Fairfax: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/election-2016-why-a-hung-parliament-and-snap-second-election-are-now-very-real-possibilities-20160515-govu55.html was originally titled “1 in 3 chance of having a second election”. I do not know who wrote the headline, but it was very dodgy statistics. The article states:
A 1 in 3 chance of a hung parliament by Sportsbet in no way translates into a 1 in 3 chance of needing a new election.
My take is that the most likely scenario, in the event of a hung parliament, is that the Governor General will decide who to ask to form government, and it will be tested on the floor of the house, as happened in Tasmania in 2010: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmanian_state_election,_2010.
From the Wikipedia article:
However, in the case of a hung parliament, independents such as Wilkie, Katter and McGowan are more likely to support the coalition, so my best guess is that in the even of a hung parliament, it is the Coalition who will be best able to form a government.
The Wikipedia article reminds me that Tasmanian Labor did not exactly cover itself in glory during the campaign, to put it mildly.
First Dog sums is up succinctly as usual:
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/03/18/tasmanian-election-update-now-with-added-robots/?wpmp_switcher=mobile
This cartoon was one of FDOTMs best (although he does a lot of those).
Pegasus
I don’t want to burst your bubble, but I was wholeheartedly behind the ‘Bob Brown environmental Greens’ (cos I’m a bit of a dreamer). Now they’re trying to position themselves as a political party with many more policies and a lot of tactics on show, I’m not so keen.
The split in the greens seem to be real with Senator Deutsche Bank making his views on penalty rates so obvious.
Ghostie just posted that 2PP had ALP up 1.5 but pulled the tweet again
#Morgan Poll Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 47.5 (-1.5) ALP 52.5 (+1.5) #ausvotes
#Morgan Poll Federal Primary Votes: L/NP 36.5 (-3.5) ALP 33 (+0.5) GRN 15.5 (+2) NXT 5 (+1) #ausvotes
The Greens don’t know which lie to go for as far as penalty rates. Dirty Dick Di Natale is leading the charge, trying to wedge the Right Wing Coalition Government… not!
Dirty Dick Di Natale is trying to shaft Shorten. Whish Wilson is trying to shaft Dirty Dick. The Fair Work Commission is waiting for a non-existent Greens submission. But these arrant shameless bastards somehow or other forgot the workers when it was submission time.
Shiftaling
I think you and I agree.
Those figures would, I believe, give the Liberals a smaller primary than Labor.
I’d say 33 apiece, Boerwar, with 3 for the Nats
“Those figures would, I believe, give the Liberals a smaller primary than Labor.”
Those figures look weird unfortunately.
Lizzie I had infinite respect for Brown as well
Good Morgan 🙂
Primary LNP 36, ALP 33, GRN 15.5
Is this the “independent body” that will determine penalty rates?
That doesn’t look like they’re going to give an impartial judgement. If they do come down on the employers side (and why wouldn’t they, given they’re all employer reps), that will pretty much destroy all the good work Bill Shorten has done to date.