The latest Ipsos poll for the Fairfax papers is another weaker result for the Coalition, whose two-party lead of 52-48 compares with 56-44 at the previous such poll in mid-November. On the primary vote, the Coalition is down four points to 44%, Labor is up three to 32% and the Greens are up two to 15%. Malcolm Turnbull takes a solid hit on his still very strong personal ratings, with approval down seven to 62% and disapproval up eight to 24%. Bill Shorten is little changed on 30% approval (up one) and 55% disapproval (down two), and his deficit on preferred prime minister has narrowed slightly, from 69-18 to 64-19. The poll was conducted Thursday to Saturday from a sample of 1403.
Fairfax-Ipsos: 52-48 to Coalition
The first Ipsos poll in three months provides more evidence of a slippage in support for Malcolm Turnbull and the Coalition government.
Probs more resignations coming from Labor – the smart ones I guess.
At least Labor still has Laurie Ferguson and Maria Vamvakinou to lead the fightback from opposition later this year.
Poor EsJ is sad.
Commiserations.
ctar it is very sad to see the demise of official opposition in WA. Sad for the country.
Nice line, ESJ, but Laurie Ferguson is also retiring.
Edwina StJohn@1903
Just passing the baton ESJ.
Thanks William missed that one. There you go even Laurie has bailed. Against the power of Mordor there is no victory.
Hey William do you have a link ready to your fine work, I found myself on a train (obviously not to Ellenbrook) at the appropriate time and could not listen to gods own 7206WF when you were on it!
WeWantPaul @ 1847
“who at worst failed to stop others committing crimes must travel to Australia to give evidence A THIRD time”
What an ignorant comment.
Pell knowingly covered for and allowed paedophilic activities. He is directly responsible for the sexual abuse of hundreds if not thousands of Australian children.
Yes, I am saying he knew absolutely that people in his charge were engaging in such activities and deliberately covered it up to protect the individuals, the church and more importantly his own career.
It will all come out eventually – unfortunately a lot of the people who could bring it more directly to light are already dead from suicide and other tribulations brought about by their suffering (including members of my family).
Having knowledge of a crime and the power to prevent it and choosing not to do so is exactly at the same level of misdeed as the crime itself. At least a paedophile might claim some mental disturbance – Pell just didn’t care about anyone else but himself and will absolutely rot in hell if such a place exists.
No doubt bemused – I am sure there is still one or two United Voice union officials ready to serve the country in a higher calling, but Perth may not be a sure thing? Brand and Freo presumably any monkey will and can do.
Thanks WWP – I guess it’s here, a bit over two hours in. I researched in anticipation of questions about who was going to win preselection, but wasn’t asked any of them.
https://radio.abc.net.au/programitem/pey3x1g4nQ?play=true
Main points I gleaned from listening to the interview between Leigh Sales and Scott Morrison:
Big economic changes made thus far by the Turnbull government:
* Innovation Statement
* Multinational Tax laws passed by the parliament (? letting us know how little multinationals pay in tax is the only one I can think of)
Then Morrison spoke about the:
*Increasing burden on wage and salary earners (code for Bracket Creep. To which I might add that at least those people have a job & aren’t exploited)
* Higher taxes (he said that a lot, as if ‘Tax’ is a dirty word when it is a necessary function of a decent society)
* Expenditure restraint (he said this a lot too. It’s code for Austerity, or a dismantling of the New Deal Post WW2 Welfare State)
* Lower expenditure, spending restraint (government cut to the bone)
* Said Innovation was a massive change to the Economy (again, and no it hasn’t been)
* States Competition policy/Productivity Payment system (this sems to be the policy arising out of the Federation White Paper that the Coalition are keeping under their hats)
* The GST increase didn’t come up as a consideration by the federal government and was only raised by the States in August last year. (I wonder why? Not that I believe Morrison. Abbott & Hockey cut Health & Education in the 2014 Budget with the specific aim of bringing in a higher rate of the GST!)
* Bracket Creep = An ‘Inflation Tax’ was a key meme
Also it is important to point out that $80 Billion in Savings measures, which Morrison keeps rabbiting on about, means Schools and Hospitals miss out to fund Coalition spending predilections.
Finally,
* Only through restrained expenditure are we able to deliver a low tax outcome into the future. That is a clear priority.
Who said that’s what we want!?!
Has essentials 16/2 poll been noticed or is it last weeks with a different date?
[ Against the power of Mordor there is no victory. ]
Stick it up your Ring, Eddie.
c@tmomma
Appreciate the feedback on the Morrison/Sales interview. I had enough of him at the NPC today. Couldnt bear hearing more from him
[Has essentials 16/2 poll been noticed or is it last weeks with a different date?]
Oh yeah, that old thing. I guess I’ll write it up as part of my BludgerTrack update post this evening.
Well Gary Gray obviously thinks so highly of Shorten he didn’t even try to pretend that Labor could win.
Did it make you angry again Victoria?
I watched the Morrison interview. His main points were “Labor Tax & Spend” and “we saved $80 billion”. It was quite bad, he is very hopeless, I laughed a lot, but he probably thought he did OK. Sales asked some good questions.
He started his answer on the GST being ruled out by saying the Australian people wanted an adult conversation where nothing was ruled out. He then explained an adult conversation is the government saying any old thing, then figuring out for itself how silly it is, then explaining to the rest of us how silly it is, and then dropping it.
Cynics might think it was a circle jerk that the rest of us didn’t need to go through.
C@tmomma@1911
For the record it should also be noted that Sales was interrupting him almost from the word go.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-17/tasmania-resources-minister-paul-harriss-resigns/7177396?section=tas
[Tasmania’s Resources Minister Paul Harriss has announced his retirement from Parliament, less than half way into his first term in the Lower House and as a Minister.]
That’s the problem with the Liberal Party, their Elder MPs don’t know when to bail! The Pensioner from Mackellar is stuck to her chair in the House of Reps like Howard, with Araldite!
If these things are winners, you’d have expected the Libs to go to the last election with “We’re going to slash services like Health and Education, but we’re also going to slash your taxes.”
If they did, however, I missed it.
The problem with baiter’s these days is the LNP are so crap the bait just makes you laugh.
Well that one’s gone worldwide airlines no doubt.
bemused,
‘ I think Labor should correct the Libs by using the term ‘tax and fund’.’
Great line! I’m going to pass it on. So should you.
Looks like the Coalition cockroaches have crawled out from under the floorboards.
C@tmomma, 1921
While I agree with you, the timing of your comment wasn’t exactly perfect 😛
Tax and fund? Just brings up images of Gillard style “funds” as part of the deals with the Greens.
Good one cotm please push ahead with that one – its a definite winner , to go with noodle nation and medicare gold.
[Bruce Ross
Bruce Ross – @brucerossbrc
Scott Morrison: “Workers need to start regarding the pension as a ‘welfare payment’, not an entitlement”
Yet the old still vote for the LNP]
[Justin Warren
Justin Warren – @jpwarren
When did Morrison renounce his parliamentary pension? Did I miss a memo? https://twitter.com/brucerossbrc/status/699388273764925440 …
10:42 PM – 15 Feb 2016
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Revision of my post @1893
I noted that once again today Morrison used the ‘tax and spend’ line against Labor.
I think the choice of the word ‘spend’ is quite deliberately chosen to imply Labor is wasteful as in ‘spend thrifts’.
I think Labor should correct the Libs by using the term ‘tax to fund’.
We fund schools
We fund hospitals
We fund roads
We fund public transport
We fund all the services taxpayers rely on.
Read that article by Tingle. She pretty much nails ScoMo. Libs are going to be in a poor position if they wait to spring stuff on people come budget time.
And its curious. ScoMo claiming $80B in savings but as well they claim the $80B they took off the states never actually existed??
They seem to have a somewhat ESJesque relationship with reality?
Um victoria he doesn’t qualify for a pension – given he was elected after 2004.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-17/wa-premier-colin-barnett-mocks-opposition-leader-mark-mcgowan/7178498?section=wa
[West Australian Premier Colin Barnett has seized on renewed Labor leadership speculation, mocking state Opposition Leader Mark McGowan’s prospects of hanging onto the job.
Mr Barnett used Question Time to ridicule Mr McGowan over the speculation, which followed Alannah MacTiernan’s decision to quit federal politics.]
[Just brings up images of Gillard style “funds” as part of the deals with the Greens.]
I have no idea what you’re referring to, so it can’t have resonated with ordinary voters (or anyone, really).
This is scott Morrison tweeting before going on 7.30. Is he taking the piss??
[Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison – Verified account @ScottMorrisonMP
About to speak to @leighsales on @abc730 about the Govts plan to back Australians in our transitioning economy. #auspol
12:30 AM – 17 Feb 2016]
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Tax and fund waste exactly.
Tax and fund infinite cost increases exactly.
Tax and stuff economic growth exactly.
Tax and force inflation exactly.
Look forward to the election.
bemused@1930
Maybe better still:
Taxes to fund schools
Taxes to fund hospitals
Taxes to fund roads
Taxes to fund public transport
Taxes to fund all the services taxpayers rely on.
The cat with the hat sat on the mat silmaj.
Gloves off in this face slap between Stephen Mayne and John Ferguson @ the Oz.
https://twitter.com/fergusonjw/status/699921495263326209
Night freaks! Mr Snooze is calling me !
[Stephen Koukoulas
Stephen Koukoulas – Verified account @TheKouk
Morrison says he’s delivered a low tax outcome. Tax to GDP risen every year since 2012-13 & will rise every year till at least 2020 @abc730]
Taxes to fund EsJ and slimag’s pensions?
Bob Ellis’s take:
[Morrison vs Leigh Sales on 7.30.
The worst interview by a Treasurer in the English language in, perhaps, five hundred years.
http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2016/02/17/recommended-viewing-20/%5D
[Thanks WWP – I guess it’s here, a bit over two hours in. I researched in anticipation of questions about who was going to win preselection, but wasn’t asked any of them.]
Thanks William, probably an insult coming from me but I mean well, good interview, I don’t know who this Jane is or where she came from but you are right she could have used your expertise much better.
Again thanks enjoyed listening to that.
CTar1@1942
Not good value. 🙁
1942
Was told when I was 18 there would be no pension so therefore won’t be taking one.
Was Morrison’s meaningless Press Club waffle today channeling Peter Sellers?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBtGuu9BVE
[Having knowledge of a crime and the power to prevent it and choosing not to do so is exactly at the same level of misdeed as the crime itself. At least a paedophile might claim some mental disturbance – Pell just didn’t care about anyone else but himself and will absolutely rot in hell if such a place exists.]
I guess it is here my personal experience lets me down.
I have only known one victim really well.
I had only a good understanding of the priest under whose ‘watch’ the abuse occurred (it wasn’t the priest, just a very respected member of the congregation), also knowing her mother well and understanding the mothers guilt no doubt retards my understanding, and knowing the top priest or archbishop in the state and personally confronting him about his failures probably hinders me as well.
[bemused
Posted Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 10:12 pm | PERMALINK
I noted that once again today Morrison used the ‘tax and spend’ line against Labor.
I think the choice of the word ‘spend’ is quite deliberately chosen to imply Labor is wasteful.
I think Labor should correct the Libs by using the term ‘tax and fund’.
We fund schools
We fund hospitals
We fund roads
We fund public transport
We fund all the services taxpayers rely on.</i]
Sounds like a good idea to me Bemused.
[silmaj
Posted Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 10:55 pm | PERMALINK
Tax and fund waste exactly.
Tax and fund infinite cost increases exactly.
Tax and stuff economic growth exactly.
Tax and force inflation exactly.
Look forward to the election]
Is this moron TBA in another guise?