Newspoll and Nielsen: 54-46; Morgan: 53.5-46.5

Three more big-sample polls for those of you still wondering what the next three years might have in store. Alternatively, you could just wait a couple of hours.

The last of the major polls go as follows:

• A Newspoll survey conducted on Wednesday and Thursday from over 2500 respondents has Labor on 33%, the Coalition on 46% and the Greens on 9%, for a commanding Coalition lead of 54-46 on two-party preferred. Full breakdowns here.

• Nielsen concurs with Newspoll on both major parties’ primary votes in its poll of 1431 respondents conducted on Wednesday and Thursday, but has the Greens two points higher at 11%. Both The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald have exasperatingly declined to provide breakdowns, but from what I can gather from the printed copy, the poll has the Coalition ahead 56-44 in New South Wales and behind 51-49 in Victoria, while in Queensland Labor’s primary vote is on just 27% (under two Senate quotas, for those of you with an eye on that kind of thing).

• Morgan has a poll of 4937 respondents conducted by SMS, online and live interview phone polling which has Labor at just 31.5%, with the Coalition on 44%, the Greens on 10.5% and the Palmer United Party on 6.5%. This pans out to 53.5-46.5 on respondent-allocated preferences, but to 54.5-45.5 on the previous election preferences method used by Nielsen and Newspoll.

BludgerTrack has been updated with all of the above, and it continues to offer a rosier assessment for Labor than the betting markets in particular would suggest (though note that I’ve knocked on the head my idea of revising the preference model to grant Labor a bigger share of the Palmer United Party vote in Queensland, which has made two seats’ difference). As I’ve noted a number of times, this is mostly down to the consistent tendency of electorate-level polling to produce worse results for Labor than that national and statewide polling that are the bread and butter of BludgerTrack. To illustrate this point, and also for your general convenience, I offer below a complete listing to all such polls published during the campaign. Averages are also provided for the swings in each state, and by each pollster. What this suggests is that the automated phone polling by Galaxy, which has generally produced highly plausible results, has not been too far out of line with national polling, and it has generally offered highly plausible results. The live interview phone polling of Newspoll looks to have performed similarly, but that’s because its sample includes the unusual cases of New England and Lyne. Beyond that three automated phone pollsters who are relatively new to the game, and whose consistent findings of huge Coalition swings should accordingly be treated with caution.

Key: NP=Newspoll, RT=ReachTEL, Gal.=Galaxy, Lon.=Lonergan, JWS=JWS Research.

NEW SOUTH WALES
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Dobell/RobertsonNP	13/8	505	35	50	8	46	-7
Lindsay		Lon.	14/8	1038	32	60	3	36	-15
Lyne		NP	14/8	504	26	51	7	41	+3
New England	NP	14/8	504	24	53	5	34	+1
Kingsford Smith	RT	15/8	610	38	47	10	48	-7
McMahon		RT	15/8	631	45	50	2	47	-11
Blaxland	RT	15/8	636	50	47	3	52	-10
Bennelong	RT	15/8	631	28	64	8	35	-12
Macquarie	JWS	15/8	710	35	51	8	45	-4
Lindsay		JWS	15/8	578	35	57	3	39	-12
Greenway	JWS	15/8	570	44	46	1	51	0
Banks		JWS	15/8	542	43	50	4	47	-4
Werriwa		Gal.	20/8	548	41	48	5	48	-9
Reid		Gal.	20/8	557	38	50	9	47	-6
Parramatta	Gal.	20/8	561	44	45	4	50	-4
Lindsay		Gal.	20/8	566	41	50	3	46	-5
Greenway	Gal.	20/8	585	45	46	3	49	-2
Barton		Gal.	20/8	551	44	44	9	52	-5
Banks		Gal.	20/8	557	40	47	6	48	-3
Barton		Gal.	20/8	575	44	44	9	52	-5
Banks		Gal.	20/8	575	40	47	6	48	-3
K-S/Page/E-M	NP	26/8	601	37	47	11	48	-7
ALP marginals*	NP	26/8	800	34	52	7	43	-9
McMahon		JWS	28/8	482	44	52	3	47	-11

Average swing								-6.1

* Parramatta/Reid/Banks/Lindsay/Greenway.								

VICTORIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Deakin		RT	15/8	619	36	50	13	47	-4
Corangamite	RT	15/8	633	36	54	10	44	-6
Melbourne	RT	15/8	860	35	24	35
Indi		RT	15/8	611	18	47	6
Corangamite	JWS	15/8	587	36	48	10	47	-3
Aston		JWS	15/8	577	29	59	8	37	-12
La Trobe	Gal.	20/8	575	36	45	12	49	-3
Corangamite	Gal.	20/8	575	35	52	9	44	-6
Chisholm	Gal.	20/8	575	46	45	7	48	-8
ALP marginals*	NP	28/8	800	34	47	13	47	-4
McEwen		JWS	28/8	540	35	47	6	45	-14
Bendigo		JWS	28/8	588	40	40	9	51	-9

Average swing								-6.9

* La Trobe/Deakin/Corangamite								

QUEENSLAND
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Griffith	RT	05/8	702	48	43	8	46	-12
Forde		RT	08/8	725	40	48	4	46	-2
Forde		Lon.	15/8	1160	34	56	4	40	-8
Forde		JWS	15/8	568	33	54	4	40	-8
Brisbane	JWS	15/8	607	36	50	9	46	-3
LNP marginals*	NP	20/8	1382	32	54	5	40	-8
Forde		NP	20/8	502	38	48	5	46	-2
Griffith	Lon.	21/8	958	38	47	11	48	-10
Griffith	NP	22/8	500	37	48	12	48	-10
Lilley		JWS	28/8	757	40	48	5	46	-7
Griffith	JWS	28/8	551	48	40	7	57	-1
Blair		Gal.	29/8	604	39	40	8	50	-4
Dawson		Gal.	29/8	550	34	48	4	43	-5
Griffith	Gal.	29/8	655	41	37	12	54	-4
Herbert		Gal.	29/8	589	36	47	6	45	-3
ALP marginals**	NP	30/8	800	38	42	8	49	-4

Average swing								-5.9

* Brisbane/Forde/Longman/Herbert/Dawson/Bonner/Flynn/Fisher
** Moreton/Petrie/Lilley/Capricornia/Blair/Rankin/Oxley								

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Brand		Gal.	29/8	660	42	42	10	52	-1
Hasluck		Gal.	29/8	553	34	46	10	45	-4
Perth		Gal.	29/8	550	47	35	13	58	+2

Average swing								-1.2								

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Hindmarsh	Gal.	22/8	586	41	44	10	50	-6
Wakefield	Gal.	26/8	575	44	35	7	55	-6
Adelaide	Gal.	29/8	571	40	39	12	54	-4

Average swing								-5.0

TASMANIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Bass		RT	22/8	541	30	52	8	42	-15
Braddon		RT	22/8	588	36	51	4	43	-14
Denison		RT	22/8	563	19	24	11	
Franklin	RT	22/8	544	30	39	16	51	-10
Lyons		RT	22/8	549	30	47	11	44	-18
Bass		RT	03/9	659	28	54	10	41	-16

Average swing								-14.7

AVERAGE SWING BY POLLSTER
				N	 	 	 	 	SWING
Galaxy				22					-4.3
Newspoll			10					-4.7
JWS Research			13					-6.8
ReachTEL			16					-8.6
Lonergan			3					-11.3

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

973 comments on “Newspoll and Nielsen: 54-46; Morgan: 53.5-46.5”

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  1. According to the Morgan exit poll, 23 per cent of the primary vote was green/palmer/other. That seems very high to me. Be very interesting to see where preferences flow.

  2. Mick77 @ 451…

    “And in true democratic fashion, Labor rusted-ons should acknowledge that as from tonight Tony Abbott is the Prime Minister of all of us, of our country he’s OUR PM.That’s democracy at work in case you’ve forgotten.”

    No way Mick. Tony Abbott is NOT my PM …he belongs body & soul to “home town hero” and now American citizen, Mr Rupert Murdoch …

  3. It is indeed a great festival of democracy.

    As usual,the HTVers from all parties got along pretty well, some humurous ribbing aside.

    I wouldnt miss it.

  4. BK
    Thanks, have managed to get another Senate vote for ALP this morning at coffee before the real Nat supporters arrived 😀 Overall 5 votes for ALP in Senate which is an achievement with the people concerned
    Living in a small town know so many of the people and was sad to see people just taking “pruneface’s” card only and actually saying to ALP guy “no not yours” which is why I went over and spoke to him as I took his card.

  5. Just come from a booth in Hindmarsh that was last time very close to 50-50 2PP – bad feeling for ALP there which is a surprise, I expected it to go Lib 2PP by a little but this one really zinging by the feel.
    Sorry can’t reveal which booth as may disclose my identity.

  6. Revised Blackburnpseph prediction based on the Newspoll state by state. Damned ugly for the ALP – Queensland could be total wipe out for Labor except that Katter could help them keep Capricornia – Even Oxley could be in play.

    Coalition 103, ALP 42, Others 5 – Katter, Wilkie, Bandt plus Indi, Fairfax
    NSW Libs +12
    Independent to Coalition: Lyne, New England
    Coalition to win: Banks, Dobell, Eden-Monaro, Greenway, Kingsford Smith, Lindsay, Reid, Robertson,
    Libs to win 2 of: Page, Richmond, Parramatta,

    Victoria : Libs +5
    Melbourne to stay Green
    Coalition to win: Corangamite, Deakin, La Trobe, Chisholm
    Libs to win 2 of: Bendigo, Bruce, McEwen, Melbourne Ports
    Indi – think Mirabella might lose it.

    Queensland Libs +5
    Coalition to win: Lilley, Moreton, Petrie, Griffith, Blair, Rankin
    KAP will help Labor hold Capricornia
    Oxley too close to call,
    Fairfax: I just think Clive might do it.

    Tasmania: Libs +3
    Coalition to win: Bass , Braddon.
    One of Lyons or Franklin

    SA: Libs +2
    Libs to win Hindmarsh, Adelaide

    NT: Libs +1
    Libs to win Lingiari

  7. “@GCobber99: @ABCNews24 say Rudds gone to ground & Abbott is campaigning BUT Rudd is at Brisbane town hall talking to people! our media is stuffed”

  8. guytaur, that is terrible reporting.
    I had heard it reported that Rudd had stopped campaigning because he had decided he had lost. He had dropped his previous plans to campaign for the whole day.

  9. So I decided to vote below the line. First problem is that the stupid paper is twice as wide as the voting booth. Why not have the candidates in two or three rows?

    I numbered in the boxes and got to the end only to find I had the number 109 in it. There are 110 boxes. I looked through my numbering from start to finish, constantly having to flip the stupidly wide paper over, but couldn’t find my mistake. Ended up putting a 1 above the line just in case.

  10. FWIW I managed to convince the girls at the hairdressers (none of whom have voted yet) to vote 1 ALP in the Senate. One is voting for Chub in the HoR because he’s hot and drives a top of the range Range Rover, another is voting Sex Party, and the salon owner is voting Liberal.

    All would’ve voted for Allanah if she was Labor’s candidate here because they love her personality and she’s a great example for women. The other customers, esp me all concurred.

  11. That exit poll is surprisingly encouraging. How accurate do Morgan’s tend to be?

    All depends on the preferences, if the others vote is any indication.

  12. [Seems liberals are getting fixation of Rudd/Gillard:]

    How dare the farking Liberals remind us that Gillard the Dillard was our PM for the last 3 years!! The Cheek of it all!

    We must do what the Labor Party wants us to do and look into the memory erase beam 🙂

  13. zoidlord@617

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 42s

    #Morgan Poll – Exit Poll (1PM update) Primary Votes: ALP 34.5 L/NP 42 GRN 11 PUP 5.5 #ausvotes

    On those figures, a Labor/Green coalition would trump the L/NP !!!!

    Not going to happen, I guess, but one can dream.

    The best outcome would be for Labor to win Government, but Kevin Rudd to lose his seat.

    Unfortunately, I think we are due for Tony Abbott PM, Julie Bishop FA, Joe Hockey Treasurer.

    The stuff of nightmares.

  14. Edi_Mahin
    Posted Saturday, September 7, 2013 at 12:45 pm | PERMALINK
    Bill Shorten is upbeat because he sees his path to the Labor leadership being cleared by the election result.

    ———-ominous. short is problem not solution. how brazen to show form today. i am out of all parties present if shorten takes over. no union appointees – if murdoch and reinhart out of liberals then union caucasing from labor … rudd is only one middle of road.

  15. today is beginning one way or other of two exciting years ahead … either way abbott goes – enjoy his phyric day the accidental buffoon. 3 years of msm tirades leading up the murdoch billboards in campaign must have effect … no more

  16. How shrill will the spiel be from the fibs regarding the SUBSTANTIALLY worse than we thought budget reality.
    This is going to be depressing.
    No tv or radio for me for the next 3 years.

  17. [I had heard it reported that Rudd had stopped campaigning because he had decided he had lost. He had dropped his previous plans to campaign for the whole day.]

    That’s beyond bad reporting into the realm of deliberate mendacity

    They’d make great offsiders for an autocrat, our media

  18. Okay I’ve decided how I’m going to vote… it will be:

    1. KAP (so they get my vote money)

    2. LNP (so they get my vote)

    And then anyone after that is kind of irrelevent…

    Onto the senate… probably vote KAP in the senate with the hope of stealing an extra Labor senate seat though this could backfire because KAP preferences feed firstly to Labor.

    Interesting days!

  19. @tim_chr: Best. MT @JohnHillNews: ALP boosts Jaymes Diaz’s profile on the big screen outside Greenway polling booths. #ausvotes http://t.co/ikwZ1OeT5J

    “@sspencer_63: The 1PM exclusive @roymorganonline @channeltennews exit poll has the 2PP narrowing to 48.5-51.5. Primaries Unchanged on 34.5 42 11”

  20. Looks like between 12pm update and 1pm update, the liberals lost a 0.5% 2PP.

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 59m

    #Morgan Poll – Exit Poll (12PM update) 2 Party Preferred: ALP 48 L/NP 52 #ausvotes

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 17m

    #Morgan Poll – Exit Poll (1PM update) 2 Party Preferred: ALP 48.5 L/NP 51.5 #ausvotes

  21. Exit Poll (1PM update) Primary Votes: ALP 34.5 L/NP 42 GRN 11 PUP 5.5 #ausvotes

    34.5 + 8.8 + 1.1 + 3.5 = 47.9
    42 + 4.4 + 5.7 = 52.1

    I think the GRN vote is quite high.

  22. [The best outcome would be for Labor to win Government, but Kevin Rudd to lose his seat.]

    You Rudd haters really should go back on your meds.

  23. mendacity is a word I am not familar with, where is a dictionary.

    mendacity
    1.
    the quality of being mendacious; untruthfulness; tendency to lie.
    2.
    an instance of lying; falsehood.

    I would hope it is a case of gross incompetence rather than something with malicious intent but it is completely dodgy no matter what the cause.

    Anyway I learnt a new word, thank you.

  24. Just voted in Hindmarsh. Admittedly at the most Liberal voting little booth, but I sensed baseball bats. Oh and no Sausage sizzle….ripped off!

  25. [Do we have a field report from Baghdad Bob, about the glorious victory unfolding?]

    Baghdad bob reports:
    THERE ARE NO LNP VOTES WITHIN 5% OF ANY ELECTORATE IN AUSTRALIA

  26. The other thing is, I have no idea how Morgan does exit polling – but I haven’t seen it terribly accurate before.
    Hence my comments last night about it being a waste of money.

  27. The mainstream media is fuacked.

    If we can poll in the 47s it’s a monumental performance.

    You watch the Greens get in the 8s, I’m hoping 7s 😀

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