A pre-Turnbull Roy Morgan face-to-face poll of 1703 respondents, conducted over the previous two weekends, has Labor’s two-party lead down from 58-42 to 55.5-44.5. Labor has taken a five point hit on the primary vote since the late August survey, from 50 per cent to 45 per cent, although the Coalition is only up one point to 38 per cent. Most of the balance is accounted for by a spike in the “independent/others” vote from 4.5 per cent to 7.5 per cent, which is 1 per cent higher than at any stage during the current term. The Greens are up from 6.5 per cent to 8 per cent.
UPDATE (20/9/08): Comments brings news of a Galaxy poll to appear in tomorrow’s News Limited papers showing Kevin Rudd leading Malcolm Turnbull as preferred leader 58 per cent to 28 per cent; 63 per cent say Turnbull will make no difference to their vote; 48 per cent describe Turnbull as arrogant compared with 23 per cent for Kevin Rudd. ABC TV reports the sample was about 400. Hat-tip: Bushfire Bill and Andos.
Glen
Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Local Government: Warren Truss.
But I dont blame you for not remembering. 😉
Yes, Warren is quite forgettable isnt he! 😉
ruawake,Truss has really matched it with Albanese hasn’t he? A super star in the making no doubt. Good to see so much youth and talent in vital areas of the Opposition front bench. Truss is only about 65 years young isn’t he?
Channel 9 have an hour long news on the Sunday mornings starting at 8.00 and Laurie conducts a political interview during that hour, usually in thelast half hour.
Who’s the fat Liberal bloke who sits on the far end of the Opposition front bench near the speaker?
Glen – you don’t think Abbott torpedoed his chances of promotion with his blog comment?
I think Oakes still does a his thing every Sunday
http://news.ninemsn.com/laurie-oakes.aspx/
thanks GB. No doubt that will be where Turnbull will be tomorrow morn.
Hawks, killing the Saints at the moment. Lock in a Cats-Hawks GF
Perhaps, but it would also look bad leaving him in a job he doesnt like and wont do to the best of his abilities.
That’s why i suspect he will be moved, perhaps to IR or Education and bring some young bloke up through the outer ministry who’ll be chomping at the bit for his job.
snap GB 🙂
Nigel Scullion may well be peeved, Barnaby took his Senate gig, I doubt he will retain the Shadow Fisherperson job either.
Glen…which, with the logic that seems to work within the Lib Party at the moment, will probably mean that Bronwyn Bishop gets the gig.
(Think of the most inappropriate person for the particular pos and they’re probably in…)
True Glen. Nice little annoyance though for Turnbull to have to deal with in the frst week. I’m betting it’s the first of many time Turnbull will be wondering if Abbott’s support is THAT necessary.
Bronwyn i think will keep her job, Vet Affairs suits her well.
[Who’s the fat Liberal bloke who sits on the far end of the Opposition front bench near the speaker?]
I think you are referring to Bob Baldwin:
http://www.aph.gov.au/House/members/member.asp?id=LL6
[Bronwyn i think will keep her job, Vet Affairs suits her well.]
This sums up the complete disarray the Liberals are in. She is at best an average backbencher, yet she gets given a shadow ministry.
Yeah it’s Baldwin:
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/work/seating.pdf
So Bob Baldwin does defence, how about swapping him with Abbott?
I havent heard him say peep!
Unless you’d prefer Alex Hawke, Shows On?
Allbull’s arrogance rating shows that us Aussies aren’t too keen on loud mouthed up themselves wankers. (smiles)
I will try again without the mobile this time.
I would have thought it unusual for an opposition leader, especially a brand spanking new one, to have such a high arrogance rating. Normally that comes with being in office. If the numbers were reveresed I would have understood. This indicates to me that people remember him from the Howard days and since and have already formed an opinion of Turnbull.
I reckon being considered arrogant when your in power isn’t so bad as it is associated with power. But having the rating without power, in the submissive positioin, probably means many think your a DH. So I reckon Turnbull has got a bit of work to do. This also explains Turnbull’s effort to show his humble origins the other day – he had already done the research and is aware of public opinion on him. It also explains Labor’s attempt to reinforce the image.
His PPM are lower than the LNP Primary so it is not as though they have been sitting waiting for Turnbull to take over so they could all cheer and then vote for him. Possum’s analysis of late that Nelson lost Liberal primary voters to others begins to ring true – but of course very early days.
Though I guess he will be much better for the polls than Nelson was.
I am still hoping for an outlier 58/42 justs to see the horror on their faces and wondering if Nelson was the correct candidate after all..hehe.
ABC TV news in Perth reports Deidre Willmott to take Chris Ellison’s Senate seat. Also says this Galaxy poll had a sample of 400.
So Willmott missed out on the Barnett cabinet, eh? I guess the Federal Senate’s not a bad booby prize.
Did they report the same figures for the Galaxy poll in the Perth bulletin?
25 PPM not a great figure for a new leader, and still means almost half Lib voters prefer Rudd as PM
Is there a 2PP figure??
SNIP: Tedious dig at other commenter deleted – The Management.
Yes Andos, 58-28 (not 25).
Vera (318)
Succinctly put.
“I am still hoping for an outlier 58/42 justs to see the horror on their faces and wondering if Nelson was the correct candidate after all..hehe.”
No-one is ever going to think Nelson was the right candidate.
Galaxy poll link
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24378436-1702,00.html
Pretty grim news for Turnbull in that poll. No 2PP in it however.
[NEW federal opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull has trounced Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in a new poll – beating him as the most arrogant politician.]
Great opening paragraph in that link Dario.
I guess he has 12 months to fix it before he gets fixed. There is a way I believe that they can close some of the gap but I aint going to give them any hints. It is trick people use when they are obviously out classed, out performed and under skilled. But then again my idea might be wrong.
So no Turnball inspired bounce for the Libs, after the MSM has spent the last few days talking up the prospects of a Coalition victory in 2010? LMAO
[Great opening paragraph in that link Dario]
Hehe I thought it was Shanners writing when I read it for the first time
[So no Turnball inspired bounce for the Libs, after the MSM has spent the last few days talking up the prospects of a Coalition victory in 2010? LMAO]
Ahh yes but Cossie was the true saviour, remember 😉
If you want a belly laugh read this clown. He wouldn’t know.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/team-kevin-rattled-as-malcolm-eyes-the-middle-20080920-4kmx.html
I think ‘clown’ is a very polite description. He should hand back his paycheck for that dribble.
For a start Howard remained in office for nearly 12 long years being bland. People love bland otherwise you scare the horses.
Daley comes out with this sort of nonsense from time to time. It is pure fantasy of course. Stuff like – “…Rudd seems to be so utterly rattled by him..”
On what on earth does he base that? Nothing of course, just pure invention. I can only assume he thinks he needs to write something to lift the spirits of the Coalition from time to time. It is actually a poor piece of writing but if fills the pages and is the manadtory pro-liberal piece for the weekend.
Daley might cast his mind back to Rudd’s battle with the little electioneering master Howard and against a hostile media determined to smear and bring him down. Rudd remained cool and defeated them all under intense pressure. And we might recall he basically sent Howard into depression and, we had that infamous dark night where he almost gave up the leadership. Turnbull is no Howard and there is no Costello figure left. Rudd is up against a mostly talentless LNP and Turbull represents the pinnacle of their talent.
Rudd rattled?
I imagine we are going to get a lot of pro-Turnbull anti Rudd pieces in the near future from certain areas to try and give Turnbull a leg up.
Appears no voting intention question was included in Galaxy.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24377750-661,00.html
New thread.