Minus one week and two days, to be precise. Next Wednesday our time, North Carolina Democrats will elect 115 delegates, 77 by district-level proportional representation and 38 by statewide PR*. Indiana will elect 72 delegates, 47 by district-level and 25 statewide. Both are primaries, which have been doing better for Hillary Clinton that caucuses. However, the polls have Barack Obama ahead in both states – commandingly so in North Carolina (51.3 per cent to 35.8 per cent, according to Real Clear Politics’ fortnight average), narrowly in Indiana (46.3 per cent to 43.3 per cent). North Carolina will have a “modified” primary open to independents and registered Democrats; Indiana will have an open primary, meaning all voters can participate. And let us not forget Thursday’s caucuses for the Pacific island of Guam, at which three delegates will be selected by a closed caucus.
* Correct me if I’m wrong here (or anywhere else), somebody.
Fair and balanced commentary from the Smirking Chimp. Hillary’s refusal to concede despite having lost should not be tolerated by the Democrat Party. Why is it being tolerated?
Because
(1) Hillary is a female
(2) Her husband has a “zipper problem”
(3) Starry eyed Democrats cling to the myth that Bill actually did something in his eight years
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print/14249
Ferny
Ferny I put a proposition & you’ve answered with a question
You’re disputing the election POTUS results of ‘liberal Democrats’ candidates ?
after which i’m happy to discuss Julia
Even the neocons can pick the Obama’s Philly con trick ,
and surgically destroy it
“These equivalences (Obama’s) having been revealed as the cheap rhetorical tricks they always were, Obama has now decided that the man he simply could not banish because he had become part of Obama himself is, mirabile dictu, surgically excised.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/the_race_speech_revisited.html
Dio@801
Great link!
Ron,
You say so many things it’s easy to lose a proposition in the crowd. I must have missed it.
Ferny
#805
In my #792 I was saying the actual history of POTUS elections since 1972
has seen 4 ‘left Democrat’ candidates represent the typical northeast Liberal
(their faction is called ‘Liberal Democrats or ‘left Democrats’)
The majority (over 50%) here & in the US vote only for a ALP or Democrat candidate who is ‘central’ like Hawke , Keating & Rudd
and in the US a Clinton or Gore lost by 2,000 votes & won without Nader)
(NOT from the Labor left or Democrat left)
The only Democrat left candidates in 36 years werel 4 in the US, all got thrashed again highlighting the view
(admittedly one was less ‘left’ left than the other 3)
Its like putting Julia up as the ALP leader , Howard would have won I believe,
All I want from any of the candidates is to solve the palestinian ghetto crisis
that and only that would prove they are for a new direction
(maybe it would go a long way to resolving iraq and bringing gas back to $2 a gallon)
The sleeper issue is “the war on terror” and its real costs to Uncle Sam
A lot of folks
Bill philandered his way throughout their marriage ?
Obama’s hero MLK did also.
ron @ 786 another ‘thinkskin’ checkmate moment! luvit.
Check this…
http://www.yourdemocracy.net.au/drupal/node/6291
Codger
Just got back to my screen & you give me a cartoon , and very good one ignoring the politics
As you have your own ‘codger’ class category , the popcorn set may not understand the ‘codger’ message of thinkskin’ , so perhaps you should define
805
Ferny Grover
That’s caused by a severe condition Ferny, it’s called ‘eyes glazed over’, and I’ve got it too. Only certain posts, but man, they glaze the eyes, numb the senses, and cause me to rapidly skip down the page! LOL
The Rev freakin’ Wright is not Barack Obama, and is as unlike him as anyone you could imagine. Wright shows what Obama is NOT, and probably better than most people could have realised had they not seen the Reverend in full bipolar disorder.
The good Hoosiers interviewed in the article I cited obviously figured that out.
Diogenes at 801
Wow – that article has some serious energy!
FINNS & GG re Kirriblli
Kirri
#809
“The Rev freakin’ Wright is not Barack Obama, and is as unlike him as anyone you could imagine. Wright shows what Obama is NOT, and probably better than most people could have realised had they not seen the Reverend in full bipolar disorder ”
The first Obamabot has broken ranks !! And now disown the Pastor
Kirri NOW says the pastor quote: “the Reverend in full bipolar disorder”
Kirri says it casually as if thats always been his view. It hasn’t , do you want your previous quotes ? Such ‘revisionist’ attempts will not do.
However you could say frankly my original judgement was in eror and I now realise he is a whacko , like the 3 Amigos have said from day one
Who will be the next Obamabot to break ranks, jen , j/v , , there’s another 25
Perhaps if you now re-read Obama’s Philly speech ‘a more perfect union’ , you
will notice how many times Obama did commit himself to Wright then and and there are numerous quotes now to quote back against him politically. Silly man
I think I may have contracted as ISD (Internet Transmitted Disease) – Ferny showed symptoms at #806 and KR talked about a similar affliction at #809. I recognize the symptions – your reading, you recognize some key words, the name flickers in your subconsouse, you scroll down in the hope the someone else has posted something on-topic, there is a sincking feeling in the pit of your stomach and your thinking to yourself ‘it will go away’ but in your mind you can hear a voice calling out ‘just 115 days’. Your eyelids drop slowly and everything goes dark, you walk away from the keyboard – eyes wide shut. Looking out into the darkness you hear yourself screaming.
Wow, back to reality!
No change over on the DCW.
Cracker piece Dio, that one by Prof Green. And you get the feeling that he’s not entirely alone!
There’s a whipser in the Indiana press that Evan Bayh may not be holding everyone’s nuts in a jar anymore, and after Andrews you get the hint they’re itching to defect.
It’s like a Kremlin power struggle without the corpses.
812
Catrina
ISD’s can be nasty Catrina, and can really mess up your head.
I’d prescribe lots of serious distractions, maybe some US polls, study those, and read some good quality analysis, get lots of rest, some exercise, and avoid anything with the word W_R_I_G_H_T as it will bring on the symptoms.
Failing that, Jon Stewart and relaxant of choice!
ron @ 808 your point?
Sorry ron @ 809
every time you make me special I go all funny…anyway
for the ‘popcorn set’ and you
524
codger Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
But ron my words are expensive, ‘I’m special’ but free for you…
Good morning all, says Ron @ 394
‘seems the more that generally white Americans see Obama as obviously ‘black’ the less they support him which may indicate a ‘black’ candidate may have an electoral problem generally with whites’
And I thought there’s something not quite wright about that …hmm Got it.
Just add one of your previous comments…‘thinkskin’…it’s easy…So the last bit reads:
a ‘black’ candidate may have an electoral problem generally with whites’, ‘thinkskin’. More better. Or Houston we have a problem?
Over to you Major Ron.
BTW Jen’s togs are gone, your thinkskin is in, how about that!
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New thread up.
I meant that whoever wins the democratic nomination, the federal election will be close and it will likely depend – again – on Florida and Ohio.
As to close things in various states, if you look at the map over time, there are no surprises. Polls may be closer here and there, but the fact remains that Hillary is going to win Penn, while Obama might not, and Obama has no chance in Florida and is behind in Ohio. Dreaming about Obama winning Texas is wishful thinking in the extreme. It just is not going to happen.
Indiana polling:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_democratic_primary-639.html