Roy Morgan: 51.5-48.5 to Labor (open thread)

Amid a drought of federal opinion polling, a sedate result from the often volatile Roy Morgan series.

The only federal poll for the week was the regular weekly Roy Morgan, which had Labor with an unchanged two-party lead of 51.5-48.5, from primary votes of Labor 31.5% (down half), Coalition 37% (down one), Greens 12.5% (down half) and One Nation 5.5% (up one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of a 1710.

Aside from a dearth of published polling, the non-external factors that have contributed to this site being light on for posts lately have been the effort I’ve been putting in trying to get live results features up for the Tasmanian election (see above post) and tomorrow’s South Australian state by-election for Dunstan, which in the absence of any polling for the highly marginal seat should prove an interesting litmus test for Peter Malinauskas’s Labor government.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Once upon a time having a deposit of 200,000 would have gone far to buy a small unit or townhouse in the outer suburbs.
    Not anymore.

  2. AE (and Cat)

    I know Labor thinks it has defused a hand grenade in AUKUS but the risks and costs remaining with AUKUS really are incredible. Imagine the political fallout if Australia hands over $4.7 billion to USA and then Trump renegs on the Virginia deal? It could cost Labor government.

    I was at an engineering conference over the past few days (so not much posting) and AUKUS was discussed informally by a number of senior engineers, including one ex defence official. They are aghast at the politicisation of defence technical decisions with an almost total lack of informed technical inputs to the decisions. This relates to a gradual decline in the engineering skills remaining in defence.

    The biggest risk for AUKUS IFF everything goes right in the delivery phase, will be the extraordinary difficulty in maintaining/sustaining for 30 years a sub force consisting of UK and US SSNs. The two are built by separate industries with almost no firms in common and completely different supply chains. That will require different equipment, two lots of spare parts, different training and procedures… a logistical nightmare. Typically maintaining an SSN costs more than building it – around 150% of construction cost over 30 years.

    Other huge risks we face are attracting and training enough crew. An east coast sub base with rotations would help solve that, but it remains a distant dream for political reasons.

  3. Ven

    Finally the dems were able to get Lev Parnas, former right hand man of Guliani, to give evidence.

    Frankly, there should be a wholesale investigation into all the players of this scheme.

    Watergate was a picnic in comparison

  4. On that photo of Trump and Melania, I couldn’t help noticing that Melania was holding her right hand behind her back, so that Donald could not hold it. Hmmm.

  5. “ Tony Abbott’s Jap deal to buy D/E Soryu’s is looking good now.
    We’d only be 4 or 5 years away from delivery, plus they agreed to share the tech.
    Perhaps the NACC could inquire the reasons Turnbull dumped it?”

    ____

    This is stupid. Just stupid. When Japan put in a bid via the competitive evaluation process – something that Abbott was forced int in early 2015 – the version of the Soryu tendered failed to meet the program specifications in three aspects: no technology transfer (indeed critical parts of the boat’s subsystems were to remain a Japanese secret for the life of the program), no US combat or weapons systems (these would have had to be negotiated as ‘extras’ after the contract was awarded, and lastly no guaranteed local build (again, an ‘extra’ to be negotiated afterwards.

    The bid team didnt even bother attending the two conferences that the RAN and ACS ran in 2015 and 2016 to discuss the requirements of the program.

    The german bid was just as bad on all three critical aspects.

    In truth only two bidders actually submitted proposals that met the specifications of the program – naval group from france (as it is now known) and Kockums-SAAB (Sweden). Kockums was knocked out at a preliminary stage because they hadn’t actually built a sub themselves for 30 years (and given the delays in building their type A26 since then, and the failure to win the Dutch contract this month, it was probably a wise thing to cull them early.

    One further point: do not let bad faith commentators like Rex Patrick deceive you into thinking that both the Japanese and German bids were cheaper than the french one. The french bid was the only one that met program specifications and was an ‘incls’ cost – $32 billion to build 12 boats (including a premium for technology transfer) plus $18 billion for ‘program costs’: these figures are in ‘2016 constant value’ costs and when the contract was cancelled in 2021 all design gateways had been passed through and the total value (2016 dollars) had actually shrunk to $47 billion (as ‘program costs’ had reduced to $15 billion dollars): the value of the Naval Group contract was still $32 billion.

    All of this was scrutinised by an audit which gave the CEP a big tick: something that cannot be said for the Hunter Class Frigate program, for example.


  6. Scottsays:
    Friday, March 22, 2024 at 7:59 am
    The lib/nats and their propaganda media are not politically intelligent to work out

    What propaganda worked 14 years ago is not working now

    Immigrants / boat people propaganda is outdated , majority have woken up to it

    Not really.

  7. Cheap interest rates encourage speculation on inner city residential property.
    Head down to the Logan City badlands, a house costs 4x average annual earnings, same as it always did.
    Back when Keating was Treasurer and interest rates were 18%, houses in Bulimba and New Farm were going for $35,000, when they could find buyers.
    Erdogan solved that problem yesterday, so long as Albanese/Chalmers keep putting the hard decisions off, the worse it will get.

  8. Meanwhile I’m starting the think the games currently being played out in the royal family, have to do with issues regarding line of succession as a result of the current crisis.

    And those within the extended family who have been compromised by Russian oligarch money. London and the aristocracy has been awash with this money for decades.

    Putin and his oligarchy friends invested so much money in London. It wasn’t just the USA.

    It’s always Russia, Russia, Russia. lol!

  9. Provincial Peter ™ rubbing shoulders with well-heeled donors – and despite the accepted wisdom, is in fact ‘a ladies’ man’….

    On matters closer to home, the opposition leader suggested the next federal election could come in November this year, although that’s unlikely given Queensland goes to the polls a month before. He was optimistic about winning back seats in Western Australia, the Northern Territory, and Queensland. He also maintained the party could win some of its old blue ribbon electorates from teal independents, claiming that Kooyong MP Monique Ryan, who he described as “effectively a Green”, would be in trouble.

    When informed of the comments, Ryan responded good-humouredly. “If Peter Dutton really wants to know me – and get to know Kooyong – I’m happy to take him out for dinner in Melbourne one night.”

    Consensus in the room was that a hung parliament would be likely.

    For Dutton to do better than that, he’ll need to improve the Coalition’s performance among female voters, who demonstrated their distaste for Scott Morrison at the last election.

    And the opposition leader certainly seems aware of this. According to our sources, all women in the room were invited to pose for a picture with Dutton before taking their seats. Who knew he was such a ladies’ man?

    https://www.smh.com.au/cbd/what-dutton-says-when-his-guard-is-down-and-why-us-politics-is-not-his-strength-20240321-p5feaa.html

  10. @Dog’s breakfast:

    From last thread: Any takers?

    ____

    I hear that FriendlyJordies is booked to do the warm up.

  11. There isnt any issues regarding the line of succession in the UK royal family. Sure they have issue, but that isnt one of them.

  12. Thanks again BK, this caught my eye from your aggregation this am…
    “ David Crowe provides us with a very good explanation of how we got where we are with the religious freedom acts. He says that Albanese has manages to get Dutton into a tirade, the sheer ferocity of which confirmed the wisdom of waiting for bipartisan support before throwing the country into a debilitating and divisive argument.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/why-albanese-refuses-to-take-this-leap-of-faith-without-dutton-20240320-p5fdyp.html”

    The heat and fury that this issue garners in the conservative/religious sphere can be used by Labor to shine a very effective spotlight on Dutton and his Noalition.
    Contrast this issue to the growing list of negative campaigns they have run since Labor came to power and call Dutton out for not supporting what are no-brainer provisions in the legislation and that ‘if they (LNP) think this is such an important issue, why are they not doing all they can to support a bill that affects all of us (apparently).
    It will highlight Dutton’s negativity and entrench the idea that he just wants to destroy Labor and is willing to sacrifice his extreme right wing’s centrepiece grievance issue.
    Why should we have to have legislation that protects people working for churches? Aren’t they sanctuaries?

  13. On a more constructive note, some other comments from that conference may be relevant to the government.

    There was broad support for Chris Bowen’s efforts on the New Vehicle Efficiency Scheme. It is clear now there will be many synergies between EVs and a renewable power grid. The EVs power demand will actually support the grid upgrade economics. And still a huge saving vs importing oil costs.

    On building and reforms like pre fabricated houses, it is a very good idea, but two obstacles remain.

    One is the wrecking of the Australian Standards system under the Howard government (not fixed by Rudd or Gillard). Howard moved Australian Standards to a corporatised cost recovery model where they need to charge for everything to pay for themselves. This kills incentive for standards research, is open to industry lobbying (witness flammable cladding) and discourages simpler, cheaper approaches like adopting International Standards where appropriate. AS were viewed as a self serving bureaucracy.

    The other is the inconsistent legislation on building inspections and quality at the state level, especially the failed system in NSW. This is leading to an epidemic of faulty buildings in some states and councils. (Gold star to Qld for the best system here). One senior structural engineer said explicitly she would not buy a post 2000 built apartment in Sydney.

  14. “ Back when Keating was Treasurer and interest rates were 18%”

    ____

    Ya mean that nine month period when Bernie Fraser lost the plot, right?

  15. Mostly interested

    I think they are working it out behind the scenes. I guess we can only watch this space to see where it all leads.

  16. Andrew_Earlwood says:
    Friday, March 22, 2024 at 9:12 am
    @Dog’s breakfast:

    From last thread: Any takers?

    ____

    I hear that FriendlyJordies is booked to do the warm up.

    ————

    The comments on Facebook seemed strangely opposed to attending the event and vomit was mentioned or implied by many. One poster gave it a Love heart though…sound of one hand clapping?

  17. Charles the Brief
    William the Humorless
    George the Cranky
    Followed by Charlotte the Great who became president of the EU after leading the UK back into the union

    I’m pretty sure they’ve got the 21st Century worked out

  18. “”On matters closer to home, the opposition leader suggested the next federal election could come in November this year, although that’s unlikely given Queensland goes to the polls a month before.””
    That reasoning doesn’t make sense.
    The LNP are certainties to win in Qld in October, once that’s out of the way for Labor, voters in Qld will be less likely to cane Albanese too.
    Similar happened in 1976, NSW voters had just completely rejected Whitlam/Labor, 4 months later they elected Wran/Labor.

  19. Socrates says
    The other is the inconsistent legislation on building inspections and quality at the state level, especially the failed system in NSW

    The CDC for our new place which sits about 2m in elevation above the house next door was held up for about six weeks because it ‘apparently’ sat within a 1 in 100 year flood zone. The house next door had already been approved when ours started the process.
    Our local council was involved, and it has an horrendous record on building approvals.

  20. C@tmomma @ #7 Friday, March 22nd, 2024 – 6:57 am

    To the extent that anyone who criticises the money going to the US and UK doesn’t know what they’re talking about. It’s money well-spent by our federal government to safeguard our future. And as the Mastercard ad goes, that’s priceless.

    I’ll bet you also believe those phone calls that start out “This is the security department of Mastercard …”

    Let me clue you in: They are both scams.

  21. BK posted this earlier. I guess we can see what is happening here. The UK, knowing we were giving the US $4.7billion to build their nuclear submarines thought “we want some of the AUKUS money too, now “. Since Australia wants to help us as well.
    Even if Australia won’t get these drawing board only UK nuclear powered subs in 15 plus years time. If ever.

    If people can’t see AUKUS is a bad deal for Australia they have blinkers on. Or don’t follow politics. Labor is hoping it is the latter.

    Yes Australia can afford to throw money around, help the US in another war. No need to spend these $billions at home.

    To me it just seems a plot for Morrison, other Liberal mates (Hockey, Pyne) now ex Labor Premier McGowan, with a nuclear powered submarine now for a week at HMAS Stirling Base in Perth, maybe other Labor MPs – Marles, Conroy when out of politics, to get a good post political job paying well.

    And using BAE systems that has been involved in the troubled future frigates program. Says everything about how politics wins out. Australians don’t.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/australia-to-spend-5b-on-uk-subs-in-aukus-pact-20240321-p5fe4m

    Taxpayers will give the UK government almost $5 billion to subsidise an expansion of British production lines for Australia’s first nuclear-powered submarines, as well as a downpayment on design work.

    And British defence giant BAE Systems – the same company overseeing the troubled future frigates program – has been appointed as the local builder for the joint AUKUS-class submarine that will be operated by the Australian and British navies.

  22. In joint statements with Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy, Mr Marles outlines plans for a Skills and Training Academy at Osborne, including overseas placements in the US for vocational teachers to learn nuclear-powered submarine skills in a “train-the-trainer” scheme.

    What this shows is that, contrary to negative speculation about crews and jobs, that the federal government is making careful plans and provisions for the program that will cement the industry and the RAN in place on solid ground into the latter decades of the century.

    There will be hiccups, sure, but nothing insurmountable and long term that I can see, only short term and which is being dealt with.

    Also, on the crewing issue for the subs (another short term not insurmountable issue), if you are a young person who yearns to get into the property market, then join the Navy! You will be virtually given a house! Which is what the ads that I am seeing are pointing out. You just have to make the payments at very reasonable rates.

  23. I see Alan Finkel is also now softening us up for Labor’s forthcoming Big Switch on nuclear …

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/22/heres-why-there-is-no-nuclear-option-for-australia-to-reach-net-zero

    Here is how he starts out …

    While nuclear power might experience a resurgence globally and eventually have a role in Australia, right now, no matter how much intent there might be to activate a nuclear power industry, it is difficult to envision before 2040.

    The reality is there is no substitute for solar and wind power this decade and next, supported by batteries, transmission lines and peaking gas generation.

    Any call to go directly from coal to nuclear is effectively a call to delay decarbonisation of our electricity system by 20 years.

    … but here is where he finishes up …

    Still, introducing nuclear power when we can, starting in the 2040s, would bring benefits. Most importantly, nuclear power generation would reduce the ongoing mining footprint for the regular replacement of solar panels, wind turbines and batteries and the expanded electricity generation to support decarbonising our exports and population growth.

    For these reasons, it would be worth removing the ban on nuclear power so that we can at least thoroughly investigate the options.

    Don’t say you weren’t warned.

  24. Doug gets it. This is a total disaster for Australia.

    “Doug Cameron@DougCameron51
    Just the start!
    In my wildest dreams I never contemplated the ALP would be propping up the UK military nuclear programme and the US military/ industrial complex.
    The more we learn, the more this looks like a monumental mistake.
    There are bigger priorities!”

  25. C@tmomma @ #78 Friday, March 22nd, 2024 – 9:39 am

    In joint statements with Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy, Mr Marles outlines plans for a Skills and Training Academy at Osborne, including overseas placements in the US for vocational teachers to learn nuclear-powered submarine skills in a “train-the-trainer” scheme.

    Join now! Every participant gets a free can of Brasso and a polishing cloth!

  26. More garbage in, garbage out from Irene. Reading her posts you would think that Australia didn’t have a Trillion $ + economy, hence the amount being sent to the UK will cripple the Budget and if only it were not to be spent then all the domestic problems could be solved. To which I will add that the only country that would benefit from our country failing to spend that money, starts with C and ends with a.

    Also, there is zero recognition of the facts of the matter by Irene that the money which is going to the US and the UK is going there initially to train the trainers and the Australians who will be returning here with the new, specialised skills required to build and maintain the new SSN AUKUS Class subs. As such, it is a relatively modest sum to pay to get the ROI that will be in the tens, if not hundreds of billions coming into the Australian economy in the decades to come.

    Myopic comments like Irene’s are simply unable to see the bigger picture in a rational and informed way.

  27. “ What this shows is that, contrary to negative speculation about crews and jobs, that the federal government is making careful plans and provisions for the program that will cement the industry and the RAN in place on solid ground into the latter decades of the century.”

    More nonsense from OHFUCKUS Pollyanna Jane.

    The announce-able doesn’t even cover a tenth of the projected job losses accompanied by the cancellation of the Attack Class program for the ten years from 2022 to 2032.

  28. “ As such, it is a relatively modest sum to pay to get the ROI that will be in the tens, if not hundreds of billions coming into the Australian economy in the decades to come.”

    Oh, for fuck sake – the ‘relatively modest sum’ when combined with the waste from the gift to America defence giants, plus the wasteful Collins life extension program would by themselves pay for a entire replacement fleet for the Collins class – maybe even, as outline in a previous post, including a couple of nuclear powered boats – you known the most modern and effective nuclear submarines actually in service around the world. …

  29. “ Myopic comments like Irene’s…”

    Pot. Kettle. Much?

    Edited. OK, that’s enough. I am dead to C@t. I want to keep it that way. Andrew out.

  30. I posted this late last night in previous thread. So there is a possibility that quite a few could have missed it.

    CBS news

    1 in 2 Millennials and Gen Z voters are willing to vote for Trump.

    Below is a poll about happiness among various age groups in USA. May be it is some what applicable to Australian people.

    Democrats and President Biden voters report more happiness than GOP and Trump supporters, poll found

    https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/democrats-and-president-biden-voters-report-more-happiness-than-gop-and-trump-supporters-poll-found/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17110216988836&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fmiami%2Fnews%2Fdemocrats-and-president-biden-voters-report-more-happiness-than-gop-and-trump-supporters-poll-found%2F

    “When it comes to happiness, Democratic voters and President Joe Biden appear to be happier than Republican voters and former President Donald Trump.

    That’s according to a new Florida Atlantic University PolCom and Mainstreet Research happiness poll released in advance of the United Nations’ International Day of Happiness on March 20.

    The university’s Happiness Thermometer poll used five items designed to assess overall happiness.

    “Through its application in the poll, the thermometer measures connections between happiness and politics, revealing measurable differences in happiness among age and economic groups, as well as party affiliation and voter intention,” according to a statement from FAU.

    According to the poll findings, 69 percent of Democratic voters reported they’re at least “slightly satisfied” with their lives compared to 66 percent of Republican voters who said the same. Among voters who would vote for Biden in 2024, 75 percent answered that they were at least “slightly satisfied” with their lives, while 62 percent of Trump voters said the same.

    “Happiness is important to understand as it influences the well-being and satisfaction of citizens, which in turn shapes their voting behavior,” said Carol Bishop Mills, Ph.D., FAU’s communication professor, PolCom co-director, and expert in relational communication.

    The poll also found that while people were happy overall, older and wealthier adult voters are happier than younger and less wealthy ones.

    While two-thirds of respondents said respondents expressed satisfaction with their lives, 89 percent of people over 65 and nearly 67 percent of people ages 50 to 64 reported being “happy.”

    “”Roughly 56 percent of younger respondents 18 to 34 (millennials and Generation Z) indicated that they were ‘dissatisfied’ with their lives, and only 21 percent of this age group indicated that they were ‘extremely satisfied’ or ‘satisfied.’ According to the poll, 49 percent voted Democrat in the 2020 presidential election and 42 percent voted Republican,” according to the university.

    As we head into the 2024 presidential election, that voting trend appears to be reversing itself.

    Fifty-four percent of likely millennial and Gen Z voters indicated they would vote for Trump, while only 37 percent reported they’d vote for Biden. Among all voters in this age group, 50 percent indicated they would vote for Trump and 34 percent indicated they would vote for Biden.”

  31. Joe Biden is in the midst of his best run of polling in some time. 6 post-State Of The Union polls show him with leads: (all via 538):

    44-43 Economist/YouGov (new since yesterday)

    47-45 FAU/Mainstreet

    44-43 Morning Consult (March 9-11)

    46-45 Public Policy Research

    50-48 Ipsos/Reuters

    45-44 Civiqs

    And 3 more had him with leads prior to the State Of The Union:

    47-44 Kaiser Family Foundation

    51-49 Emerson

    43-42 TIPP

    The Economist poll average continues to have Biden 1 point ahead of Trump

    https://youtu.be/1pCTQxrO6A0?si=UJm3ONvoSzA86OzB

  32. “The Economist poll average continues to have Biden 1 point ahead of Trump”

    Which is probably two points behind where he needs to be to convert a win in the national vote to securing the electoral college. …

  33. Been there and TPOF (and anyone else who believes criticism of particular union activities equals Wrong Thought)

    I recall, as a younger person, sitting in a Labor Party meeting as a senior member and senior union official argued Labor had to adopt a more right wing approach to immigration because a large proportion of the members of his union voted for One Nation.

    I stayed silent.

    That person sits in parliament now.

    I remember a State conference at which a union secretary argued in favour of uranium mining.

    Again I was silent.

    That person sits in parliament now.

    Were they representing their members’ interests? On one reading, yes they were. On others readings, I dare say they weren’t.

    I don’t believe that being a unionist means refraining from criticising the positions that sometimes some unions adopt. Or avoiding criticising actual corruption if it occurs.

    Indeed, I think it’s critical that such criticism occurs.

    I also think the ban on secondary boycotts is a straight jacket on the union movement that ought to be abolished, so that unions can again pursue protests on causes that are in the broader interests of workers as a class, not just members in a sector.

  34. The ban on secondary boycotts is a ban on explicit extortion and standover rackets.
    Unions run elections that would make Putin blush.
    This question needs to be asked:
    “”If the Unions own the ALP, who owns the Unions?””

  35. Let’s unpack what is a ‘secondary boycott’ and who does it benefit if they are banned?

    In November 2019, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said that he is working with his AttorneyGeneral, Christian Porter, to identify mechanisms that can be used to “outlaw”
    environmental groups “targeting businesses and firms who provide goods or services to
    firms they don’t like”, what Morrison called “secondary boycotts”.
    The Government is yet to announce the details of their plan, but they have said that they
    are urgently looking into multiple options across portfolios. Porter says they are planning
    “tranches” of changes. One option is likely to be expanding the laws against secondary
    boycotts in the Competition and Consumer Act (formerly the Trade Practices Act), perhaps
    by removing exceptions for environmental or consumer protection, the general protection
    for consumer boycotts and/or removing the requirement that a secondary boycott be “in
    concert” between two parties. The government may instead, or also, introduce new
    offences separate to the secondary boycott laws.

    Minister for Small Business John Howard introduced secondary boycott provisions in the
    Trade Practices Act in 1977. They have been contested ever since. The provisions are in
    violation of labour conventions that Australia has signed; they are a limitation on the right
    to strike. Even the term “secondary boycott” is misleading, because the laws prohibit
    conduct that does not involve a boycott.

    Being free to withdraw your custom (in the case of customers) or labour (in the case of
    workers) would often be considered a fundamental right in a liberal democracy. There are
    compelling reasons for secondary boycotts to be permitted:

     Sometimes there is no way to reach a perceived wrongdoer except through another
    party.
     Parties that deal with wrongdoers are not blameless, so it is not unreasonable for
    them to face consequences for doing so.
     Consumers and workers have a right to deal with whom they want.
     The Australian Constitution has an implied freedom of political communication that
    may be breached if secondary boycott laws are expanded.
     Secondary boycotts are a useful form of solidarity tactics that allow workers to
    coordinate, win better conditions and bargain across an industry.
     Australia’s secondary boycott ban does not conform with international conventions
    that Australia has signed.

    https://australiainstitute.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/P827-Secondary-boycotts-WEB.pdf

    So, all this palaver about who owns the ALP and who owns the unions, is simply persiflage to create smoke and mirrors around what the intent of reintroducing secondary boycott laws would be.

  36. From: https://michaelwest.com.au/duttons-aukus-albanese-wedge/

    The story behind Albanese’s support for AUKUS and his or the LNP future support for an Australian nuclear power industry. From Rex Patrick.

    Albanese, by agreeing to Morrison’s AUKUS plan, which Morrison might have lost the election partly on in May 2022, may have to agree with Duttons push for Nuclear Power.

    ‘On 15 September 2021, then Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese was given a private briefing by the Morrison Government on Scott Morrison’s plans to announce, the following day, a joint program with the United States and United Kingdom to acquire nuclear powered submarines.

    Albanese, eager to be Australia’s 31st Prime Minister and running a small target political strategy, agreed to give Morrison’s program his unequivocal support. It may have been politically astute but it is clearly now an irresponsible thing to have agreed to – albeit as many would say understandable, as he was only given 24 hours to consider the matter.

    There was no analysis of costs, no Defence capability mix analysis, no risk analysis, and apart from rushed conversations with Richard Marles and Penny Wong, no consultation with his colleagues. Labor’s parliamentary caucus was kept in the dark.
    But Albanese’s decision was not about what was good for Australia, it was about what was good for votes.

    It was all about politics and he wasn’t going to have any debate or dissent. Disagreement would have put a big “weak on national security’ target on his back. He didn’t need that. Politics first and nothing else.

    Sign up to the Deal
    Things got worse after Anthony Albanese became Prime Minister. Just over a year ago he stood alongside US President Joe Biden and UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak at what Paul Keating referred to as the San Diego Kabuki show.

    Defence had spent $139.2 million in taxpayers’ dollars over the proceeding 18 months studying the AUKUS concept. On 14 March 2023 Albanese signed up to a deal that has committed $368B of public money, undermined strategic independence and sovereignty, cancelled other much needed Defence capability, given an initial $10B investment commitment to the UK and US submarine industrial base without a guaranteed return, and effectively postponed a submarine build in Australia for the next decade and a half.

    In the last few months, we’ve seen a bill introduced into the Parliament by the Labor Government that legalises the acceptance of nuclear waste from the UK and US, and provides the Government with the power to nominate any place in Australia as a nuclear waste site, with no requirement to consult with local communities or other interested groups.

    It is stupid – all driven by Albanese’s initial politically fearful calculation and his ongoing belief that he must remained politically tied to the AUKUS periscope.

    Radioactive politics
    One of the consequences of Albanese’s embarkation on the AUKUS submarine pathway is that it’s snookered him against criticising Peter Dutton as he proposes a Liberal Party’s nuclear power climate change solution.

    Costs
    Building a number of power reactors will be very costly. But so too is the tab for 8 naval reactors.

    Dutton can correctly point out that there are no countries that operate naval reactors (US, UK, France, China, Russia, Brazil and India) that don’t have power reactors. ‘

    Read more on link provided.

  37. C@tmomma

    Because I was young and intimidated and, so far as the State conference was concerned, a volunteer not a delegate.

  38. US Presidential battleground state polls released by Emerson today have Trump and Biden tied 50-50 in Michigan and Trump leading 52-48 in Wisconsin.

    Somewhat good news for Biden, starting to catch up in Michigan at least.

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