Dunkley by-election live

Live coverage of the count for the Dunkley by-election.

Projected ALP swing Projected TCP ALP win probability

Monday night

Labor had slightly the better of a second batch of postals, breaking 2945-2908 in their favour on two-candidate preferred, after those counted on election night went 4118-3721 to the Liberals.

Sunday night

Today’s counting consisted of rechecking and the addition of 338 formal votes from special hospital teams and electronic assisted voting. Of note in the former case was the correction in the Langwarrin booth that had inflated the Liberal swing there from 5.0% to 11.1% on two-party and from 7.6% to 13.7% on the primary vote. The latter figure was cited by News Corp’s James Campbell as evidence the Liberals had done better in the “richer, Tealier part of the electorate”. A similar argument by in a jointly written column for the Financial Review by Tim Wilson and Jason Falinksi, who lost their seats to teals in 2022, hangs on the slender thread of the Mount Eliza North booth — the one that gave the Liberals false hope when it was the first to report on Saturday, and which turns out to have had the biggest Liberal swing. Left unmentioned is that the other three election day booths in Mount Eliza, which each had two to three times more votes cast at them than Mount Eliza North, recorded below par swings of 1.0% to 1.6% (each of the electorate’s three pre-poll centres, including the one in Mount Eliza, swung by 4% to 5%). In point of fact, a geographical pattern to the results is difficult to discern.

End of Saturday night

The 3.9% two-party swing currently recorded against Labor in Dunkley can only be described as unremarkable. It is worse than the 1.3% average for first-term governments out of the twelve previous contested by-elections going back to 1983, but that includes some notable successes for governments in the first-flush of their honeymoons, including the 6.4% swing to Labor in Aston last year. All but two of the twelve were conducted in the government’s first year in office: in the two that weren’t, there were anti-government swings of 2.7% (last year’s Fadden by-election) and 6.1% (the Canning by-election in 2015, held days after Tony Abbott was deposed by Malcolm Turnbull). Another minor contingency is that Labor did badly out of the ballot paper draw, with the Liberal in first position and Labor last, whereas Peta Murphy was second behind an independent in 2022.

Evidence that by-elections caused by deaths are easier on the incumbent party than those caused by resignations seems to me rather thin. The average 4.8% swing in seats at by-elections caused by the deaths of government members calculated by The Australian is, by my reckoning, actually slightly higher than an overall 4.2% average in government-held seats over the same period. A linear regression analysis I conducted testing for death, disqualification, first-year and first-term effects going back to 1972 turned up no statistically significant evidence for any of them.

The Liberals’ 6.7% gain on the primary vote likely reflected reduced options for right-of-centre voters, with 7.9% up for grabs from the absent United Australia Party and One Nation. The other right contenders, independent Darren Bergwerf and the Libertarian Party (then the Liberal Democrats), were also in the field last time, and respectively made up a little ground and no ground. Conversely, the entry of Victorian Socialists meant there was more competition for the left-of-centre vote, although their 1.7% only partly accounted for a 3.8% drop in support for the Greens. Animal Justice gained 1.0%, and it seems likely Labor was able to hold level on the primary vote through net gains from the Greens that balanced out net losses to the Liberals.

Talk of a danger to Labor from apathy-driven low turnout does not seem to have been borne out. The votes of 74.2% of the enrolled voters have been counted, already in excess of the 72.5% at the Fadden by-election of last year, and likely to reach 81% after around 12,000 outstanding postals are processed. However, this will still leave it short of the 85.6% in Aston.

Election night commentary

10.34pm. The final result for the night is a 4.0% TCP swing to the Liberals from the Carrum Downs PPVC.

10.08pm. Frankston PPVC TCP result swings 4.5% to Liberal, compared with an election day swing of 3.3% and an existing Labor margin of 6.2%. Only the Carrum Downs PPVC remains to report for the night on TCP.

9.24pm. All election day booths are in on primary and TCP, leaving only the TCP counts for two of the three pre-poll centres, the results of which are easy to broadly predict. All but a fraction of the outstanding vote will consist of perhaps 15,000 postals, of which the Liberals would need about 64%, as compared with 53% from the postals already counted.

8.50pm. Carrum Downs PPVC also yields unremarkable numbers on the primary vote, and my Labor win probability now says 100%.

8.45pm. Frankston PPVC has reported on the primary vote, producing swings almost identical to election day. Nonetheless, the ALP RETAIN call is almost retracted: probability now 0.9902938.

8.42pm. There was apparently a second batch of postals – I had been assuming there would only be one for the night. David Speers says Labor is calling it. Perhaps they’re reading my blog. More likely they know what’s coming in the unreported PPVCs.

8.41pm. For what it’s worth, my Labor win probability has ticked over to 0.9920559, beyond the 0.99 at which my database starts saying “ALP RETAIN”.

8.40pm. Still nothing from the Carrum Downs (12,957 votes cast) and Frankston (12,468) pre-poll voting centres, which are the outstanding points of interest for the night’s count. Labor doing very slightly better on preferences than 2022, with two factors cancelling out: the absence of One Nation and the United Australia Party on the one hand, and the slump in the Greens on the other. With the overall major party vote up 7.6%, it has also mattered less, Labor’s likely win being built on a primary vote lead.

8.08pm. The night’s postal count is likewise a bit better for the Liberals than election day votes, but the 5.9% swing is below what the Liberals would have needed overall. Probability estimate now at 97.0% — I call it at 99%.

8.05pm. The Mount Eliza pre-poll booth is in sooner than I thought — very slightly better for the Liberals than the election day vote, but not enough to change the underlying metric. Another PPVC to back that up is likely to result in my system calling it for Labor.

7.57pm. What I expect over the next hour or so is the outstanding election day booths to report without changing the projection much. The next really interesting data point will be the first pre-poll voting centre that reports, which may or may not show a decisively different dynamic on the early vote. One of the three PPVCs, Mount Eliza, received a relatively modest 4503 votes and probably won’t take too long – I would estimate a bit after 9pm, but these things can be highly variable.

7.51pm. And now the ABC projection is stronger for Labor than mine. I think I may have been wrong in the previous update — this looks like it’s based on booth-matching of the TCP results, and not based on projections of the final primary vote and preference flows as mine are.

7.49pm. As noted, a weak result for the Greens. My “projected primary vote” bar chart records a candidate separately from “others” if they are projected to clear 6% — the Greens are poking around this level, causing their bar to disappear and reappear.

7.47pm. David Speers just cited a 3.3% swing, which would be based entirely on the two-candidate preferred count. My estimate further factors in the booths with primary votes in only — ten as compared with twenty — and has it a bit over 4%. The ABC projections being cited by Antony Green are doing something similar.

7.46pm. Twenty booths now in on the primary vote – over half the election day booths – and the projected two-party swing is settling at a bit over 4%, compared with the 6.3% the Liberals need to win.

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7.41pm. Now it’s down to 86% Labor win probability, and the projected swing of 4.2% is now almost exactly the same as the ABC’s.

7.39pm. Further booths — now 15 on the primary vote — leave my Labor win probability estimate in the low nineties, suggesting the most recent results have been a bit below par for them.

7.34pm. Leaving my projections aside, it’s not disputed that the swings point to a 3.9% improvement for the Liberals in terms of their primary vote as compared with Labor’s, which does not suggest they will win.

7.29pm. The projection is now based on the swing in preference flows rather than my pre-determined educated guesses of how preferences will flow, and this has in fact given Labor a further boost. My system is more bullish for Labor than the ABC’s, which I’m a bit nervous about.

7.25pm. My projection is still based on preference estimates, but based on the TCP results that are in to this point, this appear to have been highly accurate. Nonetheless, my projection of the final TCP is about 1% strong for Labor than the ABC’s.

7.22pm. And I must again stress a potential weak link in the probability estimate, which is that it doesn’t account for the potential for a very different dynamic on early reporting election day and later-reporting pre-poll votes, which have been known to happen. For such reasons do I not call the result until it reaches 99%.

7.20pm. With nine booths in on primary and three on TCP, we’re past the point where I can follow which of the newly reporting booths weren’t in already. The most recent result was clearly a less good one for Labor, checking what had been their steady progress on the probability estimate.

7.16pm. Seaford North is the sixth booth in on the primary vote, and it’s swung very modest. My Labor win probability continues creeping up, now at 72%, though still well short of where you would call it.

7.14pm. Also a big drop for the Greens, who often struggle at by-elections, but perhaps not by this much.

7.13pm. Frankston Heights East now in on, I think, both primary and TCP — big 10.9% on Liberal primary vote, but Labor almost steady and 5.1% swing on TCP. Likely dynamic is that Hanson and Palmer votes who were preferencing Liberal anyway are shifting to them on the primary vote, neither being in the contest this time.

7.12pm. Second TCP result is Carrum Downs West, with a swing of about 1.5% to Liberal. A big unknown over the next two hours or so will be whether pre-polls have a different dynamic from election day results — we likely won’t see those results until about 10pm.

7.07pm. The fourth booth on the primary vote, Mount Eliza Central, is comfortably Labor’s best so far, looking like a swing in their favour on TCP — a stark contrast with nearby Mount Eliza North.

7.02pm. The ABC’s projections gel with my own, which is always reassuring from my perspective.

7.01pm. My Informal column seems to be working now, so the problem there may have been on the AEC’s side.

6.58pm. Labor’s bad Mount Eliza North result in on two-candidate preferred, a clean 10.0% swing to Liberal. That suggests a better preference flow for Labor than I was estimating, so their win probability nudges up from 50.6% to 53.0%.

6.56pm. The next two booths, Carrum Downs West and Frankston Heights East, are less bad for Labor — projection now down to the wire.

6.50pm. My system is working, except seemingly for the Informal column of the booth results table.

6.48pm. The first booth in is Mount Eliza North, and while it’s only 579 votes, I have the swing north of what the Liberals need to win, based on preference estimates.

6.28pm. An explainer of the map at the bottom of the results page. At the moment all booth locations are indicated by white dots. When the booth reports on the primary vote, it will change colour to indicate the party that “won” the primary vote there. When it reports on two-candidate preferred, the dot will be replaced by a number indicating the two-candidate preferred result there, colour-coded according to the winning party.

6.18pm. Something to consider while you wait is the electoral geography of Dunkley, which can be observed through the 2022 booth results map at the bottom of the Poll Bludger’s by-election guide. Far the strongest part of the electorate for the Liberals is affluent Mount Eliza at the southern end; Labor is strongest at the northern bayside end and Carrum Downs further inland, and somewhat weaker at Langwarrin at the southern inland end.

6pm. Polls have closed. The link at the top should be operable now and, God willing, the three charts above recording the projected swing (which uses estimates of the final primary vote shares and preference flows, based on the currently available information), the final projected two-candidate preferred result (which is the 2022 result plus the projected swing) and a calculation of the incumbent party’s (in this case Labor) probability of winning the seat based on the the projected TCP and the proportion of the expected total vote that has been counted.

5.40pm. With twenty minutes to go before polls close, welcome to the Poll Bludger’s coverage of the Dunkley by-election count. After 6pm, you will find through the above link live updated results, including full booth details in both tabular and map display (click on the button at the bottom of the page for the latter) and swing-based projections and probability estimates. The main chart displays on the top right will also be shown at the top of this post, if all goes well. This post will offer live commentary as the results come through, the first of which I imagine will be in a bit before 7pm.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Let’s hope that Dunkley will reject the racism and policy void from the far-right Liberal Party and Australia can continue to build for a progressive future with Labor.

    We don’t need another lost decade under Dutton.

  2. PB Tally Board, the TAB has settled:

    * FUBAR 52-48 ALP
    * MIDDLE AGED BALDING WHITE MAN 52-48 ALP
    * DAMO 51-49 ALP
    * VEN – Libs.
    * BOERWAR – Cats whisker to the ALP 50.01
    * SCOTT – 58-42 ALP
    * Dr.D 55-45 ALP
    * PIED PIPER – ALP
    * Nadia88 51.5 ALP
    * ASHA 52 ALP
    * GRANT EX LIBRIS 50.5 ALP
    * KRUSCICA 54 ALP
    * MEHER BABA 50-50 ALP JUST
    * MOSTLY INTERESTED 50-50, WITH UP TO 600 VOTES DECIDING EITHER WAY
    * NATH 54 ALP
    * TERMINATOR 50.5 ALP
    * SOC 51 ALP
    * DANDY MURRAY 51.75 ALP
    * MELBMAMMOTH 50-50 (WITH MARGIN OF 500 DECIDING EITHER WAY)
    * LARS VON TRIER 52.75 ALP
    * DEM-SNAG LIBS 52
    * OUT OF SORTS 50.5 LIBS {Gosh, second post today for the Libs. Late swing, TAB is still settling}
    * MUNDO 53 LIBS
    * REWI 53 ALP
    * BK 50.9 ALP {CATS WHISKER PLUS }
    * DOGS BRINCH 50-50 {LABOR BY UNDER 300}
    * TEAM KAT 51 (GATHER IT’S ALP, NOT SURE BY YOUR POST AT 10.33)
    * GRANNY ANNY – ALP
    * GOLL – no pick ,but election should be over by about 8PM
    * REX 53 ALP
    * FREDNK ALP 57% {swing to the ALP like Scott above}
    * ALPHA ZERO ALP 52
    * WAT TYLER 51.9 ALP
    * AJM – ALP

    Hope i got this right. You can self correct via a post.
    Gosh, I feel like doing some “nervous ironing”, or something. Last 10 minutes before the voting stops.

  3. Cost-of-living concerns and the standard by-election effect are up against Dutton and Ley making complete twits of themselves and Melbourne being Melbourne.

    My very uninformed prediction is that will all tally up to around 52-48 to the good guys.

  4. My final prediction is 53 ALP 47 LIB. The final day of prepoll makes low turnout seem like much less of an issue than previously thought, but time will tell.

  5. nadia88 @ #2 Saturday, March 2nd, 2024 – 5:47 pm

    PB Tally Board, the TAB has settled:

    * FUBAR 52-48 ALP
    * MIDDLE AGED BALDING WHITE MAN 52-48 ALP
    * DAMO 51-49 ALP
    * VEN – Libs.
    * BOERWAR – Cats whisker to the ALP 50.01
    * SCOTT – 58-42 ALP
    * Dr.D 55-45 ALP
    * PIED PIPER – ALP
    * Nadia88 51.5 ALP
    * ASHA 52 ALP
    * GRANT EX LIBRIS 50.5 ALP
    * KRUSCICA 54 ALP
    * MEHER BABA 50-50 ALP JUST
    * MOSTLY INTERESTED 50-50, WITH UP TO 600 VOTES DECIDING EITHER WAY
    * NATH 54 ALP
    * TERMINATOR 50.5 ALP
    * SOC 51 ALP
    * DANDY MURRAY 51.75 ALP
    * MELBMAMMOTH 50-50 (WITH MARGIN OF 500 DECIDING EITHER WAY)
    * LARS VON TRIER 52.75 ALP
    * DEM-SNAG LIBS 52
    * OUT OF SORTS 50.5 LIBS {Gosh, second post today for the Libs. Late swing, TAB is still settling}
    * MUNDO 53 LIBS
    * REWI 53 ALP
    * BK 50.9 ALP {CATS WHISKER PLUS }
    * DOGS BRINCH 50-50 {LABOR BY UNDER 300}
    * TEAM KAT 51 (GATHER IT’S ALP, NOT SURE BY YOUR POST AT 10.33)
    * GRANNY ANNY – ALP
    * GOLL – no pick ,but election should be over by about 8PM
    * REX 53 ALP
    * FREDNK ALP 57% {swing to the ALP like Scott above}
    * ALPHA ZERO ALP 52
    * WAT TYLER 51.9 ALP

    Hope i got this right. You can self correct via a post.
    Gosh, I feel like doing some “nervous ironing”, or something. Last 10 minutes before the voting stops.

    51.8- 48.2 to Labor

  6. Gsays:
    Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:20 pm
    @nadia88
    Antony Green reporting that postals are being counted tonight. Prepolls are being counted too.
    ==============================
    Thanks G. Glad they’re doing postals tonight. Should have a result.

  7. Dutton has put more distance between his presence on the ground and the result ( a couple of days) than Albo who was there this morning.

    Make of that what you will but watch what they do, not what they say.

  8. bob @ #1 Saturday, March 2nd, 2024 – 5:43 pm

    Let’s hope that Dunkley will reject the racism and policy void from the far-right Liberal Party and Australia can continue to build for a progressive future with Labor.

    We don’t need another lost decade under Dutton.

    Yes, I often wonder why voters can’t see through it?

    Oh, and I don’t usually like making predictions, but for nadia’s sake I’ll go with 52.1 Labor to 47.9 Liberal. The Labor candidate, for mine, gives off not foreman material vibes. I think she’d be better off in state parliament. But that’s looking at her from a long way away.

    Of course I hope she wins.

  9. For those with a strong stomach SkyNoos has a Dunkley poll coverage but I will still have a look at the ABC24. My prediction 51/49 to ALP

  10. my guess for when the by-election winner is starting to be obvious

    If the liberal party primary vote is below 36% , around 7:15 pm

    Labor retains Dunkley

  11. Alpha Time:

    Is how long for Sky to call the election for Labor, or how long until someone suggests that the Liberals lost because Dutton was pandering to woke lefties?

  12. Asha ,
    the actual election results trends show
    even in individual seat
    Liberal party rarely are competitive with primary vote in the mid 30’s or below

  13. I’m tipping 54 ALP on the back of strong sentiment towards the late Peta Murphy and her chosen successor as well as general disdain for Dutton.

  14. Team Katichsays:
    Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:36 pm
    Vic Libs generally do well in postals, yeah? Seem to remember them clawing back largish margins in recent elections.
    ============================
    According to an earlier poster, apparently the postals will be counted tonight. Just awaiting confirmation off WB or AG.
    Traditionally the postals favoured the LNP, but just checking back to the Aston by-election, they actually favoured Labor 50.21 2PP split.
    I refer to Aston, because it was a ” well past” Covid by-election. The 2022 Fed Election was still held in the shadows of Covid and the postals did favour the ALP. Hat tip Dr.D

  15. From the open thread:

    I think the result in Dunkley will be very similar to the general election result.

    National polls have not changed much since then and the reason for the by election is not an issue such as a resignation in disgrace.

    All the prognostications about by election swings are to my mind about as convincing as the entrails of a chicken they leave so many potential factors out. Also, the LNP “outer suburbs” strategy is no more than a marketing slogan.

  16. As a rough guide, here are the polling places and their expected ordinary votes. The more you head down the list, the slightly longer the (theoretical) return may take.

    Nothing will be super fast, as it does take some time to make sure formality, particularly with 8 candidates, is correct.

    PPName OrdVoteEst
    Carrum Downs West 458
    Mount Eliza Central 767
    Karingal Central 816
    Mount Eliza North 840
    Frankston Rail 844
    Seaford North 1159
    Skye 1162
    Mount Eliza West 1171
    Frankston Heights 1222
    Frankston North 1236
    Mount Eliza 1239
    Frankston Central 1271
    Mount Eliza South 1273
    Frankston South West 1293
    Seaford 1301
    Seaford South 1333
    Karingal Heights 1359
    Frankston East 1381
    Carrum Downs South 1390
    Langwarrin North 1439
    Frankston South 1475
    Carrum Downs 1548
    Karingal 1594
    Frankston Heights East 1667
    Langwarrin Central 1693
    Seaford East 1729
    Frankston South East 1817
    Carrum Downs Central 1908
    Langwarrin Park 1983
    Frankston 2228
    Carrum Downs North 2235
    Langwarrin 2460

    [ https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/cea-notices/election-pp.htm – All polling places]

  17. Note for Boerwar:

    1) Note Dr Bonham’s considered opinion from his Dunkley count intro (link above):

    “As usual there will be people on social media whinging about the turnout but the final turnout is not known for about two weeks, and turnout should be a complete non-issue in this result.”

    2) More info on Prof James Belich, who is now at Oxford, at:

    https://www.read-nz.org/writers-files/writer/belich-james

    https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/11/21/the-return-of-james-belich/

    His book on NZ Wars is available from World of Books for $20:

    https://www.wob.com/en-au/books/james-belich/new-zealand-wars/9780140111620?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=1425764760&cq_con=56701207380&cq_med=&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIofuzvYXVhAMVEtIWBR3GtwA9EAMYASAAEgLdivD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

  18. My prediction is ALP 52% Libs 48%.

    The booths i’m watching are in Langwarrin and Karingal and the Bruce Park area of Frankston East because these booths supported Bruce Billson but have since swung to the ALP.

  19. Rex Douglas says:
    Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 5:47 pm
    Yes. For five more weeks

    Fcken ridiculous.

    I’d abolish it altogether, but if it must continue, just have it for the summer school holiday period and that’s it.
    ========================
    Move up to QLD Rex. None of that going on up here Sir!
    Still daylight here in Brissy, & sun is setting. Pitch black by about 6.35Pm QLD time.

  20. I’m not making a prediction, let the by-election results be what they are.

    But I’ll be disappointed if voters buy into the racist dog whistling of the coalition the past few days.

  21. Appreciate the invitation Nadia, but I like the cold and I don’t play the banjo and I’m not yet of pension age.

  22. Rex Douglas:

    Move to Brisbane. It gets really bloody cold in winter, our summers are generally more mild than in the southern cities, and there isn’t a banjo player to be found.

  23. First votes in. Gosh, no rural booths where you have 15 out of 17 voters voting LNP. I think the Libs are going to win this.

  24. Asha

    Re: Mt ‘Liza swing. Not really surprised given their demographics but still somewhat of a concern. Fair bit of ‘new money’ in the area so COL + private school fees could be hitting the hip pocket nerve. They would have no interest in the upgrade of the Frankston to Stony Point line.

  25. ‘Let’s hope that Dunkley will reject the racism and policy void from the far-right Liberal Party and Australia can continue to build for a progressive future with Labor.’
    .
    The last time I checked Dunkley was full of Strayans. Hope ain’t gonna do it I’m afraid.

  26. The Morn Pen and Frankston area has quite a few English and NZ expats around Mt Eliza, Mt Martha (in the seat of Flinders) and further down the line.

    Very WASP’ish although there are pockets of Indian and Asian families calling the area home. Quite a few Italians as well.

  27. Big swing to Libs in Frankston Heights East would send a worry through the ALP camp but only a small drop in the ALP vote and they probably win the TPP.

    AJP is enjoying small swings.

  28. Premature exultation from Jane Hume:

    “I don’t think we’re ready to call it on one booth but I can tell you there’s a lot of excited people behind me. It is noisy.”

    (Guardian blog)

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