Miscellany: SEC Newgate and electoral law reform (open thread)

A fall in the federal government’s performance meeting, plus three recent arguments for electoral reform of one kind or another.

We’re now in week seven of the Newspoll drought, but that does not come as a surprise this week as the budget will be brought down tomorrow, and a poll will assuredly follow in its wake. We did have from The Australian on Friday results from an SEC Newgate Research on Friday which found the federal government’s overall performance rated as excellent by 3%, very good by 9%, good by 26%, fair by 35%, poor by 16% and very poor by 10%. This marked a nine-point drop in the combined excellent, very good and good result since the question was last asked in August. However, the party’s lead over the Coalition as best to manage cost-of-living was little changed over the same period, from 38-24 to 40-24. Ratings for state governments were down across the board, which likely reflects an unwinding of strong results for governments across the board during the pandemic. Some of the results from the poll, but not those above, can be found on the organisation’s website. It was conducted from October 5 to 10 from a sample of 1200.

Food for thought:

• Constitutional law expert George Williams calls for the voting age to be lowered to 16 in a column for The Australian.

Joo-Cheong Tham of the University of Melbourne law school argues for the franchise to be extended to permanent residents and long-term visa holders.

• Digital Rights Watch calls for the removal of exemptions for political party voter databases from privacy laws in light of the recent Optus hack.

• The Centre for Public Integrity calls for campaign spending caps, after its submission to the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters inquiry into the federal election analysed the increase in spending over the past decade.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Annual inflation

    Turkey: 83.4%
    Argentina: 83%
    Netherlands: 14.5%
    Russia: 13.7%
    Italy: 11.9%
    Germany: 10.4%
    UK: 10.1%
    US: 8.2%
    South Africa: 7.5%
    India: 7.4%
    Australia: 7.3%
    Brazil: 7.1%
    Canada: 6.9%
    France: 6.2%
    Indonesia: 5.9%
    S Korea: 5.6%
    Saudi: 3.1%
    Japan: 3%
    China: 2.8%

  2. What’s the lowest T20 score? The Netherlands appear to probably make that record this afternoon in Perth. A few overs ago it was hoped they could reach 100, now they will be lucky to reach 90.

  3. Ven,
    With 2-5 – 3 years until the next election the most significant polls are those in the US. Everything else is just fluff.

  4. south says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 7:39 pm
    Ven,
    With 2-5 – 3 years until the next election the most significant polls are those in the US. Everything else is just fluff.
    中华人民共和国
    Like the stuff that gets in my belly button.

  5. ‘Ven says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 7:37 pm


    Boerwarsays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 7:12 pm
    PvO has just gone ‘Wow!’

    Should we be worried?’
    ====================
    I will have to out myself here. Think of it as Newspollschmerz.

  6. Upnorth

    Thanks (we do the same with Oneworld), we’ll keep a keen eye on things.
    I recall premium back in my very busy working travelling schedule, those were the days.

  7. “ Most of The Australian Financial Review readers supported Treasurer Jim Chalmers’ first budget, handed down last Tuesday, with 48 per cent labelling it either “good” or “very good”. Thirty-three per cent believed it was neither good nor bad, while 16 per cent thought it was bad or worse. They largely supported the budget’s lack of measures to substantially help with cost of living pressures, with three-fifths saying any policy doing this would worsen inflation and one-fifth saying such support was unaffordable given the deficit.”

    Paywalled https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/afr-readers-okay-with-absence-of-handouts-in-federal-budget-20221030-p5bu45

  8. “Respondents also largely did not blame the government for the fact power prices were predicted to raise by 56 per cent over this financial year and next despite Labor promising to reduce bills by $275 by 2025. Forty-five per cent said the government could not control power prices so this contradiction was not a serious breach of trust, while 18 per cent said that prices either could or would fall beneath this estimate by 2025.”

    Paywalled https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/afr-readers-okay-with-absence-of-handouts-in-federal-budget-20221030-p5bu45

  9. Most of The Australian Financial Review readers supported Treasurer Jim Chalmers first budget

    Well of course they did. It was a neo-con budget, after all.

  10. What do you think the consequences for Australia be if, as expected, Republicans win both houses of congress and Trump is elected to a second term in 2024?

    Presumably Albanese will still be Prime Minister but how would it affect Dutton’s chances and strategy?

  11. The Coalition showing their compassionate side.

    ‘Full responsibility’: Michaelia Cash challenges Labor on security after repatriation of families from Syria

    Government says process was informed by national security advice, individual assessments and detailed work by security agencies

    Cash, now the shadow workplace relations minister, told Sky News it was “fundamental” that the government “must always do [what] is in the national interest and in the best interests of Australians”.

    “These people understood [when they left Australia], they made a decision and the decision would have consequences.”

    Cash called on the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, to explain what checks had been undertaken and “what security measures are they now putting in place to ensure that at all times … Australians are kept safe”.

    “These are people who have been living in a situation whereby they have associated with people who hate Australia.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/30/full-responsibility-michaelia-cash-challenges-labor-on-security-after-repatriation-of-families-from-syria

  12. Rex Douglas says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:13 pm
    Most of The Australian Financial Review readers supported Treasurer Jim Chalmers first budget
    Well of course they did. It was a neo-con budget, after all.
    ———————————————————————————————

    Given the absolute pasting that the AFR has given the budget over the past week, it’s interesting to note their readers don’t seem to see it that way.
    Which begs the question then, given the contradiction, is it the AFR or its readers then that are neo-con?

  13. Rex Douglassays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Most of The Australian Financial Review readers supported Treasurer Jim Chalmers first budget

    Well of course they did. It was a neo-con budget, after all.

    Maybe it’s because they have a level of economic literacy.

  14. ”Cash called on the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, to explain what checks had been undertaken and “what security measures are they now putting in place… ”

    Of course the Prime Minister is not going to spell out details of checks and security measures. The Opposition is grabbing for the dogwhistle.

  15. Integrity Rex playing a hard game to make sure he doesn’t get left of of the P1-nath throuple in favour of Taylormerde.

  16. Rex do you know what a neo con even is? Neoconservatism is linked to hawkish, interventionist foreign policy, not economic policy.

  17. Rex Douglas says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Most of The Australian Financial Review readers supported Treasurer Jim Chalmers first budget

    Well of course they did. It was a neo-con budget, after all.
    ——————————————–
    They would be the people that swung to the Teals the ALP and the Greens and that’s why its hubris to claim the Liberals cannot win back their former heartland.

  18. Barney in Cherating says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:18 pm
    Rex Douglassays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Most of The Australian Financial Review readers supported Treasurer Jim Chalmers first budget

    Well of course they did. It was a neo-con budget, after all.
    Maybe it’s because they have a level of economic literacy.
    中华人民共和国
    Paul Keating once said, “I guarantee if you walk into any pet shop in Australia, the resident galah will be talking about microeconomic policy.”

    Labor voters ain’t dumb.

  19. I hope Boris going doesn’t give Scomo ideas about going as well. Then again, they could join with other like minded misfits (like hopefully ex-president Bolsonaro) in their own little soiree.

    a r says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:31 pm
    Boerwar @ #2320 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 6:17 pm

    He cares, he really does.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/29/no-10-alarm-as-boris-johnson-plans-to-attend-cop27-climate-summit
    How come Boris can go but the king can’t?

  20. Taylormade @ #1670 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 6:47 pm

    Player Onesays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 3:19 pm
    Cronus @ #2839 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 2:17 pm
    Different singer, same song.
    _____________________
    Well done. I normally don’t mind Cronus’s posts but will keep that one in mind when I read his posts in the future.
    It happens far too much on PB.

    If you’re taking Player One’s word for anything you’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel, where Player One lives among the slime. 😐

  21. Does anyone know where I can find the “Laws of Cricket” in Thai? Bahasa is on the list but no Thai. Asking for a friend.

  22. Google Translate about as handy as my big toe. Will try the fish thingy.

    Thanks C@t.

  23. citizen @ #1710 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 8:58 pm

    I hope Boris going doesn’t give Scomo ideas about going as well. Then again, they could join with other like minded misfits (like hopefully ex-president Bolsonaro) in their own little soiree.

    a r says:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:31 pm
    Boerwar @ #2320 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 6:17 pm

    He cares, he really does.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/29/no-10-alarm-as-boris-johnson-plans-to-attend-cop27-climate-summit
    How come Boris can go but the king can’t?

    Because the King can’t go to an unsafe country like Egypt I would imagine. And Boris is an attention hound. He’ll go where the world’s attention is focused on.

  24. Barney in Cherating @ #1694 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 8:16 pm

    The Coalition showing their compassionate side.

    ‘Full responsibility’: Michaelia Cash challenges Labor on security after repatriation of families from Syria

    Government says process was informed by national security advice, individual assessments and detailed work by security agencies

    Cash, now the shadow workplace relations minister, told Sky News it was “fundamental” that the government “must always do [what] is in the national interest and in the best interests of Australians”.

    “These people understood [when they left Australia], they made a decision and the decision would have consequences.”

    Cash called on the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, to explain what checks had been undertaken and “what security measures are they now putting in place to ensure that at all times … Australians are kept safe”.

    “These are people who have been living in a situation whereby they have associated with people who hate Australia.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/30/full-responsibility-michaelia-cash-challenges-labor-on-security-after-repatriation-of-families-from-syria


  25. C@tmommasays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 8:56 pm
    simm0888 @ #1702 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 8:46 pm

    Rex do you know what a neo con even is? Neoconservatism is linked to hawkish, interventionist foreign policy, not economic policy.

    He knows all the clichés and he’s damn well gonna use them!

    LOL Rex

  26. C@tmomma @ #2933 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 9:05 pm

    Taylormade @ #1670 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 6:47 pm

    Player Onesays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 3:19 pm
    Cronus @ #2839 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 2:17 pm
    Different singer, same song.
    _____________________
    Well done. I normally don’t mind Cronus’s posts but will keep that one in mind when I read his posts in the future.
    It happens far too much on PB.

    If you’re taking Player One’s word for anything you’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel, where Player One lives among the slime. 😐

    Are you trying to out-nasty AE, C@t? Nasty as you are, you still have a ways to go.


  27. Taylormadesays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 6:47 pm
    Player Onesays:
    Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 3:19 pm
    Cronus @ #2839 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 2:17 pm
    Different singer, same song.
    _____________________
    Well done. I normally don’t mind Cronus’s posts but will keep that one in mind when I read his posts in the future.
    It happens far too much on PB.

    Taylormade
    I thought we are PB mates.

  28. Cash is worried about the women and children brought home from the Middle East. Albanese has questions to answer, she says.

    The Nine media is reporting that a Chinese organised crime figure, jailed in the UK for sex trafficking, is now living in Sydney having entered the country on a student visa! And running the same business.

    And who was in charge of immigration for the last nine years?

    You could not make this stuff up.

  29. Rossmcg @ #1724 Sunday, October 30th, 2022 – 9:15 pm

    Cash is worried about the women and children brought home from the Middle East. Albanese has questions to answer, she says.

    The Nine media is reporting that a Chinese organised crime figure, jailed in the UK for sex trafficking, is now living in Sydney having entered the country on a student visa! And running the same business.

    And who was in charge of immigration for the last nine years?

    You could not make this stuff up.

    But he’ll only traffic women into sex slavery. Michaelia Cash and her wealthy woman cohort don’t give two hoots about them. They are focused on scaring the living daylights out of similarly wealthy women who may be unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and become a victim of a terrorist attack.

    It will probably be as likely as winning the lotto for that to happen but she’ll make sure the fear is real.

  30. Almost half of all Australian voters believe they will be worse over the next 12 months following Labor’s first budget, #newspoll has found.

  31. Hi all, just catching up after an afternoon out. Interesting comments up-thread on the attack on Sevastapol.

    Seems to me there are a couple of videos out there of the attack by USV’s. Seems that there are three in circulation, all from different USV’s. Looks like the same brand of USV that was used a few weeks ago in a smaller way that left one washed up intact. If they got those vids back then there is a good chance that wherever they were launched from the controllers were somewhere in or very near Sevastapol, although they may have carried something like a Star-link terminal?

    Haven’t seen anything purporting to be of the supposed air component of the attack?? Seems that at the moment its 2 ships damaged, maybe more.

    On the connection to subs. You don’t need a “dry shelter” as seen on the after-deck of some boats. This kind of kit, if sub launched is either popped out of a torpedo tube, or packaged into a larger diameter VLS tube (or horizontal lockout chamber). Conceptually its nothing new and probably fits into the “useful in the right circumstances” rather than “game changing” category.

    Seems that the Ukrainians’s have, again, come up with a way to use commercial off the shelf stuff as a weapon to get in a hit that wasn’t really expected. but then the Russians seem to get taken by surprise about a lot of things?? 🙁 The main effect of this sort of attack will be to get the Russians more focused on their own defense well behind their “lines”. Stopping the Ukrainians hurting them instead of hurting the Ukrainians on the battlefield. Not a good place to be when you are the aggressor who is overall losing. Having the initiative seized by your opponent and getting your nose rubbed in it is not a good look.

    Would love to know where they launched them from, but will maybe never find that out.

  32. Anthony Albanese’s commanding lead over Peter Dutton as preferred prime minister has fallen despite popular support for the Labor government lifting to a post-election high.

    Oz Paywall

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