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My system today called Bass and Wannon for the Liberals and Wentworth for Allegra Spender, the latter being the first gain called for the teal independents, although I don’t doubt there will be four and probably five to follow. Postals continue to be added in large numbers, although they will start to diminish henceforth. As noted below, one of the biggest developments today arose from rechecking. Tomorrow we are apparently see numbers from electronic-assisted telephone voting added, which is exciting because I have absolutely no idea about their partisan tendency and how many there will be.
The latest from the three seats that could potentially push Labor over the line to a majority:
Brisbane. Kevin Bonham’s post-count post suggests the AEC is conducting an unusual indicative three-candidate preferred count to determine which out of Labor and the Greens will drop out and deliver the seat to the other. However, I’ve heard no official word on this. Based on the preference distribution in 2019, my earlier assessment was that Labor would need a buffer on the primary vote to hold out against preferences to the Greens from Animal Justice, and even to some extent from the right-wing parties, more of whose preferences went to the Greens than Labor (though a great deal more again went to the LNP). However, as with one or two of my other early assessments, this may have failed to fully account for the substantial increase in postal votes this time, which are being true to form in being weak for the Greens. Labor now leads the Greens on the primary vote, but it will need to further boost the margin if my surmise about preference flows is borne out.
Gilmore. Labor had a very handy boost of 382 votes in rechecking that was mostly down to the Gerringong booth, where the two-candidate figures had been entered the wrong way around. This apparently put Labor in the lead briefly on the raw count, but the Liberals recovered it when a small batch of postals favoured them 701-521, with Andrew Constance currently 104 votes ahead. Postals will no doubt continue to favour Constance, but the bulk of them are now out of the way. Still to come are declaration pre-polls, which should break about evenly; absents, which should boost Labor by maybe 300; provisionals, which should add a couple of dozen for Labor; and electronic-assisted votes, which I continue to have no idea about.
Lyons. This is the first result I’ve looked at where the second batch of postals was observably different from the first, going 1024-910 to Liberal compared with 2966-2857 to Labor. If the outstanding postals break like the latest batch, Labor’s current lead of 703 votes will be cut in half. That makes it very close, but there is no specific reason to expect the other outstanding votes will move the dial in either direction.
Elsewhere, Labor continues to be buried on postals in Deakin, the latest batch breaking 3715-2584 to the Liberals. Yesterday I asserted that outstanding postals should add around 1000 to Michael Sukkar’s lead, but this batch alone adds to 1131. From here Labor will need stronger than anticipated absents and/or declaration pre-polls, and/or for the enigma of electronic assisted voting. I would personally call Menzies for the Liberals now even though my system doesn’t yet have it past the 99% threshold, yesterday’s postals having broken 3715-2584 in their favour.
After a quiet day in Curtin on Monday, a second batch of postals were added that favoured Liberal member Celia Hammond 4464-2950, a similar proportion to the first batch. This suggests the outstanding postals will bite a further 1000 or so out of independent Kate Chaney’s 1842 vote lead. However, the Liberals were relatively weak on absent votes in the seat in 2019, and there’s little reason to think out-of-division pre-polls will be particularly favourable to them.
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Good morning Dawn Patrollers
David Crowe says the way Joe Biden greeted Anthony Albanese on Tuesday suggested the US president and Australian prime minister will get along just fine.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-performance-with-a-purpose-biden-welcomes-albanese-to-the-top-table-20220524-p5ao6z.html
Anthony Albanese couldn’t have hoped for a better opening to his Prime Ministership as he emphasises a change of government did not mean a change in Australia’s values, its approach to China or the importance of the Quad, writes Jennifer Hewett who said Albanese stood tall.
https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/albanese-stands-tall-in-the-quad-20220524-p5ao11
The Liberal Party is undoubtedly the big loser from the federal election, but there are challenges ahead for all parties in this intriguing parliament, writes Chris Uhlmann.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/circle-of-political-life-turns-canberra-upside-down-20220524-p5anxc.html
Chip Le Grand and James Massola write that Liberals who feared the Coalition was on a path to electoral oblivion urged Josh Frydenberg to challenge Morrison in September, but were unable to convince the former treasurer – who has lost his seat to a teal – to turn against his leader.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/liberals-discussed-dumping-morrison-in-coalition-s-final-months-20220524-p5ao0z.html
“All is not lost for the Liberals”, says Janet Albrechtsen.
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/reports-of-libs-death-greatly-exaggerated/news-story/b2c18ccc46fa392ced98de064c6df319
It is time real Liberals stopped listening to those bastardising their party’s philosophy to shroud Luddite attitudes towards progress and veil naked bigotry, writes James Cross.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/abandoning-classical-liberalism-turns-the-heartland-teal-20220523-p5anu5
Rather than pander to a loud and privileged elite in teal seats, the Liberal Party must start asking itself what it believes in and seeking support for policies that reflect those beliefs, urges the IPA’s John Roskam.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/the-liberal-party-lost-by-standing-for-nothing-20220523-p5anu0
Ross Gittins reckons Albanese does not have a hard act to follow. He tells us what we couldn’t see from the budget papers is the extent to which the Morrison government has been holding back the tide of higher spending by cutting public service jobs, increasing waiting times, cutting NDIS packages and finding excuses to suspend people’s dole payments.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/success-and-succession-albanese-does-not-have-a-hard-act-to-follow-20220524-p5ao2u.html
“China should dump its tariffs on Australian exports if it is serious about mending relations with Canberra, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has suggested, as he reassured the region a change of government in Australia should not be mistaken for a change in the nation’s resolve to seek regional peace and stability”, writes Phil Coorey.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/drop-the-trade-bans-and-we-ll-talk-albanese-tells-china-20220523-p5anw1
And Coorey thinks Albanese’s political skills should serve him well in foreign affairs.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/albanese-s-political-skills-should-serve-him-well-in-foreign-affairs-20220524-p5ao6u
Michael Pascoe thinks opportunity is knocking for Australia in China.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2022/05/25/michael-pascoe-opportunity-australia-china/
Katherine Murphy explains how Labor ran a hyper-local campaign in Western Australia with a separate strategy group and different ads.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/25/labor-ran-a-hyper-local-campaign-in-western-australia-with-a-separate-strategy-group-and-different-ads
Just before erstwhile Prime Minister Scott Morrison called Saturday’s election Senator Cash shamelessly appointed a number of Liberal and government members and staffers to the AAT where they will earn between around $190,000 to $380,000 a year. There was no attempt to hide this stacking of this quasi judicial body, writes Greg Barns who pushes Mark Dreyfus to ring in the changes.
https://johnmenadue.com/time-for-change-the-attorney-general-and-the-aat/
Labor’s Tony Burke has said he is “determined to fix” how parliament works, as crossbench MPs submit long lists of demands to boost their voice and influence. Paul Karp says more crossbench questions in question time, abolishing Dorothy Dixers, and guaranteed debates and votes on private members’ bills are some of the most common requests from returning crossbench MPs.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/25/tony-burke-vows-to-fix-parliament-as-crossbench-demands-reform
In quite a withering evaluation, Julie Szego declares that a Liberal Party guided by right-wing commentators is in serious trouble.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/a-liberal-party-guided-by-right-wing-commentators-is-in-serious-trouble-20220524-p5anxq.html
Tony Abbott’s advice to the Liberal Party not to focus too much on regaining the lost blue-ribbon heartland of Australia’s richest real estate but to look to less well-off outer suburbs for renewal and revival is spot-on, opines Dennis Shanahan.
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/stop-overreacting-tony-abbott-sees-hope-in-suburbs-and-regions/news-story/6eddbff43dc8c60dcc43863a2cf1ab8b
NSW Liberal senator Andrew Bragg, one of the party’s leading moderate voices, has put forward a 10-point reform plan including proposals to pause the superannuation guarantee to boost wages and reduce reliance on income tax, reports The Australian’s Joe Kelly.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/election-2022-moderate-liberal-andrew-bragg-submits-10point-manifesto/news-story/373e014484c164db8c53b2dff749b20b
It was a tale of two elections: a miracle for Scott Morrison in 2019 and a win for Labor on a weak primary vote amid a wave of support for Greens and Independents in 2022. Harry Chemay contrasts the atmosphere from the aftermath of both contests.
https://michaelwest.com.au/revolt-in-the-menzies-land-frustrated-voters-deliver-independents-day/
“Writing this a couple of days after the most important election in Australian history, Australians did finally find their voices, and in no uncertain manner told the neo-liberal jackals who had come storming into public life that they were finished”, writes Mark Buckley who says Morrison reaped what he had sown.
https://theaimn.com/morrison-reaped-what-he-had-sown/
If Senator Zed Seselja is looking for somebody to blame for his now inevitable exit from Parliament, the mirror might be a good place to start, says The Canberra Times editorial.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7751832/seselja-rejection-years-in-the-making/?cs=27763
China must remove its sanctions on Australian products to have any chance of improving relations between the two countries, Anthony Albanese has declared after joining the Quad summit in Tokyo with regional leaders to endorse a firm line against Chinese coercion, writes David Crowe.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/no-justification-albanese-tells-china-to-lift-australian-trade-bans-20220524-p5ao6x.html
Michael McCormack has lashed his successor, Barnaby Joyce, and firebrand senator Matt Canavan over the roles they played in the election campaign and its wash-up, and confirmed he is considering a bid to regain the party’s leadership, reports Mike Foley.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/joyce-canavan-must-share-blame-for-liberal-wipeout-mccormack-says-20220524-p5ao1x.html
Lifting the minimum wage is anything but reckless – it’s what low earners need, declares Peter Martin.
https://theconversation.com/lifting-the-minimum-wage-is-anything-but-reckless-its-what-low-earners-need-183643
New Labor government policies to reduce childcare costs, make medicines less expensive and reduce carbon emissions to foster cheaper renewable energy are likely to put more cash in the pockets of householders, says John Collett.
https://www.smh.com.au/money/super-and-retirement/what-labor-s-election-victory-means-for-your-money-20220515-p5alh7.html
Against the backdrop of the Liberals’ federal election rout, party members are preparing challenges against a group of sitting state MPs, many of whom have sat in Parliament since last century, write Paul Sakkal and Rachel Eddie.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/challengers-jockey-to-turf-out-most-of-the-liberals-in-victoria-s-upper-house-20220524-p5ao0u.html
Newly energised Green and teal members of Parliament want to railroad the Albanese government into more radical steps on decarbonising the Australian economy than it pledged at the election, says the AFR’s editorial which tells us that climate policy must not be blown off course once again.
https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/climate-policy-must-not-be-blown-off-course-once-again-20220524-p5ao44
Australia’s gas producers are relying on carbon capture and storage to convince investors they have a future, but there is a problem, explains Peter Milne
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/carbon-storage-climate-cure-or-palliative-care-for-fossil-fuels-20220520-p5an64.html
The election shows the conservative culture war on climate change could be nearing its end, say these contributors to The Conversation.
https://theconversation.com/the-election-shows-the-conservative-culture-war-on-climate-change-could-be-nearing-its-end-183450
In a typical pollical mongrel act, the Coalition delayed news that electricity prices are set to rise until just after the federal election. Peter Hannam gives us the details of the AMEO annual report.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/25/coalition-delayed-news-that-electricity-prices-are-set-to-rise-until-after-federal-election
The AFR’s Chanticleer tells us that the regulator has blindsided NBN Co by rejecting its proposed aggressive price increases for wholesale broadband, opening the way for a reset of its economics by the incoming government.
https://www.afr.com/chanticleer/accc-s-gift-to-new-comms-minister-20220524-p5anyl
Anthony Albanese’s government has ordered an investigation into why Australian Border Force broke its own policy in issuing a media release about an asylum seeker boat on election day amid political pressure from the Coalition.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-government-turns-around-its-first-asylum-seeker-boat-20220524-p5ao2y.html
Dennis Muller explains how the ‘reality-distorting machinery’ of the federal election campaign delivered sub-par journalism. He says the nightly television news coverage of the 2022 federal election was among the most juvenile and uninformative in fifty years.
https://theconversation.com/how-the-reality-distorting-machinery-of-the-federal-election-campaign-delivered-sub-par-journalism-183629
And David Donovan says the Albanese victory signals sunset on the Murdoch era.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/albanese-victory-signals-sunset-on-murdoch-era,16395
Lixa Visentin explains how support is growing to use Helen Haines’ ICAC bill as a starting point.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pocock-urges-labor-to-back-independent-mp-s-anti-corruption-model-20220524-p5anzd.html
“Almost 60% of teachers say they want out. What is Labor going to do for an exhausted school sector?”, asks Jessica Holloway.
https://theconversation.com/almost-60-of-teachers-say-they-want-out-what-is-labor-going-to-do-for-an-exhausted-school-sector-183452
Our nation is not facing imminent invasion, but our new leaders should learn the lessons of Ukraine, and use them to address Australia’s national security challenges, urges Mick Ryan.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/what-the-albanese-government-can-learn-from-ukraine-20220524-p5anxm.html
The editorial in the SMH says that the media is (sic) not always popular in Australia but most people can see the value for our democracy in having a free press that investigates and exposes cases of injustice and fraud. It calls for changes to Australia’s defamation laws.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/delicate-balance-between-a-free-press-and-protecting-reputations-20220524-p5ao6d.html
Businesswomen are urging the federal government to help make it financially viable for more women to work with new figures revealing more than 100,000 women could not even search for employment because of a lack of childcare, explain Shane Wright and Rachel Clun.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/willing-to-work-but-stuck-without-childcare-women-need-action-20220524-p5anzc.html
Hundreds of Australian businesses face fresh volatility after the collapse of a major national gas retailer with the Ai Group warning more energy suppliers face the prospect of collapse and calling for the Albanese government to respond to soaring prices, reports Perry Williams
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/business/gas-retailer-weston-energys-collapse-stirs-call-for-labor-intervention/news-story/f37f09fb29a6de972a498f14321b80c9
Metricon customers are fearful of losing their money and claim they’ve been left in the dark about the future of their homes amid construction delays and price hikes. This reads very badly.
https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/sleepless-nights-the-metricon-customers-whose-dream-homes-became-nightmares-20220523-p5ann1.html
“Crazy” valuations for buy now, pay later companies have plummeted. Now investors are demanding proof these cash-burning businesses can make profits, writes Clancy Yeates.
https://www.smh.com.au/money/investing/why-afterpay-is-no-longer-a-market-darling-20220520-p5an3t.html
From the inquiry yesterday, Lucy Cormack reports that the outgoing Star Entertainment Group chairman sought to have the Sydney casino licence inquiry held behind closed doors, last year telling a board director it was “the number one objective”.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/underdone-star-chairman-likens-casinos-to-the-banks-on-risk-failures-20220524-p5ao0l.html
Elizabeth Knight writes that, with money pouring into a new fleet, new routes and now curated package holidays, Qantas is spending its way back to growth.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/earn-and-burn-why-qantas-wants-to-become-a-package-tour-operator-20220524-p5ao4q.html
Josh Frydenberg’s status as fan No.1 at Carlton must be under a cloud after his defeat on Saturday. His conqueror Monique Ryan is also a dedicated Blues supporter – so will the honour transfer to her?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/tickets-please-will-frydenberg-still-be-no-1-20220524-p5ao4n.html
Just how many lives does the disgraced Boris Johnson have, wonders Marina Hyde.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/24/disgraced-prime-minister-boris-johnson-party-lockdown
At least two** children were killed, and more than a dozen others were wounded in a shooting at an elementary school in South Texas, according to news media and local hospital reports on social media. Ah, the Land of the Free!
** It’s now 15 dead!
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/shooting-at-elementary-school-shooting-in-texas-multiple-deaths-reported-20220525-p5ao91.html
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From the US
If Dutton becomes LOTO Blundstone better start working on a jackboot range.
Doesn’t Biden know it won’t be easy under Albanese!!!
“Starbucks in its role as a leader in the second wave of coffee culture …”
Not round these parts, Don.
llabor should sack mike pezzullow former beazley staffer but clearly a dutton loilist if he helpt libs with text on election day could be a reazon just bassi should go from aspi
I imagine one reason they didn’t go to the election late last year is that they wanted an extra six months of pay, perks, board stacking, hand outs etc …. Never underestimate their base instincts.
Press the button on Dutton to go
Jaeger @ #20 Wednesday, May 25th, 2022 – 6:48 am
Just look at it. He means hundreds of items, with weird names. Very few with any relationship to actual coffee.
https://www.starbucks.com.au/Menu.php
Uhlmann is importing his right wing talking points direct from the USA
‘The Liberals can’t compete with the “Starbucks” choice now on offer,”
While Dutton would be popular with the Coalition base and would be enthusiastically boosted by Murdoch, is there any evidence that he is:
(a) smart
(b) competent
(c) remotely capable of being a uniting figure rather than a divisive one
“Rather than pander to a loud and privileged elite in teal seats, the Liberal Party must start asking itself what it believes in and seeking support for policies that reflect those beliefs”, urges the IPA’s John Roskam.
Surely IPA really wants Liberal Party to double down to keep coal mines open and keep foreign owned entities from paying tax for as long as possible and sell some plausible crap to the minions in the outer ‘burbs.
Sobering to read the counting updates.
So many people were still prepared to vote Liberal, not to mention Liberal Lites.
I agree with Aaron – “Howard successfully outdid One Nation in 2001 with asylum seekers and Tampa, adopting One Nation policies, and won a big victory. Dutton and Morrison were clearly following a similar strategy this time painting China as the enemy”. I’m not sure if we reach the same conclusion though. I don’t think Morrison failed accidentally – it had been milked for all it was worth. As a strategy, it never died out. It’s always been present in election campaigns and the political landscape is aligned so that those who care already vote in response to it. And I just don’t see it as a viable option for future elections. It’s the same as “strong economic managers”. You can appeal to it, but it isn’t a source of _new_ voters, just a way to keep swinging voters your way. What can the Libs offer that they haven’t offered before? I’m probably not creative enough to strategise for them, but I guess maybe it is a bloky “freedom freedom freedom”.
The China bit was weird though. Freya probably represented mainstream Liberal thinking when she suggested the so called “Chinese vote” was the Liberals’ to lose, so why did they go out of their way to los e it?
Morning all, thank you BK. Greyish, gloomy day. Temps to start the day are in the low oughties.
mundo
The next federal election is in 3 years time , its over for the lib/nats we have a new government
Bragg
A Liberal Party “moderate”
IPA
A perennial attack dog on universal superannuation and “reduce the reliance on income tax”
So, in the continuing lack of wages growth, increase your take home wage by not contributing to superannuation and, to boot, reducing reliance on income tax by paying no tax
Which demographic does this ideology favour – and which is disadvantaged?
Plus austerity will deliver confidence and that confidence will trickle down
“moderate”?
Bragg is an obnoxious, right wing ideological warrior
He is only “moderate” because he does not champion religion (actually Bible groups) – at least as far as I know
And they – including media – wonder why the Liberal Party has been and is being decimated to oblivion across the Nation
Whether Labor gets to 76/77/78 seats doesnt matter
What did come true there was a 2007 Howard government feeling about Morrison and his cronies they were heading for a landslide defeat of losing close to 20+ seats
It’s all just a calculation with the LNP, should they move to the centre or further to the right, where are the votes? Not even the faintest whiff of integrity or ideology. That’s their problem.
Greyish in Sydney too (so situation normal), patches of blue, a bit more rain overnight, minimum 9-12° across the Metro area.
Roskam: “a loud and privileged elite”
… from the head of a sheltered workshop for loud and privileged elites.
Priceless!
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Rakalisays:
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 6:30 am
Confessions
“The Liberals can’t compete with the “Starbucks” choice now on offer”.
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Whatever do they mean by a “Starbucks” choice?
I only once ever had (unwillingly) a Starbucks coffee and found it bland, second rate and it has been unrepeatable.
That is a strange description of the range of non-tories that make up the new Parliament.
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I had Starbucks coffee only once before in my life. It was not good at all. I thought even our neighborhood Coffee outlets including coffee of Shell and 7Eleven service stations was much better than Starbucks coffee.
Saw the news that Angus Taylor or Stuart Robert are being talked about as strong chances for shadow Treasurer.
BK
‘…
Labor’s Tony Burke has said he is “determined to fix” how parliament works, as crossbench MPs submit long lists of demands to boost their voice and influence. Paul Karp says more crossbench questions in question time, abolishing Dorothy Dixers, and guaranteed debates and votes on private members’ bills are some of the most common requests from returning crossbench MPs.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/25/tony-burke-vows-to-fix-parliament-as-crossbench-demands-reform‘
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Burke should do a good job here. He was a superb manager of Opposition Business. Knows the ropes. I do hope that the Teals remember that they got less than 5% of the national vote and don’t get ahead of themselves too much.
@Felix
The Coalition probably thought that (1) there was enough margin in seats like Menzies, Deakin and Bennelong, Chisholm notwithstanding, that losing the Chinese ethnic vote wasn’t going to harm them in terms of seats and (2) it was worth shoring up the white/Anglo low-education vote to compensate for any losses from the ethnic vote; to that extent they were able to preserve the seats of Lindsay, Longman, Dickson, La Trobe and even increase their margins in some.
To that end the Liberal Party is paralleling the GOP in becoming increasingly a low-education white grievance anti-woke culture wars party. Its target audience are do not need concrete improvement in living standards and equality to have their vote bought; bigotry and dog whistling and overt racism is enough. Their new leader fits this strategy like a glove.
Pouring this wet stuff in Adelaide
From yesterday:
Trent @ #779 Tuesday, May 24th, 2022 – 5:11 pm
Maybe google past the first headline. Apophenia is an error in statistical interpretation that assigns patterns to unconnected data – say, random batches of postal votes. This being primarily a psephological blog I had assumed that many people would know this.
You made this error in spades in your analysis; I pointed it out in two words. Get a grip.
Thank you, BK.
BK
‘…
Newly energised Green and teal members of Parliament want to railroad the Albanese government into more radical steps on decarbonising the Australian economy than it pledged at the election, says the AFR’s editorial which tells us that climate policy must not be blown off course once again.
https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/climate-policy-must-not-be-blown-off-course-once-again-20220524-p5ao44
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One station that railroad will not pass is the one called ‘Raise New Taxes’.
77% of voters gave their primary votes to parties that promised not to raise new taxes.
The IPA really hate it when voters identify with or align with the cultural and intellectual elites rather than the moneyed elites. And the moneyed elites who bellow at full volume across the mainstream media outlets, voices that they own and control, really hate it when other voices are heard.
ltep says:
“Saw the news that Angus Taylor or Stuart Robert are being talked about as strong chances for shadow Treasurer.”
Angus will surely add a few gratuitous zeros to the Budget numbers.
ltep @ #71 Wednesday, May 25th, 2022 – 8:23 am
Doesn’t it really depend on who the deputy is, seeing as the deputy is able to choose their portfolio and whoever that person is (likely to be a woman) may choose treasury.
‘Oliver Sutton says:
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 8:26 am
ltep says:
“Saw the news that Angus Taylor or Stuart Robert are being talked about as strong chances for shadow Treasurer.”
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Ley, Robert and Taylor are all thoroughly soiled goods. That the Liberals are even considering putting them in senior positions tells us that they have a shallow barrel and that they have learned nothing from their drubbing.
It is patently obvious now that US school children should be carrying firearms.
BK
Texas Governor apparently found the massacre ‘baffling’.
BK @ #82 Wednesday, May 25th, 2022 – 8:29 am
It’s just disgusting. We keep saying ‘if this doesn’t force a rethink on US gun control, nothing will’, and then the next massacre comes, with STILL no rethink on gun control.
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Oliver Suttonsays:
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 6:44 am
“The Liberals can’t compete with the “Starbucks” choice now on offer …”
Uhlmann is referring to the ‘left’ of Australian politics (such as it is)?
Oh, FFS! If the Liberals were to lurch further right, they’ll be competing with the PHONies and Palmer’s PUPs and the (neo)Liberal Dems and Rooters, Shooters ‘n’ Fishers and the Kattermites and Dog knows who else.
Oh, and let’s not forget the Osborne Independent Group (is that still a thing?):
“Uhlmann unsuccessfully contested the ACT 1998 general election for the electorate of Molonglo with the Osborne Independent Group. The conservative group was named after Paul Osborne, who was strongly pro-life and advocated blocking both euthanasia legislation and any attempt to decriminalise abortion.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Uhlmann
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How this Mad Monk 2 got a gig in National Broadcaster (ABC) is beyond me.
Texas Governor apparently found the massacre ‘baffling’.
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Boerwar
Governor Abbott would find counting his fingers baffling!
A woman I knew a few years ago had the choice of a posting to Texas or the Hague. Her employer paid all staff posted to Texas a danger allowance.
Needless to say she chose the Hague.
Ven
The centre right is now the new left.
Freya Stark says:
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 8:24 am
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To that end the Liberal Party is paralleling the GOP in becoming increasingly a low-education white grievance anti-woke culture wars party. Its target audience are do not need concrete improvement in living standards and equality to have their vote bought; bigotry and dog whistling and overt racism is enough. Their new leader fits this strategy like a glove.
Freya I have worked in both countries, I worked in manufacturing as an engineer so I have had a lot of contact with tradesman.
1) The “low-educated”in Australia are a lot better educated in the USA.
2) If you get invited back home for a meal, in Australia you will end up eating in a suburban home, dinner conversation will be interesting covering international events and probable personal stories of their youth in another country. In the USA you will end up eating in a caravan and the attitude of isolated bogan’s doesn’t even begin to cover there view of the world they do not see.
I’m afraid the Murdoch’s have spent too much time in their gated USA communities, they really have lost contact with reality.
The naked immorality and corruption of not announcing the electricity prices and setting up the asylum boat stunt combined with Dutton, Ley, Robert and Taylor being touted in senior positions, are all we need to know to remind us that that the leopard may try to change its spots but that in three years time the leopard will still be a leopard.
Well if you think that Alan Jones, Peta Credlin and like-minded people represent the political Centre then pretty much everyone is left wing.
Severodonetsk is a test case for whether the Russians have been able to pivot successfully from the Kyiv/Kharkiv disasters on the one hand and whether Ukraine has the will to continue to wear a high rate of losses in men on the other.
It is clear that the supply of money, arms and munitions from the West will continue unabated.
How many of the current crop of Liberals will the federal ICAC take out?
Felix the Cassowary says:
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 3:43 am
“What’s the point of a legislated/trial run voice? We already had one. As soon as they were a problem for the government they got abolished. The only voice worth having is the one that has to be heard even when it says hard things to hear. (Repost from yesterday’s thread.)”
Exactly. Also, the implementation of the voice is about respect and manners. It’s about showing First Nations people that white Australia can listen and be trusted. A constitutionally enshrined voice means it can’t be abolished (not easily anyway) and builds good faith in the process for people that have been lied to and promised at for 240 years. The voice is also critical to negotiating the many treaties that will be required – so it’s very important that it can’t simply be legislated away.
I’m not mob – but I do wonder if there is any mob bludgers….
Awkward … “but now is not the time to discuss gun control.”
Freya, I don’t think that’s quite right. The Liberals tried hard not to alienate, if not to actively court, non-white religious voters. During the campaign there were the Swedish riots which should have caused an identity politics cycle in Australia if the Liberals were after white identity voters. If that did happen, it was too subtle or too quick for me to notice.
Much appreciation BK
Don Key @7:37 am
Wow, thanks, thats great insight, i wasnt aware of third wave coffee. Consistency->Diversification