The Australian has published the concluding quarterly set of aggregated Newspoll breakdowns for the year, showing results by state, gender, age, education, income, language and religion.
The results have the Coalition leading 51-49 in New South Wales, a two point shift to the Coalition since last quarter; Labor leading 55-45 in Victoria, a one point shift to the Coalition; the Coalition leading 57-43 in Queensland, a two point shift to Labor; the Coalition leading 53-47 in Western Australia, a one point shift to Labor; and the Coalition leading 51-49 in South Australia, a one point shift to the Coalition.
The Australian’s report leads with Labor’s weak position among men, but the gender breakdowns are in fact unchanged on last time with the Coalition leading 53-47 among men and Labor leading 51-49 among women. Labor’s lead among the 18-to-34 cohort widens from 58-42 to 61-39, but there is now a tie among the 35-to-49 cohort after Labor lead 53-47 last time. The Coalition’s leads among the older cohorts are little changed, at 55-45 among 50-to-64 and 62-38 among 65-plus.
The recorded gap between English speakers and those who speak a different language at home has narrowed slightly, with the Coalition’s lead among the former going from 52-48 to 51-49 and Labor’s lead among the latter narrowing from 56-44 to 54-46. The other breakdowns record no notable pattern of change: two-party splits vary little by education (although education associates positively with Greens support and negatively with One Nation support); there is no great variation by income until the $150,000-plus cohort, which broke 55-45 for the Coalition; and Christians breaking 59-41 for the Coalition, while those of no religion going 57-43 to Labor.
The results are compiled from YouGov’s Newspoll surveys from August to November, from a combined sample of 8123.
Greensborough Growler @ #1247 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 7:06 pm
It’s ok. Now that Taylormade has turned up, I’m flipping over to your side.
Taylormade
You look such a twit. All this time and you can’t accept that
1. The vast majority of deaths in Victoria were in people who were the responsibility of the Federal Government.
2. The 2nd wave in Victoria happened because Victoria eased restrictions too early and this was at the behest of your beloved Scott “early mark” Morisson.
I said yesterday PB’s wet dream would be Tony Abbott being patient zero – and now it looks like you peeps may have second best (if twitter is to be believed). How exciting for PB.
I can make out sprocket having conniptions in his blogging lair.
Most doctors think it’s good that Oz is delaying the vaccine to March. We will have a lot more data on the efficacy and safety of the various vaccines and we aren’t in much danger with very small numbers.
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Diogenes
It makes eminent sense.
Has Morrison apologised for the 680 deaths in aged care that he was responsible for ?
Wendy Harmer tweets..
Just got an email from @BeachesMayor
“Remember, follow the health advice, stay in your zone…”
We have been very careful to do just that.
If it’s true TonyAbbott has been gallivanting around the joint, flouting the rules, there are a lot of us who will be well pissed off!
Taylormade @ #1248 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 7:07 pm
Merry Christmas to you.
How’s Sarah travelling with an intellectual like you on her team?
Spray @ #1251 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 7:10 pm
He’s very persuasive.
When a vaccine is too late:
BK
I don’t agree and for two reasons.
Firstly, every month we delay is when you look back on it from later this coming year, another month until the task is finished. Meanwhile the vested interests will push hard to reopen international travel. And they will do so despite us not being fully vaccinated. That’s a real risk and the best way to avoid the risk is to start the vaccination now. Imagine for example its September 2021. We still have millions of people non vaccinated. Its been shown that for the vaccine to get to the point of conferring herd immunity that we need to complete the rollout (and we might only then be talking about an actual 80 percent adoption). Still we make the decision to start allowing people in from the US, UK. Despite the fact that they still have major ongoing infection. Outbreaks recommence in Australia.. That’s not an implausible scenario and its made more likely by delaying the rollout now.
Secondly, view it in terms of what difference could it actually make to what we actually do. We already have two good, known vaccines with a good safety profile. Yes, adverse events will occur. But by March will we really know for example that there is a third vaccine that is safer/more effective? No, at best it will be debateable. In any case, the best data is local data. We start vaccinating here, now and we keep monitoring people and looking for information. Our data is going to be more reliable/applicable than what we get from overseas. If we discover quirks. If we find specific subgroups that may require a different vaccine, we’ll figure that out fairly quickly.
A final danger lurks. The more time we delay, the more risk there is to us not from reintroduction of people from outside, but from the internal risk of a 3rd wave. What if with hindsight we discover that what is going on now in Sydney leads to a third wave and Gladys is too politically crippled to lock down.. and things get far worse by March. Would we then regret not having vaccinated the vulnerable by then?
LR
There was a question I asked about the AZ vaccine to rhwombat earlier this morning.
Now, who was it in Australian politics who talked about being led by muppets?
For all the muppet fans..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6I_dKUYyI4
CC
This isn’t a vaccine, supposedly. (Science Alert is more your “Wow Science!” type of publication.) They’re calling it a therapy. Did rhw comment on a therapy?
Cud
Remain in further lockdown, no exemptions, appoint Andrews with authority to impose the lockdown nationally. The taylormade, irrationally obsessed need a firm hand!
yabba:
[‘We are all awake to your concocted pustular discharges…’]
Please refrain from using the first-person plural personal pronoun (nominative case) “we”. That’s reserved for royalty and solicitors.
And although dear Lars is sometimes over the top, your description of him is over the top too. Get a grip, dear.
Cud Chewer:
Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:44 pm
One trusts you slept well.
Goll
Couldn’t we be more precise. Identify Taylormade and then lock him down?
“yabba:
[‘We are all awake to your concocted pustular discharges…’]
And although dear Lars is sometimes over the top, your description of him is over the top too. Get a grip, dear.”
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I dunno Mavis. I reckon Yabba is either on the money or being far to mild in describing a thing not even good enough to pass as an internet troll.
Here’s some actual footage of L’arse being pulled from C@t’s nose:
https://youtu.be/fU6XTZ1vEoM
sprocket_ @ #1250 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 4:08 pm
I asked this before and got no answers, but as I understand it people within the northern beaches can still move about the wider zone (northern and southern), they just can’t go out of the greater northern beaches zone.
Confessions @ #1269 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 8:54 pm
I read he bought the coffee and met up with Piers Ackerman and there are photos.
Andrew_Earlwood:
Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:50 pm
[‘I dunno Mavis. I reckon Yabba is either on the money or being far to mild in describing a thing not even good enough to pass as an internet troll.’]
Yabba’s description of Lars must go close to the very worst I’ve seen on this site. Yes, Edwina’s extremely provocative and most likely delights in his posts but yabba’s way out of line. If, as you contend, Lars is a troll, the solution’s easy.
Produce the photos, dammit!
GG:
Unless there are pics it never happened!
“ If, as you contend, Lars is a troll, the solution’s easy.”
Not (even) a troll. Parasite.
Fulvio Sammut @ #1272 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 9:10 pm
Your Mission Mr Fulvio……..
Mavis,
Lars really appreciates your support.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1343862478652882944
Greensborough Growler:
Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:16 pm
[‘Lars really appreciates your support.’]
It’s not really a case of support. I really abhor the strong adjectives used by some who don’t share another poster’s views. As I said to Andrew, cat and others have a distinct choice.
Is this a clever misleading headline, or a misfire?
Is he saying that the EU punishes leavers or that anyone wanting to join better think twice? If you read the article Barnier is actually saying that it will be clear very soon that the UK is worse off on it’s own. Don’t let it happen to you. Keep your people happy.
Mavis @ #1265 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 8:15 pm
Of course Matron. Whatever you say, Matron. Not.
Just found out my great great uncle was elected at this:
“On Friday, 16 October 1885, elections for the NSW Legislative Assembly began at 8.00am. The Assembly consisted of 122 Members. Conducting the election continued over the next two weeks in different electorates across NSW. This was the last NSW election in which there was no recognisable party structure.”
It appears the 3rd Test has been confirmed for Sydney – wonder how much backsheesh was involved?
Those were the days c/- A Sydney Uni publication
“ Four candidates stood in Glebe. They were not chosen by any party. They nominated, volunteers to serve without remuneration, imbued with a sense of duty and obligation and responsibility. They addressed meetings of the citizens in the Glebe Town Hall in the days leading up to the election.”
Andrew Wu
By Andrew Wu
December 29, 2020 — 9.52pm
Sydney was expected on Tuesday night to hold on to its beloved New Year’s Test after a desperate bid by the NSW government and the state’s cricket officials to keep the iconic fixture at the SCG.
It came after days of frantic talks between cricket administrators and a suite of stakeholders, including the NSW and Queensland governments.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/sydney-set-to-hold-on-to-new-year-s-test-at-the-scg-20201229-p56qmr.html
Sprocket
Going/not going?
The Sydney Test will be a rain affected mess ending in a draw.
I got 6/20 for this quiz. Unsurprising as most of my media consumption this year has been focused on the US elections.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/26/australia-summer-quiz-1-what-can-you-remember-about-2020?CMP=share_btn_tw
Shellbell, I think closer to the time for decision on attending the SCG.
I have allocated members tickets for the first 4 days, but that was with full capacity – don’t know what the old hacks on the Trust will do with 50% capacity now? I’m hoping the excellent Dr Kerry Chant will deliver a string of donuts over the coming 10 days – in any case, if I attend it will be bemasked.
”I got 6/20 for this quiz. Unsurprising as most of my media consumption this year has been focused on the US elections.”
Not my type of quiz. I know stuff like what African Capital is named after an American President but have no idea what Kim Kardashian’s been up to.
Sprocket
Hope you have a good time.
Last New Years‘ test I attended was the one which ended in Clarke and Katich going at each other in the change room
12/20 including the 11 of the last 13
Got the kk question wrong
Shellbell
Our first house was an old weatherboard cottage, set by itself in a wilderness of about 100 acres. The 100 acres had been subdivided into quarter acre blocks about a century before, but ours was the only house built there.
There was also a railway line and a station.
In the ‘good old days’ when politicians weren’t paid, the only people who went into politics did so because they had something to gain.
Our subdivision existed because a Victorian MP in the late 1800s had bought up the land. He had then ensured that the railway was built to service it.
The mysteries of the Victorian rail network – and the problems it causes to this day – are due to Victorian MPs making use of their unpaid positions to line their own pockets.
zoomster @ #1292 Tuesday, December 29th, 2020 – 9:36 pm
Seems his venture was a bit of a failure in any case. Served him right.
Confessions
“ I got 6/20 for this quiz. Unsurprising as most of my media consumption this year has been focused on the US elections.”
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I assume “focussed” is what’s called understatement!
If honest, the words should be “gun-slinging obsessed’!
Confessions,
In answer to your earlier question, I live in the Southern Northern Beaches (???), and we’re definitely not supposed to wander over the Narrabeen bridge. Except to go to Warriewood shopping centre, strangely enough.
But yeah, T. Abbott was well and truly out of bounds.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/12/26/newspoll-quarterly-breakdowns-august-to-november/comment-page-26/#comment-3532966
The venture was clearly a profit from margin of resale venture, so as long as the blocks were sold in a rising market (i.e. not when the land boom went bust at the end of the 1880s), it was likely a profitable venture for the MP. The failure was likely by subsequent purchasers.
Spray:
Thank you.
12 out of 20. But a lot of guessing.
Average over the 4 quizzes was 12/20. However, I missed a lot because I thought to myself…that’s not the answer, surely? And it was! Also, photo questions were really tough and the dinosaur discovered in Australia I only just learned about then. 😀
Zoomster
Yes. I was involved in a matter once where a truck hit a train 100kms west of Albury but in NSW.
We needed to know this legislation for some reason.
“ An Act to enable Victorian and Queensland by-laws to be applied to Victorian and Queensland railways situate in New South Wales, and to the traffic thereon; and for other purposes.”
As to my distant relative, I think he was maybe altruistic. He was a lecturer in pathology.