Essential Research: robodebt, protests and coronavirus latest

The weekly Essential poll finds considerable displeasure at the government’s handling of the robodebt affair, even as Newspoll finds the electoral damage to be limited at best.

Together with the usual suite of questions on coronavirus, the latest weekly Essential Research survey offers findings on the government’s robodebt the recent disturbances in the United States. The former make grim reading for the government, or might do if Newspoll hadn’t suggested the debacle had made no difference on voting intention: 74% say the government should apologise to those negatively impacted, with only 11% disagreeing; 66% support interest and damages for those who wrongly repaid money, with 13% disagreeing; 55% supported a royal commission, with 23% disagreeing; and only 32% agreed the automated notifications were a good idea “even if it was poorly implemented”, with 43% disagreeing.

Regarding the protests in the United States, the propositions that “protesters are right to demand better protection and treatment of African Americans in society” and that “the protesters want to loot and cause property damage, more than they want social change” both received majority support, though far more emphatically in the former case, with 80% agreeing and 11% disagreeing, compared with 54% and 33% for the latter. There were likewise large majorities in favour of the notions that “authorities in America have been unwilling to deal with institutional racism” (78% to 10%) and that the death of George Floyd pointed to “wider discrimination against minority cultures in society” (72% to 16%), while only 33% considered Floyd’s death isolated and not illustrative of institutional police racism, compared with 54% who disagreed.

As for coronavirus, the number who are “very concerned” maintains a steady decline, down five to 27%, with quite concerned down one to 48%, not that concerned up six to 21% and not at all concerned up one to 5%. Approval of the government’s handling of the matter is little changed, with 70% rating it good (up two) and 12% poor (steady). Small-sample state breakdowns provide a further increment of support for the notion that the Western Australian government has done best out of the crisis, with the good rating at 84% and poor at 6%, with other states ranging from 67% to 79% on good and 8% to 13% on poor. Queensland respondents were most likely to say their government was moving too slowly in easing restrictions, although even here the result was only 23% compared with 63% for “about the right speed”. The poll was conducted online from Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1073.

Elsewhere, yesterday’s declaration of candidates and ballot paper draw for the July 4 Eden-Monaro by-election revealed a field of 14 candidates. Along with Labor candidate Kristy McBain and Liberal candidate Fiona Kotvojs, there are starters for the Nationals (Trevor Hicks, who won a preselection vote on Saturday), the Greens, Shooters Fishers and Farmers, the Liberal Democrats, the Christian Democrats, Help End Marijuana Prohibition, the Science Party, Sustainable Australia, something called the Australian Federation Party and three independents.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Diogenes @ #1733 Wednesday, June 10th, 2020 – 10:24 pm

    EGT
    Lincoln is one of my heroes and he was indisputably a racist. People are way more complicated than the social media age will admit. Everything is snap judgements now. No one thinks for themselves.

    Yes, we need to stop looking through the prism of the present and reflect on how much was environmental and how much was the person.

    Hitler for example, antisemitism was strong and widespread in Europe in his time, so his feelings were not unique, but how he chose to act was.

  2. I would suspect this reflects how the protests have been portrayed in the media, especially on TV, as the number of protesters was huge in comparison with those acting violently and looting.

    Regarding the protests in the United States, the propositions that …
    “the protesters want to loot and cause property damage, more than they want social change” both received majority support, …
    54% and 33% for the latter.

  3. Lincoln is a good example of why we shouldn’t paint people as good or bad without looking at the context because he didn’t start out to end slavery but did so as the civil war progressed. To error is human and no man or women can claim to be perfect and pure.

  4. Trump Demands CNN Cease And Desist Putting Out Polls Showing Him Losing

    Via CNN:

    In the letter to Zucker, the Trump campaign argued that the CNN poll is “designed to mislead American voters through a biased questionnaire and skewed sampling.”

    “It’s a stunt and a phony poll to cause voter suppression, stifle momentum and enthusiasm for the President, and present a false view generally of the actual support across America for the President,” read the letter, signed by the Trump campaign’s senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis and chief operating officer Michael Glassner.

    The campaign formally requested that CNN retract the poll and publish a “full, fair, and conspicuous retraction, apology, and clarification to correct its misleading conclusions.”

    https://www.politicususa.com/2020/06/10/trump-cnn-cease-and-desist.html

  5. The first poll that asked Scottish voters on “rejoining” the EU (as opposed to “remaining” in the EU) shows a similar emphatic response.

    Should Scotland rejoin the European Union?
    Yes 60%
    No 40%

    (Panelbase poll 1st-5th June 2020.)

    And the EU is now freer to express “support” for Scotland:

    “THE European Commission’s chief trade negotiator has signalled he is ‘willing to listen’ to any request for a Scotland-only extension to the current transition period.

    Michel Barnier’s intervention comes after former First Minister Henry McLeish urged Nicola Sturgeon to seek an extension if the UK Government continues to insist it will not do so.“

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18506776.eu-willing-listen-scotlands-request-brexit-extension/

  6. phoenixRED (Block)
    Thursday, June 11th, 2020 – 4:43 am
    Comment #6

    Trump Demands CNN Cease And Desist Putting Out Polls Showing Him Losing

    I hope they created it as a form.

    It will save them a lot of typing!

  7. Paddy Manning
    @gpaddymanning
    ·
    2m
    “Labor MPs speaking privately said morale in the party was very low amid fears the government could prove hard to beat at the next election.”

    I don’t think this requires much special insight.

  8. Confessions

    The robodebt polling is heartening and gives hope that there are decent people out there.

    There are but will Labor connect with them or use the political club they have been given ? On current form, no chance.

  9. Herd Immunity is still being supported by some in the UK.

    “Parents may have to send their children to “coronavirus parties” to catch the disease early on if scientists can’t find a vaccine, an expert (a statistician) has warned.

    Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, chairman of the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication, University of Cambridge, said he remembered being sent to play with children with measles and chickenpox before vaccines for these were introduced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-parties-could-allow-children-22167394.amp

  10. Lizzie
    That sounds defeatist considering the government while generally doing a good job has made a few mistakes and is threatening to make a bigger one by walking away from supporting the economy.

  11. Federal courts can ‘shine a light’ on Bill Barr’s ‘corrupt’ manipulation of Flynn case: Ex-CIA staffer

    On Wednesday, the lawyer appointed by a federal court to look into the DOJ’s handling of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s case found that the government’s move to dismiss the charges constituted “gross prosecutorial abuse.”

    On MSNBC’s “Deadline White House,” former CIA Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash walked through the potential implications.

    “It’s a huge setback for [Attorney General William] Barr and President Trump, who is trying to throw out all the charges against Mike Flynn, who, of course, in the early days of the Trump presidency, actually before the trump presidency, was secretly discussing with the Russians how the Trump administration and the Russian Federation, the Kremlin, would coordinate their efforts and when he was confronted about it, he lied to federal officials.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/federal-courts-can-shine-a-light-on-bill-barrs-corrupt-manipulation-of-flynn-case-ex-cia-staffer/

  12. I’ve said all along that the next election is not a foregone conclusion. It’s silly to write it off at this point in the election cycle – anything can happen over the next couple of years.

  13. Maggie Haberman@maggieNYT
    ·
    1h
    Trump tells poolers he’s restarting rallies in Oklahoma, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina.

    Stand by for a second wave of coronavirus…..

  14. And those states the virus is on the rise as well.

    Trump is getting desperate. He needs some sound bites so it can be aired on the news. He can’t do that stuck in the White House. He is showing he is weak at the moment. That’s his play at the moment – he needs the rallies.

  15. @YaThinkN
    ·
    8m
    Good Dog! Someone in Government give Lisa Millar
    @breakfastnews a bloody comms job with them now.

    The language used about ‘red-hot anger’ with tourism being closed down etc., is not in any way ‘balanced’ at all!

  16. CNN executive vice president and general counsel David Vigilante responded Wednesday afternoon with a letter to the Trump campaign. Vigilante said the Trump campaign’s letter marked what he believed to be the first time that the network has been threatened over polling results in its 40-year history.

    “To the extent we have received legal threats from political leaders in the past, they have typically come from countries like Venezuela or other regimes where there is little or no respect for a free and independent media,” he said, calling the Trump campaign’s letter “factually and legally baseless.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaign-seeks-apology-retraction-of-cnn-poll-showing-biden-leading/2020/06/10/efb6f7e6-ab42-11ea-94d2-d7bc43b26bf9_story.html

  17. Kirky @ #21 Thursday, June 11th, 2020 – 5:32 am

    And those states the virus is on the rise as well.

    Trump is getting desperate. He needs some sound bites so it can be aired on the news. He can’t do that stuck in the White House. He is showing he is weak at the moment. That’s his play at the moment – he needs the rallies.

    He could go back and do his daily C-19 briefings! 😆

  18. Kirky @ #21 Thursday, June 11th, 2020 – 5:32 am

    And those states the virus is on the rise as well.

    Trump is getting desperate. He needs some sound bites so it can be aired on the news. He can’t do that stuck in the White House. He is showing he is weak at the moment. That’s his play at the moment – he needs the rallies.

    Stuck in the WH behind 3 fences to boot!

  19. lizzie @ #21 Thursday, June 11th, 2020 – 7:36 am

    @YaThinkN
    ·
    8m
    Good Dog! Someone in Government give Lisa Millar
    @breakfastnews a bloody comms job with them now.

    The language used about ‘red-hot anger’ with tourism being closed down etc., is not in any way ‘balanced’ at all!

    That would be Lisa Millar whose father was a Country Party MP then? The apple doesn’t seem to have fallen far from the tree.

  20. C@t

    Twitter not happy with either of the presenters today.

    Edit: I never watch Breakfast news. I found it incredibly shallow and at the same time irritating.

  21. lizzie @ #30 Thursday, June 11th, 2020 – 7:53 am

    C@t

    Twitter not happy with either of the presenters today.

    They are positively supine wrt the Coalition. When called out about it previously they resort to the go to line that they must be balanced because when they criticise the Coalition they get angry Tweets but when they say something supportive of the Coalition they get angry Tweets from Labor supporters! I think there’s a bit more to it than that.

  22. Lord Downer speaks.

    Alexander Downer
    @AlexanderDowner
    · 8h
    Let’s try to be balanced. For decades Australian governments Liberal and Labor have tried to help indigenous Australians. They may have failed but their motives have been good.

  23. Lizzie
    Much like many social policies which goes to show why we need to take a deep hard look at how the state is performing and how to fix it.

  24. Edit: I never watch Breakfast news. I found it incredibly shallow and at the same time irritating.

    Yep – it’s total fluff: “light entertainment”, not news. There’s enough of that crap on commercial channels.

    Heaven forbid if anyone choked on their cornflakes by seeing actual news!

  25. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    The diplomatic stoush between China and Australia is hotting up, with education now in the firing line.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/chinese-students-will-not-go-there-beijing-education-agents-warn-australia-20200610-p55151.html
    Anthony Galloway reports on a federal Labor senator calling for Australia to diversify its export markets away from China to prevent the trade relationship being used as “a weapon to secure our silence against injustice” in the wake of Beijing’s move to impose a new national security law on Hong Kong.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/diversify-from-china-to-stop-trade-being-used-as-a-weapon-labor-senator-says-20200610-p55159.html
    Niki Savva recons Morrison is sending out ministers to do the harder yards.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/its-the-pms-show-he-doesnt-take-out-the-garbage/news-story/ee7ef73f75c341b2c5bb4482aa048fa3
    Nine Media tells us that travellers should be free to cross all state borders from July under a new push by Scott Morrison to remove barriers he blames for costing jobs and putting tourism at risk.
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-urges-state-and-territory-leaders-to-open-borders-in-july-20200610-p551d1.html
    David Crowe says Liberal electorates were some of the big winners from a Morrison government program to back Australian exporters before the last election, sparking a row over whether the taxpayer funds helped by political support. Surely not another round of rorts!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-claims-export-grants-program-was-used-to-win-election-20200610-p551ex.html
    Shane Wright tells us about the financial risks laying ahead in the event of a second Australian pandemic wave.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/second-virus-wave-would-derail-australian-economy-oecd-20200610-p55148.html
    Daniel Hirst reveals that almost 200 Australian childcare providers are being investigated over breaching Covid-19 funding rules.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/11/almost-200-australian-childcare-providers-being-investigated-over-covid-19-funding-rules
    Jess Irvine looks at the difficult task the government faces as it begins to “turn off the taps” of public spending in response to the pandemic.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/jobkeeper-is-not-a-keeper-so-let-s-start-the-weaning-phase-20200610-p55182.html
    And Paul Karp reports on the AiG saying that the removal of the jobkeeper wage subsidy and coronavirus supplement to unemployment benefits will result in a “difficult period of high risk, uncertainty and anxiety for businesses and households”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/10/ending-jobkeeper-and-welfare-boost-is-high-risk-for-businesses-and-households
    The OECD expects Australia’s recession to be less severe than the rest of the world, but maintaining the performance will require further stimulus and reform.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/australia-leads-on-economic-recovery-oecd-20200610-p5514b
    The Australian reports that tens of billions of dollars worth of construction projects with the ­potential to create thousands of jobs are caught up in stagnating planning processes, sparking calls for councils to fast-track building approvals to turbocharge the post-pandemic economic recovery.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/local-government-told-to-unlock-19bn-of-construction-projects/news-story/1f22e7c32078651dbddac74a2687b089
    Max Kozlowski reports that a drastic increase in racism complaints has seen a coalition of 30 community groups join to demand a bipartisan national anti-racism strategy across health, housing, education and the workplace. Things seem to be coming to a head.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-wake-up-call-and-opportunity-call-for-a-national-anti-racism-strategy-as-complaints-spike-20200610-p551ah.html
    According to law academics Deb Wilkinson and Peter Burnett the government-approved destruction of the Juukan Gorge shelters in the Pilbara is symptomatic of the problems with Australia’s heritage laws. They are carefully crafted in favour of development interests. The laws typically protect sites that face no threat from development while offering only process to those that do.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-law-betrays-the-lore-so-we-ll-destroy-our-ancient-heritage-again-20200610-p55195.html
    Katharine Murphy writes that the home affairs department has warned foreign interference activity against Australian interests is occurring at an “unprecedented scale” and says measures to help people to identify fake news could be one of the potential responses to defending sovereignty.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/11/home-affairs-flags-steps-to-help-australians-identify-fake-news-by-foreign-powers
    The COVID-19 crisis and China’s threats have revealed the large cracks in the Australian university sector despite all the claims about the success of international education, writes Jennifer Hewett.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/time-s-up-for-universities-facing-china-risk-20200610-p55192
    The ACTU has argued that businesses that have survived the pandemic recession will face less competition and be better placed to digest a 4 per cent pay rise.
    https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/workplace/less-competition-justifies-30-wage-hike-actu-20200610-p55190
    The housing market is holding up, but falling car sales signal the economic downturn explains Greg Jericho.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2020/jun/11/while-the-housing-market-is-holding-up-falling-car-sales-signal-the-economic-downturn
    The toppling of statues overseas might give Australia pause to reconsider who we celebrate writes Paul Daley.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/postcolonial-blog/2020/jun/10/the-toppling-of-statues-overseas-might-give-australia-pause-to-reconsider-who-we-celebrate
    The SMH editorial speaks of stopping the shadow pandemic of domestic violence.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-to-stop-the-shadow-pandemic-of-domestic-violence-20200610-p551an.html
    Has the COVID-19 pandemic led to an increase in family violence? Police, courts and agencies working with abuse survivors have given conflicting accounts explains these three criminologists.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/did-lockdown-really-trigger-an-upsurge-in-family-violence-20200610-p55194.html
    The AFR explains how AustralianSuper, the country’s biggest superannuation fund, has taken a stake in affordable housing developer Assemble Communities and expects to invest “a couple of hundred million” dollars annually in the company’s pipeline of homes that occupants rent for five years before buying.
    https://www.afr.com/property/residential/australiansuper-takes-25pc-stake-in-build-to-rent-platform-20200609-p5510k
    Richard Denniss says that the Coalition is dishing out jobs for the boys while women carry coronavirus’ economic burden.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/10/the-coalition-dishes-out-jobs-for-the-boys-while-women-carry-coronavirus-economic-burden
    Katie Burgess on yet another intemperate, ignorant outburst from Pauline Hanson.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6788591/where-is-the-outrage-for-white-people-pauline-hanson-hits-out-at-black-lives-matter-protesters/?cs=14329#gsc.tab=0
    Abul Rizvi examines the forecast of net overseas migration for the following decade under current government visa policies.
    https://independentaustralia.net/australia/australia-display/forecast-of-net-overseas-migration-for-the-2020s,13978
    Political economist Chad Satterlie delves into the concept of government owned businesses.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6788291/are-government-owned-enterprises-inherently-inefficient/?cs=14258#gsc.tab=0
    Tom Rabe explains how the NSW government has received some advice from a transport expert to use the pandemic as a catalyst to review all business cases for multibillion-dollar infrastructure projects.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/calls-for-nsw-to-review-transport-projects-amid-covid-19-crisis-20200610-p551dh.html
    Bondholders risk walking away from a Virgin Australia fire sale empty handed, with aviation restructuring experts predicting the airline’s new owner will leave nothing on the table for institutions and hundreds of “mum and dad” investors. Patrick Hatch writes that hardball is now being played as crunch time approaches.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/virgin-bondholders-will-get-nothing-after-failed-creditor-play-20200609-p550yw.html
    Charlotte Grieve reports that the Commonwealth Bank of Australia has been served with a class action by customers who claim they were sold insurance they were never eligible to collect on. Nice!
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/cba-hit-with-class-action-over-notoriously-worthless-insurance-20200610-p5519w.html
    David Crowe writes about the increasing calls for action over the inequality of indigenous incarceration rates.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nothing-changes-indigenous-leader-wants-action-on-incarceration-rate-20200610-p551dn.html
    Share markets are currently operating with bizarre optimism. What the Fed says after its two-day meeting concludes in Washington will go a long way to determining what happens next, writes Stephen Bartholomeusz.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-fed-could-prolong-the-sharemarket-s-surge-or-blow-it-up-20200610-p55170.html
    And the London Daily Telegraph says investors have either forgotten why authorities are having to take wartime counter measures, or ignore that a V-shaped economic recovery isn’t happening anywhere.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/sharemarkets-have-been-pocketing-a-recovery-that-does-not-yet-exist-20200610-p5512t.html
    Michael Pascoe wonders if share markets are experiencing ‘a dead bat bounce’.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2020/06/11/sharemarkets-dead-bat-bounce-pascoe/
    An obsession with “balancing the budget” has left Australia is under-funded despite its immense wealth. A dual citizen of Norway and Australia, Kim Wingerei laments the lost opportunity of a century, the failure of our political classes to establish a sovereign wealth fund. But it’s still not too late to stop the flood of our natural resources overseas.
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/australia-under-funded-despite-our-wealth/
    Killian Plastow explains how solar power financing is leaving customers badly burned.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/consumer/2020/06/10/solar-power-finance-bnpl/
    More from Sally Rawsthorne on the ongoing Ruby Princess inquiry. The commissioner expressed dismay at the low number of tests that were undertaken.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/letting-ruby-princess-passengers-disembark-reasonable-says-nsw-health-official-20200610-p55176.html
    Leaked invoices reveal for the first time that insurers have agreed to cover work on the politically contentious Adani coal mine.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/kept-under-lock-and-key-adani-secures-insurer-support-for-carmichael-mine-20200609-p550qh.html
    With 100 days to go, can Jacinda Ardern maintain her extraordinary popularity asks political science professor, Jack Vowles.
    https://theconversation.com/an-election-like-no-other-with-100-days-to-go-can-jacinda-ardern-maintain-her-extraordinary-popularity-140252
    Former US District Judge John Gleeson has said that the government had “engaged in highly irregular conduct to benefit a political ally of the President” in pushing to dismiss the Michael Flynn case.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/ex-judge-says-push-to-dismiss-michael-flynn-case-is-abuse-of-power-20200611-p551g5.html
    The acerbic John Crace describes how the sloth-like Boris Johnson escaped capture during a fleeting parliamentary appearance.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/10/sloth-like-boris-johnson-escapes-capture-during-fleeting-appearance
    To the far right, attacks on protesters as enemies of ‘western culture’ are a gift, writes Peter Mitchell.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/10/attacks-protesters-enemies-western-culture-traction-far-right
    Bloomberg’s Gregory Korte says ‘recession president’ is a title that Trump will struggle to shake off.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/recession-president-is-a-title-trump-will-struggle-to-shake-off-20200610-p5511y.html
    Has Ivanka Trump finally been cancelled?
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/10/has-ivanka-trump-finally-been-cancelled
    Charlotte Grieve introduces us to today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week”, celebrity financial adviser, Sam Henderson.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/former-celebrity-financial-adviser-charged-with-dishonest-conduct-20200610-p551d8.html

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  26. Last time the ABC had a raft of “voluntary redundancies” we lost some very experienced and knowledgeable political commentators and ended up with a few young potential good ones, and also eventually Jane Norman. How low can we go?

  27. Great Labor minds think alike I see :

    Anthony Galloway reports on a federal Labor senator calling for Australia to diversify its export markets away from China to prevent the trade relationship being used as “a weapon to secure our silence against injustice” in the wake of Beijing’s move to impose a new national security law on Hong Kong.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/diversify-from-china-to-stop-trade-being-used-as-a-weapon-labor-senator-says-20200610-p55159.html

    😀

  28. The hypocrisy by the media and lib/nats are shown again

    They can not have it both ways , claiming to be worried about a 2nd wave happening from the protest , yet in the same breath wanting the borders to open.

  29. I nearly choked on the water I was drinking when I started to read the following piece –

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-campaign-seeks-retraction-of-cnn-poll-showing-biden-in-the-lead-20200611-p551gj.html

    Could it be that Emperor Donald the First’s sycophantic toadies are so afraid of him getting angry and upset that they have to resort to such utter childish garbage.

    On a side note: What’s the bet that the Reichspud and his missus were first in line to cash in the Jobkeeper payment for their Big Brother camps…I mean, childcare centres and most probably be the last to stop collecting it?

  30. How modern Labor is this!

    The Minister approves the destruction of Aboriginal (Australian) heritage sites but “urges” BHP to co-operate!!

    “Western Australian minister for Aboriginal affairs, Ben Wyatt, confirmed he approved the South Flank expansion on 29 May, three days after the destruction of Juukan Gorge made global headlines.

    But he has urged BHP to cooperate with the Banjima under what are now “changed circumstances”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/bhp-to-destroy-at-least-40-aboriginal-sites-up-to-15000-years-old-to-expand-pilbara-mine

  31. The contempt for Trump oozes from every lawyerly word:

    Kyle Griffin
    @kylegriffin1

    CNN General Counsel to Team Trump: “Your letter is factually and legally baseless. It is yet another bad faith attempt by the campaign to threaten litigation to muzzle speech it does not want voters to read or hear. Your allegations and demands are rejected in their entirety.”

  32. Bec Carver:

    [‘I’d spend more time internalizing and inwardly debating your viewpoints – and discussing them with all the “great people I know” on any number of issues if you didn’t belligerently come across as an “always right” prick.’]

    Bucephalus is essentially an agent provocateur. In his defence, he does have a military background in the army reserve. In my experience, most former and serving members of the ADF tend to be law and order types, who have a condescending view of civilians, especially progressives, more pronounced in the US & the UK but nevertheless not dissimilar to here.

  33. On a side note: What’s the bet that the Reichspud and his missus were first in line to cash in the Jobkeeper payment for their Big Brother camps…I mean, childcare centres and most probably be the last to stop collecting it?
    ____
    Kronomex
    That did immediately spring to mind when I was posting the link.

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