Firstly, as per the above post, don’t forget to give generously to the Poll Bludger’s bi-monthly donation drive. Now to an assembly of recent events in the worlds of polling and Eden-Monaro:
• The Guardian reports the latest Essential Research poll includes the pollster’s monthly leadership ratings, which find Scott Morrison’s approval up a point to a new high of 65% and disapproval down a point to a new low of 26%, reflecting continuous improvement since a nadir of 39% and 52% in February. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is 53-23, compared with 50-25 last time. Albanese stands at 43% approval, up one, and 30% disapproval, up three. These numbers have been used to update the BludgerTrack trends, which can be see on the sidebar or in detail here, showing Morrison now at a plateau after his recent ascent.
• The Essential poll also finds 41% saying Jobkeeper reporting bungle reflected negatively on the federal government, compared with 43% saying it did not. “A third” wanted Jobkeeper broadened in response, along with another 20% who wanted the eligibility criteria broadened, while 45% preferred that it go to reducing the debt. The poll also featured a semi-regular suite of questions on the leaders’ attributes, which have become more favourable for both leaders across the board since January. This is especially so in the case of Morrison, and still more especially in the case of his ratings for good in a crisis (66%), leadership capability (70%) and trustworthiness (66%), which have yo-yoed between the bushfire and coronavirus crises. These ratings will be available to review in detail when the full report is published later day. UPDATE: Full report here.
• A poll by the Australia Institute finds 77% support across the country for state border closures. Labor and Greens supporters are somewhat more in favour, One Nation supporters somewhat less so. The poll was conducted online on May 27 and 28 from a sample of 1005. Small-sample state breakdowns suggested Western Australians were particularly supportive, at 88%, a finding consistent with …
• The West Australian ($) had a poll yesterday that recorded a remarkable 89% in favour of keeping the state’s borders closed, with which the state government is persisting in the face of criticism from the federal government and New South Wales government. Presumably the poll had more to it than that, but that’s all there is in the report. The poll was conducted online by Painted Dog Research on Thursday from a sample of 1000.
Eden-Monaro latest:
• With a week still to go before the closure of nominations, the ABC by-election guide records ten candidates and counting, including Cathy Griff for the Greens, Matthew Stadtmiller for Shooters Fishers and Farmers, sundry candidates for the Liberal Democrats, Science Party, Christian Democrats and Sustainable Australia, and two independents. The Nationals have also opened nominations, although they have not traditionally polled strongly in the seat. The deluge has prompted Antony Green to argue that all candidates should be required to produce 100 locally enrolled nominators. This burden is currently imposed only on independents, exemption being a perk of party registration.
• The Australian Electoral Commission has announced its service plan for the by-election, detailing special measures arising from COVID-19. A familiar set of social distancing rules will apply at polling booths, and mobile polling will not be conducted as normal at hospitals and aged care facilities, where “support teams” will instead assist with postal and telephone voting (the latter still only available to the visually impaired).
Fulvio Sammut says:
Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 10:31 pm
Dads are like that, Bushfire.
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Unless before he beats you asks ‘do you want the belt or the stick?’
Right, Churchill was shit because Hitler and Japan were idiots. That makes sense.
Without Churchill taking up the fight to Hitler either the UK would have made a peace deal or lost (same same). Hitler would then have had the run of Europe and the Middle East. Without Churchill’s efforts the US would likely have remained neutral. The Ribbentrop Pact would likely have remained in place.
What in unimaginably horrific place the World would be now.
As for Einstein, yes he was a scientific giant – probably the greatest of the 20th Century but he didn’t have such an impact as saving Western Europe from Nazi and Stalinist domination and quite possibly the Far East from Japanese domination.
I note everyone talking up Curtin continue to avoid mentioning his terrible racism.
Bucephalus says:
Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 10:35 pm
The Ribbentrop Pact would likely have remained in place.
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yes I can see that being a very stable and peaceful border for many decades. 🙂
Some are greater than others.
The older you get, the more you appreciate the good and forgive the bad.
Mostly.
Bucephalus @ #1838 Thursday, June 4th, 2020 – 8:35 pm
Everything’s about fighting for you, isn’t it?
Wars usually start because someone’s ego was too big, often there’s more than one.
A war starting is the ultimate failure of those in power and the price is paid by others, rarely themselves.
Peaceful achievement versus war achievements, ones got a huge head start in my books and it ain’t war.
Definitely Einstein.
Barney,
It’s not about fighting but so many of the viewpoints promulgated here are so out of touch with most Australians that I see it as my duty to provide counter balance.
Bucephalus @ #1957 Thursday, June 4th, 2020 – 8:55 pm
Is that why you’re so keen to avoid using supported facts in your arguments?
I will take your noms for Person of the 20th Century and put up Grace Hopper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper
otherwise we probably would not be discussing the subject over the intertubes.
Great people exist outside wars, remember.
I look favourably on Churchill, while acknowledging his flaws.
Not Turing?
Bucephalus @ #1962 Thursday, June 4th, 2020 – 10:55 pm
Would you rather be typing this in computer symbols than English?
Guyraur
It is a reduction of 20% in economic activity
Or perhaps a bit less – if the last 20% of hours has diminishing productivity
Or probably quite a bit more – if the restrictions hit (hourly) productivty as well as hours (almost certainly the case)
The cash shortfall can be addressed with money – JobKeeper “Gold”!
But it’s the activity / output shortfall that is the real problem
Tesla would come before Turing.
Who was the worst leader of the last 150 years?
Greatest man of the 20th century? Dead heat between Stalin and Mao.
Stalin for converting the USSR into a modern industrial power and for playing a seminal role in the Soviet defeat of Germany and it’s allies.
Mao for freeing China from European imperialism and enabling the development of China as a great economic power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdaB-Ul5hyA
Saw this on ABC earlier. Haven’t followed it up but the numbers are interesting
15 percent of covid cases asymptomatic based on a study I haven’t check out. Lower than the 30-40 percent that’s been suggested elsewhere. If its only 15% that’s actually a good thing.
Also, it says that being asymptomatic means you’re one third less likely to be infectious. Reason given is you’re not coughing. Hmm… maybe. Even so its social distancing that is dong the grunt work here.
Funny isn’t that when we think of “great” people we think of leaders. Rather than thinking about the people actually responsible for material progress – scientists and engineers. Its technology that has improved the lot of us hairless chimps, not political systems.
Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Nicholas 2, Kaiser Wilhelm 2, Hirohito, Foreign Minister Edward Grey, Trump, Nixon…there must be many more… Kissinger, Shah Reza Pahlavi, Brezhnev, Mussolini, Franco….
It’s easier to find disaster than greatness…
Diogenes:
Them’s Fightin Words!
But please elaborate.
Fulvio Sammut @ #1954 Thursday, June 4th, 2020 – 10:39 pm
Blessed are the cheese eaters.
Maybe Scotty should:
a) ask in advance, and
b) use Puke’s lawn next time?
Define “cheese”.
Einstein was lucky because of the change of century, and people kinda, sorta understand gravity (but not relativity).
But “Greatest Person”??
Gandhi?
‘ After we found hundreds of police officers in racist and extremist groups on Facebook, we tried to get the worst offenders’ disciplinary records from police departments.
Almost all wouldn’t give them to us.
They don’t have to.‘
https://www.revealnews.org/article/inside-hate-groups-on-facebook-police-officers-trade-racist-memes-conspiracy-theories-and-islamophobia/
Worst: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot.
Special Mention: Chavez
Trump’s secrecy about his health-says so much about his character-(or lack thereof)
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/04/politics/donald-trump-physical-health/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
How Newark protests were handled differently.
There was no violence. No “looting,” or violent police. There was even dancing. It stood in stark contrast to five decades ago.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/newark-protests-nonviolence-lessons.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Davidwh
The scheme is flawed. It would make better sense to implement a 15% subsidy for all projects over $10,000 up to a maximum subsidy of $150,000.
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That makes a lot more sense and i think would achieve something.
Mavis says:
Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 7:45 pm
I can’t but help to think that with Mattis’ intervention, the paradigm has markedly shifted. Many serving senior officers would owe their promotion to him; so who do they owe their allegiance to? To a draft-dodging sociopath, or to a man who seems to be endowed with a degree of honour. Mind you, why he signed up to Trump is a mystery. That said, I’m willing to stick my neck out, predicting that Trump will be trounced in a landslide on November, 3.
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That could be explained by the American culture of serving the state and he might have thought he could do the job and Trump would respect him enough to do that job only to find out that Trump is as bad as the critics say he is.
Pegasus says:
Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 7:33 pm
Morrison says Australia should not import Black Lives Matter protests after deaths-in-custody rally
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Yet the reactionary faction of the LNP likes to import the policies pushed by Trump and the Fox crowd.
Churchill proves the saying not to judge historical people by today’s standards and highlights what is wrong with today’s politics because he made big mistakes that would sink politicians today but back then they were allowed to bounce back which Churchill did.
Worst leaders of the last 150 years?
Hitler – Mao – Stalin – Pol Pot.
Tser Nicholas II not because he was necessarily a terrible person but if only he had reformed Russia into a constitutional monarchy then much would be different.
Franz Joseph of Austria for allowing grief to override better judgement when responding to the assassination of his son and heir in 1914.
Bluebottle @ #1973 Friday, June 5th, 2020 – 12:24 am
The worst thing about this event was the mocking and joking by Morrison after.
I thought he handled the incident quite well, but once he thought the cameras were off he reverted to something we have seen before.
Nephew, actually. And Frank Joe didn’t even like him that much.
The divvying up of proceeds in class action often ends like this.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/bitter-split-over-toxic-foam-payout-as-legal-costs-slammed-20200604-p54zoh.html
Still unaware of an instance in which a member of a class action feels like they’ve achieved justice and vindication in the process.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52915807
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/04/coronavirus-live-updates-us/#link-EGI4D6XY7ZCYZNB7S43Z4D6KTA
I may be missing something but I don’t think Australia has had any ‘green’ initiatives in any of our stimulus measures.
New thread.
Re the Reno Rorts. In my neighbourhood, there is a couple who just sold their home a month ago and are moving down south to the Murray River. They have plans to build a new home. They were just ready to sign a contract to start building their new home. Along comes, Reno Rorts and all they have to do is delay by a day in signing the contract and they qualify for a $25,000 grant. I say good luck to them.
However, there will be no stimulation with this grant, no extra tradesmen used, no new construction, no jobs saved. Just someone who has the money to build a new home at the place and the right time to receive a $25,000 gift. How many are there in the same situation or near the same situation, how lucky are they?
Just scrolled the entire ‘top stories’ front page of the smh. No recession, no Robodebt.
One opinion piece on Homebuilder (critical).
Otherwise it’s all sweet!
Feel like singing three choruses of Morristan My Home before brekkie!!
Muskiemp @ #1992 Friday, June 5th, 2020 – 8:18 am
How lucky are we to be living in the glorious one-party state of Morristan!
Make that FOUR choruses of Morristan My Home before brekkie!!!
Rex,
Covid19 does not exist in SA, it left weeks ago. You might have it in Vic and NSW but has effectively been removed from the rest of Australia.
And if people want to protest, it is their right and they suffer the consequences (catching Covid) even though it is highly unlikely.
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #1985 Friday, June 5th, 2020 – 5:40 am
‘mocking and joking’?
What’s that?
Is that something Labor might find useful?
mundo @ #1996 Friday, June 5th, 2020 – 8:31 am
If only Labor could have a Get Off My Lawn cut-through moment one day.
But, in the meantime……2,3,4,
Mooo-rristan! My Moooooo-rristan
My Hoooome, My Glorious Hoooooome
Moooo-rri…..etc
“ Who was the worst leader of the last 150 years?”
Churchill
Who was NOT the greatest person of the twentieth century? Tony Abbott, John Howard, Peter Costello, Billy Snedden? Rupert Murdoch?
Joe Hockey.