The fortnightly Essential Research poll focuses, naturally enough, on coronavirus, with 45% rating the federal government’s response good or very good, and 29% poor or very poor. According to The Guardian’s report, it would seem the latter tend to be those most worried about the virus, as measured by a question on whether respondents felt the situation was being overblown, with which “one third” agreed while 28% thought the opposite.
Over the course of three fortnightly polls, the proportion rating themselves very concerned has escalated from 25% to 27% to 39%, while the results for quite concerned have gone from 43% to 36% and back again. The Guardian’s report does not relate the latest results for “not that concerned” and “not at all concerned”, which were actually up in the last poll, from 26% to 28% and 6% to 9% respectively. Further questions relate to trust in various sources of information, notably the government and the media, but we will have to wait for the publication of the full report later today to get a clear handle on them. Suffice to say that Essential still has nothing to tell us on voting intention.
In other findings, 49% said they wanted the opposition to fall in behind the government’s decisions while 33% preferred that it review and challenge them, and 42% now consider themselves likely to catch the virus, up from 31% on a fortnight ago. Seventy-two per cent reported washing their hands more often, 60% said they were avoiding social gatherings, and 33% reported stocking up on groceries.
We also have a Roy Morgan SMS survey of 723 respondents, which was both conducted and published yesterday, showing 79% support for the government’s decision to allow those in financial difficulty to access $20,000 of their superannuation. As noted in the previous post, an earlier such poll of 974 respondents from Wednesday and Thursday recorded levels of trust in various Australian politicians (plus Jacinda Ardern, who fared best of all); a further set of results from the same poll finds Dick Smith, Mike Cannon-Brookes, Andrew Forrest and Alan Joyce rating best out of designated list of business leaders, with Rupert Murdoch, Clive Palmer, Gina Rinehart and Gerry Harvey performed worst. We are yet to receive hard numbers from either set of questions, but they are apparently forthcoming.
UPDATE: Full report from Essential Research here.
Lizzie around where I live the shop assistant points at the paywave machine for the customer to tap their card. The credit card remains in customer’s hand
My local store is crowded but a brand new store with wide aisles has opened 5km away so I might do my weekly shop there. They always have people wiping down the steel & glass cabinets
My preference is to shop daily but as stores are germ vectors, I will discipline myself to weekly shop after the deliveries have arrived. I love the Aldi special buys but not this year
Simon Katich says: Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:11 pm
RFK did speeches like few since have managed to emulate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt7IuKoETEc
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The recent SBS documentary – * The Kennedys – A Fatal Ambition* gave a clue to the family of members that gave up their lives to perhaps giving us a much greater and better world that could have been if not for the many fatal deaths that the Kennedy family suffered
It works the other way, too.
In a local Coles the other day I ordered some pre-sliced salami. The delicatessan lady was doing alright, employing the “inside-out bag” technique.
That is… until she found her sampling was 30 grammes over the 200g I’d ordered. She stuffed her bare hand into the bag and removed a few slices before I could stop her.
I nicely asked her for a new batch, this time with her wearing gloves.
I copped an earful for my trouble. She didn’t have a clue.
South African police were firing rubber bullets at shoppers not standing 1.5m apart.
Indian police were using bamboo poles to enforce crowd control.
Aussie police need to toughen up ?
poroti
Its true, you find a lot of really nice people in the US.
But scratch further and you find a lot of people who are charming to you, but keep a gun in their glove box and accept without question things like corporate welfare and food stamps. They’ve never known anything different.
There’s also a lot of ugly Americans, nasty, rude, selfish and a lot of working poor. And homeless camps and trailer parks. And ill-educated, illiterate people who believe in Noah’s Ark and every kind of idiocy you can think of, all because anti-science runs deep in the culture.
Don’t get me wrong. There’s a lot of well educated, sensible, “liberal” people too. But mainly in cities. Its very much a divided between cities and small towns. And remember the US is less urbanised than here so the small town folk have a greater weight.
VP
I imagine that lathis are fomites and that their deployment would defeat the purpose. Plus, (in the footage I have seen) some of the close-in lathi work was at distances of less than 2 metres.
The sounds of ribs cracking must echo the sense of social distance in more ways than one, IMO.
I spent a lot of time in small town Texas, about 60 miles out of Dallas.
Tune into the news and you get 28 minutes of local news, 90 seconds of news from the rest of the US and if you’re lucky you get one mention of something happening in the rest of the world.
They really are that insular.
many fatal deaths that the Kennedy family suffered
I have yet to hear about a non-fatal death. (Apart from Jesus that is).
The older Kennedy died in a truly idiotic way during WW2.
Steve777 @ #4641 Sunday, March 29th, 2020 – 2:38 pm
I have heard of colesworth stores with one way markers in the aisles, to reduce the need to pass each other.
Cud Chewer says: Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:25 pm
There’s also a lot of ugly Americans, nasty, rude, selfish and a lot of working poor. And homeless camps and trailer parks. And ill-educated, illiterate people who believe in Noah’s Ark and every kind of idiocy you can think of, all because anti-science runs deep in the culture.
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Come to Gippsland – that describes many locals – perhaps without as many guns as their US counterparts
RI
WA has tested all workers with a temp > 38C in health, disability and aged care plus all patients with a respiratory infection for a while now.
Nearly all positives so far are travellers or their close contacts.
If there was a significant number of cases wandering around the community then we would be overrun with very sick people like the USA or Italy.
I hope this helps.
OC:
What therapies are provided to the non-intubated patients in the ICU?
Can these therapies be provided outside of ICU? thus leaving ICU essentially dedicated to intubated ventilation?
How much intubated ventilation is prone?
Is prone useful for non-intubated patients? (I would imagine it help to expel things from lungs mechanically, but is is feasible?)
In:
– https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26639&v=GuOXYDkBb0k&feature=emb_logo
at 1:34:27, Italians have:
A – (N=1300 dataset) in ICU:
– 88% mechanical ventilation
– 11% non invasive ventilation (note they have lots more NIV outside the ICU)
– suspect 88% includes patients who’ve had both, 11% is NIV only
B – (N=875 dataset) in ICU:
– 27% prone ventilation
C – (N=498 dataset) in ICU:
– 1% (i.e. 5 pts) ECMO
French (Paris) in the ECMO section of the video (Prof Alain Combes ECMO session starts 4 hours 55 minutes in, Paris experience is 5 hours 7 minutes) have had 70 pts on ECMO (seemingly about half the ECMO pts in Europe, 45 of the 70 in one hospital under supervision of Prof Combes) and have managed to wean three pts off it so far (back to ventilation of some sort?)
Assantdj says:
Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:01 pm
Am I correct in assuming that the sharing the pain that Cormann was talking about is in relation to one of the comments earlier this week ( I think from Scomo ) that employee entitlements could be used to assist retailers to manage this ongoing crisis.
In my mind entitlements such as Annual and Long Servive leave are actually deferred wages belonging to the employee.
So you think the employer will be able to use long service leave, annual leave to remain afloat. W O W (not Woolworths)
The other comment from insiders was at the end of the program when the journalist in the studio said that public servants still working should take a pay cut like everyone else affected ( or words to that effect) Does he realise health care workers are public servants, at the moment they deserve a large serve of danger money.
The Herald Sun editor infuriated me with his demand that public servants take a 10% pay cut. Immediately realised this going to be a long deep depression in Australia. New Zealand may be in the sunny uplands by Christmas but not us.
I agree that public servants are not appreciated by the media
CC
Definitely. I’ve since come to realise the people I met,mingled and sometimes stayed with were definitely not a “representative sample”. Very much university types from UCLA, Stanford and San Diego.
phoenix
Yep the same city/country educated/unedcuated divide can be found here
In the US the political map might as well be an education standards map.
And I’ll refrain from speaking about Queensland.. 🙂
BW
Stick to just the rubber bullets ?
The thought of broken ribs on top of getting Corona might be a deterrent in itself.
Having said that, dunno how many times I got 6 of the best during my school time. The frequency suggesting it wasn’t effective as a deterrent.
For want of something better to do as the rainstorm arrived this arvo, I watched a couple of American competitive cooking shows. The combinations of strange foods that they seem to enjoy are unbelievable. I suppose you have to be brought up to it.
Don’t get me wrong. There’s a lot of well educated, sensible, “liberal” people too.
The Liberals I know were small business people with no appreciation of accountability, auditability
Governor Gipps Land has a huge array of peeps with every imaginable variety of political view, personal values, yada yada yada.
Classic racist diatribe, right down to the “Don’t get me wrong…” excuse.
● Demeaning denigration of a demographic, without considering there are “ugly, nasty, rude, selfish” people everywhere, in every country;
● “Anti-science runs deep in the culture” is a classic racist generalization;
● “Don’t get me wrong…” is tantamount to “I’m not a racist, but…” as a cop-out.
● If you think I’m talking rubbish it only shows what a sad case you are. I pity you.
Sorry Cuddy, but you can be expecting a knock on the door from Zoidy anytime soon.
Cud – I lived in Iowa and Minnesota for a couple of years, I remember when arriving in Iowa from Chicago driving past huge religious signs.
Still keep in touch with people in Iowa, one who I was very close to has a son in the military and is very pro Trump. She sees supporting Trump as patriotic.
When Hillary Clinton made the basket of deplorables comment I knew she was in trouble. Similar to Howard tapping in to ‘Howards battlers’.
As you point out there is not as much people in the suburbs over there but heaps and heaps in very small rural towns that Trump taps in to
‘lizzie says:
Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:33 pm
For want of something better to do as the rainstorm arrived this arvo, I watched a couple of American competitive cooking shows. The combinations of strange foods that they seem to enjoy are unbelievable. I suppose you have to be brought up to it.’
Horseshoe Bats? Civet Cats? Pangolins?
Greensborough Growler:
For dry hands due to all the hand-washing, I highly recommend the “Hemp Hand Protector” product from The Body Shop. Moisturises incredibly well.
lizzie @ #4693 Sunday, March 29th, 2020 – 5:05 pm
Even before the virus gets them, there are some truly sick people out there 🙁
‘Vogon Poet says:
Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:33 pm
BW
Stick to just the rubber bullets ?
The thought of broken ribs on top of getting Corona might be a deterrent in itself.
Having said that, dunno how many times I got 6 of the best during my school time. The frequency suggesting it wasn’t effective as a deterrent.’
I sometimes wonder if the canings I received triggered the issues I have with my hands as we post.
‘caf says:
Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:38 pm
Greensborough Growler:
For dry hands due to all the hand-washing, I highly recommend the “Hemp Hand Protector” product from The Body Shop. Moisturises incredibly well.’
Do you smoke that? Bake it into cookies? What?
Boerwar
No pangolins. 🙂 It’s the combinations that got me.
Boerwar says: Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:36 pm
Governor Gipps Land has a huge array of peeps with every imaginable variety of political view, personal values, yada yada yada.
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True Boerwar – but I think us LV people lead the state in terms of crime and obesity if the local LV Express local newspaper is to be taken as gospel ……. but am sure other such pockets exist within OZ boundaries ….
Cud Chewer
A big +10000 there. It was one of my big take outs from what is different about the US. Every town and city I went to the tv viewing was as if the outside world did not exist. A strange combo of global super power and hick town insularity
Bushfire Bill @ #4722 Sunday, March 29th, 2020 – 5:36 pm
If this is supposed to be ironic humour, it is probably time you realized it is no longer working, BB.
One way or another I have had dealings with quite a large number of Americans over the past five decades.
IMO, they have not dominated world politics for three quarters of a century for nothing.
Amazing peeps, IMO.
Plus, they have sucked in from the rest of the world the best and brightest for the same period. Plenty of intellectual grunt. Huge energy. Good fun to be with.
But… but… but… Trump.
Country Kid:
Very good article.
Complex systems require mathematicians and other who really know their stuff (look at the past 100 years of mathematical economics to see what happens if the mathematics is wrong).
Good data, and data cleaning are essential to construct the mathematical models (and of course to use them)
Complex systems are dynamic and need dynamic models – statements from JAMA Editor in Chief implies they are rejecting static models of COVID19 without further review.
BW,
Off to the Racist Sin-Bin for you BW.
phR
Haha.
Some of my best friends lived in the LV – until they could figure a way of getting the hell out of there.
EGT
I am reminded of the RN chap who thought it would be a good idea to get some bod from the Maths department in either Oxford or Cambridge during WW2. What to do about the war ending situation in which the Brits were losing more ships than they could build?
Application of maths to convoys v single ships independently routed v independent patrols of anti-sub vessels.
No (statistical) brainer.
Convoys it was.
Billie
Money needs goods and services to buy. The herald sun guy does have a point. There will be a lot of money chasing too few goods.
Some people (not me) were wondering why Ohbiden had gone MIA. No comment on the pandemic, hardly anything on the stimulus package and now we have the answer. Another incoherent mess of an interview. Yep Joe Ohbiden, he’s our man for the White House.
This vid gives a perspective on what is happening with Corona virus world wide.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1244119212701990913
phR
My fave (from when I was an adjacent youf, geographically speaking):
Q. What is the definition of ‘confusion’?
A. Father’s Day in the LV.
“Anti-science runs deep in the culture”
And so it does.
GG
I feel sorry for South Korea. They were doing so well but then a whole gang of countries just whipped the pants off them.
Oh, I see, P1.
Pointing out racism is only OK if YOU and your holier-than-thou mates do it, is it?
You reserve to yourself the right to not only turn on the Virtue Signalling tap, but to decide when to turn it off, right?
There was an argument here the other day about whether the phrase “American gun nuts” was racist or not. It was decided by the Committee For Wokeness & Purity that it was.
I would have though that a generalization such as “anti-science runs deep in the culture” passes the racist trope/generalization test quite easily. I’m surprised you didn’t pounce on it. You seem pretty keen to pounce on anything else at the drop of a hat.
I am only asking for consistency.
Boerwar says: Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:44 pm
phR
Haha.
Some of my best friends lived in the LV – until they could figure a way of getting the hell out of there.
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Well – they must have long left and we are left with the dregs – I taught most of the kids at local schools – and I don’t see too many past students – all dead or left ??????
its California Hotel : You can check out any time you like, But you can never leave!’
At least the odd past student I come across warms my heart – “you were the best teacher – the only one who listened to me and treated me like a human being “
Boerwar @ #4743 Sunday, March 29th, 2020 – 5:51 pm
The jockey on the winner should take all the credit!
Bushfire Bill @ #4744 Sunday, March 29th, 2020 – 5:53 pm
Let it go, BB. You are only making yourself look bitter.
UPDATE covid19 reported cases (5pm Qld time)
projected today: 4,148
reported today: 3,969
regression coeff: 0.9964
N: 6
projected tomorrow: 4,601
comments: FWIW
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3,969 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
3,981 https://www.covid19data.com.au/
3,809 https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers
‘Greensborough Growler says:
Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 5:53 pm
Boerwar @ #4743 Sunday, March 29th, 2020 – 5:51 pm
GG
I feel sorry for South Korea. They were doing so well but then a whole gang of countries just whipped the pants off them.
The jockey on the winner should take all the credit!’
Haha. The stewards must be scratching their heads when he comes in for the post race weigh-ins.
Scout
I have relatives and friends in the US. I’ve spent collectively a year living there.
One thing that sticks in my mind is tuning into the radio and then having to go past multiple religious channels. And as I said, there are well educated, enlightened people even amongst Trumpland.
One breath of fresh air I got was listening to an interview with a Texan lady named Molly Ivins (I was wandering a mile-square ranch at the time). She authored “Shrub”.
https://www.amazon.com/Shrub-Short-Happy-Political-George/dp/0375757147