Pestilential as anything

Democracy battles on in the face of adversity in Queensland and (at least for now) Tasmania, as a poll finds most Australians believe the media is exaggerating the crisis (at least for now).

The campaigns for Queensland’s local government elections and Currumbin and Bundamaba state by-elections next Saturday are proceeding in the most trying of circumstances. My guides to the by-elections can be found on the sidebar; I’ll find something to say about the Brisbane City Council elections, which I have thus far neglected entirely, later this week. Updates:

• The Electoral Commission of Queensland relates that 560,000 postal vote applications have been received for the statewide local government elections, which compares with 260,680 postal votes cast at the previous elections in 2016. However, not all applications will result in completed votes being returned – the conversion rate in Queensland at last year’s federal election was 86.0%. There have also been more than 500,000 pre-poll votes, exceeding the 435,828 cast in 2016 with a week left to go. To those understandably reluctant to turn out on so-called polling day next Saturday, the commission has been expanding opening hours at pre-poll booths. All of which will make the results that come in on Saturday night particularly hard to follow.

• A ban has been imposed on the dissemination of how-to-vote cards and canvassing for votes at polling booths. Booth supervisors may allow the material to be displayed at the booths “in a manner deemed appropriate”.

Elsewhere:

• An international poll by Ipsos on attitudes to coronavirus finds 34% of Australians strongly agree, and 35% somewhat agree, with closing borders until the virus “is proved to be contained”, which is about average among the twelve nations surveyed. The survey has been conducted over four waves going back to early February, in which time the number of respondents identifying a very high or high threat to them personally has risen from around 10% to 23%. However, Australians recorded among the highest response in favour of the proposition that the media was exaggerating about the virus, which actually increased over the past fortnight from the high forties to 58%. A notable outlier in respect of all questions is Italy, where only 29% now say the media is exaggerating the threat, slumping from around 80%.

• Tasmanian Attorney-General Elise Archer announced this week that May 2 elections for the Legislative Council seats of Huon and Rosevears are “safe to proceed”, with “significant measures being put in place to maintain public safety”.

• A Roy Morgan SMS poll of 974 respondents asked whether respondents trusted or distrusted a list of current and former politicians that included Jacinda Ardern, but was apparently otherwise entirely Australian. All we are given at this stage is a top ten list of the best net performers, which is headed by Jacinda Ardern and otherwise notable for not including a single male conservative. However, this is all pretty useless without hard numbers, which will apparently be forthcoming “in coming days”.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. I asked yesterday, so I’m not hopeful today, but does anyone know how many c19 test kits are left, nationally or locally even?

  2. “Cud Chewersays:
    Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:03 pm
    Italy now close to one diagnosed covid19 case per 1,000 people.

    Australia at one diagnosed case per 15,800 people – but the real number of infections may be a number of times higher.”

    Indeed, it almost certainly is. But cases in Italy are also most likely much higher than the reported numbers.

    I work for a Norwegian company. They’re certainly not testing everyone over there. One person I work with is pretty certain they have it based on symptoms. As they’re young and healthy, no test for them.

  3. Lizzie,

    The pain that the botched health and economic responses from Morrison will bring to millions of Australians will be long lasting and in many,many cases life threatening.

    Morrison does not care about real people and the effects the next six to twelve months will have on this country. That is the sad part from all of this. He is simply now trying to cover his arse and sections of the media are actively supporting him.

    The Australia that will unfold will not be the Morrison and media version no matter how many times it is repeated.

    Cheers.

  4. ‘Steve777 says:
    Monday, March 23, 2020 at 11:51 am

    I think that a lot of the criticism of Sydney’s Friday beachgoers was over the top.’

    The Right Wing commentariat were all over it. Classic Coalition hate object raves. They ‘forced’ Morrison to act. How selfish of them. There was also the hint of backpacker/foreigner in the tone.

    By way of contrast there has been almost total silence on the church in Ryde that infected up to ten parishioners with social distancing behaviour that was either as bad as, or worse than, the Bondi Beach Huddlers.

  5. “New Zealand is at its level three alert. In the next 24 hours, it will move to level four.”

    Interesting that they have stated from the start what the levels of restriction will be and then advanced through them in a clearly defined manner. Makes you think there is some sort of overall plan. I wonder what that feels like?

  6. Morrison’s stimulus seemed to have basically nothing in it if you’re not a business entity or someone who owns/operates a business entity.

    Telling everyone else to raid their super was only ever going to encourge the share market to dive even further down. Which it has done.

  7. So many questions. Here’s another. Should it be this hard to find the location of your local Fever Clinic? You don’t want them swamped, but crowd control is a thing.

  8. If anyone is still unclear on the numbers risk here, the UK’s Channel 4 has spoken to Hugh Montgomery, who is the director of the UCL Institute for Human Health and Performance at the University College London (and also the guy who discovered an allele of the gene which influence physical fitness, if you need more of his bona fides) about just how contagious Covid-19 is.

    If you had the flu, you would give it to about 1.4 people. Then those people would pass it on and so on, so by the tenth time your flu has been passed around, you are responsible for 14 cases.

    With coronavirus, everyone infected with it, can pass it on to three people (because of how infectious it is), so if those three people pass it on to another three people and so on, until your original infection has been passed on 10 times, you can infect 59,000 people.

    That is 59 thousand.

    That’s why it is considered so dangerous and that is why the world is shutting down.

    FMD!

  9. lizzie says:
    Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:00 am

    Can anyone explain why hairdressers and beauty salons are allowed to keep trading through the shutdown? How can they practise social distancing?
    ————————————–
    If closed then after six months we would look like a country of cousin itt.

  10. Briefly:

    The choice is whether to test-and-trace or clamp. We’ve chosen to clamp. The cost will be measured in the hundreds of billions.

    South Australia has been testing all respiratory swabs for COVID-19, not just those that meet the infection criteria. That’s one reason why the numbers are so high, and also means there is a targeted sample (of the whole population for whom swabs are indicated).

  11. Stuart Robert, who is in charge of government services (like how Centrelink works) has called a door stop for 1.15pm.

    Perhaps he’ll offer a gold watch to anyone who can sort out the mess.

  12. And New York State isnt far behind Italy with its 15,790 cases on Worldometer today – equivalent to 0.81 cases per 1000

  13. a r:

    Endgame C flattens the curve, probably significantly. But doesn’t seem like an actual endgame. For that you need either a vaccine or herd immunity.

    The endgame in Endgame C is “the dance”.

    The dance goes on and on until the music stops.

  14. @EliasLClure
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    1h
    BREAKING: A doctor has called out two North Melbourne footballers for throwing a wild party in Kensington last night – a breach of social distancing rules – More soon
    @abcmelbourne

  15. Daughter has been in touch with work colleagues who are waiting in centrelink lines. Apparently due to at least attempts at social distancing in the lines, the queue is kilometres long.
    Sigh……..

  16. lizzie

    Can anyone explain why hairdressers and beauty salons are allowed to keep trading through the shutdown? How can they practise social distancing?

    I just knew having Bronwyn Bishop on the virus advisory panel was a mistake 🙂

  17. From my daughters observation with people she is in contact with. They are mostly young.
    They are not quite understanding the enormity of the pandemic in health terms.
    Their focus is on loss of job and income

  18. Player One:

    New Zealand ahead of the game again. How long till we follow?

    A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

    Follow the data.

  19. Dr. David A. Lustig
    @drdave1999
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    2h
    Wait, what?!!

    Word just broke that a few months ago, Trump fired a U.S. epidemiologist stationed in Beijing— whose job it was to detect outbreaks of disease in China!!

    Trump needs to be held personally culpable for every American death from COVID-19.
    Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus…
    Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters…
    reuters.com

  20. Stephen Koukoulas
    @TheKouk
    · 2h

    Govt is forcing many businesses to shut down today but are not providing any financial help till AFTER they lodge their March qtr BAS in a few weeks.
    What a misguided shit show – there is zero urgency in the fiscal packages.
    Too late, too small

  21. The right will:
    – Blame the victims.
    – Play the victim.
    – Cast those raising the alarm as the source of the problem.
    – Sell their ideology as the only solution, having exaccerbated the problem in the first place.

    So we have greenies and environmentalists responsible for the bushfires, and irresponsible Scomo haters (*cough* Labor and Greens voters *cough*) responsible for the spread of the virus.

  22. Lizzie

    Yes. There comes a time when lessons have to be learnt the very hard way.

    Call me cray cray. But this pandemic has a very karmic feel to it.

  23. Part of Morrison’s cringeworthy statement today:

    “We know who we are as a people. And the legacy and inspiration that has been given to us from those who have come before us and shown us the way through challenges and tests just like this. So we summon the spirit of the Anzacs, of our great Depression generation, of those who built the Snowy, of those who won the great peace of World War II and defended Australia. That is our legacy that we draw on at this time.”
    (ABC updates)

  24. @catmomma

    I’ve been told by someone in a position to know that Woolworths are desperate for workers. Said if I know anyone to tell them not to bother to apply through usual channels but to front up to a Store and ask for a job directly.

    Hope that works in your area.

  25. Given the way this government has stigmatised the unemployed over the past 10 years and the punitive regime they have in place I’m not surprised the average young person currently thinks unemployment is worse than Covid-19.
    In six months time this mob think that they’ll get to cancel the additional Corona virus payment and put everyone onto Job seeker allowance. I’d love to see them try, imagine throwing hundreds of thousands of people, who will find it difficult if almost impossible to survive on the supplimented $1065 a fortnight onto $515 a fortnight.
    I think they’ll end up with rioting on the streets.

  26. E. G. Theodore says:
    Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:25 pm
    Briefly:

    The choice is whether to test-and-trace or clamp. We’ve chosen to clamp. The cost will be measured in the hundreds of billions.

    South Australia has been testing all respiratory swabs for COVID-19, not just those that meet the infection criteria. That’s one reason why the numbers are so high, and also means there is a targeted sample (of the whole population for whom swabs are indicated).

    Thanks EGT. SA has info other States do not…I wonder if outcomes/management will be different in SA. Why SA only?….

  27. lizzie

    Agreed. I know my views of Scomo have in the past been negative, based on his behaviour to win office and many public lies. But while his defenders will try to say any critic is trying to score partisan political points and playing a game to get him removed from office, this time if he keeps screwing up a lot of people will die. So if he can’t do the job he needs to move aside and appoint a Covid 19 response chief who is credible and competent. Soon he will be called Scotty from Paliative Care.

  28. After my question about Vets yesterday.
    I rang our normal Vet’s this morning as my hearing assistance dog, Dusty, is due for vaccination soon.
    At present they are open but only for urgent cases. They are not doing routine vaccinations.

    I spoke to one of Vets and she said looking at his record he should be OK for the present.
    Particularly as he is not going to be going to Dog Club or the Dog Park. We only see the occasional dog on our walks.

    There are 2 other Vet surgeries in town. I am not keen to take him elsewhere, and am guessing they will all be in the same situation.

    Just hope this is not going to take too long to get back to a level of normality.

  29. Socrates:

    “New Zealand is at its level three alert. In the next 24 hours, it will move to level four.”

    Interesting that they have stated from the start what the levels of restriction will be and then advanced through them in a clearly defined manner. Makes you think there is some sort of overall plan. I wonder what that feels like?

    See:
    https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/about/publications/ResearchAndReports/covid-19-pandemic-plan-for-vic
    for example – also has four stages, but they are different. Note also that this is targeted at the health sector, not the public.

    Communication to the general public is clearly the responsibility of the Commonwealth (else confusion would ensue, as indeed it has). It has been unbelievably bad, for unexplained reasons. No doubt there are many explanations that can be asserted).

  30. Victoria. Thanks for the link. It is frustrating journalism though. It uses “several months” when it could simply have said “in July”, and you have to read carefully to learn that the doctor left of her own accord two months before the position was due to end. No explanation is given as to why she left early beyond “when she learned her federally funded post … would be discontinued as of September.” (Perhaps she found a new job? Was no-one was appointed to replace her?)

  31. laughtong
    My dog had her annual shots Friday.
    Because I’ve had sore throat/runny nose they got her from my car. When finished brought her back out with eftpos machine. Could have done direct transfer too.
    My understanding is the heartworm shot needs to be done pretty well on time, other shots not so much.

  32. Off facebook. So caveats apply.

    Australian EMERGENCY Notice
    If you feel unwell, have a fever or sore throat. PLEASE do not go to the medical centre/family clinic or the hospital, please contact the communicable disease control branch directly. There will be a doctor who will visit your place of residence and do a check up on you, it will be free of charge. Do the right thing!
    Contact Numbers by State ☎
    WA: 08 9222 8588
    ACT: 02 6205 2155
    NSW: 1300 066 055
    NT: 08 8922 8044
    QLD: 13 432 584
    SA: 1300 232 272
    TAS: 1800 671 738
    VIC: 1300 651 160

  33. Late Riser

    Many positions that become vacant during Trumps administration, do not get refilled.

    It is a feature, not a bug.

    Now they are reaping what they have sown.

    Americans have been utterly betrayed by their traitorous president and his enablers.
    They should be hang drawn and quartered

  34. lizzie
    “ Can anyone explain why hairdressers and beauty salons are allowed to keep trading through the shutdown?”

    That’s easy to answer. It’s because Morrison and Murphy are dangerously incompetent cretins.

  35. Victoria, I agree. My complaint was directed at the journalism. Just a little more effort and it might have struck harder.

  36. VP & laughtong

    Yes, the main one actually lasts 3 years, according to what I have read, but it was ‘useful’ in the past for vets to insist on a yearly check up. Others added later may be locally necessary.

  37. Late Riser

    The US is now living through the pandemic

    Trump and his fellow travellers are culpable for the delay in taking action. They have blood on their hands.

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