Newspoll: 52-48 to Coalition

Another modest Coalition lead from the second poll in a new-look Newspoll series, which also finds Scott Morrison rated well for strength, vision and experience, but higher than he’d like for arrogance. Also featured: a quick early look at the ANU’s deep and wide post-election survey.

The second Newspoll conducted under the new regime of online polls conducted by YouGov records the Coalition with a 52-48 lead, out from 51-49 a fortnight ago. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up a point to 42%, Labor is steady on 33%, the Greens are down one to 11% and One Nation is steady on 5%. Both leaders’ personal ratings are improved after weak results last time, with Scott Morrison up two on approval to 45% and down four on disapproval to 48%, and Anthony Albanese up two to 40% and down four to 41%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is out from 46-35 to 48-34.

Respondents were also asked to rate the leaders according to nine attributes, eight positive and one negative. Morrison scored higher than Albanese for the experience (68-64), decisiveness and strength (60-51) and having a vision for Australia (60-54), while Albanese had the edge on caring for people (60-55). There was essentially nothing to separate them on understanding the major issues (57-56 to Albanese), likeability (56-56), being in touch with voters (50-49 to Albanese) and trustworthiness (49-48). However, Morrison’s worst result was his 58-40 lead on the one negative quality that was gauged – arrogance.

The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1503. The Australian’s paywalled report of the results is here.

In other poll news, a uComms poll (apparently minus the ReachTEL branding now) for the Courier-Mail ($) suggests Queensland’s embattled Deputy Premier, Jackie Trad, is in grave danger of losing her seat of South Brisbane to the Greens. The poll shows the Greens on 29.4%, Labor on 27.5% and the Liberal National Party on 26.6%, with 10.4% undecided. Labor is credited with a 52-48 lead on respondent-allocated preferences, but this may flatter Labor given the LNP’s announcement that they would direct preferences against them. No field work date is provided that I can see, but the sample size was 700. The deficiencies of automated phone polls in inner city seats were noted by Kevin Bonham, among others.

UPDATE: In better poll news still, the results from the post-election Australian Election Study survey are available in all their glory, courtesy of the Australian National University. You can view the ANU’s overview of the findings here, but the real fun of this resource is that it allows you to cross-tabulate responses to 3143-respondent survey across a dizzying range of variables. The survey also includes demographic weightings that presume to correct for the biases introduced by the survey process. The survey also addresses a long-standing criticism by including a component of 968 respondents who also completed the 2016 survey, allowing for study of the changing behaviour of the same set of respondents over time.

Rest assured you will be hearing a great deal more about the survey going forward, but for the time being, here’s one set of numbers I have crunched for starters. This shows the primary vote broken down into three age cohorts, and compares them with the equivalent figures from the 2016 survey. This produces some eye-catching results, particularly in regard to a probably excessive surge in support for the Coalition among the middle-aged cohort – mostly at the expense of “others”. By contrast, the young cohort swung heavily to the left, while the boomers were relatively static.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. If people haven’t realised, Australia is a conservative country. Thanks to Reagan, Thatcher & Keating, people have embraced deregulation & the significantly rising wealth inequality (that can be starkly demonstrated graphically).
    Labor has over time become more like the LNP than vice versa.
    Anthropogenic global warming won’t be dealt with – we don’t live long enough to concern ourselves with the consequences

  2. guytaursays:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 10:52 am

    Barney

    The technology exists today. We can transition much much faster and not pretend its a black and white you must push for more coal mines or you are for blackouts.

    The technology may exist, but it’s not in place.

    We could transition faster if the Government had the political will, but still how long will it take?

    How long does a pumped hydro dam take to build?

    While the Tesla battery has had a positive impact, it is no where near the capacity to maintain power to the grid for any period of time.

  3. C@tmomma @ #190 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 7:48 am

    I’m just looking for some practical responses from you.

    You claim that Labor can’t do anything because it isn’t in government, which is actually a fair point. However you expect me to come up with solutions to all the world’s ills when I’m not even in parliament, or even a member of ANY political party.

    You on the other hand are a member of a political party, so you are much better placed than I am to offer any practical solutions to any and all of the world’s ills.

    So tell us what do you propose as a practical solution, and what are you doing to achieve those outcomes?

  4. Jackol,

    If we take your sarcasm as read, you must think that prohibition of drugs is working a treat, right? We just have to prohibit harder to solve drug use problems.

    Good to see progressives joining the conservatives on this.

    Get a better argument.

    That wasn’t my point at all. FWIW (probably not much as it is not my area at all) I lean towards “harm minimisation” and education as the most effective approached to drugs.

  5. Barney

    Thanks for conceding my point.

    I expect Labor to come up with practical solutions without being the equivalent to drug pushers.
    As I said to you in my initial post. Make sure the renewables are in place first. You know the very renewables Labor IS arguing for as the solution to reducing fossil fuel use.

  6. shellbell @ #198 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 7:54 am

    [Did we prop up asbestos miners when their product was declared toxic? Did we provide millions in aid money to restore the town of Wittenoom?]

    Yes in a way through tariff protection on imported asbestos for point one in the 1950s after Government health departments were warning against asbestos dangers etc.

    A fair bit of government money would have been spent supporting Wittenoom – there is a photo of Sir Charles Court at the mine at some stage.

    My point was actually about what happened after asbestos was finally accepted s being toxic. There ws no aid to either the workforce or the town.

  7. Joel Fitzgibbon’s twitter response to Peter Garrett

    https://twitter.com/fitzhunter/status/1203473662273179649

    I don’t know where Peter lives these days but I suspect it’s not Central Qld, the Hunter or the Illawarra. I’m sure he’s not worried about where his next mortgage payment will come from. I support “True Believers”who want well paid blue collar jobs for aspirational Australians

    Sound familiar. Only people in Central Qld, etc can have a view about the existential crisis represented by global heating.

    It’s a fact global heating doesn’t discriminate on geographical location but, hey, let’s bury our heads in the sand and continue with business as usual where the two major parties are beholden to the fossil fuel industry via political donations and the revolving door.

  8. FredNK

    An attempt to outlay supply that by pretty much any measure, failed.
    To fill in the argument, outlawing supply has:
    1) Not reduced the street price much.
    2) Means the industry does not pay to clean up the mess.
    3) Means those effected less likely to seek help.
    4) Money in the pocket for those that wish to corrupt.

    Thanks for the implicit endorsement of my retirement plan. I was worried that some might have an ethical objection. 🙂
    A couple of points:
    – Outlawing supply would, as with coal, tend to increase rather than reduce the street price.
    – Outlawing supply would be a tad easier with coal than meth.

  9. Pegasus
    says:
    Only people in Central Qld, etc can have a view about the existential crisis represented by global heating.
    ___________________________
    It’s a mulletocracy.

  10. There were many land buybacks and relocation assistance in Wittenoom in the process of phasing down the town.

    Shutting down coal mines thankfully isn’t likely to have such a nasty physical legacy on the environment and land rehabilitation is going to be an easier and safer task.

  11. I support “True Believers”who want well paid blue collar jobs for aspirational Australians

    What’s the test to pass as a “true believer”. Let’s round up anyone who isn’t one and put them in camps. Global heating doesn’t discriminate.

    But let’s keep propping up coal miners and the fossil fuel industry for three decades or more despite all the warnings real action needs to be taken far earlier.

    Keep selling them the delusion nothing needs to change; I’m alright, Jack, I am earning mega bucks.

    No environment, no economy for the aspirationals.

    Reality will bite sooner rather than later.


  12. Vic says:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:00 am
    If people haven’t realised, Australia is a conservative country. Thanks to Reagan, Thatcher & Keating, people have embraced deregulation & the significantly rising wealth inequality (that can be starkly demonstrated graphically).
    Labor has over time become more like the LNP than vice versa.
    Anthropogenic global warming won’t be dealt with – we don’t live long enough to concern ourselves with the consequences

    The consequences of global heating are already well and truly upon us. We can already see the spread of anoxic conditions in the marine environment – conditions which have already destroyed marine life. This in turn is having two further effects. First, it is reducing the capacity of the oceans to absorb CO2. And secondly, the populations of photosynthesising phytoplankton are being destroyed. This will reduce the supply of oxygen to the entire ecosystem – the marine environment, the atmosphere and all the earth’s living organisms. These processes do not merely lie ahead in the indeterminate future. The have been occurring for some time now – for decades.

    Anoxic conditions will destroy all life wherever they occur. The MDB fish kills are a vivid example of this. But this is minor compared with instances already documented in the marine environment, where destruction has occurred on a truly massive scale already.

    As a species, we seem to be incapable of comprehending this. Instead, we fight among ourselves. We will be destroyed as a result.

  13. @samanthamaiden
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    2m
    As ⁦@npomalley⁩ story correctly points out the rape allegation is not ‘before the courts’ that’s a complete nonsense by ⁦@AlboMP, ⁩ it’s an estate claim. All sorts of reasons not to comment but this isn’t one

  14. I’ve just come in from shopping and whisked through the pages, and a comment by, I think, Not Sure, made me sit up and growl. The one about disallowing older voters to vote unless under 18s can.

  15. Pegasus @ #206 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 11:14 am

    Joel Fitzgibbon’s twitter response to Peter Garrett

    https://twitter.com/fitzhunter/status/1203473662273179649

    I don’t know where Peter lives these days but I suspect it’s not Central Qld, the Hunter or the Illawarra. I’m sure he’s not worried about where his next mortgage payment will come from. I support “True Believers”who want well paid blue collar jobs for aspirational Australians

    Sound familiar. Only people in Central Qld, etc can have a view about the existential crisis represented by global heating.

    It’s a fact global heating doesn’t discriminate on geographical location but, hey, let’s bury our heads in the sand and continue with business as usual where the two major parties are beholden to the fossil fuel industry via political donations and the revolving door.

    Could have been written by Scrott.

  16. JW –

    That wasn’t my point at all.

    You were making a sarcastic comment about how it’s ok to deal meth because if we didn’t someone else would, but that inherently implies
    (a) that supplying meth is wrong – I don’t necessarily disagree with this, except that there’s a more complex argument here where I would argue that meth use is a direct result of prohibition on other, less harmful recreational drugs, and that if we had not embarked on the war on drugs we wouldn’t have a meth problem at all, and not having a ‘war on drugs’ means that supply of those other, significantly less harmful drugs would be (as it was) entirely legal, regulated, as safe as possible etc etc. In that context I see talking about ‘meth supply’ as shorthand for any prohibited drug supply. Meth is dangerous, for sure, and talking about dealing meth in isolation is nice and emotive, but it is, in my opinion, misleading, and – to state the blindingly obvious – an entirely inappropriate analogy when talking about coal mining/carbon emissions/global warming.
    (b) that cutting off legal supply of meth has any chance of stopping people from using meth, which it clearly does not.

    I lean towards “harm minimisation” and education as the most effective approached to drugs.

    Great. Clearly measures aimed at managing demand. Not that I want to reinforce the analogy between meth supply and coal mining, because the analogy is deeply deeply flawed.

  17. guytaursays:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:07 am

    Barney

    Thanks for conceding my point.

    I expect Labor to come up with practical solutions without being the equivalent to drug pushers.
    As I said to you in my initial post. Make sure the renewables are in place first. You know the very renewables Labor IS arguing for as the solution to reducing fossil fuel use.

    But the infrastructure is not there yet.

    Your starting point doesn’t exist yet.

    You throw around emotive language which denies what the situation is at this moment in time.

    You’re ignoring that we have a lot to do to get there.

  18. Greeks will be hit with a hefty fine if they do not spend almost a third of their income electronically in an unprecedented bid by the new government to stamp out rampant tax evasion.

    The government expects to raise more than €500 million ($808 million) every year from the initiative that will force Greeks to spend 30 per cent of their income electronically, Alex Patelis, the prime minister’s chief economic adviser, revealed.

    Individuals that fail to meet the target will be hit with a 22 per cent fine on the shortfall. Therefore, if an individual spends just 20 per cent of their income through electronic means, they would face a 22 per cent tax on the remaining 10 per cent bar some exclusions.

    The scheme is a radical attempt to cast some light on Greece’s huge shadow economy, the world’s largest, and is part of new prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis’s sweeping overhaul to revive growth.

    “This is a big initiative next year that will either raise more revenue because [people] will pay the penalty or more likely because of the [higher] VAT receipts,” Mr Patelis told The Telegraph.

    The revenue predicted is likely to be at the “lower end” of estimates and the country’s banks will help impose the measures by reporting spending to the authorities.

    If a Greek earned €1,000 per month and only paid 15 per cent of their income electronically, they would pay a fine of around €400 every year, for example. The government is confident it will not drive more workers into the country’s booming shadow economy and tempt them to understate their earnings, a key problem in Greece.

    Greeks can use debit cards, credit cards, bank transfers and ecommerce for the electronic transactions, which includes rent.

    But many workers are paid their wages in cash, which they then use to pay their rent and bills. Greece also has one of the lowest internet usage rates in the EU at 72 per cent. This suggests that some in the country could struggle to meet the 30 per cent target.

    Southern Europe, particularly Greece, have booming shadow economies. A study by the Institute for Applied Economic Research in 2017 found that Greece had the largest in the world, being equivalent to 22 per cent of gross domestic product.

  19. Actually, tobacco provides some interesting parallels to global heating, not the least of which that the fossil fuel indstry is adopting and refining tactics used by the tobacco industry, even some of the same people.

    But a here’s a thought experiment. There’s a country where 80% of the male population and 50% of the female population smoke. Most smokers are addicted. So rather like Australia c. 1965.

    Let’s further assume that this country is a major producer and exporter of tobacco (Australia never was).

    The country has three main political parties we’ll call, Liberal, Green and Labor.

    The news about the devastating health impacts of smoking loom large in the public consciousness. So how to proceed from there?

    The Liberals, in the pocket of the tobacco industry, want to boost tobacco production and export. They defund bodies working on the link between smoking and health, often deny there’s any problem at all, hide statistics regarding smoking and health and undertake a couple of token measures like mild warnings (“Medical authorities advise that smoking is a health hazard”) at the end of cigarette ads.

    The Greens want to immediately ban smoking, together with tobacco production and export. Even if this were possible, it ain’t going to happen.

    Meanwhile, Labor are trying to steer a realistic course to reduce tobacco consumption to very low levels within a reasonable time, through the sorts of measures we’ve actually seen in Australia in the last few decades. Other countries are trying to do the same, with varying levels of commitment and sucess. Labor doesn’t ban tobacco production and exports but these industries are dying as demand shrinks. Labor wants to establish transition plans for displaced tobacco farmers and workers.

  20. Jackol

    Where the analogy works and you don’t have to bring in you have to be for the drug war or against it.

    Instead Labor needs to adopt the Portugal approach to the drug war. So yes harm minimisation. The problem for Labor is it has joined the ranks of the drug pushers. Fair enough if you want to push the drug itself and ignore all the harms that come from pushing the drug. The open slather approach.

  21. Barney

    No I am not adopting the we have to have NEW coal mines and exports or we have blackouts nonsense.

    Its right up there with Chris Uhlmanns Storms blowing down transmission towers means renewables are at fault.

  22. Pegasus says:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:33 am
    Albanese is heading to regional Queensland this week to clear up a few misconceptions

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-heads-north-to-clear-up-a-few-misconceptions-20191208-p53hz4.html

    Just before Christmas …. Will his ‘listening and talking’ tour go down well at an often stressful time for many? A politician – a member of the “elite class”, perceived as untrustworthy and in it for themselves.

    An utterly fucking puerile interjection from a totally fatuous source.

  23. Holden Hillbilly

    I suspect that Greek “reform” is more for show than go. The vast majority of income tax avoidance was being done by the ‘mega rich” . They will rest assured be able to ‘tax avoid’ their way around these ‘reforms’

  24. Steve777 @ #222 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 8:29 am

    Actually, tobacco provides some interesting parallels to global heating, not the least of which that the fossil fuel indstry is adopting and refining tactics used by the tobacco industry, even some of the same people.

    But a here’s a thought experiment. There’s a country where 80% of the male population and 50% of the female population smoke. Most smokers are addicted. So rather like Australia c. 1965.

    Let’s further assume that this country is a major producer and exporter of tobacco (Australia never was).

    The country has three main political parties we’ll call, Liberal, Green and Labor.

    The news about the devastating health impacts of smoking loom large in the public consciousness. So how to proceed from there?

    The Liberals, in the pocket of the tobacco industry, want to boost tobacco production and export. They defund bodies working on the link between smoking and health, often deny there’s any problem at all, hide statistics regarding smoking and health and undertake a couple of token measures like mild warnings (“Medical authorities advise that smoking is a health hazard”) at the end of cigarette ads.

    The Greens want to immediately ban smoking, together with tobacco production and export. Even if this were possible, it ain’t going to happen.

    Meanwhile, Labor are trying to steer a realistic course to reduce tobacco consumption to very low levels within a reasonable time, through the sorts of measures we’ve actually seen in Australia in the last few decades. Other countries are trying to do the same, with varying levels of commitment and sucess. Labor doesn’t ban tobacco production and exports but these industries are dying as demand shrinks. Labor wants to establish transition plans for displaced tobacco farmers and workers.

    Quite a good analogy but with one major flaw. The bit about doing all this “within a reasonable time”.

    How much time do we have? You used a starting point for tobacco reduction of 1965. Therefore 40 plus years. Is that a reasonable time frame? Do you think Mother Nature will wait that long?

    Also, tobacco use and production isn’t doing anywhere near the damage that global heating is doing and will continue to do over the next 40 years. Not to mention that despite the bad health outcomes, some smokers live to be a ripe old age and smoking tobacco doesn’t cause birds and fruit bats to fall dead out of trees. Nor does it damage coral reefs.

    The world came together to ban CFCs to protect the ozone layer. It also came together to fix the Y2K bug. It did both of these things in just a few short years. Not decades, years.

  25. The Greens party have never advocated closing down the coal industry immediately. The meme that it does, as promulgated by the political duopoly and the mainstream party, is just that, a meme, fake news. The continuation of the status quo aka business as usual is what matters, not the good of the country or the world.

    Greens 2019 policy platform – Renew Australia 2030: powering past coal to a clean future for all of us

    https://greens.org.au/sites/default/files/2019-03/Greens%202019%20Policy%20Platform%20-%20Renew%20Australia.pdf

  26. guytaursays:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:31 am

    Barney

    No I am not adopting the we have to have NEW coal mines and exports or we have blackouts nonsense.

    Its right up there with Chris Uhlmanns Storms blowing down transmission towers means renewables are at fault.

    See you miss the point completely.

    Mining is not part of the solution.

    The solution comes from putting renewables and storage in place.

    Do that and there will be little demand for coal.

    You achieve the reduction in mining by making redundant the industries that support it.

  27. Alpha Zero @ #194 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 10:50 am

    Cat,

    I agree that there is very little in this world compared to the suffering of Mesothelioma. I didn’t mean to push the analysis down that path.

    However, there are comparisons between the 2 types of mining for sure. In short, some people are willing to risk the lives of miners, their towns and the life on the planet in order to be able to exploit it for a quick and easy buck. There are alternative solutions to our energy consumption, even gawd forbid, de-powering stuff that does not need to be on!

    And it may surprise you to know, but Labor are all for them. Just not, NOW!

    As Barney has been patiently saying, Labor are not in government, however, if they were I’m sure the blueprint of the Latrobe Valley, Hazelwood shut-down would be used. It was very successful:

    Latrobe Valley optimistic two years after Hazelwood power station closure, but coal attachment remains
    ABC Gippsland By Jarrod Whittaker
    Posted 18 Mar 2019, 6:27am

    Latrobe Valley community leaders are optimistic about the region’s future almost two years after the Hazelwood Power Station closed, although debate remains about what role coal should play in its economy.

    Key points:
    In two years, unemployment has dropped by 2.3 per cent
    Health, agriculture and energy have been targeted as future industries for growth
    An electric car manufacturing plant will open in 2022
    When Hazelwood closed at the end of March, 2017, it was the highest polluting power station in Australia and its demise was cheered by environmental activists across the nation.

    In the Latrobe Valley, east of Melbourne, the loss of 750 jobs prompted fears of a repeat of the high unemployment and business closures brought on when the industry was restructured and privatised in the 1990s.

    Two years on, the region’s unemployment rate is 5.7 per cent — down from 8 per cent when the plant closed.

    Jobs created
    Richard Elkington, a lifelong Latrobe Valley resident who chairs the Regional Development Australia — Gippsland committee, said more than 1,000 jobs had been created in the region in the past two years.

    “The reality is that we’ve actually got more people in jobs in the Latrobe Valley and in Gippsland now then we had before Hazelwood closed,” Mr Elkington said.

    “Regional Development Victoria, government and the private sector have been working together … to attract investment into the Latrobe Valley, into Gippsland and they’ve been highly successful in doing so.”

    The day the closure of Hazelwood was announced, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews visited the Latrobe Valley and announced a $266-million package to help the region adjust.

    Money has been spent helping local businesses adapt to the closure and on attracting new companies to the area.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-18/hazelwood-power-station-closure-two-years-on/10908866

    This is how Labor does things. 🙂

  28. How much time do we have?

    Even less every time a Coalition government is elected and voters are pushed into their arms by Greens convoys and their ‘demands’ of Labor.

  29. Barney

    No you miss the point.

    NO NEW COAL MINES does not equal shutting down existing mines and exports.

    Thats it.

    Simples. The global heating facts demands that for the future existence of civilisation roughly as we know it today.

    You can have your own opinions not your own facts
    Of course if you do not care about humanity’s future but care about money you argue that opening new mines is closing down existing ones.

  30. As Barney has been patiently saying, Labor are not in government…

    As I and others have been patiently saying, the Greens are not, and have never been in government in their own right ever.

    Yet the Greens are scapegoated for all the ills besetting Australia and the world.

    Anyone would think Labor has no agency of its own.

    It’s a funny world.

  31. Not Sure says:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 10:30 am
    “Anyway, I’m off to take the kids to the beach in my environmentally destructive 3 tonne diesel truck.”

    And here encapsulated is the mindset of the typical conservative voter – when it’s all stripped away at the core is a, relatively, self centred person. My guess is they have sky fairy belief to assuage cognitive dissonance, when there is any level of metacognition.

  32. Peg,

    reminds me of Umberto Eco’s common features of Ur-fascism:

    – Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

    – Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”

    – The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”

    – The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

    – Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

  33. C@tmomma says:
    Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:53 am
    How much time do we have?

    “Even less every time a Coalition government is elected and voters are pushed into their arms by Greens convoys and their ‘demands’ of Labor.“

    Not really. It just highlights/exposes how self centred the majority of people are.

    I get a sort of catharsis when seeing my conservative parents. Because I can’t talk about the weather, Kim kardashian, etc, etc I talk about deep stuff only – that includes the psychology of my mother & father & not holding back when talking (read: educating) them about their deep psychology & hence why they vote the way they do.
    It’s got to the point where they barely speak to me anymore. And in a way, it shows the type of people they truly are. By the way, I am putting millions of dollars in inheritance at risk & I don’t care.

  34. I would argue that a considerable number of people, who support Scott Morrison as Prime Minister. Don’t mind at all, that he is trying to turn the country into an authoritarian ‘illiberal democracy’. So long as they believe Morrison is keeping the country ‘safe’ and ‘prosperous’, then they believe this is an acceptable price to pay.

    This also probably includes what Morrison described as the ‘Quiet Australians’, essentially politically disengaged people aged approximately 35-54, who are often are parents raising their children, paying off mortgages, along with living in the outer suburbs and regional cities. It was notable that the ANU election survey reported, that the 35-54’s swung the heaviest to the Coalition on the primary vote at the Federal Election.

  35. bakunin

    The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

    Now that rings a few bells 😆

  36. Vic, I had a chat with my parents today to see how they are going after the fires. My dad told me that the Mid North Coast has only about 3 weeks of water left if it doesn’t rain. He is someone who didn’t have much of an education, votes Liberal and doesn’t believe in Climate Change. Go figure after what he’s just been through. Anyway, I gently broached the subject of Climate Change and he came back with, ‘CO2 is natural’. I, as gently as possible replied, ‘So is Arsenic’, left it at that and quickly moved on. I hope it gives him food for thought. That’s all I can hope for.

  37. The PV’s for both the coalition and labor are the same as they were two or three polls ago. No great end of year movement to the government. Just the normal ebbs and flows.

    What the difference is between 51-49 in earlier polls and the 52- 48 now is the greens vote has gone from 13 to 11 in the last few polls.

    Perhaps it is the greens and their supporters who should be concerned that their “ end of the world unless we talk about climate change now “ and the “major parties are arsonists “ political rants are simply not reasonating in the real world as people fight for their homes and properties and are simply trying to survive the unfolding summer disaster as best they can.

  38. Tristo

    So long as they believe Morrison is keeping the country ‘safe’ and ‘prosperous’

    With a “budget surplus” still taken as the acme of good financial management the “back in black” claim was an electoral killer blow . With an increasing fear of a recession that “good management” would look a safe refuge compared to the side who was talking about change.

  39. “This also probably includes what Morrison described as the ‘Quiet Australians’, essentially politically disengaged people aged approximately 35-54, who are often are parents raising their children, paying off mortgages, along with living in the outer suburbs and regional cities. It was notable that the ANU election survey reported, that the 35-54’s swung the heaviest to the Coalition on the primary vote at the Federal Election.”

    ***

    Gen X has almost been forgotten about while Millennials and Baby Boomers go at each other. Xers seem to be becoming less and less engaged as time goes on. I’d say many of the “Quiet (uninformed) Australians” are Gen Xers who have just switched off completely and frankly don’t give a fig leaf about any of it.

  40. Jolyon Wagg @ #183 Monday, December 9th, 2019 – 10:40 am

    I’m thinking of setting up a meth lab to help fund my retirement (I only did Chem to second year Uni level but I’m sure it would come back to me!). I know meth causes some social problems but if users don’t buy it from me they will just buy from others. Clearly any problems with meth use need to be handled by focusing on the demand side.

    Your logic is impeccable – you’ve convinced me! How do I invest? Are you going IPO?

  41. Firefox

    Gen Xers who have just switched off completely and frankly don’t give a fig leaf about any of it.

    Well they were the original ‘Slackers’ 🙂

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