BludgerTrack is back, sort of – you can find a permanent link on the sidebar along with a miniature version of its main attraction, namely polling trends for leader approval and preferred prime minister. These go back to the onset of Scott Morrison’s prime ministership in August last year, and thus encompass distinct Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese epochs.
As you can see, Morrison has mostly gravitated around neutral on his net rating (i.e. approval minus disapproval), barring a post-election surge that has now run its course. Shorten’s position appeared to improve during the election campaign, which was also picked up in Labor’s internal polling, though clearly not far enough. Albanese has mostly been around neutral, but as a newcomer he has a high uncommitted rating, which doesn’t come through when you reduce it to a net measure. This is how he manages to do worse than Shorten on preferred prime minister (although a narrowing trend kicked in here a few months ago) despite doing better on net approval.
I haven’t included the most recent Newspoll result at this stage, as this is clearly a distinct new series for which I will require a few more results before I can standardise it against the other polls. On the basis of this limited evidence, the new-look Newspoll’s leader rating scores can be expected to behave somewhat differently from the old. As Kevin Bonham notes, the new poll has markedly worse net ratings for both leaders, as uncommitted rates are lower and disapproval higher.
Needless to say, what’s missing in all this is voting intention, for which I am going to need a good deal more data before I reckon it worth my while. If you’re really keen though, Mark the Ballot has gone to the trouble of running a trendline through all six of the Newspoll results post-election. If nothing else, my BludgerTrack page features a “poll data” tab on which voting intention polls will be catalogued, which for the time being is wall-to-wall Newspoll. And while I have your attention, please note as per the post above that I’ve got the begging bowl out – donations gratefully received through the link at the top of the page.
“ Eddy Jokovich
@EddyJokovich
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The new submarines are $225 billion in total costs. $225 BILLION. For context: total government budget this year is $487 billion. Almost half of the budget for submarines but no money for schools, hospitals, NDIS, climate change, renewables? How stupid is this government? #auspol”
$225billion is a scandalous amount of money to potentially commit to spending on a program that we still don’t know will actually work.
I don’t want to get sidetracked by Rex’s musings on submarines or General Guytaur’s strategic mewings about drones, but assuming we as a nation decide that we need a manned sub program that runs to at least 2070 then we should at least make sure that the investment works before going all in. No one has attempted to put a water pump drive system to a diesel electric sub before. We don’t know whether the ‘hotel load’ is sufficient. The design reference point – the nuclear Barracuda class – isn’t operational. For political reasons (an attempt to head off a looming Nick Xenophon route in 2016) building even a prototype is not allowed to be build at DNSC’s Toloun boat yard before a completely new shipyard in Osborne SA is supposed to build 12 – with a completely fresh workforce. The French have never partnered with the ASC, or Lockheed Martin – who is providing the combat systems and most of the weapons. Yet we have signed up for a blank cheque which may cost $225 billion. Or not, who knows? Certainly not the government, or Fort Fumble. Why not a trillion dollars? FFS!
It did not have to be this way. ThyssenKrupp was prepared to partner with ASC and Kockums to (1) upgrade the Collins subs, (2) build 6 to 12 new ‘type 216’ subs using the existing Types 212 and 214 as the design reference points, (3) using the ASC’s existing workforce and facilities. The ‘through life’ costs would have been at a fraction of the French proposal and able to be ascertained because of the use of existing benchmarks and experience.
On paper the Barracuda is a revolutionary step forward, so I get the attraction, but if the government thought this was worth pursuing it should have paid The French between $10-15 billion to establish proof of concept by 2025 by building and testing a single sub out of the Toulon boat yard. If it worked then by all means build another 11 in Osborne.
In the meantime the government could have got cracking in upgrading Collins and building the first 6 ‘Type 216’ / advanced Collins with the Germans and Swedes. If the French design was proven by 2025, then by 3031 first the Collins and then by 2045 the Type 216/Advanced Collins could be progressively replaced by the French designed boats. If the French design didn’t work, then we could simply proceed with another 6 German designed boats to replace the original Collins. This way we would have avoided committing $200 billion or more to what could turn out to be a pig in a poke. Walking away after spending $10-15 billion might have hurt, but nothing like how much $200+ billion would have hurt.
That all being said, I find the tweet above to be vexing. Eddy is conflating the annual budget with the through life costs of a 70 year project. Either Eddy is thick or dishonest. It shits me because this sort of stunning C tactic detracts from an otherwise good point.
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2019/12/voting-patterns-in-tasmanian-house-of.html
Voting Patterns In The Tasmanian House Of Assembly (2014-2019)
We have here a Liberal who votes like an Independent, and an ex-Labor Independent who votes like a Liberal … strange times in the Tassie lower house.
Only thing i will say about the UK election is thank heavens i don’t need to vote for any of them. Boris is a clown with a nasty Brexit plan Corbyn comes across as dodgy or weak and the rest look like rank opportunist.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/28/boris-johnson-climate-crisis-denying-channel-4-debate?fbclid=IwAR1oh6rrNXYd11LpVoQxADpg6Qcgn-14M8SKOnHqe7a692wnhoKp_-pnJUc
From the Three Sisters in Katoomba, last night.
Cloth-eared Colbeck. How good is that surplus.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-01/funding-battle-for-award-winning-indigenous-aged-care-program/11751616
Oh dear Labors desire to be honest and blunt about the anti Labor coalition and what they have done seems to be gaining pace.
Will the Greens be able to wiggle out of their responsibility, or will they reflect on that they have done. The quote from Richard Di Natale and the rubbish they have written on their web site would indicate no reflection, that the Greens, the secret little party will continue to be the environmental enemy.
“The thing that is quite clear is that neither the Coalition nor the Greens political party have learnt the lessons of the last decade,” Wong told the ABC’s Insiders.
“The Coalition is still in denial, and division, and the Greens political party have to decide – are they actually prepared to look for change, to look for common ground, to act for change? Or are they really going to make it their political objective to take votes off the Labor party and have a political fight with the Labor party?”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/02/labor-says-emissions-would-be-200m-tonnes-lower-if-greens-had-supported-cprs
In case you missed it, this is the considered opinion of Taylor’s wife, Louise Clegg, who thinks that recession, rolling blackouts and youth unemployment are necessary to teach people not to vote Labor. Perhaps she’s a friend of Anne Ruston.
https://www.afr.com/rear-window/rolling-blackouts-needed-to-teach-people-a-lesson-says-energy-ministers-wife-20181128-h18g2i
lizzie @ #608 Monday, December 2nd, 2019 – 3:10 am
Whenever one of the usual suspects posts on here about they belong to the “sensible centre”, this is where they actually stand. Shoulder to shoulder with Clegg.
Clegg was also reprimanded in 2014 for “disrupted editing” of Angus Taylor’s Wikipedia entry.
Lizzie, you’re nobody if you haven’t been put through the 3rd Degree by one of those self-appointed Wikipedia busybodies.
BB
Well, can I trust Wikipedia’s facts or not? (Although it doesn’t matter to me as I’m a nobody.)
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50621625
lizzie
“can I trust ……. facts or not?”
You have hit the nail on the head!
lizzie @ #499 Monday, December 2nd, 2019 – 6:53 am
Sing along today —
frednk @ #607 Monday, December 2nd, 2019 – 6:07 am
Going by the stuff we see here, I’d say it’s the latter. Nary a good word is ever said about Labor.
lizzie
That is a fantastic image of Three Sisters/Fire.
Thank you.
The fire itself is on the current RFS ‘Fires near me’ site and is listed under ‘Ruined Castle’.
“Oh dear Labors desire to be honest and blunt about the anti Labor coalition and what they have done seems to be gaining pace.”
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Yawn. Nah. Labor are just whinging and blaming everyone else for their own failures as usual. What’s new?
Boerwar
The destruction in NSW is becoming a terrible tragedy which grows and grows. From Victoria, I can only watch and worry about the coming summer.
lizzie @ #619 Monday, December 2nd, 2019 – 7:14 am
Yet we have our Premier, Gladys Berejiklian, running around like a head with its chook cut off trying to pretend everything is alright and that she hasn’t cut the funding of the RFS and the NPWS to the bone.
BB
Well, can I trust Wikipedia’s facts or not? (Although it doesn’t matter to me as I’m a nobody.)
We’re all Nobodies compared to the Somebodies who hold the (self-appointed) title of “Wikipedia Editor”. They achieve such greatness by spending most of their lives trawling entries for offenders against Wiki Sins.
By Wikipedia rules Einstein couldn’t have commented on, or corrected entries regarding his own Theory Of Relativity. The Editors see it as far more preferable for a third party to potentially explain it wrongly, than for the genius who thought it up to explain it properly.
And Einstein would get given The Treatment, you bet he would. Some pompous ass would tell him he “appeared to have” a conflict of interest, to have engaged in original research and to have neglected to cite available documents on the subject. He would then be presented with a long cut-and-pasted slab of plonkingly patronising Wikipedia rules.
Not that I personally have ever experienced such remonstrations regarding my own Wikipedia efforts, of course.
We are having to filter our air to the house through the air conditioner today (air con which we are grateful to this day having been provided to us by the good burghers of PB). All doors and windows are closed and no one can go outside. Especially my youngest son who is especially sensitive to smoke and can have his asthma triggered by it. 😯
From the “I thought he was dead archives”.
Mr. Ackerman apparently manages to attack everybody in his address book.
Ms. Julia Baird rates high in his contempt stakes. The dude wot wrote Dark Emu gets a special mention as does the book.. As for the ABC and Nine (formerly Fairfax publications) the contemptometer swing hard into the Defcon 5 level.
Mr. Ackerman appears to be an unhappy soul. Perhaps unlike another journalist who claims (sort of) to be the best looking guy in the building.*
Good morning all. Hoping for rain in Newcastle.
*Free-to-air TV still living in the ‘70sMark Ritson
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/freetoair-tv-still-living-in-the-70s/news-story/78189ec32288e797396a8df6093836ba
It seems Ken Wyatt may have feet of clay.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/minister-oversaw-culture-of-bullying-says-former-chief-of-staff-20191129-p53fhk.html
Morning bludgers
Sorry about the weather conditions in NSW
Meanwhile we are having winter like conditions in Melbourne!
And in more positive news on the home front, my father has been moved out of ICU and into the ward.
Well, David Rowe’s article reporting Martin Parkinson’s views about the culprits is going to set PB on fire, too.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/power-would-have-been-cheaper-regrets-and-rancour-10-years-after-carbon-scheme-defeated-20191130-p53fmw.html
And Tony Wood’s assessment, referred to in the same article, argues Parkinson’s is ignoring network costs as a price driver. True, but downplays the effect of greater stability on prices.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Ross Gittins calls on Philip Lowe to rescue a PM lost in the Canberra bubble.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/rba-s-lowe-should-rescue-a-pm-lost-in-the-canberra-bubble-20191130-p53fo2.html
Greg Jericho draws some worrying parallels between Trump and Morrison.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/cult-that-defines-trumps-power-is-just-a-few-scratches-away-from-the-surface-in-australia
George Christensen has objected to the release of key documents relating to the year-long police “assessment” of his pattern of travels in south-east Asia. What have you got to hide George? Or what is it you are ashamed of?
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nationals-mp-george-christensen-vetoes-release-of-afp-travel-inquiry-documents-20191201-p53fs0.html
Eryk Bagshaw reports that the former chief of staff to Minister for Indigenous Australians Ken Wyatt has accused the minister of fostering a culture of bullying in his office, saying he ignored “outrageous and unconscionable” behaviour.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/minister-oversaw-culture-of-bullying-says-former-chief-of-staff-20191129-p53fhk.html
Shane Wright explains how the budget is taking a revenue hit while the government prepares to lift spending in key areas including aged care and in response to the drought. Slow wage growth alone will punch an $8 million hole in it.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/surplus-taking-a-hit-as-wages-and-drought-hit-bottom-line-20191129-p53ff7.html
A prominent gay rights campaigner has written to the Anti-Discrimination Board of NSW to accuse ex-Wallaby Israel Folau of homosexuality vilification.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/homosexuality-vilification-complaint-lodged-against-folau-20191202-p53fvh.html
The AFR reports that rich listers and some of Australia’s wealthiest families face tough new scrutiny from the ATO, part of a dramatic expansion of its tax avoidance crackdown and a bid to collect $3.6 billion in new revenue.
https://www.afr.com/policy/tax-and-super/rich-listers-targeted-by-ato-in-cash-push-20191129-p53ffz
Anna Patty writes that a class action lawsuit against Woolworths over the $300 million underpayment of workers has begun in the Federal Court with claims the case will expose “industry-wide” problems.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/woolworths-class-action-estimates-underpayment-bill-as-high-as-620m-20191126-p53ec2.html
Plenty of former prime ministers are giving Scott Morrison advice on China but the difficulties of managing the relationship are only becoming more obvious writes Jennifer Hewett.
https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/australia-s-uneasy-balancing-act-with-china-just-gets-harder-20191201-p53ftf
Sam Maiden tells us how now Morrison has dragged the A-G into the Angus Taylor sandal.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/12/01/christian-porter-scott-morrison/
The SMH editorial points out that the idea of linking international commerce to emissions control is growing Ain popularity – and has serious implications for Australia.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/trade-deals-may-be-an-effective-method-of-enforcing-climate-action-20191129-p53fj1.html
Matt Wade reports that, according to an Ipsos poll, the environment has for the first time surpassed healthcare, cost of living and the economy to be the number one concern for Australians.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/environment-is-prime-worry-for-the-first-time-poll-20191201-p53fu5.html
Australian businesses are calling on governments around the world to develop international accounting rules for carbon trading, saying such a framework could lead to a carbon credit export boom.
https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/businesses-call-for-global-carbon-trading-rules-20191201-p53frz
Fergus Hunter tells us that the NBN is experiencing a major surge in data consumption by households and businesses, with total downloads on the network rising 25 per cent over the past year and the average customer’s monthly use up to 258 gigabytes.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/video-streaming-drives-25-per-cent-surge-in-nbn-downloads-20191201-p53fs5.html
Wholesale relief isn’t likely to bring lower NBN retail prices, writes Paul Budde.
https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/government-must-step-in-to-fix-nbn,13367
Bourke Street killer James Gargasoulas could have been stopped before his murderous rampage if the police’s elite critical response Team had been driving more powerful, four-wheel-drive vehicles. The elite forces’ VW vans get quite a pasting.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/slow-vans-hindered-gargasoulas-pursuit-says-internal-police-report-20191201-p53ft6.html
According to Bevan Shields Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn will enter the final days of the general election campaign with radically different positions on terrorism.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/ridiculous-and-repulsive-leaders-trade-blows-over-terror-laws-as-election-polls-tighten-20191201-p53fur.html
Tony Walker has had enough of the culture warriors.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/down-with-political-correctness-unless-of-course-20191129-p53ff5.html
The IPA reckons more regulation is not the solution to the Westpac revelations,
https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/more-regulation-is-not-the-solution-to-westpac-revelations-20191129-p53fe5.html
A former advisor to Julie Bishop explores why we are seeing more and more that citizens are the first responders to such attacks, and in increasingly innovative ways.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/taking-the-terror-out-of-terrorism-why-citizens-confront-low-tech-attackers-20191201-p53fsk.html
Ben Butler explains why Australia lags in policing its financial sector.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/01/banks-behaving-badly-why-australia-lags-in-policing-its-financial-sector
Nicole Hemmer writes about the practice of turning the disgraced into war heroes.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/turning-the-disgraced-into-war-heroes-20191130-p53fm3.html
Jennifer Duke is intrigued with the changes at the top of News Ltd.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/changes-at-the-top-of-news-corp-s-papers-spark-industry-intrigue-20191201-p53fpr.html
The royal family is braced for more revelations about the Duke of York’s connections with Jeffrey Epstein, as the BBC prepares to air a Panorama interview with his accuser Virginia Giuffre on tonight.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/01/bbc-to-screen-interview-with-prince-andrew-accuser
Trump won’t lose his job – but the impeachment inquiry is still essential says Robert Reich.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/trump-impeachment-inquiry-removal
John race describes Boris Johnson as a one-trick pony straight out of the political wild west. Some nice prose in this contribution!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/01/boris-johnson-a-one-trick-pony-straight-out-of-the-political-wild-west
America is not the land of the free but one of monopolies so predatory they imperil the nation opines Will Hutton.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/01/america-is-not-the-land-of-the-free-but-one-of-monopolies-so-predatory-they-imperil-the-nation
Cartoon Corner
David Rowe has a lot going on in Morrison’s bedroom.
From Matt Golding.
Pat Campbell
Mark David and yet another warning system.
Johannes Leak also ventures into Morrison’s bedroom.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a987b68ed3cb39d34dd5354cdf597a05?width=1024
From the US
Victoria says: Monday, December 2, 2019 at 7:26 am
And in more positive news on the home front, my father has been moved out of ICU and into the ward.
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On a dreary Gippsland morning it is good to hear your great brighten up the day news, Victoria – hope things just keeping better for your father and he is home for a family Xmas …..
C@t, if your air conditioner is a split system, then it merely recycles indoor air. It does have a filter, but it mainly filters out fluff (ie not very good for small particles).
As an aside, those filters should be cleaned of fluff regularly. This is virtually universally never done. Whenever we are staying away, I check the filters and clean them. Sometimes they are completely clogged rendering the air conditioner virtually useless.
Vic
Best wishes for your Dad and yourself.
Fantastic news, Vic! Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief. 🙂
Thanks, PeeBee. I’ll clean the filters. However, around here we are filter sleuths. We found another one in the vacuum cleaner the other day! It’s how we keep our appliances going for so long. 😀
Thanks BK for the Dawn Patrol.
From the BK Files ⏬⏬⏬
Shane Wright explains how the budget is taking a revenue hit while the government prepares to lift spending in key areas including aged care and in response to the drought. Slow wage growth alone will punch an $8 billion hole in it.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/surplus-taking-a-hit-as-wages-and-drought-hit-bottom-line-20191129-p53ff7.html
BK often leaves an Easter Egg for the unwary. The current Gummint barely notices amounts such as $8 million which would describe pin money.
Sadly the article makes no mention of just what is plannned ( ❓ ) for Aged Care or Drought relief.
Dark clouds over Newcastle just teasing – dammit Muriel.
Ken Wyatt has form for bullying.
C@t,
We also have sensitivities to airborne pollutants in our household. The past few weeks’ imprisonment have been … Not fun.
We are using our air con to filter the air too.
We also have a system installed which pumps air in through filters.
Our state should be publishing health warnings and advice for those most vulnerable.
Maybe redirect advertising budget from the current ‘aren’t we wonderful for building these roads and bridges’ stuff to advice that actually helps the citizens.
Gladys…. Premier for platitudes.
Morning all. Thanks BK for today’s wrap.
And good to hear Victoria’s father is out of critical.
Firefox says:
Monday, December 2, 2019 at 7:13 am
“Oh dear Labors desire to be honest and blunt about the anti Labor coalition and what they have done seems to be gaining pace.”
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Yawn. Nah. Labor are just whinging and blaming everyone else for their own failures as usual. What’s new?
I don’t expect the Greens to reflect on what they have become, more secret little meetings; be dam with the environment, get Labor is the goal.
The Greens Kool Aid is strong. 🙂
Maude Lynne,
Yes, that’s the one thing Gladys is very, very good at it, the Officer Barbrady line, ‘Nothing to see here. Move along.’ 😐
Thanks again BK
David Rowe has a lot going on in Morrison’s bedroom.
Surely not ❗ Could it be ❓ Is that a Top Hat being used as a Gazunder * ❓
* What is a Gazunda?
Chamber pot | chamberpot | jordan | jerry | po | gazunder | piss pot | potty | thunder pot. a bowl-shaped container with a handle, and often a lid, kept in the bedroom under a bed or in the cabinet of a nightstand and generally used as a toilet at night.
At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious,
It’s a Gazunda because it
Goes Under the bed
So are the greens going to wake up and look for solutions or play another 10 years of anti Labor politics.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/01/scientists-theory-of-climates-titanic-moment-the-tip-of-a-mathematical-iceberg
Just in time for the Can the Plan Convoy… some further clarifications of Morrison’s MDB Panic Policy settings:
The taxpayer-funded subsidy is around $900 (90%) per megalitre.
One of Morrison’s MDB panic policy package elements: 25 megs per farmer, has quietly been put to bed. It has been doubled to 50 megs per farmer. But the second 25 megs would not be available until after April 1 next year. This raises the potential tax payer funded freebies to individual farmers from 25x$900 to 50x$900 with not a Robocop in sight. Not bad work if you can get it. Lifters and leaners.
A further policy restriction has been announced. If you already have a Gig of water, you can’t apply. Not many irrigators have a Gig and the ones who do, basically the very, very large irrigators, wouldn’t notice the 50 megs and are almost certainly not using irrigation for pasture or for fodder crops. So basically this limit is a sop to smaller farmers.
The restriction to pasture and fodder crops remains. All sorts of spy mechanisms will be used to monitor this in case the dastardly farmer decide to make a real buck out of it by growing what they would prefer to grow. This is basically Stalinist GOSsplanning on the run. In terms of the overall fodder market during the drought it will make fuck all difference at a system level. It is a political sop.
The pasture subvention intervention will keep a few more uncompetitive dairy farmers going for another year or two.
Socialism and the Nanny State gone mad.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-02/drought-deal-to-deliver-fodder-water-by-next-week/11754858
Boerwar
You explanation is no doubt perfectly plain to Quiet Australians, who get their water from decent conservative taps in their decent conservative homes, but to this little black duck it is incomprehensible and reads just like a ScoMo scam.
The book by ‘Anonymous’ doesn’t appear to be telling people anything they don’t already know.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-anonymous-white-house-insider-memory-1472661
The article by Eryk Bagshaw about Ken Wyatt’s office is a must read. It shows what is going on under the surface sheen of the Scott Morrison government:
‘Eryk Bagshaw reports that the former chief of staff to Minister for Indigenous Australians Ken Wyatt has accused the minister of fostering a culture of bullying in his office, saying he ignored “outrageous and unconscionable” behaviour.’
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/minister-oversaw-culture-of-bullying-says-former-chief-of-staff-20191129-p53fhk.html
KayJay
Pies Akerman has a soul mate over in Seppoland. Those RWers have a real bee in their bonnet when it comes to using holidays in their Kulturkampf
Good Morning
Cat
Its Labor partisans whose KoolAid is strong.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-03/united-nations-chief-warns-asia-quit-addiction-to-coal/11667416
Edit: Of course Labor wants to blame the Greens rather than admit it got it wrong. Even though they sacked the Prime Minister responsible.
It really is gobsmacking listening to the talk about how crap the economy is on ABC TV this morning.
Not one single mention of the government, the prime minister, the treasurer. Apparently none of this has anything to do with Morrison or Fryo.
No talk of the opposition.
If Labor was in power these people would be frothing at the mouth.