The latest fortnightly Essential Research poll still offers nothing on voting intention, though it’s relative interesting in that it features the pollster’s monthly leadership ratings. Contrary to Newspoll, these record a weakening in Anthony Albanese’s ratings, with approval down three to 37% and disapproval up five to 34%. Scott Morrison also worsens slightly, down two on approval to 45% and up three on disapproval to 41%, and his preferred prime minister read is essentially steady at 44-28 (43-28 last month).
Further questions relate to the right to protest, including the finding that 33% would support laws flagged by Scott Morrison that “could make consumer or environment boycotts illegal”, while 39% were opposed. Fifty-eight per cent agreed the government had “the right to limit citizen protests when it disrupts business”, with 31% for disagree; but that 53% agreed that “protestors should have the right to pressure banks not to invest in companies that are building coal mines”, with 33% disagreeing.
The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1075 respondents chosen from an online panel.
Or he’s doing what he’s often done since becoming PM in trying to slow down the news cycle.
lefty e
Being out of sight he hopes also means out of mind . Let others cop the flack.
JimmyD & poroti
Yes. Don’t keep underestimating Morrison.
I am just giving the translation of the place name. Manhood belt with big stone axe for hunting.
What are you talking about?
So, let’s fill in the vacuum created b y the AWOL Scott Morrison with Friendly Jordies, shall we?
https://youtu.be/Qt-coJH2X8Y
Simon Katich @ #156 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 10:58 am
A big tool.
I’d love to hear Aliir Aliir singing Away Away.
And Ronnie Corbett did have a dark side – https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x415g4t
People who believe in sky fairies have defective thinking processes. They are not capable of straightforward, rational thought, by definition. They think that the myths and legends of middle eastern nomadic sheep and goat herders have relevance to current day dilemmas. They think that the collected letters of three first century cult leaders, to people like the Corinthians and Timothy (who?), should be applied to the way that non cult members lead their lives. They think that Royal Commissions into organised paedophile activity by their cult are, to quote one, ‘populist witch hunts’. One of them even thinks that Bolt is a honest man, an objective analyst. Really!!!?? Fat chance.
+1 yabba
Pegasus
Indeed as Scrott has had decades of training in the art of selling snake oil to the peasants at his happy clapper hang out. What those megachurch pastor’s don’t know about flimflammery isn’t worth knowing.
“There’s s difference between discussing an individual, and nursing a personal grudge.”
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The thing is though, before the election there were a large number of Labor supporters here attacking Richard Di Natale over the way he looked in some photos. “The Black Wiggle” gave them a great laugh for days on end.
As for politics and RDN’s offer to Shorten to negotiate and work together, the Labor folks here were outright dismissive of that entirely. RDN was finished as Greens leader they reckoned because the right wing media was telling them that the Greens were finished too. Shorten wouldn’t require those irrelevant pesky Greens when he commanded a large Labor majority, or so they thought.
“Labor is a party of government,” they emphatically declared. Famous last words right there.
It’s all well and good for you Labor lot to start attacking the Greens but as soon as the shoe is on the other foot you cry foul when someone dares to talk about a former Labor leader.
nath
You must be laughing at the frothing of the usual suspects.
The question has to be asked – Why can’t they just ignore your posts on Shorten?
Their obsession with your posts about Shorten says a great deal.
Whose obsession is of greater value? There are so many around here it is difficult to choose lol
A sense of humour required.
I actually think it is born of fear Yabba.
To think you are a) insignificant and b) when you die you are merely extinguished — are both difficult for many to cope with. They’d rather suspend disbelief and hope that something of them endures and they used the myth of ‘heaven’ to sustain them.
Pegasus @ #155 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 10:56 am
I can’t think of anyone on Labor’s front bench who isn’t scared, spooked by Scrott’s capacity for steamrollering right over the top of them whenever he thinks he needs to because he knows he can.
Labor is in full 90lb weakling mode.
I usually do ignore nath’s posts, Peg.
But with everything that is currently happening in the world, for him/her/it to suddenly pop up with the Shorten alarm (a completely irrelevant distraction) just smacks of crazy.
Firefox
The irony of the usual suspects to portend with great relish it would be the Greens who would implode after the election….
For example. Morrison should explain this. If he decides to come out of hiding……
former fire and emergency leaders say they tried for months to warn Prime Minister Scott Morrison that Australia needed more water-bombers to tackle bigger, faster and hotter bushfires.
Key points:
Former NSW fire chief Greg Mullins says he doesn’t believe he will get a meeting with Scott Morrison
He says earlier preparation would have helped keep people safe in the horror bushfires currently gripping NSW and Queensland
A giant water-bomber is on its way to Australia from the USA
Former New South Wales Fire and Rescue chief Greg Mullins — one of the founders of the Emergency Leaders for Climate Action Group — said the group sought a meeting with the Federal Government to discuss the issue in April and again in May, immediately after the federal election.
“We have tried since April to get a meeting with the Prime Minister,” Mr Mullins told ABC Radio on Thursday morning. “It’s clear now we won’t get that meeting.
Note “quietly released”. Perhaps ScoMo won’t notice.
Here is article
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-14/former-fire-chief-calls-out-pm-over-refusal-of-meeting/11705330
jenauthor
If you don’t have the restraint to take the bait, it’s your problem, not his.
Pegasus
says:
Friday, November 15, 2019 at 11:11 am
nath
You must be laughing at the frothing of the usual suspects.
The question has to be asked – Why can’t they just ignore your posts on Shorten?
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I have trained them well 🙂
C@tmomma @ #27 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 7:33 am
That’d be the Hills Hoist wouldn’t it.
Quietly seems to be the game plan. Stupidly not far away.
Reminds me of the little boy with a teddy bear called Gladly. When asked why, he said he called it after Gladly my Cross Eyed Bear.
The thing is, the Greens are not going to win government in the next ten or fifteen years, the timeframe where something must be done about climate change.
So yes, for the immediate future, Labor is the party of government that matters for climate action, which is why I think there’s a lot of merit in the argument that the Greens have done a lot of harm to achieving environmental/climate action through their virulent anti-Labor campaigning choices and rhetoric.
nath
lol You understand well how to elicit the Pavlovian response.
By the by I did enjoy your Groucho characterisation last night.
It’s the “wonderful” thing about the internet. 99% of the users can ignore the trolls, but 1% will be triggered into responding. Ain’t it great? For trolls, that is.
In Victoria, The Greens party and the Reason Party are co-sponsoring a bill on a 2 year pill testing trial. I am hoping for more of this constructive collaboration.
I am reconciled to the probability that Labor may remain in opposition for the 2020s and that its next successful leader (electable) is not yet in the parliament.
Now on with life.
jackol
Who is a troll is in the eye of the beholder.
shellbell @ #63 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 7:58 am
Easy. “As good as it may be, it’s not superior to the combined judgement of 12 jurors and two justices who all unamiously agreed that Pell was guilty beyond reasonable doubt”.
Rodney Tiffen’s take:
Why campaigning mattered
Labor’s campaign review highlights how the party misjudged in the lead-up to the election
https://insidestory.org.au/why-campaigning-mattered/
It really would be helpful to get a bit of self reflection from some contributors who delight in throwing criticism at others and then react aggressively when the reverse occurs.
Here’s some red meat for some of you to get stuck into….
Former Greens senator Andrew Bartlett:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-greens-senator-says-party-must-fast-track-plans-to-give-members-more-power-20191114-p53aqm.html
jenauthor @ #166 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 11:12 am
I do not often think about why the medieaval cults continue to exist, but for individuals who still cling to them, I think that there are many reasons, mostly social. For most of the last 1600 years, in most European societies, an apparent belief in Christianity was a necessary part of full participation in, and any advancement in society. In the USA, a professed atheist sill has no hope of political success.
Some of those who are effectively brainwashed as children, in religious schools, and via churches, plainly never mature enough to throw off their deeply inculcated superstitions. There are a few examples who hang out here. I am certainly incredulous that they hang on to the wacky idea of ‘eternal life’. Personally, having ‘died’ once already, prior to CABG,I have no illusions about dead being dead, just like the unfortunate rainbow lorikeet that smacked into my window yesterday, or the cockroach I stomped on outside the front door this morning, when I went out to bring in the garbage bin.
“The thing is, the Greens are not going to win government in the next ten or fifteen years, the timeframe where something must be done about climate change.”
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You don’t need to win a majority or even be in government to make a huge difference. The Greens are the only party in the parliament who consistently advocate on behalf of the environment.
The Carbon Price/ETS was and still is a Greens’ policy. Remember that Greens’ policy which we managed to force Labor to implement? Then Labor went and undid all our good work by engaging in a brutal civil war for 3 years and handing power to Abbott.
You are right, the next ten to fifteen years are very important. That’s why it is so critical that we highlight the fact that Labor’s position on climate change doesn’t go anywhere near far enough to addressing the problem. If Labor were to have their way for the next decade straight it still wouldn’t be enough. That’s what you Labor lot need to understand; what you are proposing will not prevent Australia from experiencing the consequences of catastrophic climate change. Allowing mines like Adani to go ahead will only make things worse.
If not now, when?
Diary of a Climate Scientist | Bushfires and climate change are undoubtedly linked, so it’s time to get serious
https://insidestory.org.au/if-not-now-when/
“But I guess that’s what happens when the political party you support so fulsomely is floundering around, gasping for relevance.”
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All you’re doing here is reflecting on Labor’s current situation after the election.
I yield to the PB shed toolmaster. There can be only one.
Rh – thank you that is very enlightening – you are correct I appear to have been confusing at least two separate things (most of the reports in the press are likewise confused – unfortunately this seems to be a general phenomenon)
Have none of you anything sensible to say?
In the midst of your snowball throwing, has anyone noticed the connections between Angus Taylor and his grassland clearing and the killing of eagles? A thread of complete disregard and contempt for the environment. These are our masters, folks.
And also…
Greensborough Growler @ #78 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 8:31 am
The people still defending Pell are the ones with the prejudice. The rest of us are just accepting the determination made by others who actually assessed both the evidence against Pell and the strongest arguments Pell’s defense could raise against them.
Those people found him guilty. The only basis for ignoring their conclusions and deciding that you personally know better without having access to any of the facts and evidence is hubris, bias, and prejudice.
lizzie,
Angus Taylor is due to face increased scrutiny when parliament returns. I know our Authoritarian Police State leader doesn’t particularly like parliament but it has to come back every now and again for appearances sake, so hopefully the matters that concern you will be addressed then.
C@t
I smell a network of corruption within the Coalition. (Can you smell a network?)
My first OH had rather a crude saying: “You don’t know who’s up who and who’s paying.”
The Bolt ‘pacman’ reinactment premise was rejected by all three judges ( including the dissenting Judge).
Bolt does not mention that in his video.
The archbishop premise of an previously unknown evil Pell twin being present and commuting the abuse has more credibility.
‘It is often said that oppositions don’t win elections, governments lose them. But an opposition needs to help a government lose, to reinforce in the minds of potentially swinging voters what a disaster it has been.’
….’Labor seemingly made little effort to rebut the government’s central charges of economic incompetence and greatly increased taxes.’
Point 1; Labor is gutless and gormless.
Point 2; Labor is gutless and gormless.
This is funny. Cash must have the most commanding voice in the Parliament.
lizzie @ #199 Friday, November 15th, 2019 – 11:53 am
These are our masters, folks.
Yep.
And will be until the ALP works out a political strategy to free us.
ALP – political strategy.
You see the problem there.
Firefox says:
Friday, November 15, 2019 at 11:40 am
“The thing is, the Greens are not going to win government in the next ten or fifteen years, the timeframe where something must be done about climate change.”
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You don’t need to win a majority or even be in government to make a huge difference.
Your not wrong there, they Greens have managed to completely stuff it up. We have zipp nothing nadda. Nothing.
This is how they keep control of us. Workers always lose.