Essential Research has released its fortnightly poll, once again without voting intention results. It includes a series of questions on Scott Morrison’s visit to the United States, with results generally more favourable than I personally would have expected. For example, the most negative finding is that 32% agreed that Donald Trump’s presidency has been good for Australia, compared with 49% who disagreed. By way of comparison, a Lowy Institute survey in March found 66% believed Trump had weakened the alliance, and only 25% had either a lot of or some confidence in him.
Only 38% agreed that a good relationship between Scott Morrison and Donald Trump reflected badly on Australia, compared with 48% who disagreed. Other results were probably too influenced by question wording to be of much value. Fifty-seven percent felt Morrison had shown “good diplomacy skills” during the visit, a quality that might be attributed to anyone who maintains a straight face in the President’s presence. The statement that Morrison “should have attended the UN Climate Summit, alongside other world leaders” is compromised by the words in italics (which are my own), but for what it’s worth, 70% agreed and 20% disagreed.
A question on the state of the economy likewise produces a result less bad than the government might have feared, with 32% rating it good and 33% poor. Fifty-one per cent supported Australian military involvement in the Middle East, after it was put to them that Australia had “agreed to provide military support to their allies in the Middle East to protect shipping and trade in the region”, with 35% opposed.
Essential has not yet published the full report on its website, so the precise sample size cannot be identified, but it will assuredly have been between 1000 and 1100. The poll was conducted online from Thursday to Sunday.
frednk @ #951 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 11:22 am
Talking Point #7: It is our humanitarian duty to sell our coal to poorer undeveloped countries!
🙁
lizzie @ #944 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 10:50 am
No sweat. I am quite fortunate that my daughters pretend that I’m quite clever.
The truth ❓
Or maybe Chicken Man.
Yep it certainly does….
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It can feel like Alice in Wonderland meets the Sopranos meets the Marx Brothers, a narrative that is at the same time worrisome and dizzying.
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Renato Mariotti
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A second CIA official with more direct knowledge of Trump’s wrongdoing is thinking about coming forward and becoming a whistleblower, according to the
@nytimes
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2nd Official Is Weighing Whether to Blow the Whistle on Trump’s Ukraine Dealings
The official, a member of the intelligence community, was interviewed by the inspector general to corroborate the original whistle-blower’s account.
nytimes.com
Talking Point #7: It is our humanitarian duty to sell our coal to poorer undeveloped countries!
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And there is a virtuous circle too – we can then blame them for not doing enough carbon emission reduction to justify our own inaction.
Everyone, including us, needs to be reducing our use of coal and other fossil fuels, moving to renewables. Whether we should stop mining and exporting the stuff is a different question. Coal will be a major input to energy supplies for the next couple of decades, but it’s a dying industry, especially now since the economics seem to be moving against it. Mining billionaires don’t care about the environment or the climate, but they do care about the dollars.
I think we should continue to mine and sell the stuff as long as anyone wants to buy it, as we do with uranium. However, at the same time we should be making every effort to move away from dependence on what has got to be a dying industry. Otherwise we’ll look like Saudi Arabia after the oil runs out.
“You can dress it up with whatever justification you like, but the reality is that you are here day after day arguing that we don’t need to actually do anything.”
P1, i think you are substantially misrepresenting the attitudes of many who post here. People would probably have more respect for your assertions if you didn’t.
Seems to me broad agreement there is a problem, we are all very late in addressing it and real, actual change is urgent. The arguments are around how to do that. Actually, practically, how to get the political and policy changes needed to mitigate (we are well past solve) the problems that come with Climate Change.
Yup, a lot of the people like me, obviously ALP supporters are pissed at the Greens over this. But that’s mainly because I see the Greens attitude to policy purity as an impractical impediment to real action.
LoL, if they had supported the Rudd CPRS back in the day, got what they could and worked to then improve on it, we probably would never have had Abbott as PM and where would we be now?? 🙂
Then there was the complete fwark up on Adani . Making it THE icon issue on which all else must be judged that gave the Coalition so much room to frame as they wanted.
But, whats obvious is that the Center/Left of politics has to get its shit together and while not doing a “Coalition” thing (that’s toxic for the ALP out in punter-land) at least be considerably more co-operative at a policy level.
I will always pref Greens ahead of the RWNutbaggers and Libs and Nats. But i’d be happier with that if they would as a party actually admit to fwark ups when they make them and actually walk the walk as well as talk the talk. Until then, more and more of same same blame on the left that works to the coalitions advantage.
And, for something completely different and n0n controversial for the tech minded……….
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/10/hidden-writing-revealed-ancient-scroll-buried-same-ash-pompeii
HOW THE FRACK GOOD IS THIS!!!!!
Real Science is reading ancient library catalogs huh!!
This takedown of Clive Palmer is very funny and very good. (Bit long!)
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/the-streisand-effect/
Vic:
The bonus with the whistleblowers is that while the WH and Trump’s crony cabinet can stonewall and deflect House requests for information, whistleblowers can front the inquiry any time.
It’s why Trump is so stupid attacking whistleblowers – there’s bound to be more career employees who would rather blow the whistle on his crimes than endure his slurs.
Lock him up!
I’m nervous about this. They haven’t got anything right so far. Any response, guys?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1179985510049013760
“I’m nervous about this. They haven’t got anything right so far. Any response, guys?”
Honestly lizzie……..I dont think any of this matters until they make the rules such that upstream irrigators dont snaffle huge amounts of water when it floods and let that flow down to spread out and soak into floodplains. Doesn’t matter what infrastructure you have, if there is no water its useless.
Strange, the problem isn’t completely about how we deal with dry times when threat of drought is obvious. Part of it is how we deal with wet times when no-one is thinking about water allocation problems.
imacca
That’s the base they seem to be ignoring. It’s all “when it rains again”.
lizzie
1. Taxpayer funds are going to subsidize on farm irrigation works including those owned by very large multi national corporations either partially or completely owned by overseas investors. To that extent it is a net wealth transfer from Australia to other nations.
2. Taxpayer funds are going to subsidize an increase in on-farm water holding capacity. Depending on the volumes involved this will result in even further distortions of the MDB water management.
3. Digging bores is another word for expediting access to groundwater. This is a taxpayer subsidy to increase private farm values. Where groundwater is already fully exploited or over exploited drilling additional bores makes the water management situation worse, not better.
In short yet another pork barrel which makes the larger long term issues worse and which involve city taxpayers subsidizing increases in the capital value of both individuals and foreign-owned corporations.
To top it off, the environment will suffer even more.
Boy a pretty solid clive takedown.
https://youtu.be/WmJ7CSRRCDM
Boerwar
Business as usual for the LNP, then. 🙁
‘lizzie says:
Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 12:17 pm
imacca
Doesn’t matter what infrastructure you have, if there is no water its useless.
That’s the base they seem to be ignoring. It’s all “when it rains again”.’
You desilt dams when they are bone dry so now is the right time to do it.
lizzie
Yep. Coalition BAU. It is like a political positive feedback machine. Feed money into the bush and the bush votes for you so you feed money into the bush and the bush votes for you…
imacca @ #963 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 11:50 am
No, I don’t think so. Anyone who thinks we can or should continue to either burn or export coal for a few more decades is just plain wrong, and has not been keeping abreast of the science. Such nonsense should not just be allowed to just go unchecked – it should be challenged.
You should perhaps instead be asking why the same few posters insist on posting such nonsense – usually unprovoked – day after day after day. Why do they oppose any action to prevent new coal mines opening, while simultaneoulsly claiming that those coal mines will never produce any coal? Why to they oppose carbon taxes when this has been demonstrated to be an efficient and cost-effective way to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions?
Now, I am not expecting our coal exports to drop to zero tomorrow (although I would expect us to stop burning coal ourselves – particularly brown coal – within a very short time frame) but maintaining that some mythical “market forces” are going to do that for us without significant additional intervention is possibly just plain ignorance, possibly just poking your head in the sand … or possibly deliberate obfuscation or deceit. Take your pick.
Jennifer Marohasy has written a book on the “facts” and climate change. Seems BOM can’t be relied on. Haven’t got the energy to dissect this. I’ll just paste it.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/10/climate-change-the-facts-and-how-you-can-help-to-spread-them/
Edit: This is part of an IPA series.
Oh, and second edit. This is actually an appeal for money for the IPA book!
lizzie @ #971 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 12:20 pm
Interesting observation and it also happens on this blog. However, the advantage Julia has over the readers of PB is that she at least participates in a programme that considers a diverse range of issues.
What we have on PB is the same people making the same points they made yesterday, and the day before and the week before and the often the year before. It does become a little tedious.
GG
And the tediosity is made so much worse when they are hard to understand.
lizzie
Classic Marohasy = not worth the time and effort to rebut.
The fact that the IPA publishes this sort of tendentious rubbish tells us about the intellectual qualities of the IPA.
lizzie @ #978 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 12:49 pm
Another one who can’t seem to understand the difference between ‘climate’ and ‘weather’ 🙁
Greensborough Growler @ #981 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 12:51 pm
Certainly does 🙁
I enjoyed watching this video. Car chases rhino, which turns and fights.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1180191700003610624
Don’t you just love wombats!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1180262237979598848
Oops!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/rix-creek-mine-approved-before-decision-made/11576662
I’ll give you one guess what the eventual outcome will be, once the IPC have actually pretended to read the submissions. 🙁
I reckon some of these IPC people must post here on PB 🙂
frednk @ #973 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 12:23 pm
I loved it! And I’m going to buy the t-shirt!
Fess
Trump and his cronies modus operandi is to throw plenty of mud. After all, some always sticks.
Further exposure of Trump’s phone manner with world leaders.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGEss4lWwAMmqMu?format=jpg&name=240×240
Bill KristolVerified account @BillKristol
Putting Russia First: “In a summer 2018 call with Prime Minister Theresa May, Trump…disputed her intelligence community’s conclusion that Putin’s government had orchestrated the attempted murder and poisoning of a former Russian spy on British soil.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-have-long-worried-aides-leaving-some-genuinely-horrified/2019/10/04/537cc7a8-e602-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html
Tom NicholsVerified account @RadioFreeTom
This is a level of discord between the Western allies the leaders of the old Soviet Union could only dream of achieving. And all because the US President is not only ignorant and uneducable, but also, very likely, because he fears what Russian intelligence might know about him.
Strikes me that The Guardian should have named the longstanding friend of Morrison’s who’s also a QAnon Krazy.
Since when would the
● potential entanglements between the two men (and their wives, apparently),
● the perception of nepotism, and
●Morrison’s agreement to investigate Alexander Downer’s role in Trump’s travails (themselves part of the whacky QAnon worldview)
warrant the protections of anonymity?
I’m probably missing something here, I guess. But on the surface this appears to involve t least common cronyism as well as more serious matters of state at the absolute highest levels.
“Another one who can’t seem to understand the difference between ‘climate’ and ‘weather’ ”
Quite common among the denialatte. But, the kind of people who take Marohasy seriously are also the kind who think daS Bonkers Monkers is brilliant.. go figure……
Horrible story. The guy flew from Norway to the US for this surprise.
“A man accidentally shot and killed his son-in-law who had jumped out of a bush to surprise him on his birthday, US police said.
Richard Dennis, 61, will not face criminal charges after killing Christopher Bergan in Florida on Tuesday.
The 37-year-old victim made a growling sound before he jumped out to surprise Mr Dennis, the police said.”
Good story on the reach of David Rowe.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-04/cartoonist-david-rowe-on-donald-trump-scott-morrison-and-satire/11566888?pfmredir=sm
‘Jennifer Marohasy has written a book on the “facts”…’
These would be alterntive facts.
Greensborough Growler says: Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 1:58 pm
Good story on the reach of David Rowe.
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Great article GG !!!! …… David Rowe is an absolute genius in his work.
Diogenes
says:
Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 1:41 pm
Horrible story. The guy flew from Norway to the US for this surprise.
“A man accidentally shot and killed his son-in-law who had jumped out of a bush to surprise him on his birthday, US police said.
Richard Dennis, 61, will not face criminal charges after killing Christopher Bergan in Florida on Tuesday.
The 37-year-old victim made a growling sound before he jumped out to surprise Mr Dennis, the police said.”
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It was probably going to end badly either way:
What more barbarous than the sudden scream of “Surprise!” and the unpleasing visages from the past looming into view, not to mention the wrong cocktails?
Now the scientific evidence is in. Surprise parties can kill. To put the matter in scientific terms: Emotional stress can precipitate severe, reversible left ventricular dysfunction in patients without coronary disease. Exaggerated sympathetic stimulation is probably central to the cause of this syndrome.
Or, in the words of the press release from Johns Hopkins: Researchers at Johns Hopkins have discovered that sudden emotional stress can also result in severe but reversible heart muscle weakness that mimics a classic heart attack. Patients with this condition, called stress cardiomyopathy, but known colloquially as “broken heart” syndrome, are often misdiagnosed with a massive heart attack when, indeed, they have suffered from a days-long surge in adrenalin (epinephrine) and other stress hormones that temporarily “stun” the heart.
https://freepress.org/article/no-surprise-suprise-parties-can-kill
Rowe is easily our best cartoonist IMO.
Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
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COVER UP
BREAKING:
@SecPompeo
fails to meet House #subpoena deadline to produce #Ukraine-related documents.
@HouseDemocrats
should hold him in #contempt until he complies‼️
#Coverup #Ukrainegate #Obstruction
@SpeakerPelosi
@RepAdamSchiff
Pompeo fails to meet House subpoena deadline to produce Ukraine documents
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Friday failed to meet a subpoena deadline from the House to produce Ukraine-related documents.
cnn.com
nath
I’d kill my wife if she ever gave me a surprise party.
Victoria says: Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 2:18 pm
Dr. Dena Grayson
SecPompeo fails to meet House #subpoena deadline to produce #Ukraine-related documents.
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This is a real test to see how committed the Democrats are with this impeachment process – they need to drop the hammer on Pompeo – and anyone else who does not comply – and subject them to the strongest legal options they have – be it jail, fines etc etc …..
Diogenes @ #1002 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 2:19 pm
The normalisation of prospective violence against the female partners of insecure men is not funny.
If Mike Pompeo had nothing to hide he would not be behaving as he is.
Greensborough Growler @ #1004 Saturday, October 5th, 2019 – 2:25 pm
+1