The BludgerTrack poll aggregate this week records a strong move back to Labor, which partly reflects the Coalition’s soft Newspoll result this week. However, it’s also indicative of how sensitive the model is short-term fluctuations now that it’s using the start of the Turnbull era of year zero, and thus only has a small number of data points. The story on the primary vote is that the Greens have recovered some of the ground they lost over the previous weeks, with the Labor primary vote remaining steady. The difference all this makes to the seat projection is rather modest, with the Coalition dropping two seats in New South Wales and one in Queensland. The leadership ratings from Newspoll give a further boost to Malcolm Turnbull’s already strong net approval rating, but the other indicators are essentially unchanged. Preferred prime minister and Turnbull’s net approval are still being determined through weighted averages of all polling since the leadership change, rather than trend measures.
What’s more:
• The meeting of the New South Wales Liberal Party’s state council on the weekend, chiefly noted for the heckling delivered to the Prime Minister, saw the demise of a proposal for all preselections to be conducted by plebiscites of party members, in place of the current system where the vote is divided between branch delegates and head office. This was despite just such a reform being advocated by a post-election review conducted by a panel headed by John Howard. However, a compromise resolution will see plebiscites conducted in one federal seat before next year’s election, two for the subsequent federal election due in 2019, and two for the next state election, also due in 2019.
• Tom McIlroy of the Canberra Times identifies Christina Hobbs, a United Nations World Food Program program officer, as a possible starter for the Greens’ Senate preselection in the Australian Capital Territory. However, the report also cites a party source saying its resources were likely to be concentrated elsewhere, particularly on “potentially difficult fights in Queensland, NSW and South Australia”.
BB
I am in a location which might be last to get NBN of any kind but I was happy enough with my ADSL2. However I simply changes PLANS and the result has been loss of service. it was not even a major plan change, just one of those supposedly minor upgrades.
TBA
[BULLSHIT!
This woman and leftwing lawyers played the Governments Bluff and they LOST.
And Back. She. Goes.]
Some of your posts have irritated me but this is just sad.
There is something desperately wrong with you.
I am in an area where Optus could provide an ADSL basic service but NOT ADSL2. I have NO idea why.
What is happening now is EXACTLY the same as what happened when I was at the end of my old Optus Plan.
I am stuck with Telstra unless I go for a wireless based system. The service just slowed and became useless.
Has anyone any info on what the differences are?
It took 36 seconds to make the last post
[There is something desperately wrong with you]
Nothing that isn’t also wrong with Morrison, Dutton and Turnbull.
daretotread@1603
I’m not sure if this is what you mean, but I have fixed wireless, I have my phone as part of the deal, nominal 25/5 megabits, but usually 20/4 which is still pretty good.
There is a small square antenna on the roof, and I am paying half what I was before with Telstra. It has been very reliable.
What’s with all this talk about divorce on retirement?
Is this the latest Financial Planning Strategy fad for lefties?
Cc,
Ask your OH. I would imagine she has been looking into it.
CC
[ Is this the latest Financial Planning Strategy fad for lefties? ]
No, we’re all planning to follow your leader and invest our money in the Cayman Islands.
Shame about what that will do to the Australian economy, but at least we’ll be ok!
CC
Divorce on retirement?
Not uncommon I believe.
A colleague who had accumulated a more than healthy pile over his working life was a couple of years away from retirement and as setting up a SMSF.
He was somewhat taken aback when his advisor asked “how are you getting on with your wife.”
There is nothing wrong with George Newhouse. Like David Manne and their counsel, they stand up for these people where most don’t. No politicians in power or capable of exercising power are going to stand up for them.
[If Beatty hadn’t been so piss-weak, he would have got his Queensland wallopers to do some investigating and arrest those who gave the orders.]
It was Beatty’s wallopers who picked her up and dumped her with Immigration because she had a foreign accent. Immigration could not work out who she was and this was when the whole system was under-resourced and in uproar because the number of unauthorised arrivals had peaked – this was just before Tampa brought things to a head.
rossmcg
[ He was somewhat taken aback when his advisor asked “how are you getting on with your wife.” ]
How could you resist the obvious rejoiner – “Well, just so-so with mine … but I’m doing really well with yours!” 🙂
Player one
It would seem you are well named!
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TBA
BULLSHIT!
This woman and leftwing lawyers played the Governments Bluff and they LOST.
And Back. She. Goes.
Some of your posts have irritated me but this is just sad.
There is something desperately wrong with you.
]
It’s hard to know what is more pitiful; an emotional shrivelled up poster or a government that fears the law of the land.
[ It’s hard to know what is more pitiful; an emotional shrivelled up poster or a government that fears the law of the land. ]
All of those expecting Saint Malcolm to be different on such matters foiled again.
+The Earl of Wentworth – just a different flavour of bad+
dave
Malcolm must learn to question Dutton more closely if he wants to gain credibility.
lizzie
Dutton is a real worry IMO.
Left there to do the dirty work?
But a way could have been found to resolve the situation with this young woman – probably quite easily as well.
Turnbull in NZ etc – pretending not to be across the issue/ details.
I cll utter Bullshit on that.
The whole rationale for offshore processing was to put would-be asylum seekers out of reach of the protection abd rights afforded by Australian law.
cll = call
Shellbell,
With great respect I am always suspicious of lawyers who have an agenda. Newhouse and Manne may be heroes to some. However, their track record of achievement through traducing others does them no credit.
To me, they invent problems for whatever cause du jour is running.
Apart from being serial losers, they don’t seem to be overly familiar with their clients and seem to be playing to the heart strings of the left rather than the best interests of their clients.
I know people seem to think they are putting pressure on the Government to change things. The reality is they seem to systematically alienate the people that might be able to assist them achieve their goal.
But, that’s just my opinion.
TPOF@1612
I took a fair bit of interest at the time and that is not how I recall it.
I understood it to be all the work of the Immigration Department.
I was absolutely horrified when it all emerged. She was obviously ill when reported, both physically and mentally. Normal human beings would not do what was done to her.
Dear God!
ABC TV News is like a department of the Government Information Service lately.
We had the funeral of the poor bloke murdered in Parramatta, which while sad for his family, was way over the top with Premiers and Police Commissioners attending.
Now we have Malcolm Turnbull “on foreign soil for the first time as PM”, saluting at War Memorials, shirtfronting haka chanting maoris and sticking up for Australia by saying “No” to Kiwi crims.
ABC News is so straightened and conventional it’s sickening.
dave
For Dutton to say that all requests for medical attention onshore are deceptive stunts is condemning them all because a few might (allegedly) have tried it. But who can blame them in such conditions anyway.
BB,
So sad you’ve only got Ray Hadley left.
lizzie
Turnbull really showed his colours on this – ie leaving dutton in the job – someone without empathy and who couldn’t lie straight in bed.
He comes from up truthie’s way of course.
BB
[ ABC News is so straightened and conventional it’s sickening. ]
It has been for several years now. I don’t know why so many people are just beginning to notice – maybe it’s gotten worse recently. I neither watch nor listen now, which I guess was the goal in the first place.
Rather than keep doing what we’re doing, we woukd be much better off withdrawing from the Refugee Convention. After all, it has been 15 years since we made much attempt to meet the spirit of the law in this regard, let alone the letter. I think we should do the following:
– reach a Malaysia style agreement with Indonesia and other neighbours to return irregular maritime arrivals to their country of departure. Such agreements need to be effectively open-ended.
– shut down the offshore detention centres and bring the detainees to Australia.
– Allow a one-off amnesty for the few tens of thousands detained at home or abroad.
– Take the risk that not many have developed a pathological hatred of Australia and are prepared to act on it.
– Institute a Royal Commission into the whole sorry history of the last 15 years of asylum seeker policy, without fear of favour. None of our 21st Century Governments, Howard, Rudd, Gillard, Abbott or Turnbull will come out looking good.
Newhouse is not just an immigration lawyer and he marshals support from bright and capable solicitors who do his leg work.
Last year I gave him some advice on a case where coppers bullshitted Department of Community staff into removing a little aboriginal girl from her family before DOCs and the Children Court quickly returned her.
I like people who open my eyes a little.
shellbell,
The media narrative is all bad Government all the time.
The reality might be as simple as the young woman declined to kill her unborn child.
But, that’s not sexy enough for those with their agenda, is it?
The ABC news is still streets ahead of the half arsed effort put in by channel nine and channel seven.
MB
[ The ABC news is still streets ahead of the half arsed effort put in by channel nine and channel seven. ]
Quite likely. I don’t watch those either. Online news is so much more informative. You can see why the “old media” are destined for the rubbish bin of history, and consequently why Morloch had to nobble the NBN at any cost.
Player One
That would have to be one of the biggest benefits of the internet, being able to access news sources from the world over.
While the ABC news is weightier than its commercial rivals that weight is increasingly being deployed in the service of this government.
BSA Bob
[ While the ABC news is weightier than its commercial rivals that weight is increasingly being deployed in the service of this government. ]
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
This seems quite a late termination (pregnant in July) & there might be religious undertones to this as well. I guess we have to put ourselves in the position of a 23 year old, allegedly raped, obviously traumatised, homeless, powerless to make decisions about her own body that our society otherwise offers. All very sad & a pathetic reflection on our governments & the people who support these off shore policies.
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Me thinks they were not really staunch labor supporters. Although could have been mtbw and some of her friends.who had called in ]
Spot on Vic!
You can just see grumpy old MTBW and her cotorie of equally embittered pals ringing the ABC to moan about Shorten Labor. I always thought concern trolling was more a younger person’s game, but MTBW has proved otherwise!
What a sad nasty piece of work she is.
[ While the ABC news is weightier than its commercial rivals that weight is increasingly being deployed in the service of this government. ]
They are sooo relieved from being shouted at by abbott – they will do anything for turnbull.
Since becoming “King and Saint” all they have done is be a State Broadcaster for him.
To an extent understandable, sort of, but its all now becoming *Dear Leader* stuff.
Any questioning or subjective analysis is not in sight and there are obvious issues regarding the young woman returned in indecent haste to Nauru and Kiwi’s with criminal convictions etc.
But airblown away – *I know nothing* accepted on top of apology if interrupted on 730.
ABC = nice dawg – Sit!
Darren Laver@1637
Funny, that’s how I always picture you.
I’ve not no problems with people seeing lots of Grand Mal on the TV. The more they see of him the quick we get this honeymoon over and done with and people can see he’s an over-polished phoney who sounds like a character in a PG Wodehouse novel: “Spot of tennis anyone?”
Moving this obviously distressed, pregnant woman, a rape victim, back to Nauru, on a chartered aircraft is sick, base, repulsive politics.
I am ashamed to be an Australian tonight. Cry, beloved country.
Rossmore@1641
Well some of us are not troubled. See for example:
Greensborough Growler@1630
[
With great respect I am always suspicious of lawyers who have an agenda. Newhouse and Manne may be heroes to some. However, their track record of achievement through traducing others does them no credit.
To me, they invent problems for whatever cause du jour is running.
Apart from being serial losers, they don’t seem to be overly familiar with their clients and seem to be playing to the heart strings of the left rather than the best interests of their clients.
I know people seem to think they are putting pressure on the Government to change things. The reality is they seem to systematically alienate the people that might be able to assist them achieve their goal.
But, that’s just my opinion.]
Correct.
Manne et al cannot see the big picture — lawyers rarely do. They only care about the current case before them, happy to win battles but lose the war.
Manne’s opposition to the Malaysian approach — before even one person had been sent there — was dispicably short-sighted. He effectively gave us the return of Nauru and Manus right at that moment.
If he actually cared about refugees in detention then he is a total failure in terms of public policy.
[“Moving this obviously distressed, pregnant woman, a rape victim, back to Nauru, on a chartered aircraft is sick, base, repulsive politics. “]
She was raped but refuses to put in an official pen-to-paper police report. Why is that?
What is sick is using rape as a bargaining chip to get to Australia.. now that’s sick.
Australia spent hundreds of thousands of DOLLARS bringing her here after she DEMANDED for weeks, night after night to come here… then when she gets here she wants to “think about it” but the lawyers are lined up to try and stop her deportation.
Just how gullible are the left? Honestly? Do you guys ever think? Or is it just about the “feeling” part for your lot?
She had 15 or so weeks to consider her options and the Government has the full support of a majority of Australians who see this for what it was, a disgusting attempt to come to Australia.
Bemused…. GG, like myself is a Catholic. I decided many years ago that religion of any shape was essentially a lost cause.
I have a 26 year old daughter ….. I wonder how anyone in the PB community would feel about their own child going through what that young, raped and now pregnant refugee woman detained in Nauru has had to go thru in recent days ….
Carmichael mine approval a national disgrace, and why neither the Coalition nor Labor are fit to lead.
[http://reneweconomy.com.au/2015/in-australia-both-coalition-and-labor-remain-wedded-to-fossil-fuels-82906]
TBA, u are a sad, sick, human being.
Do u have any love in your heart for anyone?
Rossmore@1645
So you are a recovered Catholic.
What has happened and is happening to that woman is just obscene.
But GG and TBA seem to get off on it.
Is it seriously being suggested that Shorten is for the high jump?
Unless there is some overwhelming reason/evidence emerging, it would be a foolish move.
The media is forever doing Turnbull’s bidding, Labor has little hope of setting the agenda.
And if I see another giggling, gushing, apologising interview by Leigh Sales with Turnbull, there needs to be some sort of disciplinary action with her.
After all, after one of his recent interviews, when still Communications Minister, after her interview with him, she and that other nutter Annabelle went with Turnbull and Lucy for dinner.
How touching.
[“I am ashamed to be an Australian tonight.”]
Said so often by those on the left side of politics as if we are meant to care.
I’m proud to be an Aussie tonight. We had someone who has against all Australian morals has tried to use a rape story to get into the country but failed thanks to the quick actions of Border Force.
I maybe a heartless bastard but at least I’m willing to accept the reality of what has just happened and call it out.