The Coalition’s mildly improving polling trend over the past few weeks has taken a knock after the latest bad result from Newspoll, contributing to a 0.5% two-party shift in Labor’s favour on the BludgerTrack poll aggregate. On the state-level seat projection, the big move this week is a three-seat shift to Labor in Queensland, where the Labor swing had probably been a bit undercooked on recent readings, along with one-seat gains in New South Wales and Western Australia. However, Labor is down a seat in Victoria after a blowout in their favour last week and also down one in Tasmania, resulting in a net gain of three. Newspoll also provided a new set of leadership ratings this week, which have pushed Tony Abbott out to his worst net personal approval rating since the election. Other figures on voting intention were provided this week by Essential Research, ReachTEL and Morgan. Full results as always on the sidebar.
Shellbell
Maybe the judge had a fair idea the way things were going and didn’t need the time.,
I m often impressed at how quickly the wheels of justice turn in countries other than Australia.
The riots in North London in 2011 saw people sentenced to periods of imprisonment within a fortnight.
Here we have been trying to extradite Captain Dragan for 10 years.
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/captain-dragan-asks-for-his-release
[Maybe the judge had a fair idea the way things were going and didn’t need the time.,
I m often impressed at how quickly the wheels of justice turn in countries other than Australia.]
Yes, true. Much swifter in other western countries.
We seem to wait forever even for procedural matters.
Some of these courts need a rocket up them to get moving.
CTar1
Yes.
Arrest for purposes of questioning and no real right of silence are two big ones.
Of course a slow legal process is a famous “pull” factor for boats … though the High Court is pretty quick when Mr Manne wants something though… Pity the everyday Australian battlers who are not worthy of Mr Manne’s speedy services…
Darren laver
And there a few lawyers with a vested interest in spinning things out.
Here in WA long delays in getting to trial are a feature and i can think of plenty of times in the last decade or so when the chief justices have asked for the appointment of an extra judge to deal with the backlog but the pleas often fall on deaf ears in government.
What Is the old saying? Justice delayed is justice denied.
[What Is the old saying? Justice delayed is justice denied]
Bullseye!
Being paid by the hour helps too…! Some shockingly unethical lawyers out there – system utterly in need of reform.
[Barbara Miller @abcbarbm 4m
Judge says Rolf Harris has shown no remorse and only has himself to blame for reputation in ruins]
[It was former Australian Prime Minister, Paul Keating who remarked that when faced with the choice of deciding between a stuff-up and a conspiracy, always choose a stuff-up.]
http://theaimn.com/conspiracy-collusion-or-stuff-up/
[Barbara Miller @abcbarbm 53s
Judge says victims showed considerable courage coming forward in Rolf Harris trial]
[What Is the old saying? Justice delayed is justice denied.]
How long was the Ashby-Slipper thing able to be dragged out? Surely for something like that, a quick legal turnaround is doable.
Shellbell
[Your system means there would be no meaningful deterrence.]
Let’s unpack this. The vast majority of us are not deterred from criminal activity by the prospect of prison. Most of us are deterred by the fact that hurting other people is wrong. Some of us are deterred by the potential for being embarrassed in front of people we respect. A small minority are deterred by the prospect of being apprehended by the police, charged, put through a trial, and doing time in gaol, but the last category have to believe that’s a serious possibility. Fairly obviously, they have to possess the capacity for transformative reasoning, a capacity for weighing their chances of being nabbed and the cost to them of the process.
Not all criminals and certainly not most plebeian criminals have these attributes. Often they are young and suffer poor impulse control and are ignorant. They also don’t differentiate the future very well in temporal terms. You and I might get why a ten year sentence was a worse thing than three gears but for many criminals it’s much of a muchness because they don’t fully process either. Most of the deterrence, if there is any, centres on whether they will be caught, and if so how soon after they have done the crime.
Consider. Everyone knows that if you drink, or take drugs and drive a vehicle or operate machinery you have a seriously increased risk of being injured seriously or killed. Does that stop people from doing it? Yes, but not always and not often enough. Accordingly, the police do RBT and also test for non-prescription drugs so that people will believe detection is more likely. It’s the belief in detection that does most of the deterrence. A residual part is gaol time, but there’s simply no evidence that longer sentences deter more than shorter sentences.
[It should not be the state which compensates victims but the frozen assets of accuseds upon their conviction.]
Assuming there are any assets to freeze,. It mostly has to be the state.
An example of the entitlement factor I mentioned earlier to do whatever TF they like to admiring fans.
[Claire Hannah @Claire_journo 3m
“you groped her bottom, you took advantage of the fact she was awestruck by you” judge to Rolf Harris on 16yo girl #RolfHarris]
shellbell
[Being paid by the hour helps too…! Some shockingly unethical lawyers out there – system utterly in need of reform.]
A well known and reguarded barrister in this ‘field’ could be named but I’ll do as many others have done.
[Peter Watson @PeterWatsonMLA 2m
Wouldn’t have albany accommodation problems if Barnett and grills had delivered on their hotel promises Wapol#]
Love Peter but someone needs to educate him about using twitter.
[An example of the entitlement factor I mentioned earlier to do whatever TF they like to admiring fans.
Claire Hannah @Claire_journo 3m
“you groped her bottom, you took advantage of the fact she was awestruck by you” judge to Rolf Harris on 16yo girl #RolfHarris]
Just vile.
And no-one did a thing.
He could have got away with anything.
Finally he is about to receive some justice.
He can stick that peg leg where the sun don’t shine.
[Barbara Miller @abcbarbm 1m
Judge says he has no doubt Rolf Harris’s crimes against victim resulted in her becoming an alcoholic]
[peterwalker99 @peterwalker99 1m
Judge describes how #RolfHarris sat Lee on lap and fondled her. She fled to loo. He followed her and assaulted again]
Heart wrenching stuff. WTF?
Tony Windsor @TonyHWindsor 1m
Tony Abbotts “unsettled”nation comments very deliberate diversionary dog whistle .The man may not be too bright but knows what is doing here
[Barbara Miller @abcbarbm 3m
Judge says Rolf Harris caused severe psychological harm to his daughter’s childhood friend]
It’s a myth that child abusers strike predominantly at strangers. Those closer to home are more at risk.
“@BBCBreaking: “Only an immediate custodial sentence is appropriate,” judge tells Rolf Harris – sentence imminent http://t.co/8XzIfgdqyO”
“@abcnews: #BREAKING: Rolf Harris sentenced to 5 years 9 months in jail for indecent assault of four girls in the UK between 1968 and 1986
#RolfHarris”
[Jacinta Tynan @jacintatynan 5s
#RolfHarris sentenced to 5 years 9 months prison]
[Rob Oakeshott @RobOakeshott1 5m
#Lateline OK – tonight is the night we should see the Royal Commission into Child Sex Abuse fully funded.Rolf Harris sentencing first story.]
Cue cute tweets about trusting British judges…
[#RolfHarris sentenced to 5 years 9 months prison]
Disappointing, if he isn’t murdered in jail he probably walks out alive.
“@RobOakeshott1: #lateline Good on the Human Rights Commission. Our ‘opting-out’ of dealing with the worlds stateless, refugee community is unsustainable.”
WWP:
He’ll serve at least half that.
Disappointing sentence.
Hopefully he still rots in gaol.
A brazen pervert who destroyed lives.
“@davrosz: Gillian Trigg: “There is a growing sense of executive power that is not subject to constraint by the rule of law.” #lateline”
[Ahron Young @AhronYoung 8m
Rolf will serve half that sentence and then be released for the remainder.]
[WWP:
He’ll serve at least half that.]
Doesn’t seem adequate to me.
Three years is about the halfway point for Rolf Harris.
Given the offence it will be a hard three years
Nick Champion championing Labor on Lateline tonight against Paul Fletcher
[Three years is about the halfway point for Rolf Harris.
Given the offence it will be a hard three years]
Not hard enough, unless he is murdered, if you think for a few moments about his victims.
WWP
I am not for the death penalty. I do agree sentence seems way too light.
[Marcel Verheyden @MarcelVerheyden 8m
@BridgetOFlynn all those girls got life sentences, he got off easy.]
2.5 years for almost 20 years of sexual abuse. Something ain’t right about that.
Rob Oakeshott @RobOakeshott1 3m
#lateline ‘don’t comment on operational matters’ – Jack Nicholson saying ‘you can’t handle the truth’ springs to mind. Australian mushrooms.
[Given the offence it will be a hard three years]
What do you mean when you say it’ll be a “hard” three years?
Rolf Harris is 84 yo. He has lived a long life getting away with being a disgusting creature. The damage done to all the girls he abused cannot be undone.
confessions
The way other prisoners will treat him. Its a crime to other criminals.
Well with on 84 year old going to the slammer, here is another 83 year old who should be behind bars. And he is looking somewhat doddery.
http://t.co/w1Z7ilrIev
Harris will almost certainly find himself in a minimum security prison well away from the people who might like to give child sex offenders a hard time.
It will be hard for him in the sense that he is 84 years old and the accommodation will not be that comfortable. He will have to get used to doing things himself that I daresay for most of his life some one has done for him.
According to this report, Harris’s first stop is likely to be maximum security Wandsworth.
http://www.news.com.au/world/rolf-harris-new-home-is-a-tiny-cell-at-wandsworth-jail-where-celebrities-are-targeted-by-other-inmates/story-fndir2ev-1226973628448
guytaur:
You’ve been watching too many American movies if you think that.
He’ll most likely serve his 2.5-3 years in a minimum detention facility given his advanced age. This sentence is nothing more than highly disappointing.
Harris will have new subject matter for his paintings
Rob Oakeshott @RobOakeshott1 1m
#lateline where’s the red tape in FOFA? C’mon Paul, the banks have had a big win by rolling these reforms back. Consumers coming second.
William:
And this report as well:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rolf-harris-headed-uks-worst-jail-wandsworth-prison-1454813
We’ll see.
A city in Hokkaido, Japan has stopped a nuclear plant being built:
http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/hakodate-makes-legal-bid-to-prevent-nuclear-plant-from-being-built
[WWP
I am not for the death penalty. I do agree sentence seems way too light.]
I don’t actually advocate murder, although i wouldn’t shed too many tears if it happened, so I’m not for a death sentence either. Bad things happen in jail. I had this client … well bad things happen in jail.