Morgan has released its regular fortnightly face-to-face plus SMS poll covering 2955 respondents over the past two weekends. On the primary vote, Labor is down half a point to 34%, the Coalition steady on 38.5%, Palmer United steady on 5% and the Greens up a point to 13% – which, while well short of Nielsen, makes it a third pollster showing the Greens vote at its highest for at least this term, or in this case since July 2012. Labor leads 52-48 on both measures of two-party preferred, compared with 51.5-48.5 on respondent-allocated and 52-48 on previous-election preferences last time. Essential Research will be with us tomorrow.
UPDATE: Essential is with us sooner than I thought, the report having been published on their website. This shows the Coalition down a point to 41%, Labor steady on 37%, the Greens at their highest for the current term with a gain of one point to 11%, and Palmer United also up one to 5%. Labor has recovered the 51-49 lead on two-party preferred it had lost with last week’s shift to 50-50. Also featured are “most important election issues”, showing economic management and health policy have gained in salience since before the election while “political leadership” has declined; a finding that 61% oppose funding cuts to the ABC, with 21% supportive; 45% expecting the government’s motivation to reduce ABC funding would be overall spending reduction rather its dislike of ABC news coverage (45% to 28%); 71% disapproving of raising the pension age with 20% supportive; 58% favouring 65 as the pension age; 64% disapproving of including the value of the family home in asset testing for pension eligibility, with 26% supportive.
Everything
You avoided the question.
How long do you listen to this discussion before deciding?
“where is the empirical evidence to show that increases in CO2 impact temperatures?”
I mean wow… It’s as if Carbon dioxide lasers just don’t work
and I guess all that geological evidence is just wrong too.
Everything
‘The Catholics can beat you…..they talk about being the bastions of truth for two millennia.’
What a breathtakingly stupid analogy.
I think Morrison’s policy regime is starting to come undone. The actions of the courts will be interesting in light of legislation and the UNHCR report
Goodnight
amazingly enough half way through the interview Maurice Newman turns into Kerry Brewster and then back again?
“KERRY BREWSTER: I agree, but then you’ve got scientists, climate scientists now in Norway, in Germany, in Russia, in America, saying we’re now going in for a period of 30 or 40 years of increasingly cool climate conditions”
Night from me…
I’m sad you can’t decide ‘Everything’.
Maybe if you read some of the literature?
Tell you what. You think of the evidence you need to show you that AGW is real, and I will get it to you.
I bet if you think it through and work out what evidence you need, it will be there. There is simply so much available.
imacca: The question is most applicable to the Navy, really – and you’re right, the LHDs _are_ a platform that is basically offensive in nature although, as you say, they are given a figleaf of a disaster-relief role.
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Everything
You avoided the question.
How long do you listen to this discussion before deciding?]
Perhaps because the question makes no sense????
“How long do you listen to this discussion before deciding?”
Can I use that in one of my MCQ exams? I would like to see what responses I would get to that!
Astrobleme@1052
Seriously? Who said that? And where have they been for the past 450,000 years?
Mod lib channeling Catholics….
Given the amount of Anti-JSF noise posted here (despite ALP support) it is clearly the right decision.
Just a couple of salient points:
1. Yes, the F-22 would be nice – but they aren’t for sale.
2. We aren’t going to buy Russian or Chinese kit.
3. The F-35 will operate in an Integrated Joint Air-Surface environment – not by itself.
4. All the Invasion/Defence bollocks being spewed disregards the fact that we operate within the ANZUS alliance.
@CC/1061
I thought we had a budget emergency…?
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“denier” is religious terminology, as was discussed beautifully on QandA by that Marxist chap.]
Yeah, a better term is charlatan. There are others. Snake oil merchants, con-artists, frauds, buffoons, dimwits, shysters, fakes, scoundrels, embezzlers, sophists, double-dealers, crooks, swindlers, cheats, liars, propagandists, thieves, cynics, …to list just some.
victoria,
OK, I listened to that 2GB recording and there is no denial that Rosies ex was mentally ill. Just no mention of that aspect at all, so nothing to contradict previous reporting such as the detailed report by John Silvester.
The way she describes him, his life was spiralling out of control and he was increasingly threatening and violent.
She did make a comment to the effect we would never know what he was thinking as he was dead.
1061
What about the French or European options?
The F-22 looks like the best of its kind and is a class above the F-35. Nonetheless the F-35 was described today by the idiot now serving as Defence Minister, as “peerless”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor
[The aircraft was variously designated F-22 and F/A-22 prior to formally entering service in December 2005 as the F-22A. Despite a protracted development, the United States Air Force considers the F-22 a critical component of their tactical air power, and claims that the aircraft is unmatched by any known or projected fighter. Lockheed Martin claims that the Raptor’s combination of stealth, speed, agility, precision and situational awareness, combined with air-to-air and air-to-ground combat capabilities, makes it the best overall fighter in the world today. Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, former Chief of the Australian Defence Force, said in 2004 that the “F-22 will be the most outstanding fighter plane ever built.”]
…denier is a religious term, which fits with the meme that if you question anything on this topic you are essentially an “infidel” or a “heathen”….its the exact same thing IMO.
Denying some sort of religious edict and denying scientific research are actually the total bloody opposite.
briefly@1063
You omitted “Liberal”.
bemused
Of course, she cant speak for the dead. But she spoke fo what he did and why he did it.
His actions are fairly self explanatory. Dont you think.
She said that his action to kill his son that day in front of her was a premeditated act.
He could have left his partner and son well enough alone, but he chose to kill him insfead. Nothing excuses this behaviour.
bemused@1064
Wow. you must have been listening to a different interview than Victoria and I. Rosie clearly stated that the attack came out of nowhere, could not have been predicted, was carefully timed, planned and obviously premeditated, and was primarily motivated by him losing control over her.
I really don’t know what you’re trying to prove here any longer bemused, but it is clear that this poor boys death had nothing to do with mental illness.
I suspect you simply don’t like having been demonstrated to be so completely wrong … again.
Player one
[I suspect you simply don’t like having been demonstrated to be so completely wrong … again.]
You got it in one!
On that note, nignt all
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Carey Moore
The point of defence is to make it not worth attacking you.]
CM, even if defence relied mostly on deterrence, surely there is a good deal more to deterrence than simply being able to repel an attack.
[2. We aren’t going to buy Russian or Chinese kit.]
Too bad, its far superior to the F-35
[3. The F-35 will operate in an Integrated Joint Air-Surface environment – not by itself.
4. All the Invasion/Defence bollocks being spewed disregards the fact that we operate within the ANZUS alliance.]
Just a moment, could you please delay your incursions…we need to wait on the US defence capability to arrive so we can fly our F-35s which by themselves are big blow flies with parts that randomly fall off.
This would not surprise me, although there is no supporting evidence linked. I often wonder about the effects of injuries from domestic violence on women as they age. Getting punched around can lead to brain damage, maybe dementia, the broken limbs that get arthritic, damaged sight and hearing and theb there is PTSD.
But these men have an excuse, there is always and excuse. She asked for it, she deserved it, he is stressed, or has a mental illness (overlooks the many with mental illness who never hurt anyone)or it is the drinking or, whatever works as an excuse.
[ they are given a figleaf of a disaster-relief role. ]
Damn, you have exposed the evil plan to use them to invade Lower Kalathumpia!!!!
[1068….bemused]
lol
There are insults that even climate deniers don’t deserve…
victoria@1069
He was undoubtedly unstable, volatile and violent.
She also mentioned that he knew that he was not going to see his son again after that day. That is the sort of thing that can cause a person to lose all hope for the future. A mentally ill person in that situation develops a kind of tunnel vision and will only see one solution. His was to join his son in death. Absolutely terrible, but such things happen as the warped thinking of an unsound mind.
Oh, I should also mention, they happen with mothers killing their kids and themselves too, or mothers killing their child. Ever heard of post-natal depression?
New NBN Co stacked board thinks it’s bad for us to be regulated:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/22/nbn_co_to_government_unchain_us/
Player One@1070
You clearly have no understanding of mental illness and assume a mentally ill person is incapable of making a plan and executing it. That is simply not so.
It is just that the plan the make and carry out is the product of a disturbed mind.
The most common such plan is suicide.
Less commonly they will kill someone else and then may follow that with suicide.
briefly@1076
Oh sorry. I overlooked the gentleness of your soul. 😉
[Seymour Hersch the US correspondent who broke the story about the US torture prison at Abu Ghraib in Iraq,now tells of his recent findings re the war in Syria
…The Turkish Govt in league with the US set off a series of events which would give the excuse for an invasion of Syria…The Saudis hated Syrian’s secular regime…The Israelis hated it because it supported Hezzibollah and the US neo-cons wanted to dominate the whole Middle anyway
East(though they failed in Iraq after all)
Hersch looks at the Turkish PM Erdogan and his sinister role,even to the extent of planning an attack on Turkish forces in a false flag operation on the border with Syria
A revealing story
The story from the American Conservative is called”Cooking the Books in Syria”]
Erdogan by his own words shown to be a total low life scum planning to have his own people killed so as to blame Syria for it (second false flag….. at least one chemical attack also I believe arrange by Turkey in Syria…killing civilians…)… all to provide a rational to start an a war and coup on the Syrian govt.
The whole show so corrupt (including the CIA giving arms to Al Qaeda operatives to attack Syrian regeim (and also help murder Americans and allies elsewhere in the world…but what the heck…)).. it simply hard to know how much of the allegations against the Syrian govt are true if at all…so much BS being spread.
And in any case the actions of Israel, Turkey, USA and Saudi Arabia … a darn site more criminal and murderous than anything the Syrian govt could have done. I don’t know how people can say it is fine for USA and friends to stage murder of thousands of civilians in one place to bring on a coup…then protest Russia causing strife when somebody starts politica chaos on its very borders.
I am sure the US would be pissied if Russia stoked anti USA revolution and coup in Mexico, Texas…etcc
bemused@1077
It is you that is unhinged here, bemused. You have no evidence to support your claims that he was mentally ill at all.
None.
Rosie specifically said that he had never been violent, and that she never feared for either herself and her son.
He did this as an act of premeditated revenge, because she defied him. Why do you have such difficulty understanding this?
Men kill their partner’s children to hurt and punish her. There was one case in Australia where a man killed his ex-partner’s children from her first marriage (his step-children) but left her children of whom he was the natural father, alive.
If she leaves or attempts to leave the man will kill the kids and/or pets. Often it is the pets first who are tortured and killed and if that doesn’t work, the kids.
It is just how they are, it is not mental illness, or stress. They are just bastards.
bemused@1079
There you go again. If you first assume he was mentally ill, you can conclude anything you damn well please.
But there is no evidence to support that assumption.
None at all.
And lots of direct eye-witness testimony to the contrary.
[ The F-22 looks like the best of its kind and is a class above the F-35. Nonetheless the F-35 was described today by the idiot now serving as Defence Minister, as “peerless”. ]
There are issues with sustainment and availability in the US F22 fleet. I dont think we would be able to afford to keep them flying if we had them. And, they are out of production with no prospect of a re-start.
They also have VERY limited air to ground capability and its looking like the USAF doesn’t have that much interest in giving them more since they have F35 on the way and is way too sexy for that kind of demeaning stuff anyway. 🙂
In fact, the US has already started moving on FA-XX, which is likely to be the successor to both F22 and F35. Will be interesting if that is an option around the time we are looking at replacing the Super Hornets.
[ 2. We aren’t going to buy Russian or Chinese kit.
Too bad, its far superior to the F-35 ]
Seriously?? I wouldn’t subscribe to the ” Big Bad Sukhoi Wolf will eat us all” kind of stuff found around the internet so much. T50 has a ways to go before its real as well. F35 with kit like the proposed CUDA missile in dozen lots will be no pushover.
Puff, the Magic Dragon.@1083
Seems to be exactly the situation in this sad case.
imacca: Only as part of a multinational joint operation to liberate Lower Kalathumpia from the despotic regime that is oppressing the noble Kalathumpians and threatening global peace and security.
They *are* military ships, you know.
Player One@1082
It was widely reported in the press at the time and never denied. I provided a link to a very thorough investigatory report earlier.
Try googling ‘greg anderson mental illness’.
What drives your persistent denial that he was mentally ill contrary to all the reporting at the time? What is your explanation of such behaviour? Possessed by demons perhaps? Just “bad” or “evil”? What?
[ They *are* military ships, you know. ]
Only barely. For their size they are fitted with surprisingly few things that go bang.
Thomas Paine: http://guests.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/4329/turkeys-syria-policy-why-seymour-hersh-got-it-wrong
This is an interesting research paper on Murder-Suicide in Australia.
http://aic.gov.au/documents/8/F/8/%7B8F8A985A-04D3-4E14-88AF-DDE56BA745D8%7Dti82.pdf
The rough and ready from the conclusions are:
Perpetrators are more likely to be
– Male
– Caucasian
– Be older in age than other types of homicide perpetrators.
– Working
Victims are more likely to be:
– Female
– Working
– Caucasian
The crime:
– most common weapon is a firearm
– occurs between people closely known to each other.
– the longer a couple has been together the higher the risk
– rate of murder-homicide increases as ‘ordinary’ homicide decreases.
– children increase the risk.
– has a low incidence of alcohol use by either perpetrator or victim when the crime occurs.
Make of it what you will.
UK gov borrowing hit target limit:
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27125024
While our gov borrowed to blame for political purposes…
Even Austerity-like cuts in the UK only saved the gov a little bit.
[ It was widely reported in the press at the time and never denied. I provided a link to a very thorough investigatory report earlier.
Try googling ‘greg anderson mental illness’. ]
The infallible “Dr Google”, eh? He’s a psychiatrist as well now?
Actually, I did read quite a few of articles on this subject. Lots of insinuations and allegations – all unsubstantiated. None of them provided any actual evidence.
None.
But there is lots of evidence to the contrary, including the testimony of Rosie Batty, which you seem to simply dismiss. Or perhaps not understand.
I think we all know why you simply can’t accept this, bemused – and it says far more about your attitudes to women and domestic violence than it says about the death of poor Luke Batty.
As kezza pointed out the other night, you still seem to be carrying some serious baggage around to do with women asserting authority. If I were you, I’d try and resolve your issues before its too late.
But I feel I have done enough to try and help you tonight. We can take it up again tomorrow, if you like.
Goodnight all.
[ Well, if you look at the – if you go back in history, and you look at when the sun has been active and when the sun has been inactive, will you find the climate on earth responds accordingly]
Maybe we can ship him to a system with an “inactive” star
I’m sure it would be more than enough “evidence”.
[1080….bemused]
I’m trying to improve…:)
William, how is the next bludgertrack progressing?
Like a volcano waiting to erupt across the Australian body politic.
Anderson may or may not have committed that heinous crime because of is mental illness, but even if he did, he is just one man with one crime.
The seeds of the idea that women and their children are the property of men and therefore live only on the goodwill of the man who owns them goes back thousands of years. In Ancient Rome, I understand the family Patriarch had total control over his wife and children and could kill them legally, any time he chose.
This idea that feeds into the reality women live today, that they and their children may die at anytime by the hand of the man who lives with them, is the basis of the actions of mentally ill men who kill, in my opinion. The self is not an organism that lives outside its social setting. Our social setting enables family violence and family murder.
In saying that, we must remember that the vast number of mentally ill men harm no-one and the vast number of family violence perpetrators have no mental illness. Occasionally the two states will intersect but this is not the basis for murder-suicide.
I find the blaming of that boy’s horrific murder on the father’s mental illness to be a hasty and pathetic excuse. Just because Anderson may have had a mental illness does not mean that illness created the murder. There is an even chance he would have done the same if he had no mental illness, when faced with his wife’s separation.
I would think, although I may be wrong, that people who take their children’s lives ‘so they could be together’ or ‘to make sure the children were not left behind alone’ i.e. to spare the kids the harm of life, would do so less violent ways than the one used by Luke Batty. I also think, without evidence to back up the opinion as I am no expert, that the act chosen would not leave the child disfigured.
I suspect that Anderson decided to punish his ex-partner by killing their child painfully and horrifically in front of her, and like a coward, force another person to wear the trauma of killing him.
A mentally ill person could plan and carry this out, but the crime says what Anderson was; a violent murderer, a failure as a father and a human being; it does not say it was the product of his possible illness.
In my humble opinion.