Essential Research has the Coalition’s lead up slightly on a weak showing last week, from 51-49 to 52-48, with primary votes of 43% for the Coalition (steady), 36% for Labor (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). Findings of further questions:
• “Direct action” is favoured over carbon pricing 35-31, reversing a 39-29 lead for carbon pricing in May. Support for carbon pricing is down from 43% to 39% with opposition up to 43% to 47%.
• Support for the government’s decision to cease issuing statements when asylum boats arrive is at 39% – surprisingly high, to my mind – with opposition at 48%.
• The re-establishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission is supported by 29% and opposed by 22%, with the rest down for either no view or don’t know.
• There are also questions on manufacturing which suggest respondents to be broadly supportive of protectionism.
Meanwhile, buttons have been pressed today for Senate contests in Victoria, South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory, which you can read about in the Senate counting thread a few posts below.
Still no bounce for the new guvmint.
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Not sure what to make of Essential really given that its final poll under Rudd was 52-48 and given that it displayed a perverse pattern relative to other pollsters.
When I fire up my aggregate again I will continue only using the most recent Essential. For Morgan I think their performance in the campaign was acceptable and I will probably use their two most recent at any time. (The issue of whether to use Morgan’s respondent-allocated prefs, their last-election prefs or a mix of the two is not as straightforward as it usually is but I’ll be using last-election until the current count is done.)
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[Still no bounce for the new guvmint]
no…this is the bounce
The change in attitude over carbon pricing & direct action is strange.
Speaking of pollsters’ election performances, I don’t think Newspoll’s final poll has been given its due: taking rounding into account, it was spot on in every respect. On the national primary vote at least, it was more accurate than BludgerTrack.
Kinkajou
Dead cat then.
I notice Clive Palmer has more than doubled his lead in Fairfax this morning – he now leads by 7.
yes mike most new gov, zoom to about 10 in front from my memory and have been watching these things for some years
and really does depend who answers the computerized questions for ess, mine arrived in the inbox and I couldn’t be bothered so I deleted it
so how many people are so fed up with polls
in fact I don’t think I will bother with in I directed it to spam
It’s no wonder there is no bounce. Abbott is one of the most divisive figures ever to rise to power in Australia. There is no reason to suppose that those who voted against him at the election would have changed their minds about him since. If anything, he has only further accentuated the divide in the community. For this, he will come to be widely reviled and – it can’t come soon enough – then ejected from office.
Andrew wilkie has been sending them our for 2 years now
I unsubscribed from him some time ago
so whats he say these days,,
he has no sway with any one now , so what on earth he thinks he can do for the state now is beyond me in stead these
types of issues he should of been looking after the state and regarding the freight when he had a minority gov, to talk to instead poker machines, how he got back in is beyond me as
well.
[ I notice Clive Palmer has more than doubled his lead in Fairfax this morning – he now leads by 7.]
It’s a landslide!
Whats the difference between turning back the boats and dropping back the boaties??
Seems like the second option is best… means they go back to Indonesia… minus a boat to try again
[Still no bounce for the new guvmint.]
Dillard was on 50% TPP in the polls post election.
That means 50% of the country wanted her gone on her very first day 🙂 heh
Least Abbott has the support of the majority of Aussies 🙂
[Whats the difference between turning back the boats and dropping back the boaties??]
Let me guess – Scoot will tell us next week?
“Speaking of pollsters’ election performances, I don’t think Newspoll’s final poll has been given its due: taking rounding into account, it was spot on in every respect. On the national primary vote at least, it was more accurate than BludgerTrack.”
Perhaps tainted by the partisan rag in which it is published.
well now having read Andrew release I totally agree with
oh just told me what abbott said
and he we should not of stopped exports because of TV footage
well fancy that
tv footage meant everything to him around places dressed like a work men didn’t mind tv footage then did he
the tv footage I saw was so bad I could not look at to look away turned me of meat for life
so have they now changed the way they do things
so which place of animal slaughter did abbott visit.
doubt he cares about cattle suffering.
may be we can ask Andrew to do a silent vigil
we need something, instead of siting around on a computer moaning
[Dead cat then.]
More splatter than that
Very ripe dead cat
…….and here’s shorny
Business is pumpin?
What on earth is going on with the ALP in SA when they cannot even get 2 quotas (28.57%) in the Senate poll?
Had Don Farrell not swapped with Penny Wong, she would have been gone.
[ Whats the difference between turning back the boats and dropping back the boaties??
Seems like the second option is best… means they go back to Indonesia… minus a boat to try again]
Or they drown at sea. That way they never try again – ever. Which should gladden your heart.
I think the invisible opposition to the invisible government is working a treat.
No distractions from how bad these fools are
Give them nothing
Princesses will be getting tired of the taste of what they’re sucking up.
It was rancid to begin with
[Had Don Farrell not swapped with Penny Wong, she would have been gone]
maybe farrell was the problem
which one was he?
[The US government shut down at midnight, after House Republicans refused to budge on their effort to link the passage of the 2014 federal budget to a delay in the implementation of health care reform. When they wake up this morning, 800,000 workers — about 40 percent of the government’s civilian work force — will be temporarily out of a job, while 1 million federal employees will be asked to work without pay.
Attempts at last-minute dealmaking in the House and the Senate failed to produce a compromise.]
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/1/4789506/us-government-shuts-down-after-house-fails-to-pass-funding-bill
Taylor Walker is a very similar player to Buddy and it didn’t work out well having him and Tippett together at the Crows.
[Whats the difference between turning back the boats and dropping back the boaties??]
airfares, petrol and frequent flyer points?
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After Abbott’s dig at #4corners in Jakarta speech don’t think he’ll front #qanda any time soon. Live cattle trade show was Jones’ wife’s.
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Sean Tisme@15
Dimwit!
The only ones handed over to Indonesian authorities are those rescued in Indonesian territorial waters.
That excludes any rescued or intercepted outside of Indonesian territorial waters.
[What on earth is going on with the ALP in SA when they cannot even get 2 quotas (28.57%) in the Senate poll?]
Nick Xenophon getting a quarter of the vote doesn’t leave much to spare.
Seems Abbott left the meeting with SBY content in the fact that bi-lateral relations were the go.
Doesn’t this mean Indonesia will have input on Australian boats policy or is he makin’ shit up?
Gillard must have spent a lot of her time as PM as a very angry person if she felt “murderous outrage” at the sexism directed to her on the Internet.
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Whats the difference between turning back the boats and dropping back the boaties??
Seems like the second option is best… means they go back to Indonesia… minus a boat to try again
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This is being under the terms of agreement in a MOU signed with the Labor Govt last year.
Good to see Abbott implementing the work done by Labor
Classic
[A MAN created a fake 60km/h speed limit sign and then photographed it to use as evidence in court to avoid a speeding fine, a court has heard.
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http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/09/30/editorial-aborting-abbott-s-plan.html
As Indonesia’s leader for nine years, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono knows he should give enough space to his guest — Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott — so that the latter can claim to the Australian people that the result of a bilateral summit between the two countries on Monday proves his tough asylum seeker policy has been endorsed by Indonesia.
The President will not humiliate his guest by telling him to “abort” or soften his position. Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa has warned his new Australian counterpart Julie Bishop against taking unilateral measures, including buying Indonesian boats and paying Indonesian villagers to gather intelligence for Australia on the movements of asylum boats.
The President, who has dealt with the boat people issue with Australia’s Conservative and Labor governments, fully realizes the sensitive nature of the illegal migrant issue for the new prime minister. But he also knows too well that “giving too much” to the new leader will only spark protests from conservative and nationalist politicians as well as some mainstream media.
This means the President will tend to use his favorite “play it safe” tactic, as domestically he will not gain much from the summit. His guest needs him much more than he needs Abbott
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THERE Ii quite a lot more to read
[Prime Minister David Cameron goes into his party conference this weekend facing significant challenges, more constrained than any other Conservative prime minister in memory. He is under fire from both the center and the right, but he needs to appeal to both as he tries to gather momentum heading into the next elections in 2015.
In the center is his coalition partner, the Liberal Democrats, while on the right is the U.K. Independence Party, or UKIP (pronounced YOO-kip), which is attracting populist support with its anti-European Union, anti-immigration message.
While UKIP is at best expected to win only a handful of seats in Britain’s first-past-the-post electoral system, it could still drain crucial votes from the Conservatives in marginal constituencies, a circumstance that would add to Mr. Cameron’s problems.
With his Conservatives seen as lagging the opposition Labour Party in popular opinion, Mr. Cameron is already expected to have a hard time winning a majority in elections expected in May 2015. And he faces a right-wing uprising among Conservative legislators who see him as a weak leader, too soft on issues like gay marriage and immigration, and blame him for failing to win an outright majority in 2010.]
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/28/world/europe/british-leader-is-under-attack-from-right-and-center.html?src=rechp
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Did he not realise that they can gaol people for not paying fines and so he did not need to commit perjury to go to gaol?
William Bowe@30
So the fact that one man can get nearly 2 quotas in his own right excuses the SA Branch of the ALP for their failure to get 2 quotas?
Not in my book. They need to take a long hard look at themselves.
[Mr Abbott said the policy was to establish some money that could be used by Indonesian officials working with their Australian counterparts to work against people-smugglers.]
LoL! Given that corruption is acknowledged as a major problem in Indonesia, he now wants to shovel money at official?? slush Funds anyone?? Must have some people there asking why :monkey: or Mesma didn’t put that position from the start and avoid all the who-ha that has come of their clumsy handling of it.
sounds like a bulls$t, oh my god SNAFU we have to say something to save face……..FFS dont write it down, kind of moment.
imacca
Abbott’s trip to Indonesia sas a huge success for Indonesia. 🙂
Was
As I understand it the mildly entertaining thing (or sad thing depending on your viewpoint) is if the ALP had preferenced X’s running mate above Family First, there would have been two X Senators and only 1 ALP Senator.
But we got 1 X, 1 FF and 1 ALP. Blech.
Diogenes
“Gillard must have spent a lot of her time as PM as a very angry person if she felt “murderous outrage” at the sexism directed to her on the Internet.”
They must teach you some strang things in Vet school.
Emotions in the main are transient.
That one experiences a particular emotion at a particular point in time doesn’t condemncthem from permanently feeling that emotion.
Adjusted people move on.
Re: David Cameron’s woes:
And some say longer terms and/or fixed terms are the answer to the “constant electioneering” problem.
Dio
Taylor Walker is a similar player to Franklin?
Taylor Walker has kicked around 600 goals for the Crows?
I think bemused the ALP has had its 3rd Senate seat taken by the Greens in most States that is what is happening.
Interesting trend with large ramifications for factional balance in most states. You can bet in 2016 the Right wont be gifting first spot on the ticket for all the tea in China.
psyclaw
Gillard didn’t seem to move on. She struck me as always angry and downtrodden and acted like a victim.
BW
Taylor is on the way up. Buddy is on the way down.
And he’s a choker. 🙂
So, Australia stands to be one of the G20 nations worst affected by climate change. Second only to China.
Just to dumb that down for some people on these threads: that means we have a clear and present *national* interest in effective international action to reduce CO2 emissions.
What are we doing about that?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/climate-change-study-australia-suffers
Dio
The ‘murderous rage’ comment was, IMHO, a jape and not a statement of fact. It was intended to, and did, draw a roar of laughter from a sympathetic audience.