Newspoll and Nielsen: 54-46; Morgan: 53.5-46.5

Three more big-sample polls for those of you still wondering what the next three years might have in store. Alternatively, you could just wait a couple of hours.

The last of the major polls go as follows:

• A Newspoll survey conducted on Wednesday and Thursday from over 2500 respondents has Labor on 33%, the Coalition on 46% and the Greens on 9%, for a commanding Coalition lead of 54-46 on two-party preferred. Full breakdowns here.

• Nielsen concurs with Newspoll on both major parties’ primary votes in its poll of 1431 respondents conducted on Wednesday and Thursday, but has the Greens two points higher at 11%. Both The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald have exasperatingly declined to provide breakdowns, but from what I can gather from the printed copy, the poll has the Coalition ahead 56-44 in New South Wales and behind 51-49 in Victoria, while in Queensland Labor’s primary vote is on just 27% (under two Senate quotas, for those of you with an eye on that kind of thing).

• Morgan has a poll of 4937 respondents conducted by SMS, online and live interview phone polling which has Labor at just 31.5%, with the Coalition on 44%, the Greens on 10.5% and the Palmer United Party on 6.5%. This pans out to 53.5-46.5 on respondent-allocated preferences, but to 54.5-45.5 on the previous election preferences method used by Nielsen and Newspoll.

BludgerTrack has been updated with all of the above, and it continues to offer a rosier assessment for Labor than the betting markets in particular would suggest (though note that I’ve knocked on the head my idea of revising the preference model to grant Labor a bigger share of the Palmer United Party vote in Queensland, which has made two seats’ difference). As I’ve noted a number of times, this is mostly down to the consistent tendency of electorate-level polling to produce worse results for Labor than that national and statewide polling that are the bread and butter of BludgerTrack. To illustrate this point, and also for your general convenience, I offer below a complete listing to all such polls published during the campaign. Averages are also provided for the swings in each state, and by each pollster. What this suggests is that the automated phone polling by Galaxy, which has generally produced highly plausible results, has not been too far out of line with national polling, and it has generally offered highly plausible results. The live interview phone polling of Newspoll looks to have performed similarly, but that’s because its sample includes the unusual cases of New England and Lyne. Beyond that three automated phone pollsters who are relatively new to the game, and whose consistent findings of huge Coalition swings should accordingly be treated with caution.

Key: NP=Newspoll, RT=ReachTEL, Gal.=Galaxy, Lon.=Lonergan, JWS=JWS Research.

NEW SOUTH WALES
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Dobell/RobertsonNP	13/8	505	35	50	8	46	-7
Lindsay		Lon.	14/8	1038	32	60	3	36	-15
Lyne		NP	14/8	504	26	51	7	41	+3
New England	NP	14/8	504	24	53	5	34	+1
Kingsford Smith	RT	15/8	610	38	47	10	48	-7
McMahon		RT	15/8	631	45	50	2	47	-11
Blaxland	RT	15/8	636	50	47	3	52	-10
Bennelong	RT	15/8	631	28	64	8	35	-12
Macquarie	JWS	15/8	710	35	51	8	45	-4
Lindsay		JWS	15/8	578	35	57	3	39	-12
Greenway	JWS	15/8	570	44	46	1	51	0
Banks		JWS	15/8	542	43	50	4	47	-4
Werriwa		Gal.	20/8	548	41	48	5	48	-9
Reid		Gal.	20/8	557	38	50	9	47	-6
Parramatta	Gal.	20/8	561	44	45	4	50	-4
Lindsay		Gal.	20/8	566	41	50	3	46	-5
Greenway	Gal.	20/8	585	45	46	3	49	-2
Barton		Gal.	20/8	551	44	44	9	52	-5
Banks		Gal.	20/8	557	40	47	6	48	-3
Barton		Gal.	20/8	575	44	44	9	52	-5
Banks		Gal.	20/8	575	40	47	6	48	-3
K-S/Page/E-M	NP	26/8	601	37	47	11	48	-7
ALP marginals*	NP	26/8	800	34	52	7	43	-9
McMahon		JWS	28/8	482	44	52	3	47	-11

Average swing								-6.1

* Parramatta/Reid/Banks/Lindsay/Greenway.								

VICTORIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Deakin		RT	15/8	619	36	50	13	47	-4
Corangamite	RT	15/8	633	36	54	10	44	-6
Melbourne	RT	15/8	860	35	24	35
Indi		RT	15/8	611	18	47	6
Corangamite	JWS	15/8	587	36	48	10	47	-3
Aston		JWS	15/8	577	29	59	8	37	-12
La Trobe	Gal.	20/8	575	36	45	12	49	-3
Corangamite	Gal.	20/8	575	35	52	9	44	-6
Chisholm	Gal.	20/8	575	46	45	7	48	-8
ALP marginals*	NP	28/8	800	34	47	13	47	-4
McEwen		JWS	28/8	540	35	47	6	45	-14
Bendigo		JWS	28/8	588	40	40	9	51	-9

Average swing								-6.9

* La Trobe/Deakin/Corangamite								

QUEENSLAND
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Griffith	RT	05/8	702	48	43	8	46	-12
Forde		RT	08/8	725	40	48	4	46	-2
Forde		Lon.	15/8	1160	34	56	4	40	-8
Forde		JWS	15/8	568	33	54	4	40	-8
Brisbane	JWS	15/8	607	36	50	9	46	-3
LNP marginals*	NP	20/8	1382	32	54	5	40	-8
Forde		NP	20/8	502	38	48	5	46	-2
Griffith	Lon.	21/8	958	38	47	11	48	-10
Griffith	NP	22/8	500	37	48	12	48	-10
Lilley		JWS	28/8	757	40	48	5	46	-7
Griffith	JWS	28/8	551	48	40	7	57	-1
Blair		Gal.	29/8	604	39	40	8	50	-4
Dawson		Gal.	29/8	550	34	48	4	43	-5
Griffith	Gal.	29/8	655	41	37	12	54	-4
Herbert		Gal.	29/8	589	36	47	6	45	-3
ALP marginals**	NP	30/8	800	38	42	8	49	-4

Average swing								-5.9

* Brisbane/Forde/Longman/Herbert/Dawson/Bonner/Flynn/Fisher
** Moreton/Petrie/Lilley/Capricornia/Blair/Rankin/Oxley								

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Brand		Gal.	29/8	660	42	42	10	52	-1
Hasluck		Gal.	29/8	553	34	46	10	45	-4
Perth		Gal.	29/8	550	47	35	13	58	+2

Average swing								-1.2								

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Hindmarsh	Gal.	22/8	586	41	44	10	50	-6
Wakefield	Gal.	26/8	575	44	35	7	55	-6
Adelaide	Gal.	29/8	571	40	39	12	54	-4

Average swing								-5.0

TASMANIA
				N	ALP	L-NP	GRN	2PP	SWING
Bass		RT	22/8	541	30	52	8	42	-15
Braddon		RT	22/8	588	36	51	4	43	-14
Denison		RT	22/8	563	19	24	11	
Franklin	RT	22/8	544	30	39	16	51	-10
Lyons		RT	22/8	549	30	47	11	44	-18
Bass		RT	03/9	659	28	54	10	41	-16

Average swing								-14.7

AVERAGE SWING BY POLLSTER
				N	 	 	 	 	SWING
Galaxy				22					-4.3
Newspoll			10					-4.7
JWS Research			13					-6.8
ReachTEL			16					-8.6
Lonergan			3					-11.3

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. [The Greens policy is a high immigration policy.]

    I support a high immigration policy. Immigration = growth, prosperity and social health. I also support a high refugee intake. What I oppose, and what most Australians oppose, is a criminal racket subverting our immigration and refugee programs by bringing thousands of unauthorised, undocumented people to Australia against the stated wishes of the Australian government. Even if every one of them is a genuine refugee (which is not the case), no sovereign state can accept being FORCED to accept refugees it has not agreed to take.

    Still, it’s too late to have this argument now. Labor has been comprehensively outflanked on this issue, and those in the party who have allowed this to happen will have to accept a large part of the blame for today’s outcome.

  2. Tweet of the day from Andrew Leigh. Expecting he makes it onto the front bench after today.

    [@ALeighMP: Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more.]

  3. My prediction for the first “non-care” funding promise to be ditched –

    The 1.5 billion dollars Abbott promised Denis Napthine for his East-West Toll Tunnel. After the Federal Libs actually look closely at the NON-business case for this they will run a mile.

    Premier Napthalene may then have to “mothball” it – tunnel -builders have had their fingers badly burnt twice in Brisbane recently and are a bit wary of duds now.

  4. 41m
    If Abbott wins,the poor,the disadvantaged,the disabled will be the ones to suffer the most remember them when you fill out the ballot paper.

    Retweeted by Helena Karter

  5. In the queue at Willoughby Girls High school (North Sydney). A grand old school about to celebrate 150 years.

    Labor obtained 9% of the primary vote in the state seat here in 2011.

    The chance of swinging a voter as they come onto the school grounds or once inside is diminished because there is no one here and no posters etc. Greens might come second.

  6. psephos: yes, of course it’s the loss of mining sector and other blue collar voters that has done the most damage to Labor this time. But I think those sectors have been changing slowly for a long time and those voters will be forever lost to Labor while it looks and feels like a creaky old trade union party.

    It has dawned on me lately that Abbott has proved that a political party can now abandon the centre ground and still triumph. Despite how most people on PB see him, Howard was basically a centrist. Abbott is not. While his message within his own head is very confused – as we will soon see – he has, thanks largely to the excellent work of Loughnane and Credlin – projected a very clear message to the voters, especially the ageing baby boomers: everything’s going to be just dandy with the Budget, climate change is crap, if you don’t feel like you’ve got enough money now I’ll get you some more, we’ll keep those scary Moslems away (except, I forgot to mention, those ones of 457 visas who’ll take your kids’ jobs), etc, etc.

    A good Labor message for the future, one that would incorporate some of what the Greens are on about (the good stuff, not the loony left stuff) could be summed up in the phrase “Australians are better than that”. This is a Labor which would care about the environment, solve the problem of boat people without exploiting them for votes, invests in education and the future, stops pandering to rooms full of union delegates and starts reaching out again to aspirational voters, etc, etc.

    If Shorten has any sense, the first thing he should do is try to bring Latham into thr fold into some sort of behind-the-scenes advisory role. The man is an uncouth boor, but he has a better grasp of the way Labor needs to go that the entire current and former staff of Hawker-Britton put together.

    Labor needs to stop listening to focus groups and shock jocks and start forging its own message. Let the Murdoch press and their cronies attack all they like: just develop a coherent, positive narrative and stick to it. And this should be a slightly more centre left message: right now, brand differentiation is essential. If they go with a small target strategy waiting for Tony to blow up, they might be waiting a long while. The guy is very disciplined: there must be something in those celices and hair shirts!!

  7. THIS IS ALL TWITTER NOT ME

    Not Campbell Newman ‏@Can_do_Campbell 29m
    I am going to avoid twitter today but I would like to leave you with this thought, if we wake up with Abbott as pm tomorrow, you were warned

  8. JaneAustinALP 1h
    Across the globe in London, my brother Robert takes up the Labor fight! #politas #auspol #standupforlabor pic.twitter.com/CMVhCQe7pa

  9. Angela Wilson ‏@ange_wilson 1h
    Thinking of all our fab ALP booth captains setting up this morning! Ahoy me hearties! Great work guys x

    SPOT THE DIFFERENC IN THE HUMINITY OF

    n one pulling a knife on any one from out side

  10. this was with mobile phones the new Guardian poll is showing 50.8 LNP to 49.2 ALP. plse let it be

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    this is the poll theY don’t want u to know about

    VOTE VOTE

  11. meher baba

    Taking Abbott’s recent behaviour (reversing so many vows) as a guide, he may just curl up into a ball and suck his thumb, hoping to hang on to PMship for as long as possible by not making waves. Keating thinks Hockey is another slow-reacting sook when it comes to the big decisions.

  12. ‘Tweet of the day from Andrew Leigh. Expecting he makes it onto the front bench after today.’

    Let’s hope Shorten makes him shadow treasurer.

  13. Felicity Ogilvie ‏@FelicityOgilvie 22m
    .@Tony_Burke has moved all but a few of the unaccompanied children detained @ Pontville into community detention

  14. Ogilvie ‏@FelicityOgilvie 22m
    .@Tony_Burke has moved all but a few of the unaccompanied children detained @ Pontville into community detention

    Retweeted by Tony Burke

  15. so what do libs thinks

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    Scott Morrison ‏@ScottMorrisonMP 8m
    They’re voting at the modern birthplace of Australia @ Kurnell, 80 deep as booth opened. A great place to celebrate our democracy #theshire

  16. mango ‏@ByronBayMango 3m
    I’m Voting Labor for #BetterSchools
    All kids deserve a good education,
    Not just those with parents that can afford to buy one.
    #AUSpol

    Retweeted by Marcus John Knight

  17. [quote]19.this was with mobile phones the new Guardian poll is showing 50.8 LNP to 49.2 ALP. plse let it be

    this is the poll theY don’t want u to know about[/quote]

    We all know about it.

  18. AshGhebranious ‏@AshGhebranious 4m
    Ask Andrew Robb if we should trust a party that releases two major social policies, child care and aged, late at night @BreakfastNews

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    slash an get rid staff ratios all on line
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  19. oops sorry, didn’t think that posted from my phone

    As to Psephos – I disagree. You don’t win a debate on an issue, even one as “big” as asylum seekers by throwing in the towel. Labor should’ve stood up for what they believed and argued for it imo

    There was probably 15-20 questions asked at the Rooty Hill Forum, how many on boats? NONE – Murdoch cared about boats, 2GB/2UE cared about boats. People might say they cared about boats as issue but when it comes to voting most care more about themselves

    Leadership is about bringing the people to your position not buckling at the knees and caving in

    Jan 2014 – “where’s my schoolkids bonus”

  20. Can someone put my say out of its misery.
    I love the way that “educated” why typed, my say- thus proving to be a closet Lib supporter (and your lack of education).

    Wonder what mad bob and frank calamari are up to this morning 😀

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  22. Rosemour, it won’t be as bad as 1966. And let’s see how the preferences flow I’m not convinced the polling has got them right.

  23. If Labor keeps underestimating Tony Abbott the way meher baba and Psephos do then Labor will go out of business altogether in 2016 when he takes the rest of our seats.

  24. my say@122. My posts might be long, but at least they aren’t full of incoherent shouting. And what you said about wishing Rummel’s child to be born with a disability was beneath contempt.

    When I first came to PB, I formed the impression that you were a nice old granny. Sorry, my mistake.

  25. [Psephos
    ……And why are they doing that? Partly economic/aspirational issues. Partly corruption in NSW state Labor. But mainly I’m afraid because of Labor’s massive policy failure on border protection.]

    You may not be in the my say or Meguire Bob league, but this post is classic denial, IMO.

    The ALP went hard on the policy you wanted, it boasted about it up hill and down dale, it got a surge in the polling on the question “who do you support on boats?”….everything you would have hoped for (given your views had nothing to do with the issue or the people affected, just the voting impact)…..and?

    What you are missing is the broader issue here that the ALP has lost its soul. It is the brand issue problem, and it started with KB back in the early 2000s.

    The ALP wins when it has a strong focus on a fair go and when you sell out you get thrown out. However, don’t let me stop the NSW “Always” Right view from taking hold. You keep telling em in the ALP inner circles how right you were all along and they just need to keep listening to you as it works a treat for me and prolonged Liberal government….Abbott wont be there that long, I can wait! :devil:

  26. , one in every eight to ten Australians are yet to make up their minds about who to vote for, making a mockery of 50-50 or 52-48 or whatever. There is a veneer of complacency in the assurances that Abbott will become Prime Minister no matter what, and underneath it is a shrillness that underlines a failure of persuasion; a government that has supposedly failed so comprehensively should be made of less stern stuff. It should not be so hard to knock over as it is

    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/for-crying-out-loud.html?spref=tw

    read more

    don’t be mocked when u mention the polls above they are as real as any other ?????????

    READ MY POST ABOUT THE GUARDIAN POLL WELL PUT TOGETHER ON THE GUARDIAN NEWS SITE ONLY 2 POINT APART

  27. Bar Bar @138: I’m sorry that my posts are long, but don’t try to comment on them if you don’t read them. How have I underestimated Tony Abbott in any of my posts this morning? It’s the Labor leadership who have consistently and fatally underestimated him, as Bob Hawke commented this morning.

    That said, I don’t expect Abbott to perform as well as PM as he did as LOTO. Like Rudd, he is a disciplined performer, but not a discplined thinker. A good PM needs to be both.

  28. Mod Lib, you have tried all year to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds. But now you are about to be in the position of being held accountable for the actions of an Abbott government, none of whose policies, by your own account, you agree with. I for one will enjoy that very much.

  29. Apparently Tony Abbot doesn’t always mean what he says.

    Laurie Oakes thinks that’s a problem.

    The ALP are ok with it.

    That’s why they never mentioned it.

    Genius.

    Pure gold genius.

    Today will be a great day; Rudd and Hawker gone finally from the corridors of ALP central.

    And as Oakes says. it’ll end in tears for Tony. Two things to look forward to.

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