Breaking news: Newspoll has Labor’s lead down from 56-44 to 55-45. Since you all know about it by now, a link will suffice (although I will observe that Malcolm Turnbull’s ratings seem to have bottomed out). Here’s a first: Essential Research has the same result as Newspoll, with Labor’s lead plunging from 59-41 to 55-45. Further questions focus on the parties’ capacity to handle various issues, emissions trading schemes and climate change, and perceptions of politicians’ honesty (better than you might think).
Sky Business says we might avoid going into a “technical recession” because of the better than expected building approvals and trade deficit
Wouldn’t QT be fun tomorrow if this is true 😉 Oh poor Malcolm and his doom and gloom would be blown out of the water.
[Gary, hard working people are valued by bosses.]
Absolutely and you would be even more valued if you were to give up the lunctime you don’t care about.
LOL! G.P. admits he receives a subsidy for his education, so now he gets all shirty.
It’s OK G.P., I think it is OK that you don’t have to build your own library or lecture theatres. They are a PUBLIC GOOD, even though you have trouble with that concept.
[Sky Business says we might avoid going into a “technical recession” because of the better than expected building approvals and trade deficit]
Even with profits falling off a cliff? Even if it is ZERO, that would be hilarious.
# 46 There was, by any objective measure, nothing ‘idiotic’ in my observation @ 43.
No 55
David, ShowsOn is incapable of objectivity.
For the information of members and their guests:
I’ve posted a long term polling comparison of the first eighteen months of the Rudd Government 2007/09 and the first Howard Government 1996/7.
http://www.ozforums.com.au/viewtopic.php?id=5639
No 53
What subsidy is that? The buildings existed before I came to university. If you meant that every paying student should build their own library and lecture theatre, there wouldn’t be a square metre of land area left in Australia.
[David, ShowsOn is incapable of objectivity.]
Do you have any objective evidence for this subjective assertion?
No 59
Your litany of pro-Labor posts.
[Your litany of pro-Labor posts.]
This doesn’t objectively prove anything.
Finally the stupid petrol subsidy is going. It was a silly idea in the first place. But the privatisations are stupid. It is case of low interest debt being paid off by selling higher yield assets.
No 61
It does prove your imbecility, however.
[It does prove your imbecility, however.]
WOW! Feel better now G.P.!? You should go back to your tax payer subsidised library and read some tax payer subsidised books on epistemology.
MD of Holden says the govt can claim credit for Holden being the shining light of GMH worldwide and an example to the rest of the world of how things should be done.
He dosen’t agree with Sol that we are backward either 🙂
But they didn’t sprout from the earth like mushrooms, whether it was before you came to the university or not. They were paid for, whether they were paid for before you came to the university or not, and that payment functions as a subsidy for your education.
[They were paid for, whether they were paid for before you came to the university or not, and that payment functions as a subsidy for your education.]
IMPOSSIBLE! G.P. opposed tax payer subsidies, there is NO WAY he would accept his education being subsidised by tax payers in any way shape or form.
I know we need a right winger or two for “balance”, but the token right winger we’ve got working the blog today is just degrading Poll Bludger with his miserable Liberal gnarlishness. The previous page should have heavy deletions and time out for the protagonist.
Where’s Glen, he’s one intelligent right winger(at least some of the time)?
No 68
Cuppa, your posts have always been unmitigated obscenities but I don’t advocate for their deletion.
I posted yesterday:
[opening the batting. expect surprises in this week Newspoll and National Acct No.]
Surprise No: 1, Labor numbers held very firm in the latest Newspoll, despite full frontal assault by the Oppos. on the issues of debts, PM and Fitzy.
[Australia may avoid recession: economists, June 02, 2009
Article from: Australian Associated Press
AUSTRALIA may have avoided a technical recession after better-than-expected national balance of payment figures today. Australian Bureau of Statistics data showed the nation recorded a seasonally adjusted current account deficit of $4.61 billion in the March quarter, which was narrower from a revised deficit of $6.36 billion in the December quarter. The median market forecast was for a deficit of $5.43 billion in the March quarter. ]
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25574645-643,00.html
Surprise No: 2 – The consensus of the pundits was a -0.2% contraction. So now the pundits are not so sure. ABC News was reporting that the pundits are busily re-crunching the numbers.
If the number comes in either 0% or +0.1%, then Turnbull and the Oppos. are dead meat many times over. Game, set and match.
Bring in on, why wait until tomorrow.
GP, they need you more than ever.
Glen said he was a schoolteacher so he might be in class.
[Glen said he was a schoolteacher so he might be in class.]
I thought his school had been shut down due to swine flu?
The Government needs to more direct in stating and selling the deficit. To not do so gives the impression they are doing something wrong. It is time to stop acting like they are still in election mode.
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We need more GPs I would say not less.
Seeing as we are talking about morons, I’ll add Sharon Burrow to the list. Just imagine a CEO laying off workers during a GFC and not committing suicide. What is the world coming to. They should at least amputate a few fingers for every hundred workers sacked.
[“To pick out just two of the shameful responses in Australia, how can the CEO of the ANZ sleep at night knowing that he has survived because of taxpayer guarantees, continues to make serious profits but has sacked 500 workers and sent many of their jobs offshore?” she will say.
“How can the CEO of Pacific Brands take home her salary while she sends 1850 workers and their families to the poverty of unemployment? Shame.
“Well here’s a news flash from working people across the globe: we do not intend to be silent about these atrocities because, for the corporate cowboys and free-marketeers, the party is over.” ]
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25573107-601,00.html
Wilson Tuckey proposing that penalty rates increase the cost of food at McDonalds.
Thanks Aristotle.
[Frank @ 412
“it is the Kath & Kims that decide Elections”
Your constant unjustified attack on the Greens with such vitriol suggests to me that you have too much red meat in your diet. You need to eat more vegetables. Try a tofu burger instead of a BigMac. As Climate Change manifests itself more so will the Green vote increase. Labor and the Greens are a natural synergy. Learn to love your lentils otherwise you will be known as the “Kel Knight” of the Labor Right.]
What a classic response! Love it! 😀
[The Government needs to more direct in stating and selling the deficit. To not do so gives the impression they are doing something wrong. It is time to stop acting like they are still in election mode.]
Thomas old son take a look at the polls. Better still, take a look at the OO’s headline on the latest Newspoll – “Labor weathering economic attacks”.
[I reckon Bligh is just about to become the most unpopular State government in the country.
A large privatisation package AND removing the Qld petrol subsidy on the same day…. in Qld….
It will not end well for her.]
Possum, it’s not as if they were privatising a utility like water or power…
[The Port of Brisbane, Queensland Motorways, Queensland Rail’s coal haulage business and Forestry Plantations Queensland were all believed to be in the Government’s sights for sale.]
Finns, more good news was the MD of Holden (an American who doesn’t agree with what Sol said about Aust)) held a press conference with Carr praising the govt and stressing the point that they had not received any money from govt yet as the agreement was they had to pass all the test insisted upon by the govt which they have and when they start making their new greener car they will then get $1 for every $3 they spend on it themselves. None of their workers here or in NZ will lose their jobs
Lib’s Shultz and Pierce had a shoving match and shultz had to apologise, losers 😉
[It was the same for Labor when Bjelke-Peterson was in power ShowsOn. Don’t get too carried away.]
GP, it’s called the Bjelkemander.
Look at the bottom line graph on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_of_Queensland
When you take out Bjelke and Nicklin, it looks pretty sad and sorry for the Nationals. Pretty much all Labor since 1915. Poor QLD tories.
I hope there is no suggestion that Bligh was anything other than completely honest about her economic platform during the election campaign. I’m sure all these measures were fully discussed with the public who voted for her based on what she intended to do if she won government. 😉
bob1234 went:
[Possum, it’s not as if they were privatising a utility like water or power…]
It wont make much of a difference to many folk.
It’s funny, the fuel subsidy really stopped making sense about a decade ago and what is being flogged off wont make a rats of difference to anything much other than a better fiscal position for the State budget.
But Bligh will get hammered anyway.
[For the information of members and their guests:
I’ve posted a long term polling comparison of the first eighteen months of the Rudd Government 2007/09 and the first Howard Government 1996/7.]
Possum has a pretty graph somewhere comparing every poll starting from commencement of Rudd and Howard’s terms. It look wonderful.
Amigo Vera, i have more good news for U:
[Kim’s youngest son named successor: reports
News reports say North Korea has sent a message to its diplomatic missions abroad that Kim Jong Il’s youngest son has been named as the communist regime’s next leader.
The Hankook Ilbo and Dong-a Ilbo newspapers reported today that the regime sent the message right after the May 25 nuclear test and demanded diplomats pledge allegiance to Kim’s 26-year-old third son, Jong Un.]
North Korea’s next leader:
The Great Leader followed by the Dear Leader followed by Mouseketeer Leader. Smart move by the North Korean regime. The West will just love him.
😎
Not mention unleashing its TV News Readers.
[Wilson Tuckey proposing that penalty rates increase the cost of food at McDonalds.]
If the Liberals had their way, nobody anywhere would get additional pay for working nights, weekends, or public holidays. It’s all about the company dollar.
And GP supports this. FOR SHAME!! 😀
I know little about queensland but i would think Queensland Motorways would be the one that would upset people. Doubt people would care much about somethign like Forestry Plantations Queensland. Well maybe the CFMEU?
Hehe what is a toll road? Ive never seen one 😛
Well it’s hit News Ltd now…
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25574870-5006301,00.html
[ONE Liberal MP allegedly punched another during a heated argument about the relationship with the Nationals in the party-room this morning.
An official spokesman from the Coalition joint partyroom confirmed a “regrettable incident” had taken place.
Other sources said NSW Liberal firebrand Alby Schultz took a swing at Victorian Liberal Chris Pearce after the latter quipped “have a nice day” to Mr Schultz as he was storming out of the meeting.]
[It’s funny, the fuel subsidy really stopped making sense about a decade ago ]
Poss, cant have it both ways.
During the 1998 Asian FC, the Asian countries were hammered by the West and IMF for their fuel subsidies and that were for the POOR people. They were forced to cut back or stop the subsidies.
This middle class subsidy has got to stop. Good on you Anna. 😀
[We need more GPs I would say not less.]
Or a more intelligent GP. It would be nice if we could have the real Flint, Captain of the Walrus, instead of Captain Flint (Long John Silver’s parrot).
It will be funny to see the coalition faces tomorrow if we come in at positive growth. They will be trying to saythat is a good thing but really peeved that they have to leave the champagne corks in the bottle.
And who is that witch that sits behind turnbull one row back. I think she annoys me more than anyone in parliament (maybe not Fielding)
[Well it’s hit News Ltd now…]
It’s on The Australian website too. They obviously just wanted to be able to link to their new blog.
Finns, I like the look of that Jong Un, he might make fun not war 😀
[Poss, cant have it both ways.]
I didn’t realise I was having it any way.
The problem with the fuel subsidy is the tortuous way it is paid. Queensland just used to have a lower petrol excise, or petrol licence fee as it used to be dressed up. But when the High Court ruled that the licence fees were levied as excise and therefore unconstitutional for the State’s to levy, the Federal government had to take over the taxes. But as a Federal tax had to treat all states equally, the rate had to be common and the level was set as for the highest taxing state. Queensland had to come up with a complex method of handing the 8c per litre back to the retailer. There have always been doubts that some of this money was being syphoned off as profits on the way back to the bowser.
I say hold a referendum on taking the word ‘excise’ out of Section 90 of the Constitution, then the states can have all the petrol and cigarette taxes back
[Or a more intelligent GP. It would be nice if we could have the real Flint, Captain of the Walrus, instead of Captain Flint (Long John Silver’s parrot).]
For a sec there I though you meant the other other Flint !
Phew
[Finns, I like the look of that Jong Un, he might make fun not war ]
Is he a young un or a wrong un ??
and is his naming as a result of IL gotten gains
tehehe
Herr Doktor, you finally said something sensible:
[The figures come just hours before the Reserve Bank’s monthly announcement on interest rates, and on a day the share market hit a new high for 2009. While unemployment is still expected to rise over the coming year, recent indications at home and abroad suggest the worst of the slump may not be far off.
There are legitimate questions that can be raised as to whether we’re even in a recession,” said ICAP economist Adam Carr. ”It’s genuinely a line-ball call whether we get a positive number or not” in the first quarter GDP.]
http://business.smh.com.au/business/recession-fears-recede-20090602-btn3.html?page=-1
Keep it up.
centaur009, me too, that woman looks like she’s a few slices short of a loaf. She sit’s there with her mouth open and a moronic grin not matter what the topic is.