The weekly Roy Morgan face-to-face poll is the first in three weeks that doesn’t put a six in front of Labor’s two-party preferred vote, which is down from 61 per cent to 57.5 per cent. Labor’s primary vote is down from 53.5 per cent to 49.4 per cent and the Coalition’s up from 35.5 per cent to 38 per cent. The poll was conducted on the weekend, so very recent political developments would not have been a factor.
[Brandis is a very smart guy and a very ruthless operator, don’t underestimate him. I saw him tear Bob Brown to bits at a committee hearing in 2005.]
His legalistic carping may work well in Senate estimates, but it doesn’t look very good on TV.
LOL! Lateline has a new reporter – Michael Turtle. He is rumoured to be 200 years old.
Barbara @ 624 says:
I was at the front of the huge crowd of office workers at the lunchtime meeting that Hewson and Howard addressed down at Circular Quay just before the election in 1993.
The crowd reached full volume screaming abuse in about 45 seconds flat after Howard who was the warm up act started speaking. The PA was hopeless and he had to really had to bellow to be heard even on the podium (ie, temporary staging). Those of us who were at the front were soaked when he ended his err… spray and handed the mike to Hewson (who was much drier)
The way that meeting appeared on the evening news was the final nail in Hewson’s coffin. The sight of hundreds of middle class folk in business suits and shirts baying for Hewson’s blood was simply shocking. The police officers I was next to were quite frightened themselves and about three of us had to lock ourselves like a rugby scrum to allow a WPC who had slipped on a sanger to get up. The crush at the front was incredible and if I recall rightly the cops had to end the meeting prematurely. As it was when the Liberal party left the stage to the rear the crowd surged around the stage and they had to endure more screaming abuse as they walked the 30 or so metres to the CommCars
*** Touch a nerve there did I Adam? Frankly I don’t what you see in her. She’s conservative on social issues (including I believe Gay equality) and in her time in the Senate was dead lazy.
If the polls are right and the Liberals are belted.
Who will lead them, the odds are the next Liberal PM is some first term backbencher or isn’t in parliament.
I don’t believe Kevin Rudd was an MP in 1996.
While Peter Costello should be next leader and regardless of what the polls say he should hold Higgins, while the more I look at Wentworth the bleaker it looks for Turnbull but he may simplly move to a seat like Berowa, now if the polls are right then the likes of Brough and Pyne wont be around.
leaving the likes of Nelson and J.Bishop and people like Bruce Billson, now in theroy Dunkley is winnable fopr the ALP, but if Billson holds and he is a good performer than he should play a bigger role along with Greg Hunt.
I don’t see Alex Hawke ever being leader.
I have never even heard of Bruce Bilson or Greg Hunt.
no-one saw a certain person with the same initials as Alex Hawke as Leader either – and then one day he was.
#654
Who will lead them……..I hope the person isn’t born yet.
On current polls, the Leader of the Opposition will be the Leader of the Nationals Mark Vaille
Memo to Adam
There is a Greens candidate for Greenway. His name Leigh Williams. He is a councillor with the Hawkesbury City Council
His photo is on the Hawkesbury Council website if you want to update Greenway’s page.
There is also a Citizen’s Electoral Council Candidate, Goran Reves
FYI, thought you might want to know for your website…
OT, but quite amazing I think. There should be a bar in every one.
Office drinks lead to sex
{ONE man slept with 30 women from his workplace, another exposed his pe##s in the office and a banker had sex on all of her colleagues’ desks.}
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,22573682-5012424,00.html?from=mostpop
GG and Scorpio – I shouldn’t be trying to restart a Linux server and contributing to PB in the Gaelic at the same time. 653 was error free I think.
[Who will lead them, the odds are the next Liberal PM is some first term backbencher or isn’t in parliament.]
If the Liberals lose, and Costello wants to evetually become P.M, he should let Turnbull have the job. Costello should ask to be shadow foreign affairs. Then Turnbull gets to lose an election or two, and Costello becomes leader of the opposition in Labor’s 3rd term.
[I don’t believe Kevin Rudd was an MP in 1996.]
He was first elected in 1998.
[I don’t see Alex Hawke ever being leader.]
I think he will crash and burn in 4 – 6 years. He’ll adopt some stupid position on some extremist policy that will kill off his career, and open him up to pre-selection challenge.
Predictions on the Citizen’s Electoral Council vote for this election?
I’m going to go on a limb and predict a 0.5% vote.
I remember thinking before the last election… Citizen’s Electoral Council, i wonder what they’re about, only to visit their website and spend the next few minutes being amused and freaked out in equal quantities.
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You forgot Wilson Tuckey!!! He looks like being one of if not the most senior Libs left in the Parliament after the next election. Maybe Julie could be his deputy??
The fact you haven heard of either
Greg Hunt MP for Flinders
Bruce Billson MP for Dunkley
Is not in itself a bad thing, when we consider how this Govt has lost it, I suspect Rudd’s biggest strength is he has no clear relationship with the Keating Govt.
ShowsOn at #662
“Then Turnbull gets to lose an election or two, and Costello becomes leader of the opposition in Labor’s 3rd term.”
Yes – LazyArse With a Triple Bypass…
Albert,
How you become a drop kick is your own journey.
ShowsOn #662
Judging on past gullibility, Costello would be just the mug to fall that one a second time around.
I would be even more devastated if we lost and were without people like Brough, Turnbull and the likes that would be almost as bad as being beaten …
No Glen, more like Costello, another aspirational that will never be, Mr Rudd however will be your PM in six weeks 🙂
Thanks, SirEggo. The Greenies have been slow getting all their candidates up at their website. I haven’t looked for CEC candidates yet. I may choose to ignore them.
Well I have often heard the saying that the next Liberal Premier of Victoria is in year 10 of scotch well I sit on the Train with these year 10 boys and really I don’t see any potential leaders
No Worries Adam
It’s the year 10 kid drinking scotch!
I really hate it when the polls show Labor dropping to a merely stunning lead.
On timing of the election, I heard this evening that there ad been a huge number of cancellations of travel bookings to Canberra for next week.
I don’t like the chances of a bald, 68 year old Costello making it to PM, myself.
Would much prefer a balding 65 year old Julie Bishop.
Regarding Julie Bishop as a potential leader of the future, I can tell you as a working member of the Moste Evil Order of the Mayne-streem Meedja that we will absolutely tear her to pieces if she ever moves out of anything as soft as higher education. Since taking over from Dr Brendan she has shown such arrogance and disdain for our pitiful efforts at informing our readership of the govt’s intentions that we will dig deep, and hard, and nasty. If it’s not in the press release it’s not worth talking about, according to the Headmistress and her valiant PS. The woman’s not bright enough to overcome our vitriol. And her hairdo sucks. The fact that’s she’s female only potentially tips her over to the positive side of infintesimal meaninglessness.
[Judging on past gullibility, Costello would be just the mug to fall that one a second time around.]
If he becomes opposition leader straight away, then he will never be P.M. It’s almost impossible. That’s when the government will be most popular.
I’m going away and not comingback until I get my date with Anthony LOL 😉
Glen,
The problem you Libs have got is that under Howard, the true Liberals in the party have been wiped out and you now have have an official party full of right wing idealogues.
Well, the issue is that modern suburbia don’t give a fig about ideology.
Howard has taken you to the extremes. Work Choices is the biggest disaster ever implemented by any Government. It destroyed the Liberal party in this Century.
Chew on that!
Mark Twain i can accept that you dont like Julie’s policies but at least she has a half decent hair style instead of Gillard, her random hair cuts crack me up lol!
Not necessarily so long as the Libs can prove the people bought a pig in a poke…
[I really hate it when the polls show Labor dropping to a merely stunning lead.]
Better than News and Fairfax reporting 60 / 40 MorganPolls. When they do that I worry that Howard will pick up a big sympathy vote.
It’s been fascinating today that there have been so many more posts sympathetic to the Government. A cynical person would think there’s a bit of party coordination going on leading up to an announcement.
But there again that would require organisational skills.
Crikey Whitey Says:
October 12th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
I really hate it when the polls show Labor dropping to a merely stunning lead.
Yeah, it’s a real let down really. I’m surprised the Betting Agencies haven’t been offering odds on the outcome of the various polls.
I reckon they’d make an absolute killing amongst the likes of us. It would surely add a new dimension to Psephology.
Adding the element of risk and excitement to the process rather than just labouriously plodding along from one poll to the other.
Seriously, the conspiracy theories proposing that glen and others are liberal plants are loopy.
In respect to the polls, the only question to be answered is how big will the Ruddslide be?
SirEggo, is Cr Williams, um, ok? He doesn’t look very well.
Beware of Hubris A M…
Glen
Please Explain?
Showson@#651
I was going to make the same point. He always sounds like he’s in a university debate and he laways gives the impression that he loves the sound of his own voice and he’s always too clever for his opponent. Doesn’t go down well on the tele.
“LOL! Lateline has a new reporter – Michael Turtle. He is rumoured to be 200 years old.”
Don’t know how old he is but he is rumoured to be carrying the weight of the world on his back.
This to some proves the existence of God.
An atheist came up to Michael and said “Ah yes but if you holding the world up proves the existence of God, then what’s holding you up?”
To which Michael responded: “Mate, it’s turtles all the way down.”
If Libs lose they will be wandering in the wilderness for years and they know it. The PS has a lot of vent up anger and a lot of information that will totally destroy their credibility once Rudd releases Howard’s repression rules which he will obligingly do.
A M I can accept people thinking Labor are favourites but they havent won the election yet and to continue to predict for certain a Ruddslide smack of hubris (arrogance)…
Yep, that’s him…
As to his health, well I can’t say. I only found out he was a candidate because looked it up on the ABC Election Website. Haven’t heard a peep out of him.
Turnbull will probably do a deal for him to be leader with a promise to hand over to Costello after one term. Im sure Costello will be happy with that.
Glen,
I know what Hubris is, I must have caught from listening to Howard for the last 11yrs.
{Don’t know how old he is but he is rumoured to be carrying the weight of the world on his back.}
I thought that was Atlas?
and the Hawke/Keating years….
I am glad you people are so certain of a win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down