YouGov has conducted an MRP poll for moderate Liberal think thank the Blueprint Institute, a procedure well described in the accompanying release as “different from traditional polling because it uses polling data collected across Australia to model the results across each of the federal 150 electorates by matching the polling data to electorate level data”. Ample detail, and voluminous colour-coded maps, are featured in the accompanying report.
The poll is not concerned with voting intention, but whether respondents would so much as consider voting for each party. With the catch that the survey was conducted some time ago – July 10 to 29, from a sample of 5007 – it finds that only 33% would consider voting Coalition, whereas 58% reported doing so at some point in the past. The equivalent responses on the former question are 42% for Labor, 17% for the Greens and 12% for One Nation. Out of the four Australian Electoral Commission geographic classifications, only in “rural” were respondents more likely to consider voting Coalition than Labor, by a margin of 2.8%, with Labor leading by 8.5% in provincial, 14.8% in outer metropolitan and 17.1% in inner metropolitan.
Helpfully for the poll’s clients, who are presumably resisting a push within the party to abandon its net zero commitment, it finds 49% agreeing the target should be maintained and 30% that it should be dropped, with 51% agreeing they would “only consider a party ready to govern if they have credible policies to address climate change and its impacts”. Among other findings: 24% agreed and 52% disagreed that the Coalition was “in touch with modern Australia”; 33% agreed and 45% disagreed that the party was aligned with their personal values and priorities; and 33% agreed and 42% disagreed that that the Coalition’s values aligned with its own on access to affordable housing.
Sounds like push polling to me. The Libs I know are all Dan hating (still) climate change denying quiet Trump supporters. 49-51% support for climate change action just doesn’t ring true. Of course, I haven’t polled anybody, but in your guts, you know their nuts….
Those findings aren’t limited to Liberal voters.
Sussan Ley is the best thing the Liberals have going for them and most of her MPs don’t even realise it and want to get rid of her. She’s the only thing keeping them a contemporary political party…and the MPs supporting her on her own side.
So can I say Pauline Hamson is affiliated with Neo Nazis or will Moira Deeming sue me?
The problem for the federal lib/nats and propaganda media units, that domestic politics is now starting to be more focus on. Which the lib/nats propaganda media units didn’t want
The federal lib /nats are showing they have no policies , split on climate matters such as net zero and nuclear
The cost of living crisis seem to have vanish all of a sudden
Federal Labor to their credit , whether people agree with their policies or not ,
Labor is not in hubris , they are governing and putting policies out there in the public
“we are one”
As unlikely an accurate description as is possible in Australia.
The Great Dividing Range manifests itself in so many forms, is allowed to be described in such abstract variations and violates any notion of cohesion and calm.
The current eruption of immigration hate, an outbreak of division observable on so many levels as to make mockery of any pretence of “we are one”.
It seems the concept of “ticket of leave” remains a convention with interpretations to suit.
… moderately full of shit?
Que?
c@tmomma: “Sussan Ley is the best thing the Liberals have going for them and most of her MPs don’t even realise it and want to get rid of her. She’s the only thing keeping them a contemporary political party…and the MPs supporting her on her own side.”
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The Libs certainly need the approach favoured by Sussan: ie, trying very hard to swim back towards the centre. Whether or not they need her personally is a different question. I’ve happened to hear a couple of QTs on the radio recently, and I thought her performance was poor.
Let’s she how she deals with the outcomes of Dan Tehan’s report. If she’s forced to cave in and abandon net zero, her leadership will move into palliative care. She’s going to have to find a way to stand up to the appalling bullying she is currently getting from the Nats. All this complete bollocks about renewables destroying beautiful farmland. Go out and find some farmers who are making a motza out of it and get their voices into the debate. There’s lots that can be done to counter this nonsense, and she and her supporters need to get on with it.
The Coalition has not had a remotely credible climate change policy of their own since the ETS that the Howard Government took to the 2007 election. They have not in any way supported effective climate action since Tony Abbott took the leadership of the Liberals from Malcolm Turnbull in 2009 and reneged on the deal that the Coalition had struck with the Rudd Government to support the CPRS.
The neo nazis took the time off from their lil parade to go fight Pro-Palestine protestors but Cash thinks it all happened because we didnt back Israel enough. Delusional, delusional stuff.
Not the big issue it was despite lefties thinking it is aka climate wars .Apart from electricity prices smashing the poor.
Very interesting to see future polls one issue that’s been all over the news is labors very high immigration Australians have had it imposed upon them labor tried to keep the issue quiet during election campaign.
Without population Ponzi scheme labor cannot grow the economy we even have a percapita economic stagnation even with elevated population as labor does not have a plan for productivity apart from stunts other than bringing people in which drives up rents and homelessness everywhere I still see tents in parks in Perth and people sleeping in cars.Shame Labor!
The globalists are being smashed in USA,EU and the Brexit man in UK is killing it and it’s spread here a good thing!
Trashing your poor never a good look labor!
Lies below as usual not supply it’s too many people thanks to labor federal government globalists.Tell the poor who are homeless and others paying massive rent increases they benefit from migration/students taking accommodation labor globalists snobs!
Priced Australians out of housing purchase as well.Thanks labor globalists!
Morning all. Thanks to Bizzcan for some well justified comments on the immigration debate on the previous thread.
Immigration to Australia has been high for a long time, but attracts controversy when it coincides with another problem. So when unemployment is high immigrants are stealing our jobs. When housing is unaffordable immigrants are pushing up the price of houses (apparently while working for Uber?).
Our housing crisis is due to bad tax policy, and a ten year failed experiment in privatised skill training that left us without enough tradies, just as the boomer generation of tradies were retiring.
I would argue that in both cases it is a case of scapegoating, assuming that most immigrants who come here are working or studying. That is generally the case.
We shouldn’t discount the value of foreign students. Their fees keep our underfunded tertiary sector afloat. They mainly live in student accommodation which is separate to the normal rental market. Economically their impact is massively positive. Without them we would have chronic shortages of doctors and engineers.
We can turn off the immigration tap, but it would require governments to make massive changes to economic policy. Fewer workers would require more productivity and later retirement. Less income would require higher tax rates.
No government wants to spell it out, but all existing Australian residents benefit from immigration. There was a problem with the Liberals using visa categories to suppress wages, but that has been fixed since Morrison was turfed.
GFY2says:
Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 7:04 am
A pleasant change !
Que ?
#weatheronPB
Memory of rain,
despite the sun’s best efforts,
is drawn in the earth.
pied piper @ 7.26am:
Ah yes, because white Australian (mostly Boomer) property investors don’t exist.
Migrants have always been a convenient scapegoat, blamed for whatever the major problems are bedevilling the country at the time.
If we really want to know the causes of a major problem, maybe the question to ask is “cui bono?”, who is benefiting from the situation?
Steve 7:46am
Exactly.
This tweet is concerning. Trump really could crash the US economy.
“FinTwitter @fintwitter.bsky.social· 7h
U.S. STOCK MARKET REACHES MOST EXPENSIVE LEVEL IN HISTORY, OVERTAKING DOT-COM ERA AND 1929 PRE-DEPRESSION PEAK”
(In this context they mean price to earnings ratio when referring to share valuation.)
@William, I see that now! Note to self – don’t post at 3.40am EST.
Now the figure worries me the opposite way. 49-51% of a global population is too low! Urgent action is required on climate change and nothing gets done in this country without overwhelming support.
And the their/there/they’re error is a tad embarrassing.
Again I applaud our moderator for the extraordinary work he does herding his cats.
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@albo – there weren’t good people on that march. There might have been some less offensive bigots, there might have been some naive bigots, but good people stayed at home. It was well known that extremists had organised it, to turn up anyway was to give them tacit support.
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The assault on the encampment was a terror attack. It must be treated as such.
World News & Politics Patrol:
To defend against Russian tanks, Finland and Poland consider restoring wetlands: https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250828-to-defend-against-russian-tanks-finland-and-poland-consider-restoring-wetlands
Zelenskyy points out that the “two weeks” Trump gave Russia are almost up: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/08/31/7528685/
Ukraine plans new strikes deep into Russia, Zelenskiy says: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-plans-new-strikes-deep-into-russia-zelenskiy-says-2025-08-31/
Maduro Warns of ‘Bloody Threat’ as Trump Deploys Warships Near Venezuela: https://www.newsweek.com/maduro-wans-trump-venezuela-us-navy-warships-2122827
EU chief’s plane hit by suspected Russian GPS interference during landing: https://tvpworld.com/88657721/von-der-leyen-plane-hit-by-suspected-russian-gps-jamming-during-landing-in-bulgaria
India sends aid to Afghanistan after earthquake kills over 800 people: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-sends-aid-to-afghanistan-after-earthquake-kills-over-800-people-101756728113705.html
Yvette Cooper accused of pushing children towards people smugglers by halting refugee scheme: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/01/yvette-cooper-accused-of-pushing-children-towards-people-smugglers-by-halting-refugee-scheme
Donald Trump Posting Week-Old Photo Raises Eyebrows Amid Health Speculation: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-photos-2122478
Trump Admits His Administration Is Being ‘Ripped Apart’ by Vaccine Fight: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admits-his-administration-is-being-ripped-apart-by-vaccine-fight/
Trump Lashes Out After Putin and Modi Are Seen Holding Hands: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-lashes-out-after-putin-and-modi-are-seen-holding-hands/
Gavin Newsom Mocks Trump With Labor Day Message: ‘Sick Warped Radical Mind’: https://www.latintimes.com/gavin-newsom-mocks-trump-labor-day-message-sick-warped-radical-mind-589051
Trump’s bill a ‘death warrant’ say parents of sick rural kids whose treatment is tied up in Medicaid red tape: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-bill-medicaid-kids-rural-america-b2815265.html
Trump to award Rudy Giuliani the Presidential Medal of Freedom: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rudy-giuliani-presidential-medal-of-freedom/
House committee withdraws Robert Mueller subpoena over health issues: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-mueller-subpoena-withdrawn-jeffrey-epstein-house-overnight/
Good Morning. Here’s Your Local Ish Daily News and Views Roundup.
Australians obsessed with interest rates because ‘there is not enough else to talk about’, former RBA governor says. Glenn Stevens tells Reserve Bank historian: ‘We’ve got a lot of media capacity and not enough real news to fill it’
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/01/australia-well-served-by-rba-inflation-band-but-monetary-policy-impact-may-now-be-exhausted-ex-governors-say
Doomsayers proved wrong again as businesses expand and prosper. By Alan Austin
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/doomsayers-proved-wrong-again-as-businesses-expand-and-prosper,20107
Violent incidents broke out in Sydney following Sunday’s anti-immigration protest. Two men have been charged over the alleged assault of a police officer in an inner city pub, and a brawl was caught on video at Redfern train station.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/ugly-brawls-erupt-after-sydney-anti-immigration-protest-20250901-p5mrbj.html
Victorian Liberal members to push for regulated cannabis market at state council.
Proposal to treat cannabis similarly to alcohol among 62 policy motions on draft agenda, alongside increased parental leave and scrapping net zero
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/02/victorian-liberal-members-to-push-for-regulated-cannabis-market-at-state-council
Inside the Liberal Party: Where power is bought and policies sold. By Heath Clark
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/inside-the-liberal-party-where-power-is-bought-and-policies-sold,20100
Queensland scraps wind farm proposed to power half-a-million homes
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/queensland/queensland-scraps-wind-farm-proposed-to-power-half-a-million-homes-20250901-p5mris.html
Queensland CFMEU boss Jared Abbott claims union’s cultural issues have been fixed after a year of administration
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/qld-cfmeu-administration-cultural-issues-jared-abbott/105721222
Revealed: The dramatic moment police capture man who crashed into Russian consulate
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/police-operation-underway-at-russian-consulate-in-sydney-s-eastern-suburbs-20250901-p5mrcv.html
Liverpool’s Liberal mayor Ned Mannoun allegedly solicited a $2000 donation from a property developer to help fund the failed election campaign of the council’s current chief executive, Jason Breton, who ran as an independent in the 2021 local government poll, a public inquiry has heard.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-mayor-the-developer-s-2000-donation-and-the-failed-election-campaign-20250901-p5mrkg.html
Beloved Fitzroy music venue wins noise fight but issues warning over legal loophole
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/beloved-fitzroy-music-venue-wins-noise-fight-but-issues-warning-over-legal-loophole-20250901-p5mre2.html
Ambulances spent a record 7,074 hours ramped outside WA hospitals in August, despite elective surgeries being postponed to ease pressure. Liberal Leader Basil Zempilas called for the $217m Burswood racetrack project to be scrapped and redirected into health. But the government has blamed an unprecedented flu season on the spike, saying its doing all it can.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/wa-sets-new-ambulance-ramping-record/105720226
PM says some good people marched on Sunday, blames exploitation by neo-Nazis.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pm-says-some-good-people-marched-on-sunday-blames-exploitation-by-neo-nazis-20250901-p5mrd6.html
How neo-Nazis used the shield of ‘ordinary mums and dads’ at Australia’s anti-immigration rallies to sell white supremacy
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/02/how-neo-nazis-used-the-shield-of-ordinary-mums-and-dads-at-australia-anti-immigration-rallies-to-sell-white-supremacy-ntwnfb
Thousands of Australians claim there’s been unprecedented migration. Here’s what the numbers say
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/thousands-of-australians-claim-there-s-been-unprecedented-migration-here-s-what-the-numbers-say-20250901-p5mrd1.html
The March for Australia’s racism can’t just be blamed on far-right ‘extremists’ – it’s been enabled by the mainstream
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/01/understanding-anti-immigration-march-protest-australian-mainstream-society-ntwnfb
Labor faces Senate showdown over home supports for older Australians
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/senate-showdown-home-support-older-australians/105722640
Ageing Australians are waiting too long for home care packages. Here’s why
https://theconversation.com/ageing-australians-are-waiting-too-long-for-home-care-packages-heres-why-264125
Beijing invited me to this special celebration. Here’s why I’m happy to go. Bob Carr
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/beijing-invited-me-to-this-special-celebration-here-s-why-i-m-happy-to-go-20250901-p5mrf6.html
As Putin bombards Kyiv, Ukraine fears being forgotten by Australia.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/as-putin-bombards-kyiv-ukraine-fears-being-forgotten-by-australia-20250901-p5mrdc.html
Trump says he’s determined to weaken China. He’s doing the opposite. Peter Hartcher
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/trump-says-he-s-determined-to-weaken-china-he-s-doing-the-opposite-20250901-p5mrjx.html
Trump’s attempts to lure companies away from China are backfiring
U.S. firms wrestling with Trump’s unpredictable trade policy are calculating it’s better to stay put in China than reshore — at least for now.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/31/were-trapped-trumps-tariffs-lock-us-businesses-in-china-00535666
Trump’s tariffs are headed to the US Supreme Court, prolonging the chaos on trade
https://theconversation.com/trumps-tariffs-are-headed-to-the-us-supreme-court-prolonging-the-chaos-on-trade-264249
Trump renews sanctions threat against Russia over slow progress toward peace. “Massive sanctions or massive tariffs or both,” Trump warns as he appears to give Putin a two-week deadline.
https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-renews-sanctions-threat-against-russia-over-slow-progress-toward-peace/
US President Donald Trump will award the presidential medal of freedom to former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, one day after Giuliani was hospitalised for injuries suffered in a serious car crash in New Hampshire. Ridiculous.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-news-live-more-than-800-killed-in-afghanistan-earthquake-trump-to-award-presidential-medial-of-freedom-to-giuliani-20250902-p5mrn8.html
Democrats face an increasingly frustrated base over redistricting
The party faces an uphill battle to regain an edge in the remapping war.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/01/dems-redistricting-pressure-00537176
What chaos at the US CDC could mean for the rest of the world.
https://theconversation.com/what-chaos-at-the-us-cdc-could-mean-for-the-rest-of-the-world-264188
Let’s be blunt: Putin has called Trump’s bluff on Ukraine. David Crowe
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/let-s-be-blunt-putin-has-called-trump-s-bluff-on-ukraine-20250901-p5mras.html
Midair scare for EU chief blamed on ‘blatant’ Russian GPS jamming. David Crowe
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/midair-scare-for-eu-chief-blamed-on-blatant-russian-gps-jamming-20250902-p5mrmr.html
Palestinians could each be handed $7600 and other incentives to leave Gaza under US proposals to take over the war-torn enclave for at least a decade and transform it into a tourist resort and manufacturing hub, according to a document circulating in Washington.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-kills-senior-hamas-spokesperson-in-gaza-20250901-p5mrb1.html
Leaked ‘Gaza Riviera’ plan dismissed as ‘insane’ attempt to cover ethnic cleansing
Prospectus proposes forced displacement of entire population and puts territory into US trusteeship
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/01/leaked-gaza-riviera-plan-dismissed-as-insane-attempt-to-cover-ethnic-cleansing
The deadly toll on journalists in the Gaza war. With foreign media barred, Palestinians have reported alone, facing the ‘most deliberate effort to kill and silence’ them ever.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactive/2025/sep/01/israel-gaza-war-media-palestinian-journalists-killed-cpj
Under-16s ban: how hard will it be for Australian social media users to prove their age? The age assurance technology trial found errors are inevitable – meaning users might have to provide other ID or appeal against wrongful bans.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/02/under-16s-ban-how-hard-will-it-be-for-australian-social-media-users-to-prove-their-age
Big tech is a weapon of mass destruction to democracy. Here are three ways Australia can fight back
Nobel Prize Winner Maria Ressa
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/01/maria-ressa-australia-national-press-club-speech-big-tech-wmd-democracy
Federal politics live: Government moves to restrict AI apps that create nude images
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/federal-politics-live-sept-2/105722386
Australia boosts corporate law enforcement as America goes soft. Ian Verrender
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/trump-loyalist-appointed-to-pursue-corporate-crime/105722354
Xi and Modi vow to resolve border differences following US trade tariffs on India.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/xi-jinping-narendra-modi-not-rivals-trade-talks-tianjin/105719248
Narendra Modi and Vladimir Putin meet in China at Shanghai Cooperation Organization meeting
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/narendra-modi-meets-putin-at-shanghai-cooperation-meeting/105722964
India turns away from Trump’s America. The U.S. is losing a strategic partner in an important part of the world.
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-america-india-china-europe-liberation-day-tariffs/
Authoritarian rulers aren’t new – here’s what Herodotus, an early Greek historian, wrote about them
https://theconversation.com/authoritarian-rulers-arent-new-heres-what-herodotus-an-early-greek-historian-wrote-about-them-259127
Marine Le Pen seizes her moment to shake France. Undeterred by her ban on running for political office, the far-right leader is out to bring down the government and press for new elections.
https://www.politico.eu/article/marine-le-pen-national-rally-francois-bayrou-france-no-confidence-vote/
Keir Starmer wants to fix Britain. He’s still working out how.
As Britain’s prime minister embarks on another No. 10 revamp, some officials are questioning the structures he created to show “delivery” to the public.
https://www.politico.eu/article/keir-starmer-britain-downing-street-schools-rachel-reeves/
UK bars Israeli officials from London arms fair. Decision to bar Israeli officials is directly linked to Israel’s war in Gaza, U.K. government spokesman tells POLITICO.
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-israel-officials-gaza-military-defense-politics/
One telling thing about the attack on the encampment is that the people attacked were definitely not migrants…
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gollsays:
Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 6:58 am
“we are one”
As unlikely an accurate description as is possible in Australia.
The Great Dividing Range manifests itself in so many forms, is allowed to be described in such abstract variations and violates any notion of cohesion and calm.
The current eruption of immigration hate, an outbreak of division observable on so many levels as to make mockery of any pretence of “we are one”.
It seems the concept of “ticket of leave” remains a convention with interpretations to suit.
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Goll
Why are Indians a target of anti-immigration rallies in Australia?
Indian-born people are the second-largest migrant group in Australia after the UK, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. As of June 2023, there were approximately 8.4 lakh Indian-born residents in Australia.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/why-are-indians-a-target-of-anti-immigration-rallies-in-australia-2780329-2025-09-01#google_vignette
Me: To the credit of Julian Leeser, he showed concern about anti-Indian sentiment expressed at ‘March for Australia’ rallies across Australia.
‘Never a good sign’: Trump’s new partner for ‘evil’ Gaza rebuilding plan shocks analyst
President Donald Trump has teamed up with a surprising character in his bid to help rebuild the Gaza Strip, according to reports.
Axios reported on Thursday that former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has been working with Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, on a plan to rebuild Gaza after Israel’s war with Hamas ends. Trump has previously described the Gaza Strip as a prime real estate location, and Kushner has been linked to several real estate deals since leaving the White House during Trump’s first administration.
The Washington Post reported on Sunday that at least part of the Gaza rebuilding plan involves the U.S. administering the state for a decade. The plan also envisions forming public-private partnerships to build electric vehicle plants, data centers, luxury resorts, and high-rise apartments.
James argued that the plan seems disconnected from the reality of the war in Gaza.
AI Live
“Workplace relations minister Amanda Rishworth is on the Nine network, where she is asked about the weekend rallies. There is a bit of a move on within some of the media to reframe the marches as ‘good people who were snowed by Nazis’ which discounts the amount of information available before the march about who was helping to organise it and support it. As well as the themes of the march. Which was not just ‘good people want to support Australia’. The grace given to protesters at these marches, where neo-Nazis were platformed (and we are yet to hear condemnation from the anti-semitism envoy Jillian Segal, who was very quick to criticise anti-genocide protests) compared to those who attended Palestinian marches is very, very clear.
The debate has turned to ‘when will you release the next migration target’ rather than ‘how do we counter growing white supremacy and fascism in our community’.”
https://live.australiainstitute.org.au/2025/09/australia-institute-live-albanese-government-facing-questions-on-aged-care-nauru-deal-climate-targets-and-population-as-domestic-issues-return-to-the-fore-all-the-days-events-live/#03c15d6bf7
Cat and HH thanks for the morning roundups. The evidence that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza is grim and growing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/leading-scholars-say-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/105723090
Past calls for Australia to “stop supplying arms to Israel” have been a bit silly because our government doesn’t do so and the supply of F35 parts is contractually obligated by our involvement in the F35 program.
However if Gaza gets any worse we probably are at the point where government can and should ban supply of any military components to Israel.
Thanks Holden and c@t!
The one big reform not discussed at Labor’s roundtable
https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/09/the-one-big-reform-not-discussed-at-labors-roundtable/
“Despite the strong support for tax reform at last month’s economic reform roundtable, perhaps the most important single reform hardly rated a mention: a carbon tax – or, in the economists’ preferred euphemism, “a price on carbon”.
I don’t doubt that virtually every economist attending the meeting would have agreed that a carbon price is needed.
So why was it unmentionable? Because Anthony Albanese and his faint-hearted troops have convinced themselves that the main reason the infighting-riddled Rudd-Gillard-Rudd Labor Government was sent packing at the 2013 election was Julia Gillard’s introduction of a carbon price in 2012, which that great statesman Tony Abbott repealed in 2014. Yeah, sure.
Add in Labor’s promise to make a minor change to “ franking credits” at the 2019 election, the misrepresentation of which probably does most to explain why it lost, and you see why Labor’s brave warriors have concluded that any mention of tax changes brings instant political death.”
Steve777, Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 8:09 am:
Yes. Neo-Nazis care about race, not population numbers. Too few appreciate that distinction.
Politicians have scapegoated immigration for decades. It’s time to flip the script
https://theconversation.com/politicians-have-scapegoated-immigration-for-decades-its-time-to-flip-the-script-264266
“For decades now, public discourse about refugees and immigrants has become increasingly fractured, ugly and untrue.
From John Howard’s “we will decide who comes to this country” mantra, to Kevin Rudd’s “if you come by boat you will never permanently live in Australia” in 2013, through to Tony Abbott’s “stop the boats” election victory that same year, it has been a prominent feature of Australia’s recent political landscape.
For the Coalition, it was about stopping so-called “illegals”.
For Labor, it was framed as “saving lives at sea”.
For both, it was about keeping people seeking asylum out of contact with the Australian community, demonised and dehumanised, called by numbers, not names.
Against this backdrop, it’s perhaps unsurprising Australians turned out in the thousands to rally against immigration this weekend. It could be seen as the culmination of years of MPs using immigration issues for short-term political gain.
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The dissonance, though, is that the broader architecture of Australia’s asylum policies remains squarely in place. It’s largely about deterrence, interception and offshoring.”
Cartoon Time
Alan Moir
Cathy Wilcox
Matt Golding
Joe Benke
First Dog On the Moon
Across the nation, the March for Australia got under way stuffed full of Australians from all walks of (intolerant of other people) life
From data centres to waking up hungover: Edith Pritchett’s week in Venn diagrams
Ben Jennings on Nigel Farage’s noisy summer
Ben Jennings on the Minneapolis school shooting
Becky Barnicoat on the sneaky added costs of budget air travel
From the Internet
Enjoy!
Ven,
No one minds you standing up for Indian-Australians. It’s just your slavish and sycophantic support for Modi that irks.
Trump hasn’t been well for ages, in mind or body.
What isn’t helping him and his lackies, is all the blow back coming their way, of the seeds he and his regime have sown.
Buckle up……
By sending non-visa holders to Nauru, Australia is shifting its responsibilities
https://theconversation.com/by-sending-non-visa-holders-to-nauru-australia-is-shifting-its-responsibilities-264256
“But Nauru is a small, poor island nation, with a population of around 13,000.
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It is unclear whether any of the funding provided by the Australian government under this deal will actually ensure effective rehabilitation or support for this cohort in Nauru.
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Instead of working to rehabilitate or reintegrate this cohort in the Australian community, Australia is exploiting Nauru’s financial dependence and status as a poorer country to absorb these people into their community.”
Ageing Australians are waiting too long for home care packages. Here’s why
https://theconversation.com/ageing-australians-are-waiting-too-long-for-home-care-packages-heres-why-264125
I can’t even get an ACAT. Been on the list since May. Told I am definitely in the queue.
Will chase it again today as another month has gone by.
“Generate me a picture of a world famous 20th century politician holding a cat, but do it in the style of a poorly curated photoshop picture.”
I’m not impressed, you can clearly tell its photoshopped
It is not a bad thing to question the pros annd cons of our immigration policy.
But if you are going to align yourselves with the neo Nazis who actually attacked the First Nation people camp. You know the people who actually were here first and for the longest time.
You are a Bona fide piece of excrement.
Calls for inquiry into Camp Sovereignty attack after Melbourne March for Australia rally
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/iat-camp-sovereignty-follow/105722830
“An attack on a First Nations protest camp in Melbourne by far-right demonstrators should be investigated as a hate crime, Aboriginal leaders say.
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“You’d think the police would have monitored them but they turned up very late and did nothing when they got there. They didn’t apprehend anyone.
“There are questions to be asked to the police. Why weren’t they on top of those things when they knew it was a threat?”
Thanks C@t and Hh.
Further to meher baba’s earlier comment about hearing farmer’s voices wrt climate change, Farmers for Climate Action are in the middle of a two-day conference in Canberra which is largely being ignored:
“… 618 farmers surveyed ahead of the Farming Forever event, with 57 per cent pinpointing climate change as the greatest threat to agriculture.”
“The polling also revealed broad support for renewables, with 65 per cent looking to produce and store clean energy on their farms and 80 per cent supportive of local infrastructure upgrades to allow them to participate more easily in the transition.”
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/polling-farmers-not-facebook-reveals-climate-reality/ar-AA1LFdDf?
This is why Australia imposing a carbon price now will not make much difference. The LNP is cancelling a major wind farm project that is economic and would reduce power prices in Qld.
“Queensland scraps wind farm proposed to power half-a-million homes”
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/queensland/queensland-scraps-wind-farm-proposed-to-power-half-a-million-homes-20250901-p5mris.html
If climate change did not exist this would still be economic vandalism. A carbon price won’t fix this sort of reactionary behavior.
laughtongsays:
Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 8:43 am
Ageing Australians are waiting too long for home care packages.
I can’t even get an ACAT. Been on the list since May. Told I am definitely in the queue.
Will chase it again today as another month has gone by.
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I feel for you. Unlike Scott who simply accuses the opposition and crossbench of playing politics with aged care.
Sam Rae on 774 with Raf now trying to spin it. It’s like listening to Hewson and the birthday cake interview.
Pegasus
“ Calls for inquiry into Camp Sovereignty attack after Melbourne March for Australia rally”
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I agree. There were maybe two thousand protesters on the weekend and perhaps two dozen who attacked the camp. They used the march as a cover for targeted violence.
Mostly interested in…
Least you didn’t ask it to generate a 20 century political leader grabbing a pussie,that might have gone to the moderator for review.
Pegasus,
People would tolerate your endless link posting favourable to your causes if you put them all in one post, like the rest of us who do that sort of thing do daily.
Don’t worry, I know you’ll ignore this call for common sense because you think multiple posts increase your visibility. Or something.
Former pugilist “Aussie” Joe Bugner (born in Hungary) dies on the Goldy, aged 75, of dementia.
“Aussie” Alex de Minaur defeats a Swiss qualifier at the US Open in three, moving into the quarters to play in-form Canadian Felix Auger-Aliassime.
Dan Tehan on ABC Radio National Breakfast said:
“We’re seeing all the big tech companies look to nuclear and look to energy abundance as an absolute key for economies going forward. And yet, here in Australia, we seem to be constraining our energy at every opportunity.”
Reality is a bit different from rhetoric. In the last 15 years, almost half of the new global nuclear capacity has been installed in China, yet it makes up only 2% of their generating capacity. “Meanwhile, former nuclear leaders US, Japan and Europe have stopped building new projects in the last decade – leaving them with an aging fleet of reactors and a widening skills shortage.”
https://www.climatechangenews.com/2025/08/21/emerging-asia-reactors-new-wave-power-energy-developing-china-korea/
Re Pegasus @8:39. ”For the Coalition, it was about stopping so-called “illegals”.
It’s about race. Had they been white Anglo expatriates fleeing troubles in Asia, does anyone imagine that the reaction would have been the same?
There is a discussion about shortage of houses either for renting or to own. The new immigrants are immediately blamed for the shortages.
As, Socrates posted @7:28 am
“Our housing crisis is due to bad tax policy, and a ten year failed experiment in privatised skill training that left us without enough tradies, just as the boomer generation of tradies were retiring.
I would argue that in both cases it is a case of scapegoating, assuming that most immigrants who come here are working or studying. That is generally the case”
But one of the fastest way to build lots of houses in short term is to build Granny flats.
For example, I built a granny flat behind the brick house of my investment property.
I rented both of them.
Re HH @8:06, from the last item linked.
”The House Oversight Committee has withdrawn a request for testimony from Robert Mueller about the case involving convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein due to new information on the former special counsel’s health, a committee aide told CBS News. ”
That’s how Donald Trump will escape accountability for anything in due course.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/01/politics/chicago-braces-national-guard-immigration-operation