Polls: Essential Research and Roy Morgan (open thread)

The fortnightly Essential poll finds Labor’s stocks rising a little — but not as much as Donald Trump’s.

The fortnightly Essential Research poll is one of the more encouraging sets of recent polling numbers for Labor, finding them up three on the primary vote to 32% with the Coalition up one to 34%, the Greens down two to 11%, One Nation down one to 7%, and the undecided component steady at 7%. Labor has its nose back in front on the pollster’s 2PP+ measure, up one to 47% with the Coalition down two to 46% and the remainder undecided. Anthony Albanese also improves on the monthly leadership ratings, up three on approval to 43% and down three on disapproval to 46%, while Peter Dutton is up one on approval to 42% and down one on disapproval 41%.

Also featured are some particularly interesting results on US politics, including a finding that Donald Trump was viewed more favourably in the survey period than he had been after the 2020 election (but before January 6). Trump was viewed favourably by 36% and unfavourably 56%, compared with 20% and 72% in 2020, and 23% felt Australia’s relationship with the United States would improve under Trump compared with 37% who felt it would worsen, the corresponding results last time being 7% and 63%.

A very occasional series of questions on unions suggests they are strongly supported, with 64% rating them important to working people today and 26% rating them unimportant, respectively up four points and two points, and a 63-37 split recorded in favour of them being good for the economy over bad. A third of respondents felt Labor was too close to the unions, another third felt the balance was about right, 10% thought they weren’t close enough, and the remainder weren’t sure. Labor scored higher than the Coalition on a series of questions involving the rights of workers, including a slight edge on the question of “ensuring unions are operating ethically”, with Labor favoured by 27% and the Coalition favoured by 23%. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1137.

The weekly Roy Morgan poll has Labor leading 50.5-49.5 on its respondent-allocated two-party measure, and by 51-49 when it applies preference flows from 2022. The primary votes are Labor 30.5% (down one), Coalition 37.5% (down two), Greens 13% (steady) and One Nation 6.5% (up one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1652.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Yeah, while I mostly blame Morrison for his 5-year lock in jobseeker contract for this crap, C@t’s attitude really hurt me tonight, being like “Oh yeah?! What’s your circumstances?! Why don’t you just get out and go to work?! Why don’t you just stop being depressed and go and get a minimum wage job already?!”

    That was just fucking mean.

  2. MelbourneMammoth says:
    Thursday, August 1, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    If you were laid off at 64, you should have saved up enough money in your working life to retire.
    If you were involved in a costly and messy divorce, you should have thought more carefully about your choice of spouse to begin with.
    Taxpayers shouldn’t be liable to bail you out for your own financial difficulties. Just like they shouldn’t have to pay for your chemotherapy and home oxygen when you spent your life smoking.
    _________________
    Just when I thought C@t was callous along comes this douchebag.

  3. People pushing the get a job line don’t get that today’s labour market is about the employers needs not the job seeker so unless the job seeker matches the job requirements they wont just get a job.

  4. FUBAR

    “A male boxer has just injured a female boxer in the Olympics. Fucking ridiculous. So much for all the talk about gendered violence- it’s being supported by the IOC. WOKENESS and Identity Politics again.”
    —————————————————-

    On this one we are agreed. I just saw highlights of the match between Khelif (Alg) and Carina (Ita). I don’t like boxing at the best of times but this was sickening – a complete mismatch with Khelif having an obvious advantage of reach and power.

    It looks like the IOC has washed its hands of gender testing and left it to each sport. So now in boxing there is no testing, just reliance on athlete’s identity. They assume gender does not give an advantage. Yet in boxing it obviously does.

    This looks like a repeat of the Caster Semanya controversy but much worse. Stupid and possibly dangerous.
    https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-fact-check-did-imane-khelif-fail-gender-eligibility-test-a-look-algerian-boxer-s-path-paris-olympics

  5. C@T
    Are you actually speaking factually, Kirsdarke? You have a Masters degree, are 64, but were made to go into the job provider every day for 12 weeks to watch yoga videos and TED-talks from billionaires with trust funds!?! And the only job you were offered was stacking shelves at Coles, even though you have a bad back and a hernia!?! Really?
    —————————
    Kirsdarke sounds overqualified for the government’s job providers and that’s a big part of the system’s problem because it isn’t designed for today’s labour market.

  6. On the Voice.

    The Greens and Lidia Thorpe parted ways when the Greens accepted Labor was locked in with their strategy. That is the Greens compromised.

    The Greens were right to give the maximum push for success when the campaign was on. However Labor was wrong in its strategy as we know from the result. Something the Greens made clear. Maybe if they had listened to Thorpe on the Royal Commission of Black Deaths in custody there would have been a different result without the division exploited by the No campaign and Thorpe onboard the Yes campaign.

    We will never know but this is one example where the Greens can be proud along with the ACT voters of their Yes votes.

  7. ‘I have never felt a punch like this’: The 46 seconds that rocked the Olympics

    I’ll admit I’m not across the transgender sport issue, however I would think the only rational criteria to meet is … what is the chromosomal makeup of the athlete.. male or female, who gives a rats what you look like on the outside.
    The issue of testosterone levels should be looked as a doping problem not a gender issue

  8. Kirsdarke,
    Best of luck with a horrible situation. A well-wisher from France 😉

    And it is really important to remember that your employment situation is in no way your fault.

    There is structural unemployment in all employment categories. Hell, a PhD in astrophysics makes you almost unemployable these days (seriously – there are few jobs, unless you have high-level computing skills, and are happy to work in finance, and are a good fit for that role, which most PhD’s in astrophysics are not). Sheldon was so lucky to have a job.

    I guess it may have been that way for a long time. As Trillion said (Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) “After all with a degree in maths and another in astrophysics what else was there to do? It was either that or the dole queue again on Monday.”

    The world has drifted badly after the “great contraction” that saw the unemployment rate plummet to close to zero in the developed world, after WWII, and incomes become more equal between different classes and jobs.

    As the late great Tony Judt said in Postwar* “by 1970, homelessness was basically ended in Western Europe”.

    The “Great Contraction” stopped with the oil shocks of the mid-1970s, and apparently the failure of GATT, whatever that was? Our posters versed in economics can help here.

    And then, von Hayek, Milton Freedman and his Chicago Boys (a great name for a blues band, if they were not such murderous arseholes) had managed to get a foothold in economic theory, and had got the ear of one Rupert Bloody Murdoch.

    So Murdoch supported Thatcher and Reagan in 1979 / 1980, and the world changed, in a very bad way. No more “mateship”, helping out those doing it tough. It was a world where people were convinced that the unemployed were either “Welfare Queens” or “degenerate surfers”, living a life of luxury while the good honest (Christian white) people worked hard for every dollar.

    None of it was true, but it played well on the front page of the Daily Telegraph, the Herald Sun, the Adelaide Advertiser, the Courier Mail etc.

    So, Kirsdarke, stay strong, and remember it is them that is the problem not you.

    And as for the “training programs” that these profit-making job agencies force people to undergo, they are a complete rort. I have had friends who are highly qualified and highly-skilled forced to watch this shit. The “profit-making” job agencies take the amount of money that the Federal government allocates for training for each “jobseeker” and “spends it” on an in-house training program about how to use Excel or even worse shit.

    Grrrr, as my Jack Russell would say.

    I believe that Labor is planning to bring employment services back onto the public fold: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/private-employment-services-have-failed-watchdog-is-needed-inquiry-head-20231011-p5eben.html

    But that will take time, until ScoMo’s contracts with these parasitic “employment services” agencies expire in 2027.

    But Labor’s future plans do not help you now.

    For what it is worth, I always read and enjoy your posts. PB has become over the top adversarial lately, and so I skip through most posts. But you are on my list of “always-read”.

    *https://archive.org/details/postwarhistoryof00judt

  9. Skeptic

    ‘I have never felt a punch like this’: The 46 seconds that rocked the Olympics

    I’ll admit I’m not across the transgender sport issue, however I would think the only rational criteria to meet is … what is the chromosomal makeup of the athlete.. male or female, who gives a rats what you look like on the outside.
    The issue of testosterone levels should be looked as a doping problem not a gender issue

    Yep – this is a doping, or chromosomal problem – it has exactly nothing to do with gender fluidity.

    But the J.D Vance types will have a field day. Sigh……

  10. > what is the chromosomal makeup of the athlete.. male or female, who gives a rats what you look like on the outside.

    I do not support the chromosomal makeup as a measure of fairness. It is too broad.

    Target the things that give an adventage. If a cis-women has more testosterone then a trans-women is it fair to only ban the trans women for example?

  11. Scott 1 says:
    Friday, August 2, 2024 at 1:09 am
    On the Voice.

    The Greens and Lidia Thorpe parted ways when the Greens accepted Labor was locked in with their strategy. That is the Greens compromised.

    The Greens were right to give the maximum push for success when the campaign was on. However Labor was wrong in its strategy as we know from the result. Something the Greens made clear. Maybe if they had listened to Thorpe on the Royal Commission of Black Deaths in custody there would have been a different result without the division exploited by the No campaign and Thorpe onboard the Yes campaign.

    We will never know but this is one example where the Greens can be proud along with the ACT voters of their Yes votes.

    ___________

    And what was the choice of First Nations Peoples on the matter? Labor provided the opportunity that was asked for. The Coalition welched while they were in government. A Federal Government effectively spent their first term political good will in the process.

    The Greens are proud? Please be careful that ideology doesn’t result in paternalism.

  12. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. I’ve gotta say, the SMH and Age are bereft of interesting stuff today!

    The Greens’ Max Chandler-Mather is already ramping up pressure on Labor’s new housing minister, Clare O’Neil, just days after she was given the role, writes James Massola. At the centre of the debate are two of Labor’s signature policies – a Help to Buy program under which the federal government would contribute up to 40 per cent of the purchase price of a new home and a Build to Rent scheme designed to encourage investment in the construction of new apartments.
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/greens-demand-changes-to-back-key-labor-housing-policies-in-the-senate-20240801-p5jyd5.html
    Jesinta Burton tells us that today the trial begins in Linda Reynolds’ pursuit of vindication.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/western-australia/reynolds-v-higgins-trial-begins-in-linda-reynolds-pursuit-of-vindication-20240731-p5jxwk.html
    “Dutton praises Canada to sell nuclear plan. But does Ontario really have cheaper power?”, asks Graham Readfearn wo points out that the opposition leader’s argument is puzzling given Canadian provinces dominated by renewables pay less for electricity.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/01/peter-dutton-nuclear-power-plan-cost-price-canada-ontario
    The NSW casino regulator has beaten the casinos into submission, including mandatory cashless gambling. Meanwhile, the pokie club continue to enjoy the freedom from such regulations, making them a haven for money laundering, writes Tony Stolz.
    https://michaelwest.com.au/casinos-reined-in-while-nsw-pokie-clubs-ride-high-on-money-laundering-profits/
    There is reason to believe that genuine integrity reform – even just insistence on obeying the law – would have a big impact. Not just on the operation of the APS but on the Government, the Parliament and the Australian public, says Andrew Podger.
    https://johnmenadue.com/aps-integrity-reforms-could-have-a-big-impact/
    A kickback scheme involving union officials and a crooked businessman seeking CFMEU backing not only corrupted the union but may have undermined competition in the building industry, according to the scathing findings of a senior judge, report Nick McKenzie and David Marin-Guzman.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/judge-warns-cfmeu-bribes-distorted-wider-industry-as-investigation-hits-roadblocks-20240801-p5jydg.html
    Smuggling a bomb into Ismail Haniyeh’s room and detonating it by remote shows Israel’s intelligence and operational capability within Iran and represents a major failure of Iranian security.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/hamas-leader-ismail-haniyeh-killed-by-remote-controlled-bomb-in-his-room-in-tehran/news-story/b0a96edb7ce21d98134d14917a75c55d?amp=
    Chuck Schumer will introduce a bill in the Senate today to declare explicitly that presidents do not have immunity from criminal conduct, overriding last month’s supreme court ruling that Donald Trump has some immunity for his actions as president. The No Kings Act, which would apply to presidents and vice-presidents, has more than two dozen Democratic co-sponsors.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/01/no-kings-act-trump-immunity-supreme-court
    Trump and Vance’s misogyny and cynical identity politics mean Australians can’t ‘just chill’ about the US election, warns Paul Daley.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/02/australia-us-election-donald-trump-jd-vance-misogyny-identity-politics-ntwnfb
    Daring to question Kamala Harris’s black identity, Donald Trump is becoming more Trumpian – and playing into Democrats’ hands, writes Nick Bryant who says Harris’s superpower is bringing out the worst in Trump.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/kamala-harris-superpower-is-bringing-out-the-worst-in-trump-20240731-p5jy4m.html
    Trump’s usual sexist sneers don’t work against Harris – and to top it off, she’s laughing at him, says Emma Brockes.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/01/kamala-harris-donald-trump-democrat-candidate

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  13. An Australian judge at the Olympic surfing event has been sensationally sacked.
    Ben Lowe has been removed by the International Surfing Association after posting a photo of himself with Australian surfer Ethan Ewing and coach Bede Durbidge. All hail from North Stradbroke Island.

  14. The White House on Thursday trumpeted what it called a “joyous day” as Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and former Marine Paul Whelan were released as part of a major prisoner swap with Russia.
    The exchange of prisoners involved several countries in addition to the U.S. and Russia and comes after Gershkovich had been sentenced to 16 years in prison in what American officials called a sham trial. Whelan was arrested in 2018 and later convicted on spying charges that he and his family have denied.
    Here are five things to know about the deal. Biggest swap since the Cold War
    In total, there were two dozen people and seven countries involved in Thursday’s complex prisoner exchange. Russia received eight prisoners who were being held abroad on various charges, and released 16, many of whom were being wrongfully held or were severely sentenced for minor offenses.
    Three United States citizens and one U.S. green card holder were released in the deal: Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, former Marine Paul Whelan, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty journalist Alsu Kurmasheva and Vladimir Kara-Murza.
    Among the Russians released were Artem Dultsev and Anna Dultseva, who were being held in Slovenia on espionage charges and were linked to the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service. The pair pleaded guilty Wednesday.
    Mikhail Mikushin, who was arrested in 2022 in Norway on espionage charges and accused of spying for Russia, was released, as was Roman Seleznev, a Russian hacker and credit card fraudster who was sentenced to 27 years in prison in the U.S. after his detention in 2014.
    Five Germans were freed as well. In a statement, Biden credited Germany, Poland, Slovenia, Norway and Turkey with helping secure the deal and called it “a powerful example of why it’s vital to have friends in this world whom you can trust and depend upon. Our alliances make Americans safer.”
    https://thehill.com/policy/international/4806702-us-russia-prisoner-swap/

  15. Industry insiders, including two veteran building union linked figures recently interviewed by the commission, expressed concerns the FWC was “flying blind”.

    Instead of seeking a special commission of inquiry or the formation of a multi-agency police taskforce, the Albanese government vowed to implement a once in a generation clean out of the CFMEU via the appointment of administrators.
    _____________________
    It’s a ‘Claytons’ clean out.
    The clean out you have when you are not having a clean out.

  16. @Douglas and Milko at 7:05am

    Thank you for that. In my personal case I have an honours degree in science, but thanks to Abbott gutting the CSIRO I’ve pretty much had to compete with about 1000 other out-of-work scientists much more qualified than I am in every job position that’s opened up since then.

  17. Griff

    Lots and lots of people have to be careful about being paternalistic towards Indigineous people. Those that voted yes to give Indigenous people power in our society even if they disagreed with Labor strategy are not amongst them.

    Sorry to usse the word give as that sounds paternalistic but the constitution required giving power.

  18. @Lordbain

    Geology pretty much, but that’s not much use in Victoria since what they don’t tell you when you start is that you’re expected to move to a big mining area in outback Queensland, SA, NSW or WA afterward for a graduate level position and I wasn’t prepared to do that.

  19. Morning all. Thanks for the roundup BK, such as it is. Beautiful photo.

    “A kickback scheme involving union officials and a crooked businessman seeking CFMEU backing not only corrupted the union but may have undermined competition in the building industry, according to the scathing findings of a senior judge, report Nick McKenzie and David Marin-Guzman.”
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/judge-warns-cfmeu-bribes-distorted-wider-industry-as-investigation-hits-roadblocks-20240801-p5jydg.html

    It should be self evident that scams like this undermine competition and lead to higher building costs. If a builder thought their bid price would win without it they wouldn’t bother.

    Building industry inflation has been well above both CPI and average wage increases. Labour is the main cost in building so that doesn’t add up.

  20. Thanks, BK.

    Our sunrise was blue in the sky and white on the ground. It got to real -4.4 and apparent minus 7.7 earlier in the morning.

  21. BKsays:
    Friday, August 2, 2024 at 7:45 am
    [At least the sunrise kept me entertained this morning!]

    A cracker sunrise BK
    Had one here too.
    Must be going round!

  22. “ An Australian judge at the Olympic surfing event has been sensationally sacked.
    Ben Lowe has been removed by the International Surfing Association after posting a photo of himself with Australian surfer Ethan Ewing and coach Bede Durbidge. All hail from North Stradbroke Island.”

    _____

    This is ridiculous. Us North Straddie surfers are beyond reproach!

  23. Scott 1 says:
    Friday, August 2, 2024 at 8:05 am
    Griff

    Lots and lots of people have to be careful about being paternalistic towards Indigineous people. Those that voted yes to give Indigenous people power in our society even if they disagreed with Labor strategy are not amongst them.

    Sorry to usse the word give as that sounds paternalistic but the constitution required giving power.

    ________

    Labelling the Voice referendum “Labor strategy” disempowers the consensus of First Nations Peoples. They had this discussion and they arrived at a consensus. This is paternalism writ large.

    You listened to Thorpe. She was the one (of seven) that walked out of the Uluru Convention back in 2017 before she walked out on The Greens in 2023.

    But the referendum is over. Garma is happening now. Let us listen to what is said to move forward.

  24. That rocks Kirk; it is a bloody shame that alot of careers in science stm are based solely on mining in aus… when I was a tyke my heart was set on palaeontology… but one of the many reasons I was dissuaded was that all the fossils had been found…

  25. Libs are quiet on the obvious vote killer for labor.

    Election nears libs come out and say “a vote for labor is a vote for the greens”.

    That’s why labor needs to be well out of minority government territory in the polls.

    Looks like the west oz newspaper has some inside info two major news articles this morning on libs vote “ebbing” and Dutton not cutting through and no increase in seats coming in WA.Its behind a paywall.

  26. Kirsdarke @ #551 Thursday, August 1st, 2024 – 11:11 pm

    Yeah, while I mostly blame Morrison for his 5-year lock in jobseeker contract for this crap, C@t’s attitude really hurt me tonight, being like “Oh yeah?! What’s your circumstances?! Why don’t you just get out and go to work?! Why don’t you just stop being depressed and go and get a minimum wage job already?!”

    That was just fucking mean.

    I’m sorry, Kirsdarke, but you are being mean to me as well. I know you feel your own situation keenly but to absolutely, 100%, misconstrue and misrepresent what I was trying to get through to you, which was pretty much what Dr Fumbles told you to do, but put a lot better than I was able to, is yes, mean too.

    Jesus freaking christ, you know nothing about me and the hell I’ve gone through in my own life. I would tell you about it in minute, fine detail if the moderator would not accuse me again of ‘playing the victim’, and thus absolutely show you that I haven’t had it as easy, mentally or physically, as those in the peanut gallery here love to sneer about me. I have the physical and mental scars to prove it.

    But I’m not asking for sympathy, because I know I will never get it from the Greens’ supporters, and others who just want to denigrate Labor, and their supporters and facilitate support for Independent candidates.

    But I qualified for a DSP, and I hope you know how hard it is to do that. So even though I might look and act ‘normal’ to those who have met me at PB get-togethers, I have suffered and come back from the depths of depression myself. Just one example is the spinal stenosis I have from a fractured spine as a result of being kicked in the back by my late husband while I was on the ground cowering from his attacks. I could go on about the relentless physical, verbal and mental abuse my children and I suffered from him too. But I won’t.

    Suffice to say that the only way out of it all that I found worked for me, as a Pharmacist who could no longer stand and do their job, was to pivot to doing something else that I could do for extra money, which for me was walking and looking after dogs, because that doesn’t hurt so much, and minding people’s houses. What I was trained to do was no longer viable, so I had to rethink my whole life, mainly so I could support my kids after their father passed away.

    Anyway, long story short, Kirsdarke, I wasn’t trying to put you down, I was trying to, in my own obviously clunky way, buck you up, because that was the only way I found a way out of my own situation. I don’t think I’m better than everyone else, in fact I know I’m worse than most, but I was simply trying to show you the light at the end of the tunnel and the way to get there.

    Peace, brother.

  27. Rex Douglassays:
    Friday, August 2, 2024 at 8:57 am
    Anyway, boxing should be managed out of existence. Dumb ‘sport’.
    ____________________
    Yep, we could also add Horse and greyhound racing and a whole host of others that will go the way of Gladiatorial contests, Fox Hunts and Duck Shooting*

  28. Olympic boxing is a great sport Rex.

    But yeah, they have to figure out how to deal with gender grey areas. “They” being the administration and the boxers and the public.

    I have been a regular critic of how Semenya was treated. Clearly a woman but with naturally occurring high levels of testosterone. She was unfairly treated by the likes of Sebastian Coe who prefers women runners to be his kind of feminine. And preferably British feminine (I wont hold back, he was on a crusade). She was also unfairly treated by other competitors. So these sports do need to be careful to not judge a persons gender based on biased stereotypes and using testosterone levels as an excuse. If a woman has a natural advantage that makes her appear more ‘manly’, then so be it.

    That is not to say sporting bodies cant disqualify people based on gender. They absolutely must do so. They just need to do so carefully, fairly and figure it out toot sweet.

  29. Boxing might be brutal and perhaps should not continue, but it is not ‘dumb’. It requires a lot of training to be good at it. Ringcraft and technical aspects that are not easily apparent.

    It’s easy to swing a punch, but good boxers do a lot more than that, they compose combinations and footwork patterns, strategies and defensive techniques that are not easy to maintain while someone is hitting you. That’s why Boxing has long been called ‘The Sweet Science’.

    Call for it to be managed out, I’m fine with that, but don’t misrepresent it.

  30. Scott 1 says:
    Friday, August 2, 2024 at 9:02 am
    Griff

    To be clear I would have preferred success to saying in hindsight the Greens strategy may have been better

    ______

    You continue to see it as “Labor strategy” and “Greens strategy”. Where are those the Voice was for? Paternalistic much? I shall leave it there as the needle is stuck.

  31. A note for the whingers of the ilk …”What have Labor done since they have been in office?”….lot.
    Happy to see $350 knocked off my electricity account.
    Yes, and we do have solar and yes, I know this is a ‘paltry’ sum of money which will only by (plus/minus) 70 cups of coffee.
    Beats the $100 legs of lamb promised by Mr Abbott.
    Oh, and where is my (what was it Mr Abbott?) $500 a year “cheaper” electricity bill?
    And, I see Whyalla is still standing.
    Almost forgot, the bloody NBN is still shit to our neck of the woods.

  32. dave @ #592 Friday, August 2nd, 2024 – 8:51 am

    Boxing might be brutal and perhaps should not continue, but it is not ‘dumb’. It requires a lot of training to be good at it. Ringcraft and technical aspects that are not easily apparent.

    It’s easy to swing a punch, but good boxers do a lot more than that, they compose combinations and footwork patterns, strategies and defensive techniques that are not easy to maintain while someone is hitting you. That’s why Boxing has long been called ‘The Sweet Science’.

    Call for it to be managed out, I’m fine with that, but don’t misrepresent it.

    When you look at how sports need to protect its sportspeople these days, yeah, it is hard to justify. But this sport has so much skill and fitness and Olympic boxing far more so. With the protections already in Olympic boxing, and perhaps a few more regarding how many bouts per year etc and regular scans…. perhaps it can continue and I will feel better about watching it.

    I should say, I have never boxed.

    I’ve have been punched a few times.

  33. The danger for people on Centrelink income support payments is that when LNP are returned to power they will tighten the screws

    1. everyone on Basix card or similar
    2. enforcing “Mutual Obligation” working alongside crims on community work orders

    As Melbourne Mammoth noted the Mutual Obligation scheme assumes fit young unskilled layabouts when the reality is that 50% long term job seekers are unfit or have chronic [illness|injury], and over 50, are trained & experienced professional

  34. Scott 1 says:
    Friday, August 2, 2024 at 9:34 am
    Griff

    I see you are keen to use the label. To assume bad faith instead of good faith.

    Bye.

    _______

    Bye Scott 1.

    For what it is worth, I think you have a good heart. Just try a little to see the situation from a different perspective is all. Maybe this might help: https://au.reachout.com/relationships/allyship/how-to-be-an-ally-to-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-people . It starts with “Raise up our voices”.

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