Crying Fowler

A plan to move Kristina Keneally from the Senate to the western Sydney seat of Fowler looks set to solve one problem for Labor while creating another. Also featured: a Senate vacancy and a state poll from South Australia.

Before we proceed, please note a) the post below on electoral developments in California, Canada and Germany courtesy of Adrian Beaumont, and b) the fact that tomorrow is the day of the by-election for the Northern Territory seat of Daly, where the Country Liberal Party is defending a margin of 1.2%.

Now to the week’s big item of federal election news, which is that Kristina Keneally is set to be parachuted from her current position in the Senate to the western Sydney seat of Fowler, which will be vacated with the retirement of Chris Hayes, who holds it on a 14.0% margin. The Australian reports this will be accomplished by fiat of head office, without a ballot of local party members.

Moving Keneally to the House of Representatives resolves a difficulty arising from the 2016 double dissolution, at which three of the four elected Labor Senators were allocated full terms of six years, which will expire in the middle of next year. This includes two members of the Right – Sam Dastyari, whom Kristina Keneally replaced after his resignation in February 2018, and Deborah O’Neill – and Jenny McAllister of the Left. Since factional arrangements reserve second position on the ticket for the Left, either O’Neill or Keneally faced delegation to third position, which has not been a winning proposition for Labor at a half-Senate election since 2007. As reported in the Sydney Morning Herald, the power of O’Neill’s backers in the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association appears likely to secure her the top spot, although The Australian cites unidentified Keneally supporters saying she was confident of beating her.

The use of Fowler as a backstop for Keneally comes with the substantial difficulty that the electorate boasts the nation’s highest proportion of non-English speakers, in large part owing to the presence within it of the Vietnamese enclave of Cabramatta. As such, Labor appeared to have a promising successor lined up in Tu Le, a 30-year-old lawyer and daughter of Vietnamese refugees. By contrast, Keneally lives in a $1.8 million property in Sydney’s northern beaches. Le had the backing of Hayes and, according to another source cited by The Australian, would have won a rank-and-file ballot if one were held. The ABC reports senior front-bencher Tony Burke shares Hayes’ displeasure at the development, although it also notes that others in the Right felt Hayes “had no right to try to act as a kingmaker or name his replacement publicly”.

In other Labor preselection news, Tom Richardson of InDaily reports the South Australian Senate vacancy created by the death of Alex Gallacher last week is likely to be filled by Karen Grogan, national political coordinator with the United Workers Union and convenor of the state branch’s Left faction. According to the report, a Senate seat was set to pass from Right to Left in the factional deals arising from the abolition of the federal seat of Port Adelaide at the 2019 election. Gallacher’s death may have had the effect of preserving Steve Georganas’s position in the seat of Adelaide, which might otherwise have been used to create the requisite vacancy by providing a refuge for Right-aligned Senator Marielle Smith.

Also from South Australia, the Australia Institute has published a Dynata poll of state voting intention, although it was conducted back in July from a modest sample of 599. It suggests Steven Marshall’s Liberal government might struggle at the March election, recording 38% support to 34% for Labor, 10% for the Greens, 5% for SA Best and 12% for the rest.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. ALP does have a healthy supply of parachutes for Senator Keneally.

    I am not sure, why when you are in the ascendancy, you would gift a sense of division to your opponent.

  2. Biden administration sues Texas over six-week abortion ban

    The Biden administration is suing Texas over its six-week abortion ban, which went into effect last week after the supreme court declined to block the law’s implementation.

    Attorney general Merrick Garland confirmed the news at a press conference this afternoon.

    “The act is clearly unconstitutional under longstanding supreme court precedent,” Garland said.

    The attorney general warned that the law “deputizes all private citizens, without any showing of personal connection or injury, to serve as bounty hunters” to ensure the law is respected.

    “The obvious and expressly acknowledged intention of this statutory scheme is to prevent women from exercising their constitutional rights by thwarting judicial review for as long as possible,” Garland said.

    Joe Biden had previously promised that he would pursue a “whole-of-government effort” to respond to the supreme court’s decision, specifically looking at what tools the justice department may have to push back against the Texas law.

  4. Fess

    Stephen Duckett is right. It’s a business driven decision and must lead to more cases. Meanwhile, 7.30 had their pet epidemiologist (too early in the morning to remember names – the black haired woman with a white streak – who always supports Gladys) saying, with a lot of qualifying clauses, that it was the right thing to do and would work out well.

  5. Why am I not surprised at this? This is the govt who brought us the much-vaunted failure the COVID safe app.

    The federal government’s COVID-19 vaccination certificate can be forged using a widely known technique to bypass the protections against editing the PDF version.

    Finn Bailey, a software developer in Melbourne, stumbled upon the security flaw this week after reading about other publicised vulnerabilities.

    He discovered the government was relying on a “high-school grade permissions password” to prevent unauthorised people from being able to edit PDF versions of the vaccination certificates.

    This password protection can be stripped from the PDF by using a technique that comes up when googling “PDF remove password”.

    It’s then possible to change the name or vaccinated status on the certificate.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-09-10/covid-19-vaccination-certificate-can-be-easily-forged/100441774

  6. When it comes to COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy and religion, look no further than the United States, where white evangelical Christians are the most opposed, by a long way: 24% were classified as vaccine refusers in a recent US poll — twice the rate of the secular population.

    In Australia the role of religion has not been so clear. But now there is an organised backlash from conservative Christians in the form of a national petition called The Ezekiel Declaration. Started by three Baptist church ministers from Queensland, the declaration calls on the federal government to halt plans for a vaccine passport.

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/09/09/vaccine-passports-christian-backlash/

  7. lizzie:

    The news last night featured a full 12 minutes of celebratory, happy reporting on opening up, a bright summer etc. It’s as if nobody has realised that with high case numbers, this is going to be a disaster for the unvaccinated, just as what we’re seeing in the US at the moment.

  11. Well, if Victoria remains closed to NSW, “I stand with Dan”.

    @FlickReynolds
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    The animosity between State Premiers was on full display during the influenza pandemic of 1919, I have news clippings about it. This isn’t new.

  13. “My message to unvaccinated Americans is this: what more is there to wait for? What more do you need to see?” Biden said. “We’ve made vaccinations free, safe and convenient.”

    “We’ve been patient but our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has cost all of us,” he said.

  15. I thought a million bucks got you a run down hovel in outer Penrith down there.

    Have you seen Brisbane house prices recently? The madness is spreading.

  16. From William’s post above:

    ‘ Keneally lives in a $1.8 million property in Sydney’s northern beaches…’

    I thought basically anyone who lived in Sydney lived in a $1.8 million property.

    Five years ago, my son was renting a property in Melbourne which sold for $1.4 million. It was about as bog standard a house as you could get.

  18. ” Dr [Stephen] Duckett [health economist, director of the health program at the Grattan Institute,] believed the road map was purely business-focused with little consideration on the impact opening up would have on hospitals.

    “(It’s) very, very clear this plan has been developed by business,” he said.”

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/leading-doctor-reveals-big-problem-with-nsw-road-map-on-the-project/news-story/dacb93f09aec3f37d2cf1a2e134b5599

    We’re being railroaded into opening a month early because Money.

  20. Morning all. I disagree with the premise of this Grattan article. There is no sign the Liberals under Morrison are being blocked from climate action by the Nationals. The Liberals don’t want climate action either.

    Resources Minister Angus Taylor is a Liberal – he is the one who dreamed up funding a new gas plant in the Hunter Valley. Liberal opposition to climate change action has become entrenched since Abbott won power. Moderates like Julia Baird who might act are squeezed out of the party.
    https://theconversation.com/grattan-on-friday-morrison-is-wedged-between-biden-and-barnaby-in-forging-climate-policy-for-glasgow-167641

  21. zoomster @ #16 Friday, September 10th, 2021 – 7:28 am

    From William’s post above:

    ‘ Keneally lives in a $1.8 million property in Sydney’s northern beaches…’

    I thought basically anyone who lived in Sydney lived in a $1.8 million property.

    Five years ago, my son was renting a property in Melbourne which sold for $1.4 million. It was about as bog standard a house as you could get.

    Try $3.3 Million:

    https://www.realestate.com.au/buy/property-house-in-scotland+island,+nsw+2105/list-1

  24. Taylormade says:
    Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:37 am
    How hell is Keneally going to represent the seat effectively from the Northern Beaches.
    She needs to move house.
    ———————————–

    Lol Taylormade , same as the liberal/nats who supposedly do not live in the seat they represent

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  26. Taylormade @ #19 Friday, September 10th, 2021 – 7:37 am

    How hell is Keneally going to represent the seat effectively from the Northern Beaches.
    She needs to move house.

    Thank you for agreeing she will win the seat. 🙂

    And yes, there are plenty of places to live around there, I’m sure she’ll find one.

    Though, if you have any connections in the NSW Liberal Party, Taylormade, could you get them to make Lucy Wicks move from the North Shore, where her main house is and where she is getting her children schooled, to the Central Coast among the untermenschen whom she represents in the seat of Robertson, rather than just pretending she lives here (she owns a holiday house here)?

  29. The media keep writing that “covid zero is no longer possible”. With vaccines, it should be possible. Opening up is based around the assumption that vaccines will allow us to maintain low, stable case numbers. Just with lower restrictions, hence higher than zero cases, in some sort of tradeoff.

    If those numbers can be stable around some arbitrarily picked number like 1000, then they can be stable around some arbitrarily picked number like zero :P.

    You can’t have it both ways. Either it will be possible to get to zero by maintaining a higher level of restrictions while using vaccines, or zero is impossible and this virus so terrible that opening it up is “let it rip” even with vaccines.

    That’s not to say zero will be necessary or desirable, given vaccines also reduce the severity of the disease.

  30. Good Morning

    Forget about the price of the house. Keneally lives on the North Shore. LNP territory in the main.
    The first to open up while SouthWest Sydney suffers under Berejikilian.

    That’s the look Labor.

    The truth is that Labor is still overriding the locals to ensure the career of its “performers”.

    In the case of Keneally with her stint as Premier in the Obeid years it will be the argument of the LNP. Corruption overriding democracy. Not a good look for a party doing the whole ICAC thing.

    That’s the problem created for Labor.
    It may be a price Labor is willing to pay but be in no doubt as to how undemocratic it is and how bad it looks to party outsiders.

  31. Snap, Cat!

    They should quote the price of Frydenberg’s pile of bricks if we want to talk about wealthy MPs.

    And of course our PM lives in Kirribilli rent free, valued at $12.5 million years ago. It was originally purchased to be accommodation for visiting heads of state. As part of a salary package that would be worth $200K+ per year. The gardening costs over $100K per year. Meanwhile we are all still paying to get the Lodge maintained.

  32. Morrison’s bullshit about trade agreements being separate from climate agreements seems not to have bothered him with the EU trade agreement. Which has both.
    He is serving one useful purpose. Every time he opens his mouth he reinforces Australia’s vulnerability to carbon tariffs.

  35. guytaur,
    get off your high horse about where KK lives. She hasn’t even been endorsed to run in the seat yet! Until last week she was still a Senator whose patch covered those areas of Sydney!

  36. Raf Epstein @Raf_Epstein

    All I have heard is that today’s Covid number is similar to yday

    So in the 300s is my best estimate

    @migga says 8 days until we hit 70% first dose

  37. Cat

    I’d be happy if he took up residence at the Christmas Island facility, if he has a penchant for living in government owned property. The Morrisons could trade places with the Tamil family.

  39. Cat

    I am on no high horse. I said it may be the price Labor is willing to pay. That’s acknowledgement of all the political calculations. It’s the direct opposite of being on a high horse.

    You just don’t like the truth being told because you must defend Labor at all costs.

  42. Morrison has announced that a slightly modified version of ICAC will be implemented.
    The Lack of Integrity Commission will investigate and punish all instances where Morrison Government ministers behave with integrity.

  44. Guytaur

    I do not always defend Labor, oppose the lettuce wars on principle, and support the Greens’ climate policy.

    In this case though you can’t reasonably expect a political candidate in a city with real estate prices as high as Sydney to move houses before they know they have won a different seat. The cost would be so crippling only millionaires would be able to stand for parliament.

  45. Cat

    No. I am if I am condemning anything condemning the process. I have told you what it looks like to party outsiders and what I expect the character attack of the LNP to be on Keneally.

    I expect it because they have form.

  46. Matt Thistlethwaite’s (hard to pronounce) seat would seem to be the obvious one for Senator Keneally.

    He seems alright but he has been around for a bit and is hardly going to get to the stage of having a political biography written about him.

    However, Senator Keneally will know from her own experience in getting state pre-selection that those holding south eastern Sydney seats, state or federal, are somewhat araldited in.

  49. Socrates

    Which is why I started with forget about price and said instead look at where Keneally lives. Labor can’t attack Berejikilian over apartheid Sydney and then expect no criticism on the silver tails from North Shore theme from political opponents.

    This is real obvious stuff which must have been factored into the decision before it was made.
    Labor thinks it’s a price worth paying. That’s well and good. Just don’t kid yourselves about how it looks

  50. “@migga says 8 days until we hit 70% first dose”

    A day or two before that, I think, after achieving 1% increase in first dose yesterday and being 63.5% on Wednesday vaccinations.

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