Essential Research budget expectations polling

Mixed messages on the imminent federal budget, plus polling from WA on border closures and secession.

The most interesting poll of the day is YouGov’s Queensland state poll, which you can read about here, but we do also have some results from the fortnightly Essential Research poll courtesy of The Guardian, focusing on expectations for the budget. Fifty-one per cent of respondents expected it would benefit the well off and 30% expected it would benefit those on low incomes, but only 25% thought it would benefit them personally. Thirty-five per cent expected it would be good for the economy compared with 31% for bad.

More interestingly, 78% signed on to the proposition that now was a good time to “explore new ways to run the economy”, with only 22% opposed. Sixty-nine per cent favoured “direct investment by government in job creation and in projects with the objective of improving living standards” when it was offered as an alternative to “deregulation to encourage employment and tax cuts for wealthy Australians”, which some may consider a false binary. The full report should be out later today.

In other poll news, The West Australian has been dealing out further results from the poll of 3500 respondents that recorded a 16% swing on state voting intention to Labor – remembering that this was a poll of five selected marginal seats, and not of the entire state. The poll found support for Western Australia’s hard border at 77% with 14% opposed, and support for secession at 28% and opposition at 55%, with 17% somehow unclear of their opinion.

UPDATE: Full results from Essential Research poll are available on the website, although there isn’t the usual PDF file at this point. Regular questions on COVID-19 suggest a softening of concern over the past fortnight, with very concerned down six to 30%, quite concerned up seven to 52%, not that concerned steady on 15% and not at all concerned down one to 4%. Perceptions of government performance in response are little changed, with the federal government on 60% good (down one) and 18% poor (steady), and good ratings for state governments on 65% in New South Wales (down two), 45% in Victoria (down two) 69% in Queensland (up one), 83% in Western Australia (down one) and 81% in South Australia (steady), with due regard to the small sub-sample sizes here.

UPDATE 2: PDF file here.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. I haven’t scanned todays comments but I thought Credlin was excellent in her questioning of Daniel Andrews today. Clear, concise and testing. A lesson for Rachel and one or two others.

    I also thought Daniel Andrews was as strong as ever.

    A really good exchange.

  2. Not sure which CNN poll is this one but…

    Lindy Li
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    Men:
    Trump 49%
    Biden 47%

    Women:
    Biden 66%
    Trump 32%

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    #TrumpIsACoward #ChickenTrump

    #men are too stupid.

  3. Victoria
    It would seem a fairly straight forward issue. This is what we faced and this is how we came to implement our response. Yet finding out was more like getting blood out of a stone. Why should that be so for a supposedly minor issue ? It is important to find out what went wrong so that the next time someone is faced with such a problem they can avoid repeating whatever mistakes were made.

    That there were mistakes should not be a surprise.The time given between the announcement from the national cabinet to when it had to be in place was, in my opinion, insufficient.

  4. Rex

    I went back and watched the Credlin questioning. She was full of shit for 3 reasons:

    1. The telecommunications legislation she kept referring to relates to compulsory provision of phone records to law enforcement under a warrant. A request for the phone records of Andrews and the others had never been requested by the Inquiry – and Andrews said if asked, he would provide whatever.

    2. Credlin kept asking why Andrews hadn’t voluntarily provided his phone records ‘to clear things up’. Andrews said if asked, he would provide whatever, it wasn’t his job to steer the course of the independent inquiry.

    3. Credlin also demanded repeatedly that Andrews sack Crisp because he ‘changed his evidence about informing the Police Minister, which the Act said he must do’. Andrews listed the catalog of exemplary service and emergencies that Crisp had dealt with, and that were upcoming – and that he had total confidence in Crisp.

    Each of those lines of questioning were tediously long, repetitive, and based on ignorant assumptions.

  5. Victoria @ #1707 Friday, October 9th, 2020 – 2:48 pm

    Rex Douglas

    I didn’t see presser today. What type of questions did Peta Credlin ask.

    Very pointed questions regarding Crisps evidence and access to phone records between Ashton and person unknown about private security decision.

    There IS a cover up of who decided on private security, I’m convinced.

    I’m not sure that knowing who the mystery person is will change the way things will be done in the future, but it is important to have accountability. I’m 99% sure that Eccles would know the identity.

    I say good on Credlin for showing up and conducting herself so professionally – not sure Neil Mitchell has the stones to do the same.

    Daniel Andrews and Brett Sutton have been magnificent in my opinion, but something as big as this pandemic was bound to expose weak links in the system. Tragically there’s been a deadly cost.

  6. People are asking the question who is responsible for police not being at the coal face of the hotel quarantine. I have not seen anybody address the question of how many police would be required at short notice, and then on an ongoing basis. If police were doing hotel quarantine then they would not be able to be diverted to other roles due to inaction risks.
    Should the hotels have had 2 roving officers at all time, that would account for approx 220 EFT staff on an ongoing basis to provide 24 hour coverage for an indefinite period of time.
    To effectively guard the rooms and entrances I think more than two would be required so a very conservative estimate of 5 per hotel. That’s 10 percent of the Victorian police force and would still only be sufficient for an oversight role.
    Setting up a program such as the hotel quarantine was always going to be staff intensive at a time when current staff had already taken on additional compliance roles at airports and general compliance actions. In a perfect world the preparations for a future pandemic would have war games how to manage quarantine to keep out island safe, doing it from scratch to implementation in 36 hours was just asking for future problems.

  7. sprocket_ @ #1710 Friday, October 9th, 2020 – 2:58 pm

    Rex

    I went back and watched the Credlin questioning. She was full of shit for 3 reasons:

    1. The telecommunications legislation she kept referring to relates to compulsory provision of phone records to law enforcement under a warrant. A request for the phone records of Andrews and the others had never been requested by the Inquiry – and Andrews said if asked, he would provide whatever.

    2. Credlin kept asking why Andrews hadn’t voluntarily provided his phone records ‘to clear things up’. Andrews said if asked, he would provide whatever, it wasn’t his job to steer the course of the independent inquiry.

    3. Credlin also demanded repeatedly that Andrews sack Crisp because he ‘changed his evidence about informing the Police Minister, which the Act said he must do’. Andrews listed the catalog of exemplary service and emergencies that Crisp had dealt with, and that were upcoming – and that he had total confidence in Crisp.

    Each of those lines of questioning were tediously long, repetitive, and based on ignorant assumptions.

    Re 1 & 2 – she’s entitled to test the Premier on those points. I would do the same. Andrews was up to challenge as usual.

    Re 3 – Credlin was question whether Andrews had confidence in Crisp. Nothing wrong with that.

    Your bias is clearly showing.

  8. Not for the guy who has to clean up the mess. (Been that guy.)

    I said Fulvio I said petal I said Fulvio I said petal…

    If sweeping up some flowers is too tough a job, then sit tight and I’ll get a steaming hot cup of HTFU ready for you.

  9. Does anyone know if Credlin was confronted about the manner in which she was wearing a mask. How disrespectful of everyone else in the room as well as sending a terrible message to everyone who saw it.

  10. Assantdj @ #1719 Friday, October 9th, 2020 – 3:11 pm

    Does anyone know if Credlin was confronted about the manner in which she was wearing a mask. How disrespectful of everyone else in the room as well as sending a terrible message to everyone who saw it.

    Yes, Credlin today and Plibersek last night. As you say, disrespectful and terrible messaging.

  11. Problem with sending Credlin

    Credlin did not know the laws that Abbott introduced despite Credlin being in charge of Abbott

    Credlin repeatedly referred to the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act, meaning the inquiry would need a warrant to get that data.

    That is not correct. The mandatory data retention laws (passed by parliament in 2015 when she was CoS to Abbott) do not require law

    ————

    Sending Credlin backfired on the libs/nats propaganda corrupt foreign owned media unit

  12. Victoria @ #1722 Friday, October 9th, 2020 – 3:19 pm

    Rex Douglas

    Plibersek was in Canberra as opposed to Credlin who is in Melbourne.

    Plibersek was in the chamber where the rules are strict.

    There were stickers on the benches for each member to properly social distance, but Plibersek ignored it just to get her mug on telly. Very poor.

  13. https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/10/06/essential-research-budget-expectations-polling/comment-page-34/#comment-3492505

    Hiring private security to be involved in quarantine hotels is a decision that, whatever the decision is, requires close scrutiny, both because it involves the detention of people and a significant amount of public money. That fact it is taking so long for the inquiry to find out who made the decision is problematic. That there appears to be a very serious chance that the decision was not actually made by anybody thinking they were making the decision is extremely problematic and that should be obvious to anybody aware of this, regardless of how interested in politics they are.

    The media and people interested in politics do have to be interested in issues that voters not particularly interested in politics are not, otherwise they would not be able to provide the scrutiny of government required for a democracy and the quality of government would deteriorate. Berating the media and people interested in politics for discussing how a government is running is like berating a doctor for knowing about medicine.

  14. Rex Douglas says:
    Friday, October 9, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    say good on Credlin for showing up and conducting herself so professionally – not sure Neil Mitchell has the stones to do the same.

    —————

    Credlin didnt conduct her self professionally though , if she did , she should have known Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act

    She made a fool of herself not knowing it

  15. Scott

    Your post is ambiguous,

    The act in 2015 determines that telecoms are required to retain data for a specific period.

    Not sure what the confusion is

  16. Victoria says:
    Friday, October 9, 2020 at 3:28 pm
    Scott

    Your post is ambiguous,

    The act in 2015 determines that telecoms are required to retain data for a specific period.

    Not sure what the confusion is

    ———-

    Are you saying the guardian reporter PaulKarp got it wrong, that is where i copied it from

  17. Scott

    No I’m saying that it is not clear from your post, what credlin asked was incorrect.

    From my understanding if the inquiry sought phone records themselves, would they need a warrant. Whereas if police sought it, they would not need one.

  18. Okay I found this in the Guardian ………..

    One of the more interesting parts is that Credlin repeatedly referred to the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act, meaning the inquiry would need a warrant to get that data.

    That is not correct. The mandatory data retention laws (passed by parliament in 2015 when she was CoS to Abbott) do not require law enforcement (i.e. Victoria Police) to obtain a warrant to get those records. It was a major debate around the passing of those laws at the time that a warrant requirement would be too burdensome for law enforcement.

    The inquiry itself isn’t one of the listed agencies with powers under the data retention law, but Victoria police is and, as we reported, experts say Victoria police could use its powers to get those records, despite Telstra saying otherwise.

  19. https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/ulurustitch-up

    Channel Nine’s A Current Affair orchestrated and funded Pauline Hanson’s trip to climb Uluru last year, including paying not only for the entire costs of her flights and accommodation to tour the red centre, but also for those of her disgraced chief of staff, James Ashby.

    The Klaxon can also exclusively reveal that ahead of the Hanson stunt, Channel Nine paid thousands of dollars escorting around the country – including a sightseeing trip to Sydney – the indigenous woman whose group “approved” the far-right Queensland senator’s climb in August last year.

    Instead of dealing with the custodians and managers of Uluru, the Anangu Traditional Owners, who strongly opposed Hanson climbing the scared site, Nine courted and gained “permission” from a little-known indigenous group of 15 people – that has no official recognition and exists only on Facebook.

    Regardless, the indigenous woman from the “group”, which calls itself the “Anangu Mayatja Council of Elders”, who dealt most closely with Nine in its stunt – traditional owner Tjimpuna Ruby – tells The Klaxon that she and her group were gagged by the network.

  20. Credlin was incompetent in not knowing the Inquiry didn’t have the power , or she was there for propaganda , not for professionalism

  21. Nine/Fairfax (The Age) keeping the boss (Costello) happy with slanted language in headlines.

    Note “In a stinging rebuke” and “In its extraordinary final submission the Health Department claims”

    In a stinging rebuke, former health minister Jenny Mikakos has told the hotel quarantine inquiry to treat Premier Daniel Andrews’ evidence about private security with caution.

    In its extraordinary final submission, the Health Department claims there is no conclusive evidence to show Victoria’s second coronavirus wave started at the Rydges hotel.

  22. Yes, Dandy, but the flowers are full of juice, and it rains here in WA during the flowering season, and people walk on them, and cars squash them on your driveway, and they stick gooey-ly after the sun dies them out a bit, and you have to spend hours scraping them off before you can rake them, and my wife also has no sympathy and calls me princess when I complain – so I got the chain saw and solved the problem.

    But I still love their show when they flower in the neighbour’s garden, and I take delight in pointing out the gooey bits he misses on his driveway.

  23. It seems that Fox News viewers are displaying a darwinian tendency to being eliminated by the virus.

    Viewers who trust Fox News coverage more than CNN’s are slightly less likely to take preventative measures against the novel coronavirus and a little more likely to put themselves at risk, according to a new study published Thursday in the journal BMJ Global Health.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/08/media/fox-vs-cnn-viewers-covid-19-precautions-wellness/index.html

  24. citizen @ #1740 Friday, October 9th, 2020 – 3:10 pm

    It seems that Fox News viewers are displaying a darwinian tendency to being eliminated by the virus.

    Viewers who trust Fox News coverage more than CNN’s are slightly less likely to take preventative measures against the novel coronavirus and a little more likely to put themselves at risk, according to a new study published Thursday in the journal BMJ Global Health.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/08/media/fox-vs-cnn-viewers-covid-19-precautions-wellness/index.html

    It might depend on breeding rates. Could there be a net benefit in more but dumber??

  25. A few here are good at small truths….

    This year, The Saturday Paper and Aesop are pleased to present Small Truths, a new award for a micro-essay of merit. Writers are invited to submit micro-essays of up to 300 characters (including spaces) before November 9, 2020.

    Submissions to Small Truths should shed light on an aspect of contemporary Australian life – in a succinct, incisive format. The winner, selected by Aesop and The Saturday Paper, will receive $1000.

    You are encouraged to share your entry via thehorneprize.com.au/smalltruths. Tag @AesopSkinCare and @SatPaper using the hashtag #SmallTruths on Twitter and Instagram.

  26. Data updated 11.03am on Oct 9, 2020

    EXCLUSIVE
    FEDERAL BUDGET
    Two in three Australians will get at least $75 a week under PM’s budget
    Two in three Australians will get at least $75 a week under PM’s budget
    Most Australians will be better off under the Morrison government’s recession-busting budget, exclusive analysis of its key tax and welfare measures shows.

    48 minutes ago by Shane Wright

    I bet Mundo’s the one three who doesn’t.

  27. mundo
    When they say “will get at least $75 a week under PM’s budget” do they mean extra as in over and above what they received before ?

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