Essential Research has not allowed the long weekend to interrupt the fortnightly schedule of its polling, which continues to be limited to attitudinal questions. Conducted last Tuesday to this Monday from a sample of 1080, the most interesting question from the latest poll relates to Bridget McKenzie, whom 51% felt should have been stood down by the Prime Minister. Only 15% felt he was right not to do so, while a further 34% said they had not been following the issue. The question included an explanation of what the issue involved, which is always best avoided, but the wording was suitably neutral (“it is claimed she allocated $100million to sporting organisations in marginal seats to favour the Coalition”).
The poll also finds overwhelming support for the establishment of a federal ICAC – or to be precise, of “an independent federal corruption body to monitor the behaviour of our politicians and public servants”. Fully 80% of respondents were in favour, including 49% strongly in favour, which is five points higher than when Angus Taylor’s troubles prompted the same question to be asked in December. Also featured are yet more findings on Australia Day, for which Essential accentuates the positive by framing the question around “a separate national day to recognise indigenous Australians”. Fifty per cent were in favour of such a thing, down two on last year, but only 18% of these believed it should be in place of, rather than supplementary to, Australia Day. Forty per cent did not support such a day at all, unchanged on last year.
Note that there are two threads below this one of hopefully ongoing interest: the latest guest post from Adrian Beaumont on Monday’s Democratic caucuses in Iowa, and other international concerns; and my review of looming elections in Queensland, where the Liberal National Party has now chosen its candidate for the looming Currumbin by-election, who has not proved to the liking of retiring member Jann Stuckey.
Someone should ask Molan why the NSW state government has sacked hundreds of field staff from national parks and from state forests who knew their patches extremely well, who could have implemented fuel reduction burns had the not been sacked, and who were highly trained in fire fighting.
lizzie @7:38am
A couple of things here. The Liberals are being quite successful at providing support and succour to the denialists in the community. The Liberals are out-classing Labor here and its not accidental. They understand how to manipulate the community and reach out to their “base” and get them to be active and vocal. This was what Abbott brought to politics. He managed to get the lizard brains in the community to feel empowered and to get them to be noisy in their workplaces and communities. Labor isn’t doing this sort of thing.
Secondly. You don’t try and change the minds of the hard core denialists. Rather, you try to socially isolate them. You provide support (and information and organisational backup) to the well educated in the community. You empower them. You get them to be noisy. And you repress the lizard brains by making them feel socially isolated. Labor needs to do this in a thorough, professional, calculated way.
From today’s Crikey email, more brickbats for Scotty’s speech yesterday. 😀
Send them to kinder and let’s see what happens next.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-30/coronavirus-fears-queensland-four-tested/11912148
Boerwar
Easy , as Jim will tell you it is because there needs to be at least 75,000 to do the job properly and those bloody commie tree huggers are to blame for not allowing the required number.
Dont believe OC and his inner city lefty vegan fact checking. What would they know? Stick with whatever ‘truth’ makes you feel good.
Back in the early days of mass email forwarding and Snopes… I received an email from a mate about Tommy Hilfiger saying something racist. Snopes said nopes. So I emailed him with a very polite correction – and cc’d all on his email list.
Oh my! I got dozens of hate emails from people I had never met. My mate defended me – saying he had no idea if the email was true when he sent it and would certainly trust in my fact checking. It didnt help.
I just got the amended advice from school that children are not to go to school if recently returning from Hubei. 3 school days late. Someone needs a ball waxing.
Boerwar
I saw part of a Q&A that contained Molan some time last year. From memory he was sidelined as no one asked him much at all. I hope it will be the same on Monday night.
p
There is a NSW law against culling the feral horses. The number is limited by disease and starvation.
Someone should ask Molan what he thinks of Trump’s betrayal of the Kurds who fought ISIS with Molan.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Someone should ask Molan what he thinks of Morrison’s potentially fatal fiddle with Australia’s emergency fuel supplies.
“I trust someone on Q&A asks Molan how you do a fuel reduction in a rainforest.
Rainforests burned for the first time since 1788 from Queensland to Victoria.”
Easy, make use of the military and napalm them. 🙂 You know it makes sense.
imacca
Or go traditional an Agent Orange them 🙂
Confessions:
Those speech excerpts remind me of “The politics of failure have failed – we have to make them work again!”.
Boerwar
Regarding your kinder comment, I made the same point two days ago. How could the medical advice be sufficient for two state governments to direct that children potentially exposed to Corona virus should remain at home for two weeks, while the Federal government said it was OK? Somebody was ignoring advice.
And looking at this story, we can now see the full benefits of the current Australian government’s 19th Century attitude towards foreign affairs coming home to roost.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/30/coronavirus-australia-doesnt-have-permission-from-china-to-evacuate-its-citizens-from-wuhan?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlBVVMtMjAwMTMw&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTAU_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayAUS
More from Keane in today’s Crikey. I thought Whatshisname Nats leader on the news last night simply telling disgruntled high-scoring unsuccessful applicants to simply reapply was the very epitome if ‘let them eat cake’ self-entitlement.
caf:
I used to have a manager who used to say things like those Scotty phrases. We’d come away from meetings or presentations with her not having a clue what she’d been on about.
Two Big Lies in two days!
1. Morrison said that his Office passed on representations. Lie. They were heavily involved in the whole poltical corruption thing.
2. That CI was purpose built to handle ‘infectious epidemic’. It was built to concentrate human beings as per concentration camp and not to isolate them, as per isolation wards.
Morrison is ‘leading’ a rerun of the Lambing Flats psychosis.
From a resident of Dixon electorate.
This might be interesting.
Before the fires the Morrison Government was on the Chinese shit list. Ministers’ visits were frozen. Dark allusions were floated by the Chinese side. Selective de facto Chinese boycotts of Aussie businesses were in train. Aussie commodities mysteriously found all sorts of difficulties getting of the ships in Chinese ports.
Along came the floods, the fires, the hail storms, and the fires to distract Australians.
Then along comes the Morrison Government’s need to cut a deal to extract Australian citizens from Wuhan. For some mysterious reason best known to somebody or other, even Trump’s US can get its citizens out of Wuhan.
But not Morrison.
Make no mistake. This is another Morrison chook coming home to roost.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
For the health pros on Bludger: ‘Does 170 dead and 133 recovered mean anything remotely like a 50% mortality rate among ‘finalized’ cases?’
BW
They really need to be able to isolate everyone on Xmas island.
We know that the incubation period can be two weeks at least and that asymptomatic people can spread it.
That means if after two weeks, one person shows symptoms, the rest have to stay another two weeks. A process which could keep repeating.
They have no plan or infrastructure for that.
Dio
That sounds doable on CI. But if they are allowing self-flown peeps back in without isolating them (except for the entire Chinese woman’s basketball team in a Brisbane Hotel ) in the same way, is there much point in isolating the ones flown in by the Feds?
Boerwar
“Make no mistake. This is another Morrison chook coming home to roost.”
Exactly. We treat them disrespectfully and pander to the US while they are engaged in a trade war, despite China being our biggest trade partner and the USA having a trade imbalance with us in their favour. Then we wonder why China won’t help us.
We have been a terrible international citizen in recent years, shamelessly selling out the global and national interest to pander to a few far right voters domestically.
A somewhat terse discourse between John McEnroe and Neil Mitchell:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/australian-open/john-mcenroe-hangs-up-on-melbourne-shock-jock-over-margaret-court-question/news-story/b8a7e65a50b3da4db64eade2e1adc8c6
Dio
Ah. Your answer is already, virtually, no.
The grounds of Kirribilli are well fenced and guarded by the AFP. Perhaps we could erect a tent city for a few hundred people to be quarantined there?
Scomo won’t mind. All he cares about is the people.
The Yaouk Fire, having burned for well over a week, has finally jumped the road and is now less than 1km from the ACT border.
Boerwar @ #222 Thursday, January 30th, 2020 – 3:08 pm
Re #2, I actually heard someone on the radio (the Head of the AMA, I think it was), say that the main Xmas Is compound may not be suitable for isolation purposes but the Phosphate Hill compound should fulfill requirements.
Boerwar
Scrott also said it was a “joint” operation involving NZ as well. They seem to have fled from that idea at 100 mph . I can see a lot of Australians catching Air NZ .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/30/new-zealand-citizens-in-coronavirus-outbreak-wont-be-kept-on-christmas-island
The Orroral Valley fire has managed to jump into Mt Tennent. I had thought they had managed to isolate Mt Tennent.
The currently active fronts on this fire are now at least 30km long. 3 fire fighters have been injured by a falling tree hitting fire truck.
This caused fire crews to be ‘withdrawn’, paramount priority being firefighter’s safety.
One assumes that as of that instant nobody was actually fighting the fire except for the water bombers.
The water bombers have obviously been completely overwhelmed since day one. This is plain when the huge spread of the fire is taken into account.
Fire fighters are reported to be ‘creating containment lines’, ‘backburning’ and ‘patrolling’.
All this for a fire that has had very little by way of very windy weather but with dry fuel, hot days and warm nights.
The alert levels are wound back with alacrity.
It is all quite reminiscent of the faffing around that preceded the 2003 fires.
So NSW Labor is so vindictive they wouldn’t connect Emma up with a job somewhere …?
c@t
The point is not whether it is actually (accidentally) suitable.
The point is whether it was ‘purpose built’ for medical isolation purposes.
It was not purpose built for medical isolation purposes.
Dutton lied.
Simple as that.
Rex
Any one of the NSW, Vic, SA or Tas Greens organizations could pick her up. They all have serious form with bastardizing women.
It may be counterintuitive to say this but Scott Morrison probably believes that, even though he has succumbed to scandal after scandal after the federal election, that they are far enough away from the next election and are nothing that are great marketing campaign at the next election won’t fix.
C@tmomma @ #242 Thursday, January 30th, 2020 – 2:40 pm
And he’s probably right. Bushfires are already yesterday’s news. Today’s scandals and viral outbreaks will fade from memory just as fast. 🙁
I hope KK continues to expose the problems arising from this program. Morrison fans who think he is limiting migration are being conned.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/30/new-underclass-labor-warns-on-australias-reliance-on-short-term-migration?CMP=share_btn_tw
‘lizzie says:
Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:49 pm
@dingos1946
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“Australia’s reliance on temporary migration is creating a new economic underclass that risks having a “corrosive” effect on the nation’s society, Labor’s shadow home affairs minister, Kristina Keneally, says.”
I hope KK continues to expose the problems arising from this program. Morrison fans who think he is limiting migration are being conned. ‘
One of the key drivers of national wage stagnation, IMO.
BW,
Dutton is one glib and sleazy politician, who says to the viewers of Channel 9’s Today Show, on his weekly Friday spot with Anthony Albanese, exactly what he wants them to think. And that is the problem! He gets away with it for the very reason that a low information voter getting the kids ready for school on a Friday morning will know no more than what he tells them and just basically wants to be reassured that the government has everything in hand and THEIR kids are safe. Truth be damned.
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@MichaelPascoe01
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Replying to @gavmorris @InsidersABC
Hope there’ll be forensic questioning re exactly what the Cabinet Expenditure Review Committee knew about #sportsrorts – he was the Treasurer signing off on it – and the involvement of the Liberal Party campaign office. (If he uses any of the PM’s standard talking points, laugh)
Breaking: the Morrison Government has outsourced Australia’s humanitarian excision of Australian citizens from Wuhan to a private sector operater with an office on Kangaroo Island, accounts based in the Caymans and no prior experience with isolation procedures to:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=utube+of+spruce+goose
https://theaimn.com/scott-morrison-dazzles-at-the-national-press-club/
BW
The people from Wuhan would be at much higher risk of having the virus than most people in China.