The normally placid Essential Research fortnightly rolling average records a rare two-point shift on two-party preferred this week, which eliminates a settled 52-48 lead for the Coalition over previous weeks. Particularly remarkable is a three point increase in the Labor primary vote, from 35% to 38%, although the Coalition is down only one to 43%, and the Greens are steady on 10%. Also featured is a very detailed question on Senate reform, in which the legislation was explained to respondents in meticulous detail, producing a result of 53% approval and 16% disapproval. A question on election timing finds 56% wanting the election held later this year versus 23% who want it called early, although the distinction is an increasingly fine one. Also featured: most important election issues (health topping the list, followed by economic and cost-of-living concerns), best party to handle them (Labor for industrial relations and environment, Coalition for national security and the economy, although Labor has a slight lead on housing affordability) and perceptions of the parties as right or left wing (indicating Labor is seen as more centrist than the Coalition, although there is little sense that this has changed in recent years). This week’s poll was conducted online Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1017, with the voting intention numbers also including the survey results from the previous week’s poll.
Essential Research: 50-50
The Essential Research rolling aggregate records an unusually sharp move away from the Coalition, and finds strong support for Senate reform legislation.
Raaraa
And this beauty from Grattan
[Liberal MP sees him as motivated by hatred of Turnbull and going “full bore” to try to destroy the man who destroyed him. “This guy is going to blow up the place,” he says. Another Liberal parliamentarian describes Abbott’s latest action as a “huge strategic blunder” by the former leader.
The question now is how far Abbott is willing to go in his attacks on Turnbull – whether this has turned into a crusade for which the government will pay an increasingly high price in an election year. The cost to Abbott will also spiral if he persists – but what frightens some Liberals is that he may not care.]
Raaraa@950
You mean that hopelessly biased ABC program? 😮
Well fancy that!
Makes you wonder what goes on in his mind.
Some Lib supporters might probably remind him that the public might perceive him as doing a Rudd.
I’m sure he’ll find a way to justify that it is different.
Will, please define “a reasonable level of offensiveness”. I believe it was the lovely Kathy who introduced the term “charity fuck” into public discourse, after all…
Link
https://theconversation.com/abbott-turnbull-conflict-goes-nuclear-55659
Tom
[ Player one, when such matters are discussed it is usually a dedicated meeting. Bit hard to say I went to a meeting about a particular issue but I don’t know what was discussed.
Pell has spent a lifetime covering up, he still is.
So yes, I am in the “he is a liar” camp, but not in the “he is an excellent liar” camp. As said in the commission, his evidence is implausible. ]
I think the answer is probably not clear cut. Yes, I think it quite likely that Pell was present in such meetings, and knew exactly what was being discussed even though they carefully used the term “homosexuality” instead of “pedophilia”. But I also think it is true (as he has said) that he simply didn’t care about such things, and probably sat quietly in those meetings wondering when he would be able to get back to his “real” work of dealing with the church’s finances. This of course has ultimately saved his bacon, since he was never minuted as expressing a view one way or another – and he is clever enough to know it.
So is he a liar or a sociopath? Probably he is both.
When is the next poll coming out?
I gorged on popcorn generated by last week’s drama and I’m desperate for more. A poll with the ALP ahead would be a perfect catalyst.
befuddled
[ You mean that hopelessly biased ABC program? ]
We get it that you don’t get it. You don’t have to continue to demonstrate it.
Player One@958
You merely demonstrate your continuing status as one of the true mental midgets of PB.
Laughed my arse off after hearing today that the Greens were the pro refugee arm of the Liberal Party!
[I’m sure he’ll find a way to justify that it is different.]
How about: Rudd was pernicious, Abbott is just outright destructive!
Sadly history is repeating.
Bobalot
[ I gorged on popcorn generated by last week’s drama and I’m desperate for more. A poll with the ALP ahead would be a perfect catalyst. ]
With the Abbott/Turnbull feud escalating, this week looks like being even more entertaining than the last. So hopefully we will get a new poll next week which will show the ALP as clear 2PP leaders.
victoria@960
I did a spell of phone banking for my local candidate last night.
Only one person I spoke to mentioned climate change as an issue concerning them and they then went on to bag the Greens as ‘useless’.
I think we have probably seen peak Green.
Vic, they could equally-well be described as the pro-refugee arm of the ALP. Dog knows, both major parties need such an arm – though, yes, I do know of the electoral dangers.
Player One@963
Player One@958
Player One@963
One can only hope!
davidwh
It certainly is. Have to say though that Abbott Turnbull stoush is in a league of its own
Libertarian Unionist@961
Trying to invite comparisons involving Gillard?
Oh dear, someone has let befuddled stay up past his bedtime!
[
I’m sure he’ll find a way to justify that it is different.
]
He isn’t doing it for himself, or even the party, but for the country and future unborn generations.
Davidwh
[Sadly history is repeating.]
It appears so…at first as tragedy and then as farce 🙂
Dickhead One@970
Thus spake the village idiot.
BW,
[One of my kids saw an opportunity, sold it, and now over 3,500 solar panels are going onto the roof of a very big building.]
Nice work! You should be proud. Where about’s might I ask (state will do)?
I’m hopefully going to share some news of a similar ilk real soon.
[Trying to invite comparisons involving Gillard?]
Projecting much!?
Libertarian Unionist@975
How does projection come into it? If you want to slag off a former Labor PM, others are quite capable in returning the favour in relation to another former Labor PM.
Let’s hope that Malcolm gets so fed up with it all that he asks the G-G for a DD. Bring on the apocalypse, I say! Do the Samson in the Temple act, Mal! Really looking forward to voting, with a beaut new Senate system, on July 2.
The non-biased ABC referred to Abbott as “doing a Rudd”
Abbott and Turnbull in open warfare. Great stuff.
Vogon Poet@978
Quoting others I believe. I rely on second hand reports as I was out tonight and have not heard it.
The differences are of course stark.
For a start, Rudd was popular with the electorate and Abbott isn’t.
Rudd was replaced by a person whose incompetence showed itself from almost day one. He merely had to remain alive to be seen as a potential replacement.
[How does projection come into it?]
How about my comment had nothing to do with Gillard, or Turnbull, for that matter.
Oh Gawwwd – the Rudd v Gillard stuff is breaking out again. I’m outta here – may return in a day or three, may not!
Jack A Randa
Ignore bemused. He cant help himself.
victoria@983
As usual, I was not me who brought it up.
You seem to be the one who can’t help themselves.
[Bring on the apocalypse, I say!]
The napalm never smelt so good 🙂
bemused
help themselves doing what? Mentioning the name Rudd?
victoria@986
Slagging off a former Labor PM.
Which of course invites a response.
[Slagging off a former Labor PM.
Which of course invites a response.]
So let me get this straight. If I slag off Gillard you will defend her, correct bemused?
bemused
You can slag off whomever you please. Just as I and others are entitled to do the same
Abbott is probably delusional enough to believe he has a chance of pulling a Rudd and getting the top job back. But I imagine he’s also quite happy to settle for simply destroying Turnbull’s re-election chances and punishing the Liberal caucus for betraying him.
As for Bernardi, Andrews, Abetz et al, I would think their end goal isn’t really re-installing Abbott or punishing Turnbull and the party with an election loss, but rather discrediting Turnbull and his allies, forcing a leadership change (to someone very rightwing, but probably not Abbott), and ensuring the far right maintains control of the party after the election.
But whatever their various motivations, I sure hope they keep at it. Its looking like we will have some very entertaining months ahead of us.
Gary
Dont be silly. The only person who cannot be slagged off is the dud Rudd. although that aint gonna stop me
Gary@988
I would prefer you didn’t, but she has an army of deluded defenders.
victoria@989
Do it.
But don’t get all sooky if I or anyone else responds.
bemused
Do you think anyone gives a shit what you think of Gillard. We have been told ad nauseum what you think of her. That is your opinion. I and others have ours re Rudd. Get over it
[Which of course invites a response.]
You don’t ever get invited to the pub with mates, do you?
[The only person who cannot be slagged off is the dud Rudd. although that aint gonna stop me]
And nor should it. If people are such delicate petals they can’t cop hearing criticism of their man crush they should probably stay off the internet.
I wonder if Rex Douglas will turn up soon to remind us that Turnbull and the Coalition’s popularity will increase any time Abbott tries to publicly undermine him.
bemused
The only who is getting sooky is you.
One thing that was demonstrated at Johnny’s do tonight is that Turnbull is not popular with his party. He might win a battle against Abbott this time, with the help of the media, but will almost certainly lose the war.
Libertarian Unionist@995
No, we meet elsewhere.