UPDATE: Now we have Newspoll as well, and it’s Labor’s worst result since July: the Coalition leads 56-44 on two-party preferred, compared with 51-49 a fortnight ago, from primary votes of 32% for Labor (down six), 48% for the Coalition (up four) and 9% for the Greens (steady). The poll also has Julia Gillard’s lead as preferred prime minister all but vanishing, down from 45-33 to 41-39. Gillard is down two points on approval to 36% and up three on disapproval to 52%, while Tony Abbott is up four to 33% and down two to 56%.
GhostWhoVotes reports a Galaxy poll to be published tomorrow shows the Coalition leading 54-46 on two-party preferred. The primary votes are 35% for Labor, 48% for the Coalition and 10% for the Greens. Tony Abbott does unusually well on personal ratings relative to Julia Gillard, with 36% satisified and 57% dissatisfied against 38% and 57% for Gillard. Fifty-five per cent say the election should be held in September against 38% who want an election now. As is all too often the case with Galaxy, a further question seems to have been set as bait for anti-government headlines in the News Limited tabloids which publish the poll. In this case, respondents were asked if they believed Julia Gillard’s explanation for announcing the election date, rather than the more obvious question of whether they approved of her doing it. Trust in politicians being what it is, this came in at 53% for no and 41% for yes, which if anything is surprisingly high. The poll was conducted from Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1015, for the usual margin of error of around 3%.
UPDATE (5/2/13): Essential Research, reporting a day later than usual, has Labor down a point on the primary vote for the second week in a row, down now to 34%, its lowest since September. However, the Coalition and the Greens are unchanged at 48% and 10%, with the Coalition’s two-party preferred lead likewise steady at 54-46.
UPDATE (6/2/13): Morgan published a result from last weekend’s face-to-face polling while I wasn’t looking, and it has the aggregate major party vote returning to normal after a slump in the poll for the previous two weekends. Labor is up 2.5% to 38.5% while the Coalition is up 3.5% to 42.5%, with the Greens down 3.5% to 8.5%. That pans out to a slight gain for the Coalition on two-party preferred, extending their lead from 50.5-49.5 to 51.5-48.5 on respondent-allocated preferences and reversing a 50.5-49.5 deficit on the previous election measure.
Bemused dont be silly now ….
The gay abandon you describe put in a school hall at my kids school. It was the first time in 20 years the school was able to to have all 1100 students in one assembly under cover.
Prior to that much teaching time was wasted repeating the same assembly Four times.
Now the school has moved it’s music lessons from outdoors to indoors, there are new programs for debating, drama, music and sport.
The hall is also a new voting venue and community hall being host to many extra curricular activities. It boasts solar energy and low energy lighting as well as its own water tanks.
The 20yr old classrooms had their first refurbishment, including adding airconditioning and smartboards.
Hanging for the next global financial crisis so we now enter the information age in a meaningful way with the introduction of the fibre optic to enable innovative teaching programs. Oh, wait that would be the NBN.
Rossmore@6300
Stop being obscure.
In the 2010 election it was obvious to me that Labor supported Carbon Pricing. Comments by Julia Gillard and others (as I remember) said as much. But at the time they seem to have ‘bottled out’ of doing anything much in the coming term (I vaguely recall something about a council of 150 citizens). On the other hand, the Coalition was divided on the issue of Global Warming, with a majority apparently having decided it was a socialist plot. Before the Coalition realised that they could convince many voters that there was no problem, they flung together their ‘Direct Action’ plan and pretended to be committed to the 5% reduction in Carbon emissions by 2020. A question for the non-believers on the Opposition benches is why they say they will spend billions of dollars on a plan to fix a problem most of them don’t believe exists.
Of course, they are either lying about the cost of the plan or they are lying about their commitment to the bipartisan target.
danny le roux
yes, I know they existed, but I don’t know what mechanism they used, because (my understanding is) the Constitution is crystal clear on this.
It might be simply that noone bothered to take it to court to test it — that happens!
Or that – as with the extra payments to rural students – they found another way around it, by calling it something else…
Scringler
Obviously there are infinite variations but I was taught in Florence to use carrot and celery. And white wine instead of red.
Marcella Hazan adds a little milk at the end which works really well despite sounding disgusting.
danny le roux
just occured to me …. might have something to do with NT not being a State.
z
Perhaps territories dont count in the same way as states?
Zoomster there used to be a zonal rebate. I know it applied in the 70’s & 80’s when we operated a meat works in Mt Isa.
dany le roux
You used to be able to claim on your tax return a remote allowance if you were more than 100 miles from the next post office. Your town may have a post office but if the next one was more than 100 miles away you could claim. Not sure what the story is now.
Diog
don’t do that.
Bemused, you’re a one trick pony, with a one track mind, endlessly spruiking for a Rudd return. Is that obscure?
Still around, was just out for a while.
1. The BER – I have seen first hand how money was spent, but not time and staffing was actually implemented by the government. One of my mates is a teacher, and told me that he saw canteens without doors, and other general incompetence, that had to be done away with and restarted.
2. The carbon tax and surplus – whether or not you think of them as good/bad, needed/not needed etc…., the fact is that they were blatant lies.
3. Tony Abbott never supported the carbon tax, that video needs to be watched in context.
If it was something you could claim, rather than a different rate of tax, then that would fit into what I mean by ‘calling it a different name’.
Rossmore
bemused is so transparent!
Good evening Libs, the normal Labor types like Bemused and Team Gillard.
Back from dinner with a Lib (now ex lib) of mine 🙁
My mate disclosed that he is not voting Libs to ensure the NBN gets to his house. I naturally said not to worry, there will be to much of it in the ground to rip out by the time the election come around and it will continue.
We both agreed it was one of the best things the Kevin Rudd government had done.
Matty D
There is no carbon tax .So please explain your wild “carbon tax” claim ?
Matty
1. Such repairs would have been done at the contractors’ expense. Alas, despite the Liberals’ belief in private enterprise, not all small businesses run their operations effectively.
When I was on council, we were always having to chase up private contractors to come back and finish jobs properly. It was their incompetence, not ours, that caused the problems.
2. See explanation of the meaning of the word ‘lie’ above. Or get a dictionary.
3. He certainly supported an ETS, as he was a candidate for the Liberals in 2007 and as such campaigned for one.
Rossmore@6311
I think you have an over-active imagination.
Most of my recent posts, with one exception, were trying to educate a young Tory.
The exception was a response to a BS post from confessions.
On the subject of blatant lies, I think Tony Abbott knows that his promise to turn back the boats is bullshit. After all, he refuses to raise it with the Indonesians. He’s lying about that. And unless he and Joe Hockey are economic illiterates, he’s lying when he says a Coalition government would have run a surplus this year. He’s lying about either his intention to implement ‘Direct Action’ or his commitment to the 5% emission target. In the middle of last year the Coalition tried to encourage businesses to jack up prices and blame it on Carbon Pricing. And of course Mr Abbott is on record as saying you can’t believe any commitment he makes unless it’s in writing. Why would anyone trust him further than they could throw him?
[ Tony Abbott never supported the carbon tax, that video needs to be watched in context. ]
Ah! there’s that wonderful “context” again!
So many LNP distortions, misrepresentations, back flips, back downs, about faces and downright lies conveniently vanish when viewed in the right “context”.
If you ever think you have caught them out, you haven’t really – you just have the wrong “context”.
Matty D, a bright future awaits you at Menzies House!
Rudd copping a bit of stick on twitter:
[havetheynobrains? @laurieload
@KRuddMP Please be an honest team player. Coz if you jeapordise #ALP again this election & TA wins, Australia will blame you. #UNFORGIVABLE]
And there are others with similar messages.
[Matty D, a bright future awaits you at Menzies House!]
Or anywhere else a long way away.
It is as plain as the nose on your face to get the ALP polls up Sack Gillard and Re-instate Kevin Rudd NOW
Matty D
You have not answered my two earlier questions, so here thay are again for you to have a go.
[bemused
Posted Saturday, February 9, 2013 at 10:32 pm | PERMALINK
Matty D@6264
I am not touchy, and I do have evidence. Labor can’t even achieve a surplus today, even though it was promised over 500 times, and look at all of the school halls and canteens on which money was just thrown with reckless abandon.
Would you care to explain the inherent virtue of a surplus?
Were the audits of the BER program that showed in the overwhelming majority of cases value for money was obtained wrong?]
Steve777@6319
No, no! You have it all wrong.
Tony has been “forthright” with the Indonesians, “aspirational” with his surplus promises, “pragmatic” regarding Direct Action, and “realistic” on Carbon Pricing.
It’s all about the “context”, you see. Matty D can probably explain it better.
Player
and note the double standard – we have to view Abbott’s statements on a carbon tax ‘in context’ but ignore the context in which Gillard said she wouldn’t introduce one.
Well, the context of that was that she said, to two senior journalists, that she wouldn’t impose a carbon tax but she would price carbon.
Neither of those journos (despite both of them pontificating about it later) said wtte of “Stop right there, Prime Minister! If you’re putting a price on carbon, then that will effectively act as a tax – so doesn’t that contradict what you’ve just said about a carbon tax?”
And the reason they didn’t was that, at the time, it was absolutely crystal clear to them that there were two different things under discussion and – whatever the flow through effects – a price on carbon was not a carbon tax.
Player One
Yes indeed and he will deliver all his promises as promised “When it is the right time to do so”.
It was in Darwin Poroti.
Perhaps there were special zone allowances for territories then because there were no democratic representatives only an administrator .
I think there would then have been a federal minister responsible for territories instead of elected reps in a parliament.
People I knew from school who worked for Oz in PNG also had zone allowances.
The agreements which accompanied the federal constitution with regard to free trade etc. perhaps applied to states but not territories.
dany le roux
Darwin would have been a pretty wild place back then.
And what is ‘Direct Action’ anyway. Mr Abbott and his colleagues never talk about it. Is it something about paying polluters to suck Carbon out of the coal and oil before they burn it? Who knows? There is something about it on the Liberal Party website for anyone who could be bothered looking it up. It’s not without merit as far as it goes, but no credible commentators think that it would take us anywhere near committed targets unless it is greatly expanded. Sending some happy campers out with a song in their heart to plant a few trees won’t cut it.
poroti
my grandmother was reportedly the first white woman in Katherine (late 1920s).
Grandpa told her proudly on the boat up that he had built her ‘the best house in Katherine’.
When she saw it, she sat down and cried.
It was the best house in Katherine, but.
[ Obviously there are infinite variations but I was taught in Florence to use carrot and celery. And white wine instead of red. ]
Yes, that makes sense. Carrot and celery is a good combination. Almost Swiss.
My dish is for the cold nights, when the freeze comes down and interferes with personal bits.
Under those circumstances, I often opt for offal. Bits of beasts, slow cooked. Can’t go wrong.
zoomster
[It was the best house in Katherine, but.]
😆
I have no evidence for this apart from my faulty memory but I know PMJG said many times through the 2010 election “we will put a price on carbon”. She said it in the Presser with Kristina Keneally at Parramatta when they announced the Parra/Epping Rail link and on several other days. I remember it because she said it each time with the emphasis on the word “will” and It was annoying. I was in no doubt that Labor wanted to price carbon.
[ and note the double standard – we have to view Abbott’s statements on a carbon tax ‘in context’ but ignore the context in which Gillard said she wouldn’t introduce one. ]
Of course! Only LNP politicians really understand the nuances and subtleties of “context”. Fortunately for us lesser mortals, there is the OM – always willing to explain the “context” to us. Why, without that, some LNP statements would appear to be incorrect, contradictory or downright ridiculous!
Labor politicians on the other hand are just naturally uncouth. They generally just say straight out what they mean and then expect people to understand them without having the “context” explained. How unsophisticated!
Darwin was full of people who were on the run from the southern states. There were also a lot of Germans ( mainly apprentices) working to get enough $A to continue there gap years in cheap countries starting with Timor. There was surprisingly very little crime but large amounts of cheap hashish.
Back in Sydney when the cyclone hit one German came to my place to look at the destruction on my (rare) colour TV and this where I first encountered the idea of “shadenfreude” even though I did not know the word.
The place was hated a bit for being a hellhole.
Bailleau cuts police support staff
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I was told by a serving police officer yesterday that despite all his talk of improving police services,
Bailleauu is offering voluntary redundancies to 500 police “support staff” who do much of the paper work in police stations
…This will mean less suppoprt for police in stations and less time to go out on the beat The move is said to be very unopopular with the cops and will be with the public when they realise the implications .
Are there any other Victorian PBers with info on this story which Bailleau would rather like to hush up.
6307
Correct. Territories are not included in the differential tax ban as they have their own subsection of section 51 and the differential tax ban is section 51 subsection ii gives the Commonwealth the power to legislate in relation to tax except where it differs between states or parts of states.
[Matty D
Posted Saturday, February 9, 2013 at 11:09 pm | Permalink
…
1. The BER – I have seen first hand how money was spent, but not time and staffing was actually implemented by the government. One of my mates is a teacher, and told me that he saw canteens without doors, and other general incompetence, that had to be done away with and restarted.
]
Economies around the world were tanking, the government needed something fast, they built school buildings and give you 800 dollars to spend.
I have never seen such ungratefull crap as the crap that comes out of people that have never had the decency to thank labor for what they did to keep our economy ticking.
“I had a mate who was a teacher who said a door was left off”, what codswollop.
6338
The Victorian Coalition deserve the police going on strike over this (I am not saying the Police should strike).
Phil Vee
Even the OO reported it before the election.Funny how all their journalists forgot it the instant Labor was returned.
[JULIA Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term]
.http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983
[ Philip Fox
Posted Saturday, February 9, 2013 at 11:25 pm | Permalink
It is as plain as the nose on your face to get the ALP polls up Sack Gillard and Re-instate Kevin Rudd NOW]
Rudd is getting sillier and sillier, he just needs to get over himself.
Lynton Crosby emerges from the swamp
[Since Lynton Crosby was named as David Cameron’s new campaign expert last autumn, speculation has been rife as to what his methods will do for British politics. Paola Totaro is granted a rare interview with the man Boris Johnson (a client) calls the Wizard of Oz.]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-wizard-of-oz-camerons-controversial-campaign-strategist-grants-a-rare-interview-8483770.html
Watching Rudd on the news this evening crapping on about his call for continuing inquiries on swearing-gate my GF, who is politically neutral said, “I just wish this guy would go away.What a pest.”
What is he playing at?
Good night, Bludgers, thanks for the company.
+++
Confessions,
It is my melancholy duty to inform you that the electronic weather station, dubbed the Hocklet, MK 2, has evicted its guts.
Seems to be in some sort of lunar spin. Fails to greet guests. Can’t fathom sums.
It sits, display flashing, telling me nothing of any substance. Should I have it put down, I ask myself.
Scringler
g’night Scringler.
Poroti yes legislate a carbon price but only after community consensus and to come into effect after 2013. She specifically ruled out a carbon tax. People can spin things how they wish but the PM failed to honour that commitment and paid a high price personally and electorally.
[3. Tony Abbott never supported the carbon tax, that video needs to be watched in context.]
MattyD. Read, Weep.
http://www.tonyabbott.com.au/News/tabid/94/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/7087/A-REALISTS-APPROACH-TO-CLIMATE-CHANGE.aspx
Henry
[What is he playing at?]
I thnk you know the answer to that