The weekly Roy Morgan series continues to record a narrowing in what has always seemed an implausibly large Labor lead, the latest headline two-party result being 54.5-45.5, slightly in from 55-45 last time. Both major parties are unchanged on the primary vote, the Coalition at 35.5% and Labor at 35%, with the Greens down two points from a spike last week to 12%, One Nation steady at 4.5% and the United Australia Party steady at 1.5%. Applying 2019 preference flows to these factors, as opposed to Morgan’s respondent-allocated flows, produces a result in Labor’s favour of around 53-47.
The state breakdowns have Labor leading 55-45 in New South Wales (out from 53.5-46.5, a swing of around 7% compared with the last election), 60-40 in Victoria (out from 58-42, a swing of around 7%), 61.5-38.5 in South Australia (out from 58-42, a swing of around 11%) and 64.5-35.5 in Tasmania. The Coalition leads 54.5-45.5 in Queensland (out from 51-49, a swing to Labor of around 3.5%) and 54.5-45.5 in Western Australia (out from 51-49, a swing to Labor of around 1%). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1393.
As reported in the Financial Review today, a not dissimilar set of voting intention figures in the Ipsos poll that was published yesterday derives from distinctly different state breakdowns. Going off 2019 preference flows, the Ipsos results are similar insofar as they credit Labor with leads of 58-42 in Victoria (compared with 56-44 in the poll three weeks ago) and 65-35 off the particularly small sample in Tasmania. However, Ipsos has Labor’s leads at 52-48 in New South Wales (53-47 last time), 55-45 in South Australia (62-38) and fully 59-41 in Western Australia (54-46 last time), along with a 50-50 result in Queensland (54-46 to Labor last time).
Sample sizes are such that all state breakdowns are to be treated with considerable caution, with the partial exceptions of Ipsos’s results for New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland, which respectively have sample sizes 756, 584 and 448 and error margins of 3.7%, 4.3% and 4.9%. This is even more so in the case of the Morgan poll, whose national sample of 1393 compares with 2302 from the Ipsos poll.
954 comments on “Roy Morgan poll and Ipsos state breakdowns”
53-47 seems to be the settled result thus far. If it stays that way until after the election I’ll be happy.
I wouldn’t call it herding because the numbers are still jumping around and mainly higher for Labor. Just don’t go lower please! 😀
Excellent results in all the polls. Just needs to stay that way.
Change is in the air.
Header says big swings in big three states, but both polls showing previous Labor swings in Qld disappearing. Am I reading that wrong?
Another stunt backfiring for Morrison. And I love the headline ‘While Morrison played with macarons, Labor walked straight into the Coalition’s favourite territory’.
Yes C@t, it does look like a clear pattern is emerging.
James Massola must be a conduit for those in Labor who are still trying to derail the campaign of Anthony Albanese. *cough* Bill Shorten:
I can see a point to it. After 2019 no one in Labor wants to highlight Bill Shorten to the electorate again and cause a negative backlash. Not to mention the role he played recently in attempting to derail the Labor campaign just prior to the election after the death of Kimberley Kitching. I wouldn’t want him around either. He should think himself lucky to possibly be given a Ministry if Labor wins.
As for the others, well Education, Tanya Plibersek’s role, isn’t being given prominence in the campaign, but, she is doing a lot of work on the ground. A good use of her time I would have thought.
I imagine Ed Husic is spending his time on the ground making sure Labor’s ‘Red Wall’ in Western Sydney doesn’t fall, as the Coalition is trying to make it do. Again a good use of his time, he’s very popular there.
I don’t know, I think this article isn’t seeing the big strategic picture and it seems to me like a sophisticated use of the MPs, if anything.
C@t, I reckon it’s settled on 54-46 atm. Unless the 53 in Newspoll is a particularly weak 53.
Essential may change my mind.
Morrison came across as very angry on ABC news last night. The smirk has gone. It was a long grab, bullshit from one end to the other.
I heard shorten on radio about a week ago. It reminded me how useless he is off the cuff. Ummmed and ahhhhed his way through important answers. Clear, concise and charismatic he was most certainly not.
I’m not unhappy with Labor’s choices of spokespeople, with the exception of Marles who is a dreadful communicator. But as the deputy leader he can’t exactly be shoved into a closet like the Nationals do with their leadership.
Jan @ #NaN Wednesday, April 27th, 2022 – 6:15 am
Hope you’re feeling better today than you were yesterday, Jan. 🙂
Well, I’m off to interact with the marauding masses at a street stall at the local shops this morning. I’ll probably have a better idea of which way the wind’s blowing after that. First day back at school for NSW.
I see Shorten operative Peter Khalil has taken over Kitching’s spot on IPAC.
Stephen Koukoulas @TheKouk
Ahead of the CPI, stocks getting smashed, AUD 0.7125, bond yields rallying a little more.
Peter Khalil is an outstanding contributor to Labor’s foreign policy brains trust with extensive real world experience. A good choice by Labor, imho.
Jennifer Hewett speaks plainly about the Coalition’s difficulties behind the AFR paywall:
“ But Morrison has a particular problem with women voters as well as with traditional moderate Liberal voters in inner suburban seats. He is also a major reason behind the Climate 200 campaign of female “teal” independents getting so much traction campaigning on climate change and integrity in government in supposedly safe Liberal seats.
So it’s not surprising Morrison is travelling anywhere but these same electorates, just as his image is nowhere to be seen on all the Liberal corflutes and posters trying to compete with the avalanche of signs for the independents. The prime minister is too much of a drag on the Liberal vote in what has become a desperate fight for survival by individual MPs suddenly keen to stress their own independence from Morrison.”
However Newspoll is proving to be reliable with perhaps a slight underestimate of alp 2pp (iirc) and that ispos is a big poll, importantly a good sample in QLD. The concern is the late dump of anti ALP Palmer millions and some desperation from Morrison and Murdoch.
using preference flows from that PTSD 2019 election should buffer somewhat from polling day shocks.
Amazing game of soccer about to finish.
The lib/nats and their corrupt propaganda media units are stuck in 2010-2013 era
Australians do not need another repeat of lib/nats Abbott,Turnbull.Morrison incompetences
The lnp primary is down 4% from the same period on 2019.
Coalition are out to 2.25-2.40 and the lnp are infighting.
63.5% chance of a labor majority and they should win between 78 and 90 seats.
I am mostly following this campaign vicariously through the posts on this site.In the past I would have watched ABCs coverage but makes me too angry now. Thanks to ( nearly) all on here and BK for his daily wraps. I do try and avoid reading the immature and pointless provocations of Freya though, if we all do that he/ she might go back to the IPA echo chamber.
I should add to my concern list the return of a recovering Albanese to the hustings with some uncertainty around his performance level and that there is still a depressingly long way to go.
Same except for the anger. I’m mostly just bored with the election campaign coverage. If ever the horse race analogy applied to an election, in my view it’s to this one.
Chris Uhlmann pushing the ‘must be a hung Parliament’ barrow, and some unnamed ‘Labor strategist’ is pulling his chain…
But here is the risk. If the moderate Liberals hold on, outside the inner-city bubble the media campaign against Deves is being received very badly. In the suburbs and the regions, the vast majority are in her camp. As one Labor strategist said, “this is not a 60/40 split, it’s 90/10 in Deves’ favour”. That could push more preferences from One Nation and United Australia back into the Coalition’s column.
Imagine that. If the moral outrage of the constantly offended elite unwittingly delivered Scott Morrison victory. Be careful what you wish for.
Thanks C@t. Yes. Yesterday things improved. 2 rough days and nights but unlike a flu I don’t feel as wrecked coming out of it. Still some night sweats and persistent headaches.
I hope I don’t get the lingering effects GG is suffering as I have some physical regional work coming up in the weeks to come.
In the SmearStralian…
Seven firms as debate favourite for next leaders debate
The Seven Network appears all but certain to stage the second campaign debate between Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanese, moderated by Mark Riley next week in Sydney.
What media campaign against Deves? The ‘campaign’ against her is coming from the Liberal party!
There will be no lib/nats minority or majority government with a combined primary vote under 40%
Thanks for the news of Peter Khalil’s appointment – his Wiki entry gives much hope for a rational and nuanced foreign policy post-election.
Seconding Prince Planet – I have not put on the TV yet during this campaign – particularly the ABC raises my blood pressure dangerously. BBC World Service and ABC News radio provide a nearer impartial world view.
We have started receiving emails from LNP guy claiming the ALP are lying about the Indue card.
Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:20 am
We have started receiving emails from LNP guy claiming the ALP are lying about the Indue card.
if Labor were lying , Why haven’t the Lib/nats got rid of the indue card
Sorry, but Chris Uhlmann is so full of shit, my own bowel movements have greater insight.
How on earth would he be able to back up the “this is not a 60/40 split, it’s 90/10 in Deves’ favour” statement? He can’t, and won’t. An unnamed Labor stategist? Sure. More than likely his own imagination.
‘And, right now, all the public polls show neither major party has electoral support to hit it.”Chris has got to stop meeting Barnaby at the early opener every morning
Morning all. The RBA meets again today. All the conditions to justify an interest rate rise have existed for two months. The myth of great economic management should be crashing down.
Those historically inconsistent swings still give ALP 87 seats. (only 1 QLD, 0 WA gains)
On those state swings Labor needs 51.5% to get to 76 seats, compared with 51% from IPSOS breakdowns.
They are very different state swings, so unless national vote gets below 51.5% it should be a Labor majority somehow, the votes have to go somewhere.
Its getting to the stage where we need seat-by-seat lists of probables and possibles to narrow it down further.
My parents live in Wills, they think it somewhat appropriate that it’s member (Khalil) is almost permanently missing
In the event of a minority Govt, I wonder if it would be better (from a progressive viewpoint) for the coalition to form a Government with the Teals. It would be chaotic as the conservatives fight against climate change and an ICAC. Also, they’d have to deal with the fiscal landmines they’ve laid over the past 20 years.
If the ALP ends up in a minority govt the conservatives may not see the need to reflect and reform but see an easy chance to disrupt and slide back into power at the next election with the promise to fix Labor’s mess.
Good morning all. Grey day with some light rain pending. GG, best wishes for your full recovery.
Polling pretty much expected with most of the shifts down to the MOE. If an election were held today…
Possibly some significant movements at state level that might be significant.
Uhlmann, via sprocket:
“… outside the inner-city bubble the media campaign against Deves is being received very badly. In the suburbs and the regions, the vast majority are in her camp …”
The ‘vast majority’? Evidence?
Oh, an unnamed’Labor insider’.
I call bullshit on that.
‘Work To Rule says:
Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:30 am
In the event of a minority Govt, I wonder if it would be better (from a progressive viewpoint) for the coalition to form a Government with the Teals….’
LOLZ. The point for the progressives is this: gain power and make a difference. If we get the chance, just do it!
Labor’s primary vote of 35% is way too low to have much confidence in a 53% to 47% 2PP outcome.
People have really got to stop reacting to Morgan lol
Good morning Dawn Patrollers
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Lib office must be getting a lot of questions around the Indue card.
Email did not mention anything else.
Morning folks, this week’s Ulhmann Poll is showing a 90-10 2PP split in favour of Deves. This poll is known to be the most accurate as God himself was polled in the sample of 1.
The disparity between Morgan and Ipsos on the WA figures is very large. Not so much In Qld. As William said, they should be treated with great caution.
mor rubish from masola 9 news is just as bad as news corp with acseption of harcher pliberseck is okay but sceen as to close to shorten great to see peny wong used more as shes laqbors strongist shadow and seems to know her portfoleo ashame she is not in lower house and charmers after shortins trole in trying to undermining labors election with kitching albanese should send him of to woshington as our ambasada as soon as he wins funy masola does not mention thaht faafter rustons train reck on health shes been sidelind and michaelia cash is no where acsept 2gb and 6pr pluse did not advicate the religis fredom stunt leaving it to junier spokesman amanda stoaker to take the fall and colebeck on aged care is in witnes protection and what about hawke and mortinrobbert supozidly morrisons inner circle but get no media profile clair is under used
Its getting to the stage where we need seat-by-seat lists of probables and possibles to narrow it down further.
That is Morrison’s lifeline. He is hoping the swings against him are in safe Liberal seats. Uhlmann is desperately clinging to it too. But i find it hard to believe Morrisons ‘man o the people’ charade will convince as many this time as it seemed to in 2019.
Some reputations may come to grief with this election.
The Queensland swing may vindicate or finally end Morgan polling.
An ALP majority may put so much egg on Uhlmann’s face he has to go where all total clowns end up, Sky after dark, where he can finally let his personal views fly free of the little restraint he still manages to keep.