The latest Roy Morgan poll, which is now reliably a monthly series with large samples accumulated from weekly surveying, has Labor’s two-party lead in from 57-43 to 56.5-43.5 on respondent-allocated preferences, though the primary vote movements are somewhat more unfavourable for Labor than this suggests: they are down two on last month to 33%, their weakest result since the election, with the Coalition steady on 27%, the Greens down half a point to 12.5% and One Nation up two to 14% (their best result from Morgan since 1998). Based on previous election flows, Labor’s lead is in from 57-43 to 55-45. Presumably to add more context to One Nation’s rise, the poll comes with breakdowns in unusual detail, including primary votes as well as two-party preferred results for all six states, together with gender and age breakdowns. The poll was conducted October 20 to November 16 from a sample of 5248.
UPDATE: Spectre Strategy, which published a poll late in the federal election that was in line with what other pollsters were showing, has emerged with a set of voting intention numbers showing Labor leading 53-47 on two-party preferred, on what appear to be respondent-allocated preferences, from primary votes of Labor 33%, Coalition 25%, One Nation 17.5% and Greens 12.5%. The poll was conducted November 4 to 17 from a sample of 1007.
Fastwheelssays:
Sunday, November 23, 2025 at 6:30 pm
More made up bull shit from a proven liberal liar. Will be on the front page of the Herald Sun as fact tomorrow.
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Please keep up. It’s been in the news all week. It happened last Sunday.
aggmagpie @ #1446 Sunday, November 23rd, 2025 – 6:22 pm
The Greens do appear to be polling well in SA, at around 13-14% compared to the 9% they got in the 2022 election. With the collapse of the Liberal vote they might indeed end up winning Heysen and/or Unley.
Heysen would be the most likely, that’s something of a “bohemian” electorate that was almost picked up by SA-BEST in 2018 (52-48), the Greens came second in 2014 (albeit by 61-39), and the Australian Democrats came close in 2002 (54-46) and 1997 (52-48).
William Bowesays:
Sunday, November 23, 2025 at 6:33 pm
Crozier is reacting to the following report on Nine from three days ago.
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It does seem a bit odd but I think it’s more to do with the Ambos trying to prioritize. I dare say she would have been transported by ambulance if it was in Melbourne.
It also seems that the Ambos spoke to the family and they collectively came to the conclusion for the family to drive her.
It’s possible that later the family came to feel differently about things.
– Coal and gas are two of Australia’s biggest and most lucrative exports and domestically, the Albanese government acknowledges gas will be required in Australia’s energy mix “through to 2050 and beyond”.
Asked whether that was compatible with the Belém statement, Mr Albanese answered “yes”.
“[Gas] is needed, it’s part of the transition which is occurring. What you need to back up renewables is firming capacity,” he said.
“Our position is the same today as it was yesterday.”
Albanese says no change in policy
The prime minister made it clear he would not be altering any existing policies to align with the ambition stated in the declaration.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-23/g20-defies-trump-with-leaders-jointly-signing-statement/106041342
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He talks the talk…
Fastwheels @ #1492 Sunday, November 23rd, 2025 – 6:30 pm
Already has been for 3 days
@Kirsdarke Good point, I hadn’t realised the Greens are polling about 5% above their last result and with the Liberals sitting around 20% statewide it would be unlucky for that to translate to zero seats, but if the Greens are picking up seats and strong Independents are running again, the Liberals could definitely get squeezed.
I guess the moral of the story is that Labor alone won’t be able to reduce the Liberals to zero. It’ll take the Greens and Independents to finish the job lol
Albo didn’t exactly say no change in policy. When asked a stupid question, he said ‘no’:
JOURNALIST: Do you understand how people would understand that now that you’ve signed up to this declaration that there would be movement on tapering off coal exports or gas exports or gas in general? You’re saying that that’s not the case at all?
PRIME MINISTER: No.
https://www.pm.gov.au/media/press-conference-johannesburg-south-africa-0
> Gas and coal experts are already tapering off. The govt. acknowledges that and has a suite of policies to replace those exports.
pied piper says:
Sunday, November 23, 2025 at 2:51 pm
Newspoll out tonight ?
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Hopefully.
Tonight is 3 weeks since the last Newspoll, however the gap between the previous polls was 4 weeks.
If they wait until next week (30-Nov), then that will probably be it for Newspoll for 2025, however if they drop one tonight, then there is a bit of wriggle room to drop another mid Dec.
Anyway, if one turns up, we should have it within the next 2 hrs.
Terrible story that Vic Ambulance issue with the 91 year old lady.
I suppose we’ll find out in due course why the Ambo’s refused transport, but on the face of it, it doesn’t sound good.
Re Kronomex @6:27.
A violin small enough to play a tune that would express the full extent of my sadness at how the nasty casino regulators have treated poor innocent James Packer would be shorter than the Planck length (therefore couldn’t exist).
… and newspoll is out. Can someone jump in please and get the numbers
Kirsdarke:
Sunday, November 23, 2025 at 6:15 pm
[‘Yeah, that plan sickened me when I heard about it in full. Essentially it’s just telling Ukraine “Give up what you lost, don’t bother seeking justice for war crimes against you, and give up your ability to fight back when Putin comes for round three in a couple of years when we give him the ability to re-arm.”]
That I think is the crux of the matter. It reminded me of when Hitler annexed the Sudetenland in ’38; the Czech government wasn’t even invited to the table.
I have to say, it’s been a busy week with polls recently.
What are we up to – 5 National polls in 7 days?
I think it’s time I got myself an Oz subscription!
New thread.
The more polls, the merrier, nadia.
Kirsdarke
I also genuinely felt sick when I heard the plan in full.
Given that given that Marco Rubio suggests that the “peace plan” was written by Russia, we really now have the whole Munich debacle ready to rhyme with history.
The Independent has the plan: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-ukraine-28-point-peace-plan-putin-russia-nato-b2870340.html
The resonances with Munich in 1938 are too strong to ignore, and I think Putin knows this. There is a lot of “trolling” going on here.
So, Putin demands bits of Ukraine he has been trying to conquer since 2014, but has not been able to win by force of arms, particularly the whole of the Donbas region. This means that Ukraine gives up the defensive line it established in Donbas after the 2014 Russian invasion. Also, the Donbas has much of the coal, iron and steel, and industrial production of Ukraine.
And Ukraine has to limit the size of its armed forces and give up many effective weapons. It will be rendered defenceless except for the “guarantee of Trump’s United States. Oh, and the US and Russia will make a Shitload of money out of the “peace” deal.
So, Munich.
Mussolini, at the end of September 1938, brokered a “peace” between Czechoslovakia and Germany. The Czechoslovakian prime minister and president were excluded from the talks, which were hashed out between England, France and Germany.
At one stage, when Hitler presented his demands (not sure how many points), Sir Neville Henderson, the British Ambassador to Germany said “This is ein Diktat” (or WTTE). Hitler then pointed to the heading at the top of the document and said “No, it is a memorandum”.
Anyway, the very tired and stressed Czechoslovaks were presented with a fait accompli well after midnight and surrendered. There was probably no other choice given the situation militarily, and the fact that Britain and France would not fight to protect them.
But, in giving up the Sudetenland at Munich, the Czechoslovaks gave away their industrial heartland, and also their line of defence against Germany.
In March 1939, the Germans just marched in and took the lot. Including the cows and houses. The Sudetenland Czechs left with only the clothes on their back.
I think Trump, our Orange Mussolini, is getting involved for similar reasons – he is very favourable to Putin, and would like a Europe where Putin holds the old Warsaw pact countries – none of this individual choice stuff, and women back in the kitchen. And the Russian Orthodox hard version of militant and unforgiving Christianity has a real resonance with Trump.
How migrant and overseas Christians are helping keep Australian churches alive
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-23/christian-migrants-asia-pacific-sustain-australian-churches/105997642
“An Anglican Church bishop in Queensland’s north says that his 11 Pacific Islander ministers, serving the region’s parishes, is saving those parishes from collapse.
“Together they make up half of my full-time workforce in the diocese,” Bishop Keith Joseph said.
Census data shows the number of Australians who identify as Christian has halved from 86 per cent in 1971 to 44 per cent in 2021.
But the decrease has been tempered by Christian migrants from Asia, Africa, the Middle East and the Pacific.
Bishop Joseph said priests and brothers have been recruited from the Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea and Vanuatu to fill service gaps in regional towns, Aboriginal communities and the Torres Strait.
“All that would go if we didn’t have them,” he said.
The north Queensland diocese is also in financial trouble because of the compensation owed to victims of historic abuse.
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Me: So it appears the attendance of Australian Christians of Anglo Saxon and European heritage is decreasing in numbers. If not for overseas Christians, quite a few Churches might have closed.
A question for all the cricket enthusiasts here. Is there anywhere I can see a compilation of Travis Head’s remarkable innings?
“A question for all the cricket enthusiasts here. Is there anywhere I can see a compilation of Travis Head’s remarkable innings?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1GyUDcuqc
Thanks Ghost. Much appreciated.
C@tmommasays:
Sunday, November 23, 2025 at 10:06 am
Brereton will be replaced after his 5 year term with someone Michelle Rowland finds suited to the job.
I’d be picking Geoffrey Watson if it was my choice.
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On their current record, I am guessing they will offer it to Walter Sofronoff.