The Australian reports the first Newspoll in four weeks finds no abatement in the Coalition’s loss of support to One Nation, with the former down four on the primary vote since the last poll to 24% and the latter up four to 15%. This smashes records at both ends: the Coalition’s 27% in the previous poll was already their worst ever, while One Nation’s previous record was 13%. Labor and the Greens are both down a point, to 36% and 11% respectively, with Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 57-43. Sussan Ley’s approval rating has tumbled seven points to 25%, while her disapproval is up nine to 58%. Anthony Albanese is at 46% approval and 51% disapproval, both up one from last time, and leads 54-27 on preferred prime minister, out from 51-31. The poll was conducted Monday to Thursday from a sample of 1265.
James Campbell of News Corp also reported yesterday on a poll from Freshwater Strategy, which had gone quiet since markedly overstating Coalition support in its polling before the May federal election. It found Labor leading 55-45 from primary votes of Labor 33%, Coalition 31% and One Nation 10%, with no result provided in the report for the Greens. The poll also found 35% holding that the country is headed in the right direction, compared with 52% for wrong direction; that 22% now rate immigration “one of the most important issues they want the federal government to focus on”, compared with 11% in February 2024.
Pegasus says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 1:37 pm
The Greens…
…yes, them….they have been practicing a politics of hatred ever since they formed. They are among the phobics…along with the Nationals, PHON and the rump Reactionaries.
They despise the common-or-garden voters and the party that represents these voters.
Pegasussays:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 1:37 pm
GA
“The NSW Greens have called for a new approach from NSW police and the premier, Chris Minns, after a neo-Nazi rally overtly targeting Jewish people was allowed to go ahead in Sydney on Saturday morning.
Greens MP Sue Higginson said on Saturday:
The Greens abhor antisemitism and racism and I was sickened to see neo-Nazis outside the NSW parliament today. The Greens condemn the actions and the rhetoric of these depraved racists. The Jewish community and people of colour in our state should not be subjected to this on our streets or news feeds.
Higginson said tougher laws on protests wouldn’t work this time, and that Minns “needs to deal with the actual issue”.
It’s time to set up a taskforce to work with the NSW police engagement and hate crime unit and the counter-terrorism command, and deal with the rise of the far right and racism in this state head on.”
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The messaging is wrong.
They’re not some scary emerging power.
They’re a handful of deadset dopes who wouldn’t now their arse from their elbow.
They should be mocked and laughed at as absolute dumbarses embarrassing themselves.
USA Today
June 19, 2025
Did Obama deport more people than Trump? What to know as Trump calls for more ICE arrests
By Kinsey Crowley
Throughout eight years in office, the Obama administration logged more than 3.1 million ICE deportations, according to Syracuse’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse. The peak was fiscal year 2012, when more than 407,000 people were removed. By comparison, the first Trump administration maxed out at deporting 269,000 people in 2019, according to the same TRAC data set. Across four years, the Trump administration recorded fewer than 932,000 deportations.
Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, Syracuse University
Copyright 2025
At least try to be factual, nath, if you’re trying to prove…something.
Not to mention I see that you aren’t even game to compare Obama apples with Trump apples. Here, let me help you:
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not
Facts matter. More than smart arse one-liners.
Also, you may or may not remember that my attitude towards co-ordinated people smuggling to Australia at that time, was crystal clear. I prefer a well-regulated migration and refugee intake.
America also has a very large land border which makes it very porous, especially if you have a sympathetic party in power that was trying to advocate for the Dreamers, iirc. So was trying to get the policy in place to better accommodate people who were already in America and discourage more from coming until the system was implemented for immigration in general. So, back out of America they went. I don’t think I commented on it because I could see the bigger picture. Something your mean-spirited comments about me (I don’t care) and an obviously distressed (not AI-generated) husband are unwilling to acknowledge.
Not to mention that Trump and Stephen Miller have only just got started and will dwarf President Obama’s numbers by the time their finished.
So, why don’t you try pulling your head in for once instead of doubling down? Shooting the messenger doesn’t always work. Ask Lars.
The big ute and SUV dominated era won’t last, imho.
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It is a stubborn market, that one. My ute is is one of the more efficient ones but it still guzzles diesel – some peeps must be paying a fortune in fuel for their big, heavy, guzzling utes and SUVs – the desire for them is not slowed, only increasing. That is partly because vehicle purchases have long been marketed as something other than a utilitarian purchase. It is a statement, a way of life, a branding. And, if we are honest, a lot of EV purchases are made for similar reasons.
Dyson Daniels v Doncic today is an interesting aside.
True TK, charging your EV from your solar is Marxist af and makes Tony Abbott cry and I’m all about that. I would drive past and ‘roll sunshine’ on him if that were a thing 🌈
“C@tmomma says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 1:49 pm
USA Today
June 19, 2025”
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Excellent post, IMO.
Perfectly illustrating the void between those of us who are actually fair dinkum about achieving real beneficial reforms and the concern trolls, who will ALWAYS take facts out of context to smudge those actually in the Arena fighting the good fight.
Arky @ #2399 Sunday, November 9th, 2025 – 1:37 pm
There is no point in wasting arguments on those whose brains have ossified. Or on those who label others as “crypto-reactionary trolls”.
“As usual P1 has no arguments just labelling.
” There is no point in wasting arguments on those whose brains have ossified. Or on those who label others as “crypto-reactionary trolls”.”
The labeller doesn’t like labelling, heh.
I appreciate not wanting to waste arguments, seeing as you don’t appear to have any to waste.
Oakeshott Country says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 1:30 pm
Senator Jessica Collins has attacked Albo for promoting the League in the Pacific to the detriment of Rah Rah.
Now I must declare an interest: I was born in New Zealand, and I have fond memories of watching the All Blacks play union on the weekends. I am no longer a New Zealand citizen, and now my love for the Wallabies knows no bounds, especially after such a huge season played with heart and hope.
This Pakeha believes she can decide which sport the natives should follow.
中华人民共和国
As we’ve discussed before OC, Rah Rah will go the way of Latin. Played in Private Schools and kept alive in the Pacific by New Zealand because their pies are average and they win most games.
The Wallabies losing to Italy is, let’s face it, Embarrassing. Australian Rah Rah is a bit like watching the slow death of the Liberal Party.
League on the other carries an egalitarian ethos that appeals to most Australians and our Pacific cousins.
I pointed out the other day that our William Bowe was the “Working Persons” Antony Green (some here derided that). But William gives us access to vent our thoughts and frustrations, passions and beliefs. This site is often a place of learning. We don’t all agree but respectful debate is tolerated.
Rugby League has always been the “Working Persons” choice of winter sport in Queensland and New South Wales and I predict will push out the last vestiges of Rah Rah in the Pacific and become a “soft power” tool in Diplomacy with our neighbours.
Thanks meher baba and Arky,
My confusion then on “Mamdami mania” outside the US is, what exact lesson are people wanting us (Australia) to learn?
If it is that “progressives meed millennial rizz” to beat right wingers, well:
– Did Labor need this to beat the LNP? No, a bespectacled 60 year old man with a taste for 70s music one the largest majority in several decades.
– Did the Greens need it to save their seats? Well thats a question as to whether MCM would have been a more successful leader than Bandt.
– Did the LNP need it to beat Labor? Should then Will Shackel the “nuclear baby” have run the LNP instead of Dutton?
Yeah, a New Yorker Democrat policy platform is not translatable to Australia, but that is precisely my point. If the lesson is the style, and not the substance, that seems more likely to set people up for failure.
Thanks, Andrew_Earlwood.
However, there are those who are going to sit at the feet of Mamdani:
Europe’s left flocks to New York to take notes on Mamdani’s meteoric rise
Several European left-wing officials said they had been in contact with members of Zohran Mamdani’s campaign in New York in the hope of emulating his success in future local elections.
https://www.politico.eu/article/zohran-mamdani-new-york-campaign-european-left/
Though they should probably just look to The Netherlands for inspiration.
Also, remember I was asking if Farage’s Reform had any policies, or just grievance? Well, it looks like they’re thinking about something BIG:
https://www.politico.eu/article/will-nigel-farage-slay-british-politics-sacred-cow-triple-lock-pension-economy-reform-uk/
On the broader topic “to socialism, or not to socialism”, its probably worth reminding people that:
– We are conversing on the Government owned internet (NBNCo)
– You can pay your bills at the Government owned post office (AusPost)
– You can get a loan (or give equity stake) on your business investment from the government development bank (NRF) or the Government export bank (Export finance Australia)
– Your public housing will be funded by the government housing bank (HAFF); powered by renewables funded by the Government renewable energy bank (CEFC).
– And if you buy your own home, either the government will offer to take a 40% stake or pay for your mortgage insurance.
– If you live in a remote indigenous community, you can by your groceries from the government owned stores (Outback Stores)
– And you may even one day get a government owned brain chip:
https://www.startupdaily.net/topic/funding/nrf-slings-54-million-at-synchron-the-melbourne-uni-rival-to-neuralink-thats-just-raised-a-305-million-series-d/
So the problem with the “socialism” discussion is that in reality, its a fight between a current government that is more China 2012, vs those demanding Russia 1920. It is politics as “its not ‘real socialism’ because my team didn’t think of it first”.
@Bizzcan – always in motion is the future, as a wise muppet once said.
Labor is going to need to communicate more and better with the youngs in the future, and to take on some hard policy fights, so it can learn from Mamdani’s communication and social media game on both fronts.
With Farage and the triple lock, right wing parties have traditionally been able to get away with screwing over pensioners who then vote for them anyway out of inertia or for social reasons etc. I wonder if Farage gambles that burning hatred of immigrants will trump fiddling with the pension. Could well be right.
Brandis thinks Hastie might be channelling Burke, Powell, Putin & Trump:
he world has changed, and our political vision must change with it … We can no longer dine out on the post-Cold War peace dividend, where Francis Fukuyama famously declared the end of history and total victory for liberalism.”
…
While Hastie’s remarks on immigration may or may not have been a deliberate nod to Enoch Powell, it is hardly likely he intended to channel Vladimir Putin. Yet his view that postwar liberalism is dead is eerily similar to observations Putin made in a rare interview with a Western newspaper, The Financial Times, in June 2019: “The liberal idea has become obsolete. It has come into conflict with the overwhelming majority of the population …” said Putin. “
he so-called liberal idea … has outlived its purpose.” Putin referenced multiculturalism as among the reasons Western liberalism had failed.
Hastie’s speech also comes to the defence of right-wing populism. He appears to be enamoured by the cult of Donald Trump.’]
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/this-man-wants-to-lead-the-liberal-party-he-won-t-if-he-keeps-savaging-the-liberal-bit-20251109-p5n8tb.html
Now that Brandis can express his views in the absence of political concerns, in my view, he’s
become a persuasive writer, offering his views on a wide variety of issues. And he’s right about boy wonder. He’s not (between the lines) the messiah the Tories had hoped for. It’s obvious for all to see that Jessica Collins is that person, but she’ll first need to do a Gorton.
Herald Sun 09/11
More than 20 vehicles have reportedly been left stranded after sustaining serious damage from a pothole on the Princes Highway on Saturday.
Video emerged showing the emergency lane lit up with hazard lights as multiple vehicles were reportedly sidelined by a single pothole near a Nar Nar Goon service station on Saturday afternoon.
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That’s why people drive big utes in Regional Vic.
EV’s with no spare and small hatchbacks are useless once you leave the city.
That’s a development and a half. Hastie is now being compared to Winston Churchill and J F Kennedy.
Bourke became known as an independent Whig and is often looked to as the inspiration for the modern UK Conservative Party – fusing together an intellectual repudiation of both the Whig “radicals” and the cross eyed inbreed country tory party of the late 18th century. Of course the heavy lifting in that regard was Pitt the Younger, whose daddy was a Whig PM, but who governed until his death with the support of the Tories. Wellington, very much a tories’ tory also did his bit when he later didn’t seek to destroy the passage of the Reform Act, in 1832 even though he initially opposed it.
The problem for hastie is that i am near certain that both Bourke and Pitt the Younger would have been implacably opposed to his current gambit of populist shit-fuckery if they were alive today. Wellington for his part loathed any form of popularism and would have had him horsewhipped.
The result in NYC is likely to have been different if the other candidate wasn’t Andrew Cuomo. The man had more baggage than a Real Housewife on vacation. The sexually harassment scandal that ended his career in Albany should have been the end of his career.
As governor, he is share of the vote dropped at each election. In his final gubernatorial race he was primary challenge by Cynthia Nixon of Sex in the City fame – only in 2 to 1 which is not great for a sitting governor.
Cuomo running sucked the juice out of the other moderates in the NYC primary race. Mamdani was able to take advantage of the situation and successfully using the Gaza war situation won the primary. Cuomo’s attempt at an independent run was probably never going to succeed but was probably closer than it looked like it was going to be a month ago.
Anyway, now we have to see how Mamdani actually governs.
The Hypocrisy of Hanson: Howard’s Political Love Child.
https://theaimn.net/the-hypocrisy-of-hanson-howards-political-love-child/
Tony Windsor on that other useless POS in Federal politics.
The definitive EV v’s ICE debate!
https://x.com/TechOperator/status/1987221094294544597
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 3:35 pm
Wellington for his part loathed any form of popularism and would have had him horsewhipped.
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I don’t think that is historically accurate – we have documented evidence as to how Wellington handled such issues.
Engineering with Rosie: Australia’s Solar Boom Is Breaking the Grid – Or Is It?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qavFbOpt4jA
Rosie looks at work to provide grid stability using technology such as grid forming inverters.
BBC leftie trash biased as usual…
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/fake-news-how-edited-trump-video-created-another-fine-mess-for-the-bbc-20251109-p5n8so.html
lol pp
pedo files when
More detailed information from someone who was there!
https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/11/the-dismissal-the-role-of-cia-mi6-and-austral-americans/
Pegasus says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 1:25 pm
Amy R does nail it:
Australian politics 101: Getting the lessons wrong every time…’
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Good point. What lessons can Amy teach the Greens from a fall in the primary vote, the loss of a leader, the loss of three other seats?
themunz,
John Menadue has def changed his tune in the article you linked, compared to this documentary prepared by 4 Corners in late 1995, which I found quite interesting when I watched it the other day.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09bb1uETzfE
I wasn’t around in 1975, but from what my Oz history teacher taught us, he said these were the issues which caused the downfall of the Whitlam gov’t…
1. Inflation & the economy. Inflation had apparently spiked after some oil crisis, which was out of
Gough’s hands & had something to do with the Middle East.
2. The Loans affair involving some private banker
3. As a result of “3”, Australian banks & International Finance companies were out to get him
4. Australian mining companies were out to get him, &
5. The media were out to get him.
I don’t know what the media reporting was like in late 1975, except for what is available on Trove, but it sounds like it was quite visceral.
Two days until the 50 year anniversary.
Coincidentally, the 1975 calendar is exactly the same as the 2025 calendar.
pedo files when
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTaKDnSIb4c
Nadia88
Yes mostly true but it was also a chaotic government which struggled to get out a coherent message.
Prominent Liberal moderate Andrew Bragg says the desire of conservatives to ditch support for net zero emissions is “absolutely ridiculous” and would make Australia an international outlier.
Ahead of meetings to settle a climate policy this week, Senator Bragg said the focus should be on doing “net zero better than Labor” and he did not expect colleagues would abandon that aspiration, but he would quit the shadow cabinet if they did.
“My view is we won’t get to that because I don’t believe my colleagues want Australia to be ranked with
baddies,” he told the ABC’s Insiders on Sunday.
“I don’t think you can have a fatwa on two words, I think that’s too silly for words, frankly. At the end of the day, this is the international standard on decarbonisation … Australia is part of the international community.”
It now appears certain that the party will drop the target of reaching net zero by the year 2050, set by the Morrison government as part of international climate negotiations and legislated by the Albanese government.
But there is considerable jostling about whether Liberals will push the date out to 2100, keep it without a date, or abandon it entirely.
From the ABC
Oakeshott Country says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 5:30 pm
Nadia88
Yes mostly true but it was also a chaotic government which struggled to get out a coherent message.
中华人民共和国
I barely remember the day. I was in Grade 1.
My parents were terribly upset and angry. I remember going to my grandparents that night and the whole extended family came together which usually only happened at Christmas.
Malcolm Fraser was compared to Joh and the dislike of both was visceral among my clan.
I do remember the next day going to school and Sister Therese asking who we should pray for. I said Mr Whitlam because he lost his job. I think my small class said a prayer that day for him.
I still maintain the rage that that day engendered as do my folks.
The Beatles have a lot to answer for. “It was 50 years ago today” is a nice opening line for the Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band album, but it has inflicted a bunch of overpriced “50th anniversary” merch on us. (Presumably kicking the copyright can 50 years into the future, too.)
Following on from Kirsdarke’s U.K. poll drop this morning, another has also turned up which shows somewhat of a resurgence for U.K. Labour.
Pollster: J.L. Partners
* Reform 30% (-1)
* Labour 23% (+3)
* Tories 17% (-2)
* LibDems 12% (-1)
* Greens 10% (+1)
* Others 8% (nc)
So not all doom and gloom, despite a few headlines of a possible “spill” from a couple of papers.
nadia88says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 5:19 pm
themunz,
John Menadue has def changed his tune in the article you linked, compared to this documentary prepared by 4 Corners in late 1995, which I found quite interesting when I watched it the other day.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09bb1uETzfE
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In the thirty years that have elapsed since that ABC program and so much more information has become available, very much due to the efforts of Prof Jenny Hocking. She has faced many obstacles all the way!
Interesting to note that Paul Kelly was heavily involved in the ABC program! Evidence has come to light that Rupert Murdoch had been in constant contact with Kerr thru 1975!
I will never forget the disbelief at the time and still maintain the rage:-).
Themunz, in that youtube video link I posted, there is reference to Rupert Murdoch.
He apparently told one of his editors on 10-Nov, that Whitlam would be turfed out the following day.
The person quoted is referenced in the video, but the name doesn’t mean anything to me.
Upnorth – thanks for sharing your recollection.
An interesting part of Oz history.
Some sage advice to Hasie here from George Brandis.
Quoting Paul Kelly, eminence grise of Australian journalism, wrote recently of the populist right: “This group loses virtually every battle of ideas it fights … It is obsessed about its own obsessions, weak on Australian history, out of touch with how Australia has changed, incompetent in policy formation, brilliant at alienating sector after sector in the community, inept in understanding cultural power, disastrously bedazzled by Trump’s success …
t will consign the Liberal Party to permanent opposition, if not worse.”
Brabdis continues on with, “Such people make a lot of noise – in particular through outlets such as Sky After Dark – but they represent a tiny slice of opinion on the very margins.
Before he ruins his chances by jumping onto their bandwagon, Hastie might care to reflect on another wise observation of Edmund Burke’s.”
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/this-man-wants-to-lead-the-liberal-party-he-won-t-if-he-keeps-savaging-the-liberal-bit-20251109-p5n8tb.html
lol TK
I hope it doesn’t sound arrogant when I say: I am the greatest man in the world.
Omar Comin’ says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 5:48 pm
lol TK
I hope it doesn’t sound arrogant when I say: I am the greatest man in the world.
中华人民共和国
I am “Omar Comin’”
bcsays:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 4:16 pm
Engineering with Rosie: Australia’s Solar Boom Is Breaking the Grid – Or Is It?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qavFbOpt4jA
Rosie looks at work to provide grid stability using technology such as grid forming inverters.
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Good YT (thanks Soc.), although I thought she exaggerated slightly the significance of the system security trial which is outlined here:
https://www.aemo.com.au/newsroom/news-updates/aemo-progressing-transitional-system-security-services
Undoubtedly, grid-forming inverters will help maintain system security and 70% of batteries in the connection pipeline have them. However, the lack of emphasis given to them in recent speeches by AEMO executives give a fair indication of their current status:
https://www.aemo.com.au/newsroom/speeches-and-presentations/aemo-ceo-speech-at-the-australian-energy-nation-forum-2025
https://www.aemo.com.au/newsroom/speeches-and-presentations/aemo-egm-presentation-at-cigre-shaping-the-power-systems-of-tomorrow
Latest National Resolve poll (via the SMH/Age)
* ALP 33% (-1)
* LNP 29% (+1)
* PHON 12% (nc)
* GRN 12% (+1)
* Others/Indies 14% (-1)
Link: https://www.smh.com.au/national/resolve-political-monitor-20210322-p57cvx.html
Jaeger says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 5:41 pm
The Beatles have a lot to answer for. “It was 50 years ago today” is a nice opening line for the Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band album, but it has inflicted a bunch of overpriced “50th anniversary” merch on us. (Presumably kicking the copyright can 50 years into the future, too.)
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Except it was “twenty years ago” ….
”I don’t know what the media reporting was like in late 1975, except for what is available on Trove, but it sounds like it was quite visceral.”
Imagine 2013 on steroids.
Taylormade says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 3:11 pm
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That’s why people drive big utes in Regional Vic.
EV’s with no spare and small hatchbacks are useless once you leave the city.
20 inch + wheels yes. The rest is a load of rubbish. In fact. In seriously bad roads lightness is a big plus.
It was 20 years rather than 50. I blame inflation.
It was twenty years ago today,
Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play.
They’ve been going in and out of style,
But they’re guaranteed to raise a smile.
So may I introduce to you the act you’ve known for all these years?
Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
We’re Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,
We hope you will enjoy the show,
We’re Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,
Sit back and let the evening go.
Sergeant Pepper’s lonely, Sgt. Pepper’s lonely,
Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.