The Australian reports the first Newspoll in four weeks finds no abatement in the Coalition’s loss of support to One Nation, with the former down four on the primary vote since the last poll to 24% and the latter up four to 15%. This smashes records at both ends: the Coalition’s 27% in the previous poll was already their worst ever, while One Nation’s previous record was 13%. Labor and the Greens are both down a point, to 36% and 11% respectively, with Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 57-43. Sussan Ley’s approval rating has tumbled seven points to 25%, while her disapproval is up nine to 58%. Anthony Albanese is at 46% approval and 51% disapproval, both up one from last time, and leads 54-27 on preferred prime minister, out from 51-31. The poll was conducted Monday to Thursday from a sample of 1265.
James Campbell of News Corp also reported yesterday on a poll from Freshwater Strategy, which had gone quiet since markedly overstating Coalition support in its polling before the May federal election. It found Labor leading 55-45 from primary votes of Labor 33%, Coalition 31% and One Nation 10%, with no result provided in the report for the Greens. The poll also found 35% holding that the country is headed in the right direction, compared with 52% for wrong direction; that 22% now rate immigration “one of the most important issues they want the federal government to focus on”, compared with 11% in February 2024.
World News & Politics Patrol:
Three thermal power plants down, 12-hour blackouts introduced in Ukraine, as Russia executes freeze-out terror: https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/11/08/all-thermal-power-plants-down-12-hour-blackouts-introduced-in-ukraine-as-russia-executes-freeze-out-terror/
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s absence sets off alarm bells in Moscow: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/07/europe/russian-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrov-absence-intl
Trump gives Hungary one-year exemption from Russian energy sanctions: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp85dvnkpv4o
Japan eyes nuclear subs after U.S. gives OK to S. Korea: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16143129
Majority of Brazil’s Supreme Court votes to reject Bolsonaro’s appeal, upholding 27-year sentence: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/brazil/majority-brazils-supreme-court-votes-reject-bolsonaros-appeal-upholdin-rcna242654
Turkey issues ‘genocide’ arrest warrants against Netanyahu and other Israeli officials: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/07/middleeast/turkey-issues-genocide-arrest-warrant-against-netanyahu-intl-latam
Keir Starmer ‘facing a plot to oust him’ amid Labour’s dire poll ratings: https://metro.co.uk/2025/11/08/keir-starmer-facing-a-plot-oust-him-amid-labours-dire-poll-ratings-24651423/
Air Traffic Controllers Start Resigning as Shutdown Bites: https://www.thedailybeast.com/air-traffic-controllers-start-resigning-as-shutdown-bites/
Trump Finally Meets A Problem His Lies Cannot Overcome: Rising Grocery Prices: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-grocery-lies_n_690e4e2ee4b0dd4ea75b830a?origin=home-whats-happening-unit
Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls Out Trump’s Blatant Lie on Inflation: https://newrepublic.com/post/202870/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-lie-food-prices-inflation
JB Pritzker tells Donald Trump to “f**k all the way off”: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/11/jb-pritzker-tells-donald-to-fk-all-the-way-off/
FBI Informant Who Lied About the Bidens Covertly Released From Jail: https://newrepublic.com/post/202897/fbi-informant-alexander-smirnov-lied-biden-released-jail
Federal shutdown threatens these Trump voters’ livelihoods but not their political loyalties: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/federal-shutdown-threatens-these-trump-voters-livelihoods-not-their-political-2025-11-08/
DHS head reportedly authorized purchase of 10 engineless Spirit Airlines planes that airline didn’t own: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/08/kristi-noem-spirit-airlines-planes
Supreme Court issues emergency order to block full SNAP food aid payments: https://apnews.com/article/snap-food-government-shutdown-trump-a807e9f0c0a7213e203c074553dc1f9b
So the Liberals have a target of 50% female representation in parliament but will continue with no feasible strategy to get there. They should just be honest and drop the target instead of pretending it is what they want.
And from the same article:
My guess? It will be released at 3pm on christmas eve. 😆
Hi Bizzcan
I missed your post at 12:15am (sleep overtook me) where you queried my point about the fossil fuel industry.
1. I have no problem with a RUC alternative to current fuel excise, except I propose it be applied to all vehicles using public roads (not just EVs) in a way that correlates more accurately with road damage (ie distance & weight based).
2. Plus make the current excise more like an emissions price by removing the current fuel rebates for the miners.
Eg
https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/scrap-fuel-tax-rebates-for-mining-industry-not-farmers/
The point is, the fossil fuel industry hates carbon prices , hence the simple point I made.
HH: “The ailing Liberal Party will shun quotas to help boost its ranks of women MPs, despite Opposition Leader Sussan Ley having opened the door to the measure. The party’s review into its historic drubbing at the May federal election – led by Liberal elders Nick Minchin and Pru Goward – will not recommend a rigid quota system, according to four sources familiar with the draft report but not sanctioned to talk about it publicly.”
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The Liberal Party is rooted. At a time when they desperately need to diversify their pool of talent, they are doubling-down on a system that will most likely make them even more vulnerable to Teal and other independent opponents. And it’s a vicious circle: as representation in the House remains low or even declines further, their Senate representatives – who are more likely than the House members to be rightwing ratbags – become increasingly empowered.
Jacinta Price was moved from the Nats to the Libs because her vote was more valuable to the forces of darkness in the latter party, and will enable the dream ticket of a Hastie-Price leadership team, which is only possible if she’s a Liberal. (Because the Nats are never seriously going to contemplate making an Indigenous woman their leader.)
I almost hope to see a Hastie-Price ticket because it would be a fascinating exercise in watching how low the vote of a major political party in this country can go at the Federal level. (I doubt that the Federal Coalition can ever hope to rival the achievements of their WA counterparts and of the Tasmanian ALP, but perhaps I’m being unfair to them.)
But the demise of the Liberal Party is not good for the overall health of the Australian polity. But I can’t really see a way out for them ATM. There’s a smell of the 1950s ALP split hovering in the air.
Q; So the Liberals have a target of 50% female representation in parliament but will continue with no feasible strategy to get there.
The Liberals want carbon reduction- with no strategy to get there.
They want smaller Government – with no strategy to get there.
They want budget surpluses- with no strategy to get there.
They want cheaper electricity- with no strategy to get there.
etc etc
‘Fess,
The Liberals always pretend they want things that they don’t really want. So as to get back into power, or stay in power. Then, when in power, they take the mask off and show us who they really are. It’s also so they can use these actual unrealities as talking points to get them over difficult and uncomfortable realities they don’t want the electorate to know about.
Cynical politics 101.
Torchbearer:
Yes, gender parity is just another in a long line of empty pledges.
Jacinta Price was moved from the Nats to the Libs because her vote was more valuable to the forces of darkness in the latter party, and will enable the dream ticket of a Hastie-Price leadership team, which is only possible if she’s a Liberal. (Because the Nats are never seriously going to contemplate making an Indigenous woman their leader.)
meher baba,
Pinning them down on policy specifics in an election campaign would be fun to watch.
*Do you believe in abortion on demand?
* When do you think the Earth was created and how?
* What do you think about people who are Transgender?
* What do you think about the separation of Church and State?
* Do you believe in Climate Change? If so, how do you think it will be solved? By God or Man?
* What do you think are the roles of Men and Women in society?
* What is your opinion of Same Sex Marriage?
And that’s only the beginning!
DHS head reportedly authorized purchase of 10 engineless Spirit Airlines planes that airline didn’t own: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/08/kristi-noem-spirit-airlines-planes
The Russia-mimicking corruption has begun in earnest.
paul H you remind me “so much” of another user!
Quotas wouldn’t mean anything if the Liberals don’t have a diversity of coherent positions. Wonder what John Howard is thinking about what his legacy might be.
The DLP style split has been brewing for a few years now…teals type voters are gone for good for the Liberals and they are losing moderates to Labor everywhere there isnt teals. And they can’t outcrazy one nation.
Re Meher @7:30.
You say that Jacinta Price “was moved” to the Liberals. By whom?
While an Australian road user charge (RUC) of some description is inevitable, there is no great rush given that only 1.2% of registered light passenger vehicles are a BEV.
https://www.aaa.asn.au/research-data/electric-vehicle/
EVs (light and heavy) have advantages over ICEVs, including:
– Increased fuel security. Only 10% of the liquid fuel we use is produced in Australia.
– Reduced health impacts. It is estimated that there are >11k premature deaths of adults in Australia each year due to vehicle emissions (nitrogen dioxide and fine particulate pollutants).
(Transport and Infrastructure Net Zero Roadmap and Action Plan, p. 17)
Any potential RUC needs to be carefully designed and implemented so that it doesn’t slow down EV adoption.
SL says
Totally Agree !
I’m quite sure the push for a RUC on EVs is coming from the fossil fuel industry, as yet another part of their relentless campaign to slow down replacement of fossil fuels.
Our state & federal governments have long been FF captives, so they’re part of the problem (not part of the solution).
Confessionssays:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 7:21 am
And from the same article:
My guess? It will be released at 3pm on christmas eve.
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Probably at the same time as Labor releases its controversial jobs for mates report.
Same old, same old.
Why not apply the Road User Charge to all vehicles, with appropriate / compensating adjustments to fuel excise?
C@t posted a link to an article in the Saturday Paper yesterday about a RUC. If you can believe the background sources he spoke to, the states don’t have much enthusiasm for a RUC and Chalmers mostly just wanted an announcable out of the economic roundtable (iirc).
Edit: Seccombe missed the main point, which is: federal reforms such as this, which require all of the states to agree, takes ages.
Steve777 that is basically what the Engineers Australia paper that Socrates posted suggests, but the question remains, why would you slash the pump tax on fuel?
SL says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 8:55 am
C@t posted a link to an article in the Saturday Paper yesterday about a RUC. If you can believe the background sources he spoke to, the states don’t have much enthusiasm for a RUC and Chalmers mostly just wanted an announceable out of the economic roundtable (iirc).
Exactly. At the end of the day, politics is the art of the possible. You achieve bupkis if you aren’t in power.
Kites need to be flown. Ways need to be devised to achieve goals without frightening the horses. It’s a delicate balancing act on a tightrope. Especially when you don’t have most of the media behind you.
If the Liberals had a Richo like character they wouldn’t be in the situation they are now.
Morning all. Thanks HH for the roundups. The story on Japanese interest in nuclear Submarines (SSNs) is interesting to say the least. Japan and MHI would make great design and build partners for the RAN, assuming the Mogami frigates work out OK.
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16143129
MHI has far more design and construction resources (and great expertise in automated construction of ships and subs that are in turn highly automated) than BAE or anyone in UK or even USA. Japan also has the nuclear industry skills.
RUCs? NZ have a transition system in place for this where eventually the fuel excise goes and the RUC takes over. Currently, diesels and EVs pay the RUC.
You can encourage EV uptake in other ways rather than tampering with exemptions in a new, simple RUC system.
And, I’d like to see a second tax on fuel to cover costs of the pollution (noise, particulates etc) they emit and, eventually, a carbon tax too. But I can see that might not be politically acceptable.
Pedant Alert
The ABC have this article:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-09/act-canberrans-wont-get-free-power-under-solar-share-scheme/105985790
It states: “The Australian Energy Regulator doesn’t cover the whole country, rather it covers three areas …”
What they should have wrote is: ” The Default Market Offer (DMO), which is set by the Australian Energy Regulator (AER) only covers three areas …”
This is the second time they have made this error. I resisted posting a correction the first time, but I’m too much of a pedant to resist the second.
I think the Coalition needs to split maybe moderate Liberals and teals eventually will form what is actually a real liberal party, reactionary Libs can defect to Nats and the Nats can circle the drain together with One Nation.
Susan Ley is sort of the poster child of this incongruence being a sort of small-l liberal representative of a rural seat.
Omar
“ Steve777 that is basically what the Engineers Australia paper that Socrates posted suggests, but the question remains, why would you slash the pump tax on fuel?”
The clear evidence from other jurisdictions is that if you introduce a RUC as an extra revenue measure they get politically defeated. So it needs to be revenue neutral, at least at introduction.
So you add an RUC based on mileage, with the rate per vehicle based on emissions and vehicle mass, and take away existing rego fees and fuel excise at the same time.
3 hours of free power! Already! Of course Renewables are cheaper than fossil fuel power! Any Liberal Party or Nationals MP who tries to argue otherwise is lying to you.
I’m watching Insiders, fyi for the context.
I see Greta is getting another run today.
That girl has enough rent free accommodation in some people’s minds that she could solve our housing crisis just by subletting. Of course, that would make her a slum lord.
Labor will realise their Carbon Emissions targets a lot quicker than any Coalition government would!
Maude Lynnesays:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 7:22 am
Hi Bizzcan
I missed your post at 12:15am (sleep overtook me) where you queried my point about the fossil fuel industry.
1. I have no problem with a RUC alternative to current fuel excise, except I propose it be applied to all vehicles using public roads (not just EVs) in a way that correlates more accurately with road damage (ie distance & weight based).
2. Plus make the current excise more like an emissions price by removing the current fuel rebates for the miners.
Eg
https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/scrap-fuel-tax-rebates-for-mining-industry-not-farmers/
The point is, the fossil fuel industry hates carbon prices , hence the simple point I made.
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Ok, but there are a couple of issues again with you framing:
– mining companies don’t pay the fuel excise (or to be precise, receive a lot of rebate) because they largely don’t use public roads – the have privately built road and rail around their facilities.
– mining companies are already subjected to carbon pricing – the Safeguard Mechanisms applies to whole of facility operations including trucks and rail used:
https://www.epa.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/Referral_Documentation/Appendix%25206%2520BHP%2520Pilbara%2520Regional%2520GHGMP%2520YPS%2520Stg%25204.pdf
So really all that falls outside your suggested points are very edge cases of mining companies using public roads, but these are still captured by the SM, RUC, and heavy vehicle charge.
From others i have heard interesting contributions suggesting a whole of transportation RUC that is distance/weight/emissions based that replaces the fuel excise. My concern though is that doing it “on top” is likely to hurt households the most.
B. S. Fairman @ #2271 Sunday, November 9th, 2025 – 9:07 am
Perhaps it’s just that Liberals are intuitively unable to work for the collective good. Each individual is just in it for themselves.
From the Guardian:
“Israel is holding dozens of Palestinians from Gaza isolated in an underground jail where they never see daylight, are deprived of adequate food and barred from receiving news of their families or the outside world.”
I have a problem with this sort of shit. Unfortunately, those who run Australia and who like to see Israel as an ally don’t appear to be bothered by it.
The problem for the Liberals, they are no longer a party of Government.
Andrew Bragg banging the Nuclear drum as the solution to Emissions Reductions.
Also just said more coal and gas and, as well as nuclear, is what will bring power prices down. Hoo ee! He has belled the Coalition cat here.
frednk,
Andrew Bragg keeps saying that they are a party of government. Lol.
Soc I get that and I would say “Our species lacks the political will to raise taxes” is outside the scope of the fuel tax/RUC debate, so I’ll dip out.
The Libs are well on their way to becoming a hollowed out corpse. It’s only the maggots inside squirming and fighting amongst themselves for the last remaining scraps of flesh inside that give it a semblance of life.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/gender-quotas-off-the-table-after-liberal-party-review-of-catastrophic-election-loss-20251107-p5n8m5.html
I think ppl like Andrew Bragg are the Libs only hope to keep the party relevant. They need to urgently return to a philosophy of civic minded liberalism if they are seeking to remain a serious party. They have already ceded alot of this ground to Teals and Labor.
Confessions – I just mean they need someone to kick them into line. There is plenty of leadership contenders but nobody who leads.
C@tmomma @ #2277 Sunday, November 9th, 2025 – 9:18 am
lol C@tmomma I’m an involuntary listener
Fwiw, Labor doesn’t have any policy to restrict the use of gas or coal in the electricity system (like Bragg says). Market forces, however, are pushing out fossil fuels:
Upnorth (from last night)
Thanks I will get in touch. A catchup in Cairns next June would be great. The conference is set for immediately after the long weekend.
I agree with your comments on the efficiency of MRD regional offices and RoadTek and their benefits in terms of regional employment. As you say they also had another huge benefit in terms of RoadTek being a de facto civil works resource for the state when regional floods and cyclones occurred.
The fact that Campbell Newman shut several of these offices is demonstrative of how little the LNP “brains trust” actually cared about people living in regional Qld.
Problem is, mj, Liberals like Andrew Bragg are arguing Magic Pudding economics. They want power prices down, they want house prices down now as well for 1st Home Buyers, and how that will work in practice I don’t know! You can’t even get real estate agents to quote honestly! Imagine what they and buyers would do with dummy 1st Home Buyers.
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 9:29 am
frednk,
Andrew Bragg keeps saying that they are a party of government. Lol.
I know; he is delusional. On Wednesday, the Liberals are going to rip off the mask. One Nation and the Liberals are going to duke it out for the right-wing fringe.
How Zohran Mamdani could move from one-bedroom rented home to NYC’s mayoral mansion
Zohran Mamdani, an Indian-American Democratic socialist, recently made history as New York City’s first Indian-American, Muslim mayor, bringing a grassroots voice from Astoria’s one-bedroom apartments to City Hall’s grand stage.
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/zohran-mamdani-rise-from-one-bedroom-to-mayoral-mansion-glbs-2815980-2025-11-09
“At USD 2,300 a month, his one-bedroom rental in Astoria is modest by city standards. The 800-square-foot apartment, built in 1929, includes heat and hot water, as mandated by city law, but no in-unit laundry. Instead, the couple shares a communal laundry room with neighbours.”
“Should Zohran Mamdani choose to move, his next address could be one of New York’s most famous: Gracie Mansion. Built 226 years ago and set along the East River in Carl Schurz Park, the lemon-yellow Federal-style home is a far cry from his Astoria apartment — complete with chandeliers, antique furniture, and lawns dotted with apple and fig trees.”
“The mansion spans nearly 11,000 square feet, more than ten times the size of Mamdani’s current home, and includes entertaining rooms, a grand ballroom, and a veranda perfect for summer evenings. Meals are prepared by a full-time chef, and visiting dignitaries are received beneath glittering mirrors and historic portraits.
A HOUSE STEEPED IN HISTORY — AND SECURITY
Built in 1799, Gracie Mansion has housed nearly every New York mayor since the 1940s. It’s a space that reflects both the city’s history and its contradictions, part public museum, and part private home. Former mayors like Bill de Blasio and Michael Bloomberg used it not just as a residence, but as a stage for official gatherings, community events, and press briefings.”
Nath at 1.12am.
Any evidence?
Try a search in Google images. Note his skiting about grabbing women’s privates, a rape charge, Stormy Daniels, expressing a desire to “date” his daughter, and do some research about where and how he met his current wife who is much younger than him. Have another look at the famous birthday card and his cousin Mary wrote a book about him and his attitude to women. After all that have a think about why they are doing everything possible to prevent the release of the Epstein files and why Epstein’s accomplice Ghislane Maxwell was moved to a more luxurious prison and will likely be pardoned if Trump doesn’t kick the tin shortly after singing his praises to a senior official in Trump’s so called Justice Department.
I’m not suggesting Bragg is my favoured candidate Cat just he is comes across as credible or defensible unlike the majority of the current Coalition.
Party of government? Look at the right commenter on PB.
pp is extreme right, Taylormade, might be a liberal, but he would I suspect, be very comfortable with one nation, P1 just snipes from the boundaries. There is no one debating policy.
The Sloan Zone on the current state of the Liberal Party.
https://youtu.be/RrPuVIO_zjU?si=k_hPYXn62RaMhtig