The Australian reports the first Newspoll in four weeks finds no abatement in the Coalition’s loss of support to One Nation, with the former down four on the primary vote since the last poll to 24% and the latter up four to 15%. This smashes records at both ends: the Coalition’s 27% in the previous poll was already their worst ever, while One Nation’s previous record was 13%. Labor and the Greens are both down a point, to 36% and 11% respectively, with Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 57-43. Sussan Ley’s approval rating has tumbled seven points to 25%, while her disapproval is up nine to 58%. Anthony Albanese is at 46% approval and 51% disapproval, both up one from last time, and leads 54-27 on preferred prime minister, out from 51-31. The poll was conducted Monday to Thursday from a sample of 1265.
James Campbell of News Corp also reported yesterday on a poll from Freshwater Strategy, which had gone quiet since markedly overstating Coalition support in its polling before the May federal election. It found Labor leading 55-45 from primary votes of Labor 33%, Coalition 31% and One Nation 10%, with no result provided in the report for the Greens. The poll also found 35% holding that the country is headed in the right direction, compared with 52% for wrong direction; that 22% now rate immigration “one of the most important issues they want the federal government to focus on”, compared with 11% in February 2024.
Whether the Liberals endorse Net Zero or not doesn’t matter. They do not have, nor have they ever have had, anything resembling an even remotely plausible plan to get there. The last time they engaged with the climate issue in any positive way was when the Turnbull Opposition negotiated support for the Rudd Government’s CPRS back in 2009, and he was turfed out by his colleagues for his trouble.
Diogenes
I read the article. A lot of whinging but not much on what they want to see as the alternative.
Pauline Hanson to speak at CPAC in Florida. Seems like she is going to be what the world sees as the “real” Prime Minister of Australia, a view that is shared by a myriad of people at Facebook.
Combined ON and Coalition primary vote well in excess of 40%, far ahead of the 35-36% that Labor can achieve, at best.
The days of wishy-washy Third Way what-passes-for-social-democracy are numbered.
Asha says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 8:35 pm
Upnorth:
Think I will stick with my Beer Lao.
What, Leo isn’t good enough for you rich folk?
Asha says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 8:37 pm
I speak in jest. Beer Lao is worth every bit of the premium you pay to drink it outaide of Laos.
中华人民共和国
Nearly fighting words cobber! And it’s not that much more expensive than the Thai stuff. Plus Leo is owned by one of the big Thai Brewers who bully craft brewers in the this fair Kingdom.
Rex Douglas says: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 4:43 pm
I hired one from East Coast Rentals at Brisbane Airport a week ago. It was a Polestar 2, and so I am guessing that the Polestar 4 is more advanced.
It was a dream to drive, and better than the Tesla’s that I had previously rented.
While I had really enjoyed driving the Tesla’s I had rented, they were really a bit clunky, if it was not your car. I tried to set up a Tesla profile, but if you do not own one, it is not possible.
The Polestar has all the features of the Tesla, but they are far easier to access on first drive.
I have a particular lens here: I want to drive nice cars, but I want to share them, not own them.
Herald Sun 04/11
The Allan government has quietly written-off $34m in Covid and flood grants from its books that were handed out by mistake and are unlikely to ever be recovered, with a scathing report savaging the former Department of Jobs for its handling of the program.
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Nice of them to announce it on Cup Day.
Won’t worry Martin Pakula now that he is the Chair of Crown Casino and the Australian Grand Prix Corporation.
Landlubber @ #953 Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 – 8:44 pm
Yeah, you wish.
Landlubber says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 8:44 pm
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Combined ON and Coalition primary vote well in excess of 40%, far ahead of the 35-36% that Labor can achieve, at best.
So you combine ON,the nationals and the Liberals and compare it to Labor alone and pretend you have a point?
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nadia88says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 7:23 pm
Arky says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 12:05 am
@nadia88:
““but that ignores that Turnbull did better than Abbott”
* 2013 Election. Leader Abbott. 90 seats. Majority of 14 seats
* 2016 Election. Leader Turnbull. 76 seats. Majority of 1 seat.”
Hilarious. That IS about the level of argument being run by the lunar right of the Liberal Party right now, though.
Where was Abbott in the polls when he was dumped, though?
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Hey Arky,
Saw this nutty post of yours from “late” last night.
You think the election result diff between 2013 and 2016 is evidence of “lunar right arguments”?
How so?
The numbers are the numbers, unless you think wiki has fiddled around with election results.
You made a silly statement earlier yesterday evening that “Turnbull did better than Abbott”
Here is your original post:
Link: https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/11/02/newspoll-57-43-to-labor-open-thread-3/comment-page-10/#comment-4619550
I refuted it with the poll data from wiki. What’s your issue? More to the point, what’s your point.
If you think a 1 seat majority is “better” than a 14 seat majority – I’m all ears.
As for your comment “where was Abbott in the polls”?
Who cares. He screwed up his Prime Minister ship with the 2014 Budget and “Knights & Dames”.
As for Turnbull – from memory he had 33 consecutive negative Newspolls. A real winner.
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nadia
When Malcolm Turnbull was PM, journalist Niki Savva was a regular guest on ‘Insiders’.
Everytime she was on ‘Insiders’, her oft repeated phrases with a glum were face “Turnbull had a bad week or bad couple of weeks or bad month.
CPG desperately wanted Turnbull to succeed as PM but he did not have political smarts to succeed as PM. Dutton and Cormann were supposed to be his closest confidants. In the end they politically stabbed him in the back.
Even to this day I chuckle when I think of the article in SMH, where the opinion writer said that Turnbull can be PM as long as he wanted. Women journalists were effusive in praise of Turnbull when he was PM. Another shocking revelation was that Guardian’s Lennore Taylor and Murphyroo received financial assistance from Turnbulls to keep Guardian afloat during his time as PM.
He was CPG god given PM. But all his political failures were political self goals.
@Kirsdarke – that’s a fact, not a wish.
There’s a reason why the Coalition under Sussan Ley hasn’t moved to the left. It simply cannot afford it. The vast majority of the Liberal caucus are firmly toward the right. So are the vast majority of Liberal Party members and Liberal Party voters. Trying to be “Labor lite” will only cause their primary vote to deteriorate further and be lost to One Nation, with preference leakage as a consequence.
The only certain way back into power is a united, consolidated Conservative Party with ON being co-opted, with Pauline getting a major ministry or even the deputy leadership.
Yeah Upnorth.
Chrisafulli has the benefit of incumbency, whereas Battin doesn’t.
Battin’s polling is not too flash. 37% on one poll (which is OK) and about 32% on another recent.
State Labor is holding up in the 30’s, with the Greens vote holding up in Vic at around 13%.
Battin announced mid year a policy to re-open gas fields
Link: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/15/victorian-liberal-leader-brad-battin-distances-state-party-from-peter-dutton-nuclear-proposal
State Labor hasn’t got the gloves off on this policy as yet, but no doubt next year the obvious questions will be posed as the election draws near. ie:
1. Where will the gas fields be,
2. If on land, will you take farmers’ property, &
3. Will there be compensation
With Senator Jane Hume behind Battin’s back with a knife (or machete), I’m sure this is all going to work out ok. Not!
Spy chief Mike Burgess has likened tactics used by Islamic extremist group Hizb ut-Tahrir with neo-Nazis and warned of a realistic possibility that hostile regimes could replicate Iran’s direction of anti-Semitic attacks and “attempt to assassinate” dissidents in Australia. Amid calls for the Albanese government to proscribe Hizb ut-Tahrir as a terrorist organisation, the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation director-general on Tuesday night accused the group of using anti-Israel rhetoric to fuel and normalise “wider anti-Semitic narratives”.
Delivering the Lowy Lecture in Sydney on Tuesday night, Mr Burgess said the religiously motivated Hizb ut-Tahrir’s “provocative behaviour, offensive rhetoric and insidious strategy” was “very similar” to National Socialist Network tactics. “The organisation’s condemnation of Israel and Jews attracts media attention and aids recruitment, but it deliberately stops short of promoting onshore acts of politically motivated violence,” Mr Burgess said. “Hizb ut-Tahrir wants to test and stretch the boundaries of legality without breaking them. As with the neo-Nazis, this does not make its behaviour acceptable. I fear its anti-Israel rhetoric is fuelling and normalising wider anti-Semitic narratives.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/asio-chief-links-hizb-uttahrir-and-neonazis-warns-hostile-nations-could-assassinate-dissidents/news-story/e57bc049dd17fdd9583a78a54de30d2c?amp
D&M, meher, frednk & upnorth
Seeing as you’re talking about it, I chip in a few dollars every so often too.
It’s a great site with some ripper posters atm.
Landlubber @ #961 Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 – 8:51 pm
So you think it’s a fact that all the world needs is far-right wing white ethnostate assholes winning power everywhere and that solves all of history.
Let’s see how that goes in the next few years.
The absence of a spare tyre in the Polestar is common to most new EVs.
Our Nissan Leaf ZE1 is the same. Same on my brother’s Kia EV6.
EV designers have learnt that the best place to put the battery is as a flat tray under the whole passenger cabin and boot. This makes most EVs sit a little bit higher on the road than a ICE car but all the weight is down low and is great for stability and safety. The downside is that it often means there is no space under the boot for a spare.
@nadia –
Abbott won in 2013 specifically off two things. The RGR chaos and his own promising NOT to be the Mad Monk and snowing all the moderate press gallery types who breathlessly said he would be a safe pair of hands. His 2013 victory was not a victory for far right politics.
Abbott then unleashed his Mad Monkness, dived in the polls and was out in record time. That better reflects what Australians thought of a lunar right ideologue.
Turnbull then obtained a bounce back to save government for the Coalition after taking leadership with them in a losing position. To treat it as him losing ground on Abbott 2013 ignores the order of events.
I would further argue that the problem Turnbull had after that (and even in the election campaign) was he was hamstrung by the Liberal right and did NOT pursue the “Labor lite” policies expected of him, especially on climate change, and indeed infamously attacked renewables after the S.A. blackouts. He thus failed to win over the centrist voters he was meant to win over. The Liberal Party never actually tacked to the left on anything.
As for being infamously behind in all those Newspolls, we can’t even be sure he actually was considering the polls proved to be systematically wrong at the election.
Again, if you think Morrison won over swinging voters by being more right wing, you and Angus Taylor are welcome to the delusion, but surely we all saw how well pushing to the right went for Peter Dutton. That’s the clearest example you could hope to see. There’s nobody with clearer right wing credentials in the Australian polity than Peter Dutton, he who boycotted the apology to the Stolen Generations. He anchored his opposition punching down on Indigenous people and saying anything he heard on Sky After Dark. And what did it get him, Labor on 94 seats.
But by all means, look at Abbott winning by a bigger margin than Turnbull and interpret that data as meaning the Libs do better by going to the right.
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Upnorthsays:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 7:41 pm
Confessionssays:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 7:30 pm
As the net zero issue blew up on Monday, Opposition Leader Sussan Ley’s two leadership rivals talked politics and the future of the Liberal Party over a pad Thai dinner.
Angus Taylor, Andrew Hastie and a group of conservatives met at Chong Co – a restaurant in the Kingston Foreshore precinct in Canberra, below the penthouse where Malcolm Turnbull once met allies to discuss Tony Abbott’s fate as prime minister.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-contenders-share-a-thai-dinner-as-ley-s-leadership-is-tested-20251104-p5n7ns.html
Is the mention of going to a Thai restaurant meant to signal a break from the Dutton era, showing their willingness to embrace multiculturalism?
中华人民共和国
Most Thais I know aren’t that keen in Pad Thai. It’s an invented dish forced on them by a Fascist Aligned Dictator during the War.
“Pad Thai’s history is rooted in 1930s Thailand, when Prime Minister Plaek Phibunsongkhram promoted it as a national dish to foster unity and reduce rice consumption during World War II. While noodle dishes had Chinese origins, Phibun’s government standardized and popularized a distinct Thai version with a unique blend of sour, sweet, and salty flavors, distributing recipes and even providing vendors with carts to help spread the dish nationwide. This government-led initiative successfully created a national dish that is now a staple of Thai cuisine.”
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I like Pad Thai. Infact, I like most of Thai dishes. Yummy!
nadia88 says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 8:55 pm
D&M, meher, frednk & upnorth
Seeing as you’re talking about it, I chip in a few dollars every so often too.
It’s a great site with some ripper posters atm.
中华人民共和国
Good on ya cobber and thanks again to William – the “Working Persons” Antony Green.
I hope the Libs follow Landlubber’s advice and submit completely to the other cooker parties. I’m getting a bit bored with their slow demise.
Upnorthsays:
Good on ya cobber and thanks again to William – the “Working Persons” Antony Green.
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Oh he’ll love that. Not that I even know what it means, but it doesn’t seem great.
Thank you, donors.
The amazing thing about Abbott time in the Lodge was how quickly he derailed. The first challenge – “the empty chair” – came about after the Australia Day in 2015 which was barely 16 months into the job. The wheels were coming off that quickly. The fact that Abbott and Credlin still have any credibility is frankly amazing.
Plus another thing that is amazing is how unpopular Turnbull was the first time leading – his preferred PM figures at the end were in the teens. They were almost as bad as Nelsons.
nath says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 9:05 pm
Upnorthsays:
Good on ya cobber and thanks again to William – the “Working Persons” Antony Green.
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Oh he’ll love that. Not that I even know what it means, but it doesn’t seem great.
中华人民共和国
Hey you pipe down or you’ll have to share a Queen size bed with me on the future Melbourne trip.
Any chance you’ll get up to Sydney for the PB knees up December 19???
@Landlubber – you’ve hit on the basic problem the Liberal Party has there but leaped from “this is what the Liberal Party has to do to satisfy the bulk of their members and parliamentarians” to “this is the way back to power”.
Actually, the Liberal Party’s increasingly extreme membership, which is increasingly unrepresentative of Australia as a whole, is dragging them away from power. If the membership gets their way of making the Libs into One Nation lite, the Libs will simply cease to be a party of government. They’ll be stable, united, and irrelevant loonies raving on the fringes.
Upnorthsays:
Hey you pipe down or you’ll have to share a Queen size bed with me on the future Melbourne trip.
Any chance you’ll get up to Sydney for the PB knees up December 19???
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Only if Omar is coming. I intend to strip the paint off that boy.
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nadia88says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 7:59 pm
Mavis says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 7:45 pm
[‘The latest on Trump’s approval rating
Happy Halloween, Silver Bulletin readers! If there’s anything spooking Donald Trump today, it’s probably his approval numbers over the past few days. At the start of the week, Trump’s net approval rating in our average was -9.2. That’s right around where it had been all month. But as of today, Trump’s net approval rating has hit a new second term low of -10.8.
Why such a large drop? Because the polls released this week have been consistently bad for Trump. He’s seen some less negative results from Morning Consult (net -5) and Clarity Campaign Labs (-6), but everything else looks rough:
Verasight/Strength in Numbers: -15
Quinnipiac University: -14
YouGov/The Economist: -19
Ipsos/Reuters: -17
YouGov/Yahoo News: -16
Navigator Research: -16′]
Even the pollsters that usually give Trump his best numbers — Rasmussen Reports and RMG Research — have his approval rating underwater this week, at net -8 and -1, respectively. -EMD, 10/31/25.’]
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Thanks Mavis!
I see they’ve included that 37% approval poll too from CNN in the Silver Bulletin List.
That was his lowest ever approval rating.
The U.S. public are chipping away at him. Takes time, but it happens.
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nadia
That number 37% is rock solid MAGA base. They will never abandon him at any cost to them, come what may.
There is another 3-5 %, who are diehard Republican party supporters. The rest 7-8% are the swing voters, mostly so called ‘Independent’ voters, who were Republican party voters, but no longer wanted to be identified as Republican.
B. S. Fairman @ #972 Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 – 9:09 pm
Abbott and Credlin are strongly gifted in the art of gaslighting. That whole “Sir Prince Philip” thing never existed don’t you know, and how dare you even speak of it, you liar. (/s)
Arky says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 9:00 pm
@nadia –
Abbott won in 2013 specifically off two things. The RGR chaos and his own promising NOT to be the Mad Monk and snowing all the moderate press gallery types who breathlessly said he would be a safe pair of hands. His 2013 victory was not a victory for far right politics.
Abbott then unleashed his Mad Monkness, dived in the polls and was out in record time. That better reflects what Australians thought of a lunar right ideologue.
Turnbull then obtained a bounce back to save government for the Coalition after taking leadership with them in a losing position. To treat it as him losing ground on Abbott 2013 ignores the order of events.
I would further argue that the problem Turnbull had after that (and even in the election campaign) was he was hamstrung by the Liberal right and did NOT pursue the “Labor lite” policies expected of him, especially on climate change, and indeed infamously attacked renewables after the S.A. blackouts. He thus failed to win over the centrist voters he was meant to win over. The Liberal Party never actually tacked to the left on anything.
As for being infamously behind in all those Newspolls, we can’t even be sure he actually was considering the polls proved to be systematically wrong at the election.
Again, if you think Morrison won over swinging voters by being more right wing, you and Angus Taylor are welcome to the delusion, but surely we all saw how well pushing to the right went for Peter Dutton. That’s the clearest example you could hope to see. There’s nobody with clearer right wing credentials in the Australian polity than Peter Dutton, he who boycotted the apology to the Stolen Generations. He anchored his opposition punching down on Indigenous people and saying anything he heard on Sky After Dark. And what did it get him, Labor on 94 seats.
But by all means, look at Abbott winning by a bigger margin than Turnbull and interpret that data as meaning the Libs do better by going to the right.
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The electoral facts speak for themselves Arky.
Abbott had a 14 seat majority, and Turnbull had a 1 seat majority.
For you to assert that Turnbull was “better” simply doesn’t make sense, but by all means believe that if you wish. The electoral realities show a different picture. Sorry, I don’t make the figures up on wiki.
As for your comment, “you and Angus Taylor are welcome to the delusion”
Where the heck has this come from???????
You threw that one in as a bit of “drastic whataboutism”.
I have to say, I didn’t pick you as a Turnbull supporter. I thought you were Labor.
On the decline of rugby union and the Melbourne Cup, I can’t really comment on the former living in SA and being a Lions fan.
But the Melbourne Cup means nothing to me these days. From the news I am happy that a female jockey won and glad no horse was hurt, but that is all.
nadia88 says:
“Who is there to replace her?
* Wilson. He’s from the moderate wing. Looks like they’re losing control of the Libs
* Hastie
* “Teddy Bear” O’Brien. – He comes across as fairly harmless.
* Price – wrong house, and bogged down in litigation atm
* Taylor – Probably the best of a bad bunch.”
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They could probably each have a lash at it, for about as long as they’ve given Ley, before the next election is due.
Ven says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 9:12 pm
nadia
That number 37% is rock solid MAGA base. They will never abandon him at any cost to them, come what may.
There is another 3-5 %, who are diehard Republican party supporters. The rest 7-8% are the swing voters, mostly so called ‘Independent’ voters, who were Republican party voters, but no longer wanted to be identified as Republican.
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Fair enough Ven,
The “hard base” was sitting at the low/mid 40’s, but yesterday’s CNN poll on the Silver Bulletin link provided by Mavis showed the first poll sub 40 (ie: 37). I think it’s of note, as it’s the first time he’s fallen below 40 of recent.
Having said that, the other figures still show his “hard base” around the 42% mark.
Another blog post that stuck with me.
https://thethiefandtheairbender.tumblr.com/post/796282402172485632
At least you know what you’re voting for with The White Australia Party. You have to give them points for honesty at least.
Where did this cockamamie idea that numbers on a Wikipedia page tell the whole political story come from?
Holy Cow! Trump’s Approval Sinks BELOW Biden’s Post-Debate Nadir
https://youtu.be/xXcATlE2j7w?si=YXcyBTs0DID30aV8
This is a video on the latest American poll results with discussion about the Dems polling as well.
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Landlubbersays:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 8:44 pm
Pauline Hanson to speak at CPAC in Florida. Seems like she is going to be what the world sees as the “real” Prime Minister of Australia, a view that is shared by a myriad of people at Facebook.
Combined ON and Coalition primary vote well in excess of 40%, far ahead of the 35-36% that Labor can achieve, at best.
The days of wishy-washy Third Way what-passes-for-social-democracy are numbered.
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Another Hanson supporter.
“Seems like she is going to be what the world sees as the “real” Prime Minister of Australia”
Dream on, I say.
“Combined ON and Coalition primary vote well in excess of 40%
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But combined ALPand Greens primary vote exceeds 47%.
B. S. Fairman says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 9:09 pm
The amazing thing about Abbott time in the Lodge was how quickly he derailed.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Australian_federal_budget#Critical_reception
The GOP’s Shutdown Strategy Is Collapsing | Behind the Numbers with Rick & Andrew Wilson
https://youtu.be/IZQ-i36_RHA?si=e-_4JAnNvf3t1ny7
Lots of lovely graphs!
Ven,
It was sooo obvious that Landlubber left out The Greens from the LW side of the equation. I don’t know why he expected people to believe him. Especially when Liberals + Nationals are in Coalition (still just), but One Nation are not but he treated them as though they are in the Coalition in order to make his argument. Labor and The Greens aren’t in Coalition either but ~80 of their preferences go to Labor, whereas One Nation preferences spray around.
Ven,
I know you’ve been following French politics somewhat.
New poll about Macron.
Approval now at 11%, apparently the lowest on record.
Link: https://evrimagaci.org/gpt/macron-faces-recordlow-approval-amid-french-political-crisis-514811
This chart here “smooths” out the French polls.
Link: https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-approval-rating-drops-historic-low/
If you scroll down… Approval averaging at 18%, and Disapproval at 81%
Shocking figures. Sir Keir is not quite at that stage. He’s in the minus 50’s
UK Budget update:
– “Each of us must do our bit” as she refused to rule out raising income tax
– Productivity problem “inherited” from Tories is “worse than previously thought”
– Called it a “growth Budget, with fairness at its heart”
– Blamed Brexit, previous Tory policies and global pressures for the weak economy, saying the world has “thrown more challenges our way” – including tariffs and lingering inflation
– Confirmed Government debt is now £2.6tn, around 94% of national income – “no accounting trick can change that fact”
– “I will make the necessary choices to deliver strong economic foundations” to cut NHS waiting lists, cut debt and cut cost of living
So the UK Government debt is about $5 trillion Australian whereas ours is about A$1 trillion i.e. theirs is 5 times as big
UK population is 70 million. Australia is 27 million i.e UK is 2.6 as big
So our debt is about half of the UK per head of population.
C@tmomma says:
Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 9:30 pm
Where did this cockamamie idea that numbers on a Wikipedia page tell the whole political story come from?
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It’s alright c@t, I fixed it all up.
Arky got all confused last night at 12.05 am asserting that “Turnbull did better than Abbott”.
I corrected the record with the wiki electoral facts on the 2013 and 2016 elections.
If you think wiki doesn’t tell the whole story, or it’s possibly fake (maybe rigged), then the electoral data is available on the AEC website.
I put it down to a “late night” post of Arky’s.
Another poster stepped in at 12.29 am, with a comment to Arky of,
“Maybe we could leave this for a while?”
I probably should’ve said the same thing, but I’d already logged off.
Anyway, it’s been all cleared up.
It is interesting to look at the drivers behind the Westpac result, announced last Monday
The lending book totals $773 billion
Customer Deposits total $641 billion – yes customer deposits are $641 billion across a population of 27 million people (including children)
There are 13 million customers served
Both lending and deposits are growing at a healthy rate noting that the Home Mortgage lending includes principal plus interest repayments, so reducing the loan book with the increase read in this context
The roll back needs to be covered before any growth
Housing Loan arrears over 30 days are at a historical low of 1.2% of the book – then you have a healthy figure of pre payments
The summary is that there are plenty of people doing very, very well thank you – noting that superannuation accruals and equity in home ownership add to the net wealth of households
$641 billion in customer deposits – that figure is worth repeating
We await the reporting of the other banks but could assume they will replicate Westpac
In regards home mortgages a Loan to Valuation Ratio needs to be satisfied plus the ability to service needs to be satisfied – and the book grows Net of PI repayments with minimal arrears
Plus there needs to be a willing seller and a willing buyer because that is the market
Noting this data, not covered in media reporting, where are the headlines of hardship coming from because you could put it is not from Westpac clients?
Up to date at least with their mortgage repayments and with cash in the bank
These are the reasons our banks present as they do – profits, dividends and share prices
And another observation
There are some who bemoan the wealth of older citizens – noting the contributor to wealth is compounding and time
Our more elderly represent time in that equation – unlike our younger generations
It is time we called out the reporting we are subjected to and query why the reporting is what it is
And I would suggest, wo betide any government calling out the media narrative as false, and citing the figures being reported by Westpac (for starters)
Bizzcan – Yes, the 2014 budget was a shocker. As I said it was amazing how bad he was at governing. Classic Wrecker, not a Builder.
A Conservative/One Nation party would win seats in the senate, the idea of the party forming government without some sort of coalition is a fantasy.
Robert Menzies said the Liberal Party was a progressive party, not a conservative party, and Australia was a more conservative country back then.
@nadia – I am not in any way a Turnbull supporter. I have always pointed out how bad his political judgement is and how much of a fraud he was while the likes of Lenore Taylor and Katharine Murphy were talking up how any day now he would solve the climate wars in Australia forever and usher in a Golden Age.
This is even the real explanation for why Morrison (probably – see caveat about that year’s polling) did better than Turnbull. Not because right-wing policies were more popular, but because Morrison was better at political warfare than Turnbull.
All we’re talking about here is whether the Liberals do better by trying to capture the centre or better by pushing right.
Your “Abbott won by more seats than Turnbull so they do better pushing to the right” analysis is grossly simplistic and I’ve explained why. It also ignores that Dutton lost by a metric shitton pushing more to the right than any of them, and in his case I’d say the right wing ideologue policy positions were pretty clearly responsible for that.
If the Liberals do what I expect and make themselves One Nation lite under say Angus Taylor, with no commitment to net zero and a continued commitment to anything said on Sky After Dark, they will lose by an increased margin (which should barely even be possible) and then some of them will still insist they weren’t far right enough. You can keep a receipt on this prediction
Edit – and you have not earned the right to be so patronising. Apparently it was a mistake to try and be gracious after the 2025 election result instead of joining in with c@t to dance on your confidently made wrong predictions.
Cat
“ Labor and The Greens aren’t in Coalition either but ~80 of their preferences go to Labor, whereas One Nation preferences spray around.”
I scrutineered at one booth in Sturt in May. There were Liberal, Labor, Green, Teal and PHON running in the former blue ribbon Liberal seat.
Not only did Labor pick up 85% of Green preferences on a sample count I did in my booth. They also got 85% of the Teal preferences too. Labor got 40% of Teal preferences directly, plus many more flowed back via Teal preferences to the Greens who then preferenced Labor over Lib (and PHON).
Labor’s preference flow was crushing. It was all over before 7:30, in a big booth that is very blue.
Wow! If you think our Energy bills are rising and that’s not a good thing…I was just listening to Rick Wilson and he said that Energy bills in the US are going up for some people by 100s of dollars a month(!!!) as they are being forced to pay by their energy providers for the massive amount of energy being sucked up by data centres to feed the AI boom!
Turnbull’s problem was his judgement, not him being a moderate. Turnbull made the mistake of acting one way before becoming PM, only to act differently once in the job. Albo has avoided doing it.
Fred
“Diogenes
I read the article. A lot of whinging but not much on what they want to see as the alternative.”
I think Labor should be promoting better remuneration for longer appointments. Those sort out the more chronic problems. Supermarket queue medicine by whoever is on the checkout is killing Medicare and the hospitals. Every metric is getting worse.
Butler is way too smug and slow. It will be worse by the next election.