RedBridge Group: 54-46 to Labor (open thread)

A new poll finds Labor remaining dominant over the Coalition as One Nation surges still further.

The Financial Review has a RedBridge Group/Accent Research poll giving Labor a lead of 54-46, out from 53.5-46.5 at the last such poll a month ago, from primary votes of Labor 34% (down one), Coalition 29% (down one), Greens 11% (steady), and a surging One Nation on 14% (up three). The accompanying report reveals One Nation is at 13% among millennials, 15% among Gen-X and 17% among baby boomers – I hope to have more to offer in the way of demographic breakdowns later today.

The poll also finds an 37% for and against the notion that the Coalition should drop its support for net zero; 35% holding that the Albanese government has the right priorities, with 47% disagreeing; and 16% holding that Sussan Ley’s Coalition is ready for government, with 55% disagreeing. It was conducted September 25 to October 7 from a sample of 1997.

UPDATE: Full results here – unfortunately not including any state breakdowns on this occasion, but together with the One Nation age breakdowns cited above, we learn that its support among the youngest cohort (“Gen-Z”, presumably meaning 18-34) is well below the others at 6%.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Another PV movement in a poll towards PHON, soaking up a bit from Others, Coalitions and Labor about equally. But TPP has edged leftwards.

    Does RedBridge do TPP respondent allocated, or last election preference flows?

  2. 54-46 gave me a minor shock for a moment before seeing it was actually a +0.5% boost on the last poll from them.

    Surging One Nation on the back of boomers and octogenarians abandoning the coalition to move even further right while the Coalition flounders? And maybe more podcast bros in the below 40’s shifting by a few percent. How big would their 14% have to get before they look like getting into the 2PP race for seats? And would that be Lib outer suburban areas? LNP in QLD? Nationals in NSW?

    37% for and 37% against for Net Zero suggests Labor has got a good balance. Australia should be working toward renewables for their benefit to society & ongoing cost reductions, but without being the Greens “back to the stone age” views that we need to murder all our industry & tourism even though it’ll be a drop in the ocean compared to what the USA & India will be emitting.

    Have there been any polls done on the Coalition nukes?

    The 16% who said “yeah, Ley is ready for Government” when she’s about ready to get a knife in the back and they’ve done zero policy work should be identified to the AEC and banned from voting for life, unless they can confirm they were taking the piss and saying it for a laugh.

  3. subgeometer says:
    Friday, October 10, 2025 at 8:11 pm
    That’s even more nuts than giving the Peace prize to Trump. How has Maria Corina Machado advanced any of the objectives?. It’s as bad as the Archibald prize got when they were hanging the artists studio model as a significant person in Australian life

    That she has dedicated her Nobel Peace Prize to Donald Trump, says it all for me.

    Why do people like her feel the need to suck up to that guy?

  4. C@tmomma, Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 6:11 am:

    So a Putin fan boy against a Trump fan girl? Talk about Ick!
    Venezuela deserves better.

    I hear what you’re saying, but right now the squeeze needs to be put on Putin as hard as the world can manage it, so every little poke in Putin’s eye is worth it.

    Domestically, she is pro-LGBTQI+, pro-choice, and pro universal access to education, so she isn’t in the same category as the likes of Milei or Bolsanaro as far as I can see.

  5. Stuart, Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 6:24 am:

    “Fun fact: her opponent, Venezuelan leader Maduro, is definitely in the pro-Putin camp.”

    So is her hero, Donald J. Trump.

    True, probably. (The US has been edging back a little towards helping Ukraine lately, but nowhere near as much as they should.)

    I see this Nobel Prize choice as being more anti-Maduro than pro-Trump, and so by extension more anti-Putin than pro-Trump. Anyway, Putin is much worse than Trump, so I am happy enough with this Nobel Prize choice.

  6. French President Emmanuel Macron is looking to fix his governing crisis by forging a grand coalition of the ‘sensible centre’, against the intransigent extremes of left and right – by expanding outwards the group of those who he’s prepared to encompass within that ‘sensible centre’:

    “Macron summons parties for crunch meeting in frantic effort to appoint PM:
    All parties except National Rally and La France Insoumise called on by president to show ‘collective responsibility’”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/10/macron-summons-parties-france-pm-crisis

    Emmanuel Macron has summoned the leaders of several political parties to his office to demand they show “collective responsibility” as he attempts to appoint a new prime minister amid a deepening political crisis.

    All political parties except Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally, which is the biggest single opposition party, and Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s leftwing La France Insoumise were called to the meeting at the presidential palace before Macron’s self-imposed deadline to name a new prime minister by Friday night.

    Parties including the Socialists, Greens and Les Républicains received the invitation at 2am in a sign of the frantic effort to resolve a seemingly intractable political crisis.

  7. Maduro most deifnitely sucks but it always baffles me how insanely biased the media is against the venezuelan government. All of it reads like US propaganda, and it probably is, the NYT is always at hand to make somebody who has experienced the same level of political violence as Julia Gillard seem like the brave unferdog taking down the spawn of evil.

  8. Insiders Sunday, 12 Oct

    David Speers joins Waleed Aly, Melissa Clarke and Paul Sakkal to discuss the week in parliament, Optus and the Triple Zero outage, and Liberal Party turmoil. Plus John Lyons and Matthew Doran with latest on a Gaza ceasefire.

    GUEST : Melissa McIntosh – Shadow Communications Minister

  9. It was a bit strange seeing people on the previous thread imply that the rise in the One Nation vote is somehow a negative for the Greens, whose vote has stayed the same

    Strange logic imo

    I’m hopeful the ceasefire holds in Gaza, and progress is made towards Palestinian statehood.

    If so, this will allow for a change in focus for the Greens away from the genocide and back to domestic issues including the environment and crucially cost of living

    That’s where I think they can win votes

  10. Anyway, Putin is much worse than Trump, so I am happy enough with this Nobel Prize choice.

    “Splitting hair” in and about the degree of atrocity!
    Would a Russian “yellow” wig comb over do the trick?
    The desire to rule by compulsive decree seems an omnipresent trend across a variety of national leadership positions and the cause of constant alarm.
    The PMship of Anthony Albanese must present in a comfortable light for many around the globe.
    The polling does continue to suggest some hanker for a title more “shirt front”!
    However many in Australia seem comfortable in Albanese’s slippers at the moment!
    (Regardless of the colour of one’s safety vest)

  11. Justice delayed is justice denied (or something like that)

    The first trial of the AWH three (Tony Kelly, Eddie Obeid and Joe Tripodi) has ended in a hung jury. The case alleges these three ministers forged a cabinet brief that would have given them personal control of the Sydney Water Board. The incident occurred in 2010 and was recommended for prosecution by ICAC in 2014 but through legal shennanigans has taken 11 more years to get to court.
    The fourth accused, the public servant who drafted the alleged forgery, was given immunity for giving evidence against the other three. However, when in the box, he said his health had deteriorated in the last 11 years and he “couldn’t remember anything about anything”. He couldn’t even remember that he had once been a senior public servant.
    I don’t think I would like to be in the witness’ shoes

  12. A graphic on the Redbridge/AFR poll

    Just on PHON resurgence, I did notice some Senate Estimates involvement by them.

    The PH herself made an appearance at Home Affairs and made a number of anti-immigration statements.

    And Malcolm Roberts pushed his conspiracy theories in various committees, but with a noticeably shaking right arm and hand. He has missed Estimates in the past for undisclosed health reasons.

  13. And why the plummet down the drain hole by the once proud Party of Menzies? Tony Barry from the AFR write up…

    Redbridge director Tony Barry said lurching further to the right was not the solution.

    “Across all responses, it’s clear that pivoting to a conservative, right-wing, climate-denying position only appeals to a narrow minority of former Coalition voters,” he said.

    The Redbridge poll showed the top reasons voters had abandoned the Coalition were “I no longer know what it stands for”, “it is too divided”, and “it no longer represents people like me”.

  14. One more snippet from the AFR which could be portending something…

    Next Saturday, October 18, One Nation founder and leader Hanson will launch her party’s New England branch in the NSW city of Tamworth after the entire branch membership defected from the Nationals.

    Local member Barnaby Joyce said it was an either-or scenario.

    “If you talk about winning back teal seats

    in the cities

    , that’s great,” he said.

    “You’ve got a vastly different problem in regional Australia.”

  15. https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/10/11/redbridge-group-54-46-to-labor-open-thread/#comment-4609737

    The PV of the two major parties, well Labs and Libs/ Nats is down to a combined 63%.
    Though I suppose shit lite, even if centrist, blue Libs lite Labs smell of liberal rather than direct or social democracy, is better than full of shit.
    I do hope the opposition sorts itself out, and with the crossbench presents more of an alternative to the returned Aus fed gov from 2025.
    After all progressing/ advancing Australia, fair, through ideas, promises, policies isn’t limited to any particular party.
    Besides for most on shore beats near shore or off shore, be it governance (NACC, campaign finance reform, FoI, mandatory and binding referendums for more direct democracy), power$hift, climate, inequality/ inequity, health …
    I’ll be interesting where the various ICJ/ ICC cases go, even Denial to Euphrates River, eastern Med Riviera, ceasefire in the Holy Land or not.

  16. Interesting with New England and the One Nation / Nationals stuff going on

    The right Community Independent would walk it in up there, Tony Windsor showed they can do it

    Is Barnaby going to join One Nation?

  17. C@ts
    My prediction is that we won’t see a grand coalition until the combined primaries of the two majors gets to 45 – my guess is 2030 at the earliest.
    The rise of a strong third force could rapidly bring this forward

  18. Good Morning! Here’s Your Saturday Lazy Breakfast News and Views Roundup

    In the debate about more federal MPs, let’s ask how we get better ones too. Bevan Shields
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    Liberal Party factions: The split in the Right that is reshaping the political landscape. James Massola
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-party-factions-the-split-in-the-right-that-is-reshaping-the-opposition-20250903-p5ms5b.html

    The Tory Implosion Offers a Warning for Both Parties in America (and Australia)
    Once the model for modern conservatism, Britain’s Tories are now flailing for relevance — and embracing Trump-style populism as a lifeline. By Jonathan Martin
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/10/10/tories-conservatives-trumpism-immigration-00600610

    Exclusive: Abbott ‘disappointed’ by Andrew Hastie as right splinters. By Karen Barlow
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2025/10/11/exclusive-abbott-disappointed-andrew-hastie-right-splinters

    ‘Libspill’: Hastie and other anti-liberal Antics By Michelle Pini
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/-libspill-hastie-and-other-anti-liberal-antics,20256

    Coalition frontbencher tries to reframe immigration policy debate
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-10/paul-scarr-reframes-immigration-policy-debate/105878470

    Liberal immigration spokesman Paul Scarr has taken a swipe at his former frontbench colleagues Andrew Hastie and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, welcoming debate about Australia’s immigration levels but warning it “must not seek to inflame emotion”.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/scarr-takes-a-swipe-at-hastie-price-over-immigration-20251010-p5n1lj.html

    Hastie’s got the right stuff but one obsession may fast-track or derail his ambitions.
    Peter Hartcher
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/hastie-s-got-the-right-stuff-but-one-obsession-may-fast-track-or-derail-his-ambitions-20251010-p5n1km.html

    Liberals find brief lull in internal hostilities for a passable week. Jacob Greber
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-11/coalition-andrew-hastie-tony-pasin-anika-wells-chris-bowen/105858494

    Happy birthday, Liberal Party of Australia. Chris Wallace
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/comment/topic/2025/10/10/happy-birthday-liberal-party-australia

    Dirt-rich nation: Australia’s big test to plug in to the future. Brooke Boney
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dirt-rich-nation-australia-s-big-test-to-plug-in-to-the-future-20251008-p5n0yv.html

    The Albanese government has already approved 31 fossil fuel projects, and more than that are waiting, even as renewables overtake coal as the top source of electricity. By Mike Seccombe.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/environment/2025/10/11/labors-slate-fossil-fuel-approvals

    The health department says it will take about four years to see the benefits of the government’s signature Medicare funding boost. Officials also told a senate estimates hearing average out-of-pocket costs to see a GP would continue rising. The lifted bulk billing incentive starts from November.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-10/bulk-billing-incentive-boost-may-not-flow-for-years/105877228

    Wayne Swan How super strengthens Australian democracy
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/comment/topic/2025/10/11/how-super-strengthens-australian-democracy

    Israel will not include Marwan Barghouti, its most prominent Palestinian detainee, in its hostage-for-prisoner exchange with Hamas.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-refuses-to-release-palestinian-mandela-20251010-p5n1i6.html

    Palestinians displaced to southern Gaza begin journey home as ceasefire comes into effect
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/10/palestinians-displaced-gaza-home-ceasefire-israel-hamas

    Hamas praises Trump but says Tony Blair not welcome in post-war Gaza role
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/oct/10/gaza-ceasefire-plan-israel-donald-trump-hamas-palestine-benjamin-netanyahu-middle-east-latest-news

    Profile: Blair, Kushner, Trump: who are the key people behind the Gaza ceasefire?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/10/blair-kushner-trump-who-are-the-key-people-behind-the-gaza-ceasefire

    Trump’s 20-point plan to end Gaza war – and how it might still unravel
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/trumps-20-point-plan-to-end-gaza-war-and-how-it-might-unravel-20251010-p5n1i7.html

    Donald Trump deserves credit for stopping the war on Gaza, but his key claim is overblown.
    John Lyons
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-11/donald-trump-gaza-ceasefire-plan-lyons-analysis/105880080

    How Donald Trump’s ‘dead cat diplomacy’ may have changed the course of the Gaza war
    https://theconversation.com/how-donald-trumps-dead-cat-diplomacy-may-have-changed-the-course-of-the-gaza-war-266701

    The Gaza ceasefire deal could be a ‘strangle contract’, with Israel holding all the cards
    https://theconversation.com/the-gaza-ceasefire-deal-could-be-a-strangle-contract-with-israel-holding-all-the-cards-267208

    Hamas is trusting Trump as his ‘eternal peace’ in Gaza turns into a shaky ceasefire
    By Middle East correspondent Eric Tlozek
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-10/analysis-trump-eternal-peace-in-gaza-turns-into-shaky-ceasefire/105874742

    Trump’s tragedy: the US becomes an autocracy and the presidency, a dictatorship. Emma Shortis
    https://theconversation.com/trumps-tragedy-the-us-becomes-an-autocracy-and-the-presidency-a-dictatorship-266675

    Donald Trump didn’t receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Experts say he had ‘no chance’ of winning
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-10/donald-trump-no-chance-at-winning-peace-prize/105878636

    Albanese government risks failure to live up to its own pledges of increased transparency
    Introduced without consultation, the attorney general’s planned overhaul of freedom of information is part of a worrying drift away from truth and transparency in government. Tom McIlroy
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/oct/11/albanese-government-risks-failure-to-live-up-to-its-own-pledges-of-increased-transparency

    Inside Albanese’s FOI reforms: ‘He hates transparency’. By Jason Koutsoukis
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/2025/10/11/inside-albaneses-foi-reforms-he-hates-transparency

    PM criticises Pocock’s ban from parliamentary sports club but dismisses concerns about betting lobby
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    NSW is desperate for more houses – but is it driving development towards wealthy parts of Sydney?
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    Voices group eyes Melbourne’s inner west in first tilt at Labor seats.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/voices-group-eyes-melbourne-s-inner-west-in-first-tilt-at-labor-seats-20251009-p5n1a6.html

    Victorian Precincts Minister Harriet Shing will this weekend add four new locations to the government’s Small Sites Program, which opens up blocks of surplus government land to the private sector to develop.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/battle-for-brighton-heats-up-with-train-station-car-parks-slashed-for-housing-20251010-p5n1o1.html

    The Victorian hospital at the forefront of tackling homelessness
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    The NT’s first Alice Springs-based police commissioner has a rocky road ahead
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    Venezuela’s Maria Corina Machado wins Nobel Peace Prize, sparking White House anger. David Crowe
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/venezuela-s-maria-corina-machado-wins-nobel-peace-prize-despite-intense-donald-trump-campaign-20251010-p5n1oh.html

    White House slams Trump’s perceived Nobel peace prize snub as ‘politics over peace’
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/10/trump-nobel-peace-prize-reaction

    Stephen Miller is the most dangerous man in the Trump administration. In the White House deputy chief of staff, we see that Maga will not simply end with Trump. We must keep our eyes on Miller
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/10/stephen-miller-trump-administration

    Donald Trump, due to meet Xi in about three weeks in South Korea, complained on social media about what he called China’s plans to hold the global economy hostage after China dramatically expanded its rare earths export controls on Thursday.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-no-reason-to-meet-xi-threatens-china-tariffs-in-new-rift-20251011-p5n1pt.html

    Stacked boards driving ‘rotten’ Australian university sector. Tim Moore
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/comment/topic/2025/10/11/stacked-boards-driving-rotten-university-sector

    Slaying monsters: Nine has its job cut out against the US tech giants.
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    Stan Grant The brain in a box in Melbourne
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/2025/10/11/the-brain-box

    Hungarian writer László Krasznahorkai has won the 2025 Nobel Prize in Literature for “his compelling and visionary oeuvre that, in the midst of apocalyptic terror, reaffirms the power of art”.
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    Continue voting today for The Australian Bird of the Year!
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  19. Meh. If I was Barnaby Joyce I wouldn’t lose sleep over One Nation. One Nation has no chance while Labor direct preferences against them.

    One Nation in their hey day won 11 state seats in the 1998 Queensland state election and 22%. But it didn’t translate to success at the federal level in winning house of representive seats later in the year and their vote in Queensland went down to 14%.

    One Nation have never done a ‘Nigel Farage’ federally despite gaining a couple of flash in the pan senators.

  20. A sight for sore eyes…..

    GOP butthurt that Dear Leader didn’t win the Nobel Peace Prize

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/10/10/2347904/-GOP-butthurt-that-Dear-Leader-didn-t-win-the-Nobel-Peace-Prize?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_7&pm_medium=web

    “Republicans are melting down after President Donald Trump did not win the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, going as far as to say they’ll make their own prizes to present to their Dear Leader as a participation trophy.

    It should go without saying that Trump does not deserve the world-renown award. He is ordering violent roundups of immigrants, sending in the military against his own citizens, and carrying out extrajudicial killings off the coast of South America

    But even if he did deserve it, virtually all of the supposed peace-making that Republicans attribute to him took place after Jan. 31, the deadline for the nomination process.

    Nevertheless, Republicans are condemning the Nobel committee and whining that their orange-tinted idol didn’t win the award he so desperately wants.

    “If Nobel wants to restore what used to be a once-dignified prize, they can restore their credibility by awarding President Trump the Nobel Peace Prize. He’s earned it,” House Majority Leader Steve Scalise said on Fox Business Friday morning. “He’s done more than any leader in the world in years to bring peace.”

    Me: Scalise is saying all wrong things regarding why Nobel peace prize lost its credibility.
    It lost a lot of its credibility due to other reasons not because it did not awarded it to Trump.
    Now, its credibility is based upon to whom it is not awarded than to whom it is awarded

    Article: “Then there were the real pick-me Republicans like Georgia Rep. Buddy Carter and New York Rep. Claudia Tenney.

    Trump

    deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. And that’s why I’m introducing a resolution … that will honor him with the Nobel Peace Prize,” Carter told Fox Business Friday morning. “And if need be, we’ll call for a discharge petition on that.””

  21. #TheKingOfLies
    I see a forest,
    with dark flames in the distance,
    and a fat, rude man.

    He’s lost and stumbling,
    led on by a vague promise,
    and a prize denied.

    Can a promise lead,
    a clumsy, ignorant man,
    a man such as that?

    (Maybe.)

  22. Trump overnight has imposed 100% tariffs on top of current tariffs from Nov 1 as he should on communist dictatorship China the Besties of the Australian labor party.
    Labor lets China walk all over us as their subsidies slowly kill off Australia’s income.
    Meanwhile labor spends billions propping up our industries smashed by Chinas subsidies adding to Australia’s debt.

    Iron ore is next aka BHP.

    The world is not going back to the fantasy of free trade and the whacky world the globalist labor federal government lives in.
    Trump stands up to bullies weak labor appeases them.

    Btw the NT police have a gov backing them on crime unlike the leftie crazy woke VIC gov and its incompetent politically correct police .

  23. President Trump said Friday he would hit China with a 100% additional tariff and impose new export controls on critical software products after Beijing placed new restrictions on the export of rare-earth minerals. The new measures would take effect Nov. 1, Trump said in a Truth Social post, which came after his earlier threats of retaliation sparked a market selloff that sent the S&P 500 to its worst day since April. Export controls would affect “any and all critical software,” he wrote. The measures could take effect even sooner, he added, “depending on any further actions or changes taken by China.”
    “It is impossible to believe that China would have taken such an action, but they have, and the rest is History,” Trump wrote. Average U.S. tariffs on goods from China currently stand around 57%, according to the Peterson Institute for International Economics. Trump’s action, if implemented, would push them up above 150%—the highest point they have been during his presidency. Trump earlier this year imposed tariffs of 145% on China, before paring them back after a series of meetings with officials from Beijing. Chinese tariffs on American goods are around 33%.
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-china-tariffs-rare-earths-xi-meeting-8053c81a

  24. Continuing from article @8:21 am

    Me: Republicans have gone completely bat-shit-crazy. Even Kim of North Korea doesn’t get such butt kissing.
    Republicans are a total and complete disgrace to democracy and sycophancy. Even during Indira Gandhi Prime Ministership in India, when Congress leaders said India is Indira and Indira is India there was no such ridiculous sycophancy. And mind you during Indira Gandhi period corruption was ripe in every section, meritocracy was not recognised let alone awarded(hence brain drain to West but that is another story) and the country went almost bankrupt at end of reign of her son.


  25. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 8:41 am
    President Trump said Friday he would hit China with a 100% additional tariff and impose new export controls on critical software products after Beijing placed new restrictions on the export of rare-earth minerals.

    China is asking for assurances from India that heavy rare earth magnets will be used domestically and not rerouted to the US. Despite resuming light rare earth magnet exports, heavy rare earth supplies remain a constraint for India’s electric vehicle sector, impacting larger vehicle development.

    https://timesofindia-indiatimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/heavy-rare-earth-monopoly-china-seeks-india-guarantee-that-magnets-wont-be-re-exported-to-us-heres-why/amp_articleshow/124406082.cms?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17601328047883&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftimesofindia.indiatimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Findia-business%2Fheavy-rare-earth-monopoly-china-seeks-india-guarantee-that-magnets-wont-be-re-exported-to-us-heres-why%2Farticleshow%2F124406082.cms

  26. World News & Politics Patrol:

    Russia Bombers Hit Training Targets Near NATO as Baltics Prepare for Attack: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-nato-baltic-states-bombers-attack-training-10861178

    In shock move, French president reappoints prime minister who quit Monday: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/10/europe/france-lecornu-macron-political-turmoil-latam-intl

    Trump suggests Spain should be ‘thrown out’ of NATO over defence expenditure disagreements: https://www.euronews.com/2025/10/10/trump-suggests-spain-should-be-thrown-out-of-nato-over-defence-expenditure-disagreements

    Venezuela asks U.N. for emergency meeting over U.S. military actions, saying it expects “armed attack” soon: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-un-emergency-session-us-military-actions-armed-attack/

    Ukraine to Receive Skyranger Air-Defense Systems Funded With “Hundreds of Millions” of Seized Russian Assets: https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-to-receive-skyranger-air-defense-systems-funded-with-hundreds-of-millions-of-seized-russian-assets-12370

    Johnson says House will remain closed until shutdown ends: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5549384-johnson-house-closed-government-shutdown/

    Democrats fume as Mike Johnson cancels third week of votes: https://www.axios.com/2025/10/10/democrats-house-mike-johnson-votes-shutdown

    White House Flips Out After Trump Loses Nobel Peace Prize: https://newrepublic.com/post/201607/white-house-reaction-trump-loses-nobel-peace-prize

    Melania Has Been Secretly Working With Putin for Months: https://www.thedailybeast.com/melania-has-been-secretly-working-with-putin-for-months/

    Pentagon agrees to host Qatari F-15 fighter jets and pilots at Idaho air base: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hegseth-announces-new-qatari-air-force-facility-idaho-following-partnership-gaza-peace-deal

    Wall Street tumbles to its worst day since April after Trump threatens more tariffs on China: https://apnews.com/article/stocks-markets-rates-ai-f2c8bcc1f46043ab504cf4b0281e3401


  27. C@tssays:
    Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 7:38 am
    https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/10/11/redbridge-group-54-46-to-labor-open-thread/#comment-4609737

    The PV of the two major parties, well Labs and Libs/ Nats is down to a combined 63%.
    Though I suppose shit lite, even if centrist, blue Libs lite Labs smell of liberal rather than direct or social democracy, is better than full of shit.
    I do hope the opposition sorts itself out, and with the crossbench presents more of an alternative to the returned Aus fed gov from 2025.
    After all progressing/ advancing Australia, fair, through ideas, promises, policies isn’t limited to any particular party.
    Besides for most on shore beats near shore or off shore, be it governance (NACC, campaign finance reform, FoI, mandatory and binding referendums for more direct democracy), power$hift, climate, inequality/ inequity, health …
    I’ll be interesting where the various ICJ/ ICC cases go, even Denial to Euphrates River, eastern Med Riviera, ceasefire in the Holy Land or not.

    Once you said ‘shit light’, my reply is 94.

  28. C@tmomma @ #21 Saturday, October 11th, 2025 – 7:57 am

    The Albanese government has already approved 31 fossil fuel projects, and more than that are waiting, even as renewables overtake coal as the top source of electricity. By Mike Seccombe.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/environment/2025/10/11/labors-slate-fossil-fuel-approvals

    If this article doesn’t make you re-think your opinion of Labor’s fossil-fueled priorities then I don’t know what would …

    Before it won the 2022 federal election, the Labor Party promised stronger action to curb climate change. Since then, it has approved coal and gas projects that will emit a cumulative 6.5 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide.

    That is an amount roughly equal to 15 years of Australia’s total current annual emissions, according to recent analysis by the Climate Council.

    In total, 31 new projects or extensions of existing projects have been waved through: 27 by former environment minister Tanya Plibersek and four by the man who replaced her, Murray Watt.

    There are even more in the pipeline. In addition to those 31, the Climate Council report released a few weeks ago identifies another 38 new or expanded coal projects seeking federal government approval. Collectively, they would produce more than 5.7 billion tonnes of coal over their lifetimes, equivalent to more than 14 years of current production. In some cases, they are planned to continue operation well beyond 2050, the date by which Australia is committed to achieve net zero carbon emissions.

    Also, I used to give Plibersek the benefit of the doubt that she was simply being rolled by the party on her environmental decisions – but perhaps (as this article suggests) she was actually complicit …

    When she was environment minister, Plibersek put off making a decision on Woodside’s application to extend the project. A cynic might think the deferral was politically advantageous, allowing the Albanese government to maintain the focus on the Coalition’s wildly expensive and impractical nuclear power plan, rather than on the incongruity between Labor’s own words and deeds relating to the climate crisis.

    Once the election was won, Watt wasted little time lighting the fuse on Woodside’s carbon bomb. He granted the 40-year extension sought by the company, albeit with conditions intended to protect the rock art.

    Even if you think these new – and unnecessary – projects will not produce quite the massive amounts of expected emissions because of reducing world demand for fossil fuels, Labor is putting our economy – and our future – at risk by approving them, subsidizing them, and then allowing them to use offset schemes that do nothing to reduce carbon emissions except in company and government spreadsheets.

    Labor’s record on reigning in our fossil-fueled madness is abysmal. Let’s see how many posts we get with the argument “… but the COALition would be even worse”, which is like claiming that dying in a flood is better than dying in a bushfire.

  29. Trump was it 77 million? who voted for him a second time mind you democratically elected as well.
    Tens of millions of USA citizens have been trashed via globalisation and Trump is dealing with this issue as he should.
    Communist China who labor party loves in Australia hates democracy,fair trade and me sees a Cold War coming.
    Needs to be more advocacy on democracy when dealing with China.

    China screwed Trump over in his first term lied to him now it’s payback for these human rights abusing scum.

    Get the popcorn out and buckle in.

  30. Former Treasury secretary John Fraser has given a scathing assessment of Jim Chalmers’ department and the Albanese government’s climate modelling, government spending and controversial unrealised capital gains tax policy, declaring that while superannuation reform is warranted such a tax goes against everything Treasury should stand for.
    Labor luminaries from former trade union boss Bill Kelty to former prime minister Paul Keating have signalled they are against Labor’s super tax changes. Mr Fraser, who worked at the International Monetary Fund ­before returning as Treasury secretary in 2015, not only rubbished the super tax policy but also questioned Treasury’s latest modelling on the transition to net-zero greenhouse gas emissions, saying it should have included government costings.
    Cutting government spending more broadly instead of raising new taxes should be the focus, ­according to Mr Fraser, who pursued budget-repair measures as head of the department during the Abbott and Turnbull governments. “I am disappointed to see the attitudes in Treasury,” Mr Fraser told The Australian. “In 1993-94 there was a view that the federal government used to keep the ship steady. But I think they have let things go. The NDIS, I can see, is a noble cause but the waste is unbelievable.”
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/treasury-shocker-exchief-john-frasers-blast-on-tax-spending-and-climate-numbers/news-story/cdf52a018dd229a2b0cf900d271ae802?amp

  31. HBG, no one is saying the rise in PHON is coming directly at the expense of the Greens. It’s a correlation not a causation.

    Someone put forward some very compelling reasons yesterday about why the Greens have lost ground, which can be distilled to their economic and special interest policies.

  32. @William Bowe – something is not right in this sentence in your introduction: “The poll also finds an 37% for and against the notion that the Coalition should drop its support for net zero …”

  33. Pied piper

    You are too funny.

    Trump is certainly going to be in for a wild ride over the next few weeks. But it won’t be the triumph you think.

    lol……..

  34. Mostly Interested @ #38 Saturday, October 11th, 2025 – 8:59 am

    HBG, no one is saying the rise in PHON is coming directly at the expense of the Greens. It’s a correlation not a causation.

    Someone put forward some very compelling reasons yesterday about why the Greens have lost ground, which can be distilled to their economic and special interest policies.

    The Greens are a party looking for an environment in which to prosper.

  35. Meanwhile the Dems refuse to pass a budget in USA due to Trump not extending a Obamacare covid topup.
    Blackmail and the Dems must think they are dealing with a weak person err like Albanese.
    Sackings have started it will help ironically get the USA public service match fit.

    Chinas desperate acts on trade are because its economy is sinking now that the West aka USA is no longer giving it an unfair leg up.
    Labor once again has chosen the wrong horse in China.
    Labor and communists it’s a thing been going on for decades!

  36. Holdenhillbilly says:
    Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 8:57 am
    Former Treasury secretary John Fraser has given a scathing assessment of Jim Chalmers’ department and the Albanese government’s climate modelling, government spending and controversial unrealised capital gains tax policy, declaring that while superannuation reform is warranted such a tax goes against everything Treasury should stand for.

    _______________________________________________

    Former Treasury secretary John Fraser was appointed by Hockey specifically to direct the Coalition’s expenditure cutting agenda, which lay behind Robodebt among other political crimes.

    His opinion is shit as far as I’m concerned.

  37. Via the Kos Samaras “X” feed, here is a little more demographic data from their recent poll.

    Link: https://x.com/KosSamaras/status/1976746220837306642/photo/1

    In summary, Labor leads on the primary in every demographic except for Baby Boomers and voters who’se education level stops < Year 12.

    Labor also leads the Greens amongst Gen Z (roughly voters born >1996), and
    the Greens vote amongst Millenials (b.circa 1980-1996) has fallen to 13%. About 5-10 years ago, Millenials were big fans of the Greens.

  38. Former Treasury secretary John Fraser was appointed by Hockey specifically to direct the Coalition’s expenditure cutting agenda, which lay behind Robodebt among other political crimes.

    His opinion is shit as far as I’m concerned.

    Probably had a hand in turning Super into SMSF under the Liberals and possibly emasculating the Union Super Funds to advantage the Banks.

    Next they’ll be dragging out John Stone to give his ‘considered’ opinion. 🙄

  39. Hey guys I just wanted to chuck in a thought before I head off to the airport, regarding the discussion over the last few days.

    I log on to pollbludger quite a bit and every time I do I hope to see updates from newy boy about the situation in Ukraine. Why here? Because I’m a real sicko and I know that when they get posted here it annoys the living shit out of some pea brained hater who thinks this is their personal cigar lounge.

    It took me a while to settle on a theory as to why pp is here. Anyway, that’s it.

    Take care folks.

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