Federal polls: Newspoll, Resolve Strategic and RedBridge Group (open thread)

A mixed picture for Labor, but three new polls concur in having One Nation up and the Coalition down.

Three big new poll results, a recurring theme being a surge in support for One Nation at the Coalition’s expense:

• The Australian reports Newspoll has Labor’s lead out from 56-44 to 58-42, with the Coalition recording its worst primary vote in the history of the series, which goes back to 1985. Labor is steady at 36%, with the Coalition down three to 27%, the Greens up one to 13% and One Nation up one to 10%. Both leaders’ personal ratings have deteriorated: Anthony Albanese is down four on approval to 45% and up four on disapproval to 50%, while Sussan Ley is down three to 32% and up five to 49%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister unchanged at 51-31. The poll was conducted Monday to Thursday from a sample of 1264.

• Nine Newspapers has the monthly Resolve Strategic poll, which has Labor’s two-party lead narrowing from a blowout 59-41 to 55-45. The primary votes are Labor 35% (down two), Coalition 27% (down two), Greens 11% (down one) and One Nation 12% (up three). Anthony Albanese is up one on approval (or to be precise, good plus very good on “performance in recent weeks”) to 44% and steady on disapproval (poor plus very poor) at 45%; Sussan Ley is up three on both, to 41% and 32%; and Albanese leads 38-26 on preferred prime minister, in from 41-26. The biggest movements on the breakdowns are by gender, with Labor down seven among women to 31% and up three among men to 39%, last month’s result being clearly the more orthodox of the two. The poll was conducted Tuesday to Saturday from a sample of 1800.

• The Financial Review yesterday brought its second RedBridge Group poll since the election, the first having been in late June, which has Labor at 35% (down two), the Coalition on 30% (down one), the Greens on 11% (steady) and One Nation on 11% (up two). Labor’s headline two-party lead of 53.5-46.5 is their weakest in any poll since the election, but it’s partly down to respondent-allocated preference flows: applying flows from the election would have it at about 54.5-45.5. The poll had a long field work period, from August 19 to September 8, and a big sample of 5326. Breakdowns by age cohort, gender and location consequently have some meat on their bones: the biggest movement is a seven-point shift form Labor to the Greens among “Gen-Z”, which I take to mean 18-to-34, putting them at 38% and 31% with the Coalition on just 18%. UPDATE: Full report here, including breakdowns for the four biggest states.

The other big story on the polling front of late has been the emphasis placed by now former Coalition front-bencher Jacinta Price on a suggestion by Kos Samaras of RedBridge Group that Labor’s two-party vote among the Indian dispora might be as high as 85%. Samaras later clarified that a “more appropriate characterisation” would have it in the “mid-60s”. This would seem consistent with some more robust data points that have been doing the rounds since:

• The Co-operative Election Survey from before the May election gave Labor a primary vote advantage over the Coalition of 45% to 34% among those of “south Asian” ethnic identity.

• A survey of Indian-origin residents conducted by YouGov for the Carnegie Institute before the 2022 election had it at 43% to 26%, translating to about 47% to 29% upon exclusion of the 9% uncommitted. The former had a national sample of 4012, which presumably encompassed a south Asian sub-sample of about 300, while the latter had a sample of 800.

• Roy Morgan has aggregated its polling among respondents born in India and China going back to mid-2023, which finds both distinctive as major party voters as well as leaning to Labor. Compared with a Morgan average over the period that I calculate at Labor 31.9%, Coalition 36.2%, Greens 13.1% and One Nation 5.5%, the result among Indian-born respondents is Labor 45%, Coalition 39%, Greens 8% and One Nation 2%, which I estimate to be about 56-44 to Labor on two-party preferred; and among Chinese-born respondents, Labor 48%, Coalition 34%, Greens 11% and One Nation 1%, which I make at 61-39. There were 1332 respondents in the Indian-born sample and 738 in the Chinese.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. The Utah Governor is releasing more information about Robinson, but says there will be even more details to come on Tuesday US time.

    Cox said the suspect, who was once a straight-A student, appeared to have “radicalized” after dropping out of Utah State University — and seemed to spend a lot of time on “dark places of the internet.”

    Robinson was living with a romantic partner who “was shocked” to learn about the shooting at a crowded event at the Utah Valley University campus last week and who has been cooperating with authorities, Cox said.

    The partner, whom investigators believe did not have any prior knowledge of the shooting, “is transitioning from male to female,” Cox said Sunday. He said authorities could not say whether that was relevant to the suspect’s motive.

    “We’re trying to figure it out. I know everybody wants to know exactly why and point the finger. … I just want to be careful,” Cox said Sunday on CNN.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/14/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-motive/

  2. China is losing USA is winning.
    The globalists are on the back foot throughout the West with their open borders,soft on immigrant crime,worship of communist dictatorships etc and trashing people living in Western countries.
    Free trade a fantasy all the left can offer is violence and love of Hamas etcetc

  3. One shortcoming of the anti immigration cohort flocking to PHON, is that they can’t count.

    This analysis from Kos Samaras is probably too accurate to convince the noisy rump.

    Australia stands apart from the Anglophone democracies we so often compare ourselves to. Unlike the United States, born from revolution, or the United Kingdom, shaped by centuries of civil strife, our nation emerged relatively peacefully through federation.

    This gentler birth has allowed three powerful undercurrents to shape our national character: mass immigration, urbanisation, and compulsory voting.

    Today, these forces are reshaping our political landscape in ways the Coalition appears unable or unwilling to grasp.

    Consider this striking parallel: today, roughly 30 per cent of Australians were born overseas, almost identical to the proportion in 1891. We have, quite literally, been here before. Yet, each wave has transformed us anew.

    From the post-war influx that brought millions from war-torn Europe, to John Howard’s pivotal shift from family reunion to skilled migration programs that have brought millions of new Australians since the late 1990s, immigration has been our constant companion.

    In our most recent polling, among diverse Australian communities that speak a language other than English at home, the Coalition’s two-party preferred vote sits at just 35 per cent. Its primary vote is 24 per cent.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/the-3-demographic-shifts-sealing-the-coalition-s-fate-20250911-p5muf0

  4. C@tmomma, Monday, September 15, 2025 at 5:33 am:

    I see The Australian confidently states that the Coalition has recorded its worst ever primary vote in the wake of the sacking of JNP. Hmm, no thoughts about whether it could be instead, Indian-Australians jumping off the Coalition boat in the wake of JNP’s inflammatory comments about them? Just a thought.

    The TPP blowing out for Labor to 58-42 ought to have been a clue for them in interpreting the Coalition’s worst ever PV.

  5. Kos salad seems to forget it’s the 2.2 million non residents in Australia with work rights that’s a major issue.Also 100,000 not being kicked out by the Federal Labor government even though they have exhausted appeals and are eligible for deportation.

    Me thinks Kos has never gotten over being called wog in the playground!

  6. “‘My conscience is clear’: Prince Harry on Ukraine, his family and the media:
    Exclusive: The duke talks about the cost of war, his portrayal in the press and boxing as the Guardian joins him on a visit to Kyiv”
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/14/my-conscience-is-clear-prince-harry-on-ukraine-his-family-and-the-media

    … The aim of

    Prince Harry’s

    visit is to promote the work of the Duke of Sussex’s Invictus Games Foundation (IGF), and to celebrate the recovery and rehabilitation of the thousands of veterans there who have suffered life-changing injuries since the war with Russia began three years ago.

    Because of the sheer numbers of wounded, Invictus has become increasingly well-known in Ukraine, and Harry, somewhat surprisingly, has achieved cult-hero status…

  7. pied pipersays:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 7:20 am
    Kos salad seems to forget it’s the 2.2 million non residents in Australia with work rights that’s a major issue.Also 100,000 not being kicked out by the Federal Labor government even though they have exhausted appeals and are eligible for deportation.

    Me thinks Kos has never gotten over being called wog in the playground!
    中华人民共和国
    You should stop hanging around playgrounds with that “whistle” PP.

  8. Good Morning! Here’s Your Daily Local Ish News and Views Roundup

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    Support for Pauline Hanson’s One Nation has surged to a record high of 12 per cent after weeks of rancorous debate about immigration as the Coalition plumbs the depths of political unpopularity in the latest Resolve Political Monitor.
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    Australians are marking down the Albanese government for its handling of immigration amid a debate about how best to manage the country’s population growth, as one in every two voters polled says the permanent migration rate remains too high.
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    As thousands protest immigration in London, some in the Liberal Party, but not all, want to emulate Nigel Farage’s rise in the UK. Patricia Karvelas
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    Price wasn’t racist, but she did expose what turns off voters. Parnell Palme McGuinness
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    Will a Farage-style quake rock Australia? First, we must pass the Cyclone Price test. Nick Bryant
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    ‘March for Australia’ shows how economic injustice fuels the far-right. By Carl Rhodes
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    Charlie Kirk’s death raises fears of ‘beginning of a darker chapter’ for US violence. Social media and widespread availability of lethal weapons make this era more dangerous than the 1960s – and the violence may increase.
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    Labor will announce its 2035 emissions target this week. Here’s how it could shape Australia’s next decade
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    The key measure of success for the prime minister when he unveils Australia’s 2035 emissions reduction target this week will be an absence of scorn. Alan Kohler
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    Major renewable energy and tech projects such as wind farms and data centres will receive fast-tracked planning approval from the NSW government under a new authority aimed at speeding up major commercial investments into the state.
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    Why this defence treaty with a Pacific neighbour matters just as much as submarines.
    Jennifer Parker Defence and national security expert
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/why-this-defence-treaty-with-a-pacific-neighbour-matters-just-as-much-as-submarines-20250914-p5muvq.html

    Australia and Papua New Guinea to ‘totally integrate’ military in defence treaty, minister says.
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    From Ghost Shark to Ghost Bat, Australia finally enters the age of drone warfare.
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    Defence minister says Henderson naval shipyard south of Perth ‘very much an Australian sovereign capability’ but admits US will use it too
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/14/a-facility-for-them-labor-says-wa-shipyard-to-be-used-by-us-for-sub-maintenance-as-it-commits-12bn

    ‘Time to stop talking and start building’: The plan for 8000 new homes along Parramatta Road
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/time-to-stop-talking-and-start-building-the-plan-for-8000-new-homes-along-parramatta-road-20250913-p5muqp.html

    Politicians are pushing AI as a quick fix to Australia’s housing crisis. Those wheels are already in motion elsewhere in Australia. Tasmania is developing an AI policy, and South Australia is trialling a small-scale pilot for specific dwelling applications to allow users to submit digital architectural drawings to be automatically assessed against prescribed criteria.
    https://theconversation.com/politicians-are-pushing-ai-as-a-quick-fix-to-australias-housing-crisis-theyre-risking-another-robodebt-265062

    Kellie Sloane rules out NSW Liberal leadership spill despite Speakman’s Kiama woes
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/sloane-rules-out-leadership-spill-despite-speakman-s-kiama-shock-20250914-p5muvm.html

    Kellie Sloane has ruled out moving a spill and James Griffin isn’t eager. Alister Henskens is thought to lack the numbers. So, for now, the leader might be safe
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/14/the-question-for-the-nsw-liberals-after-the-kiama-drubbing-is-can-anyone-do-better-than-mark-speakman

    Melbourne’s growth suburbs are a disaster, but one place offers hope.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/melbourne-s-growth-suburbs-are-a-disaster-but-one-place-offers-hope-20250912-p5mui8.html

    The Victorian machete bin mystery and the answers behind prison walls
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/the-machete-bin-mystery-and-the-answers-behind-prison-walls-20250910-p5mu1u.html

    Victorian councils are being told they have to supply before-and-after photos of damaged roads to be eligible for federal government flood recovery funding. However, they say the application process is a “bureaucratic nightmare” because pre- and post-event “condition evidence” is required.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/buloke-shire-flood-funding-pot-holes-delays-unsafe-roads/105733714

    Wages in Western Australia are going up faster than the rest of the nation, but Perth houses remain out of reach as mortgage costs and stamp duty paint a dire picture for aspiring home owners.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/western-australia/wage-surge-fails-to-ease-wa-s-housing-crisis-crunch-20250912-p5mul1.html

    Britain will ‘never surrender flag’ to far-right protesters, UK PM Keir Starmer says. PM condemns attacks against police, racist intimidation of minorities and use of flag to instil fear
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/14/britain-far-right-protesters-flag-keir-starmer

    Analysis: Labour MPs will hope Starmer’s words after far-right rally signal shift in tone
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/14/labour-mps-keir-starmer-no-10-statement-far-right-rally-london

    Romania intercepts Russian drone in second NATO airspace violation.
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    Why Putin won’t end his war against the West. The Russian president has pegged his political survival to a continuous confrontation with America and its allies.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/why-putin-wont-end-his-war-against-the-west/

    EU floats ‘creative’ new way to send billions of euros of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine. Replacing seized assets with EU bonds could allow Brussels to tap Russia’s frozen assets to fund Kyiv’s war effort.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-frozen-russian-assets-war-in-ukraine/

    Trump is no ‘strongman’ when it comes to Russia or Israel. If other democracies don’t step up, anarchy awaits. Putin and Netanyahu are creating chaos in the vacuum left by a weak US president. But there are still ways to foil them. Simon Tisdall
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    President Donald Trump has FBI Director Kash Patel’s back, defending the embattled bureau director in an interview with Fox News on Saturday in response to criticism over the investigation into the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/13/trump-kash-patel-investigation-00563054

    President Donald Trump’s already brass-knuckled push for red-state redistricting is taking on an increasingly apocalyptic valence among MAGA stalwarts following the killing of Charlie Kirk.
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    Today, the NBN is getting a huge upgrade. Here’s what you need to know.
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    From location to keystrokes, Australian workers’ data is being gathered by employers – with little privacy protection.
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    The federal press gallery is ceding power to the Albanese government
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  9. A good contribution by the Polish FM, but it is frustrating to see all Ukraine’s allies point at each other and say “only with you as well”:

    “Polish foreign minister urges allies to consider intercepting Russian drones over Ukraine”
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/09/14/7530849/

    Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski has suggested that Western allies should consider intercepting Russian drones and missiles in Ukraine’s airspace after Russian UAVs violated Polish airspace.

    Three and a half years into the full scale war, “considering” should have well and truly happened by now.

  10. “Have to laugh at the hypocrisy daily of labor /Greens on here screaming racism when they are on about white people daily.Racists!”

    Go and do some research on what racism actually is. Your comment above is pig ignorant.

  11. Thanks, C@T

    ‘Victorian councils are being told they have to supply before-and-after photos of damaged roads to be eligible for federal government flood recovery funding. However, they say the application process is a “bureaucratic nightmare” because pre- and post-event “condition evidence” is required.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/buloke-shire-flood-funding-pot-holes-delays-unsafe-roads/105733714
    =======================
    Somewhere between $2 and $3 billion is required to catch up on national pothole maintenance. It is a serious issue costing lots of car repair money.

    Councils seeking to scam the Feds by waiting for a ‘flood’? And doing a bit of blame shifting with ‘bureaucratic nightmare’?

    Tell me it ain’t so!

  12. Cartoon Time!

    Joe Benke

    Marija Ercegovac

    Megan Herbert

    England’s patriots are on an epic quest for clicks: the Stephen Collins cartoon

    Ella Baron on Elon Musk and the ‘Unite the Kingdom’ rally

    Martin Rowson on Labour’s problems with Keir Starmer and Peter Mandelson

    Arend Van Dam

    Vladimir Kazanevsky

    Marian Kamensky

    Christo Komarnitski

    From the Internet

    ‪Mrs. Betty Bowers‬ ‪@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social‬
    Just to be clear: Brian Kilmeade *did not* endorse euthanizing homeless people. He advocated MURDERING over 700,000 of them.
    And on a network that has been *beside itself* over the murder of just one man this week.

    Hoodlum ‬ ‪@nothoodlum.bsky.social‬
    The left has to tone down their violent rhetoric?

    Enjoy!

  13. Let’s see here Trump 3.5 years left approx,Vance at least 4 most likely 8 given the trash that resembles the democrats.
    Trump will go harder at ripping apart the woke west hating globalists given the reminder of his own assassination escape regarding last weeks murder of a republican legend!

    Europe needs to put boots on the ground not hide like cowards from Russia.

  14. World News & Politics Patrol:

    Ukraine Reportedly Blows Up Russian Rail Lines, Wipes Out Fuel Trains Supplying the Front: https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-reportedly-blows-up-russian-rail-lines-wipes-out-fuel-trains-supplying-the-front-11638

    Ukraine Destroys Russian Navy Control Base in Occupied Crimea: https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-destroys-russian-navy-control-base-in-occupied-crimea-11631

    Boris Johnson calls for European troops on Ukrainian soil, tells Russia to ‘bog off’: https://kyivindependent.com/just-get-on-with-it-boris-johnson-calls-for-european-troops-on-ukrainian-soil-tells-russia-to-bog-off/

    Gov. Cox Preaches Peace. Trump Demands Revenge: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/gov-cox-preaches-peace-trump-demands

    Kirk suspect ‘not co-operating’ with authorities, governor says: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gvrw2pgedo

    Trump Says ‘Smart People Don’t Like Me’: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-says-smart-people-dont-like-me/

    Miller Says He and Trump Will Use Law Enforcement to ‘Dismantle’ the Left After Kirk Shooting: https://www.commondreams.org/news/stephen-miller-dismantle-the-left

    ‘Just kill ‘em’: Fox host’s ‘sick’ suggestion for dealing with homeless spurs calls for his firing: https://www.pennlive.com/news/2025/09/just-kill-em-fox-hosts-sick-suggestion-for-dealing-with-homeless-spurs-calls-for-his-firing.html

    Israel lets Hamas official leave Gaza while group tells civilians not to evacuate: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r111dvdvigg

  15. #weatheronPB
    Like an ant I peer,
    closely at the far away,
    to see the stillness.

    It’s there if I look,
    among the magnificent,
    sunny symphony.

  16. Miller Says He and Trump Will Use Law Enforcement to ‘Dismantle’ the Left After Kirk Shooting:
    ————————
    Not even bothering to preface with “radical”? Is it so indoctrinated now that it’s superfluous? Anyone in the left, or liberal is the enemy of the state?

    Not there yet, but it’s heading there fast, when Democrat governors will have some impossible choices to make.

  17. 40+ campus shootings and the right try and turn this one into a civil war. The sooner MEGA is relegated to the trash can of history the better.

    What is interesting is the dark corners of the MSM and social media trying hard to light the flame.

  18. School funding: Time to break the mould and build a new model

    https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/09/school-funding-time-to-break-the-mould-and-build-a-new-model/

    “A deep contradiction has developed between Australia’s values and the way our schools are funded.

    At the National Press Club, Prime Minister Albanese declared: “On the 3rd of May, the Australian people voted for Australian values; for fairness, aspiration and opportunity for all.”

    Yet our education system no longer reflects these values. Among OECD nations, Australia now has one of the most socially segregated school systems. More than 80% of students from disadvantaged families attend public schools, compared with just 12% in Catholic schools and 8% in independent schools.

    Australia’s performance on international tests such as PISA has steadily declined since 2000, with widening gaps between advantaged and disadvantaged students. Too many young people are underachieving, their potential wasted. Our funding model is clumsy, costly and wasteful – designed more by political compromise than by principles of fairness or efficiency.”

  19. Thanks C@t and Hh.

    Alan Kohler’s written a strange article this morning, even by his standards. I won’t fact check all of it, it would take all day. Instead, I will just focus on the nuclear part. He has massively overstated the significance of China’s nuclear build. China has missed all of its recent nuclear targets and reached the renewable targets way ahead of schedule. While they are building more nuclear power stations than anyone else, it is dwarfed by the scale of the renewable rollout, as shown below:

    Back here in Australia, renewable electricity is going gangbusters this morning. At 8.30, there was 71.1% RE on our main grid, the NEM, with a further 20% of wind and solar being curtailed:
    https://explore.openelectricity.org.au/energy/nem/?range=1d&interval=5m&view=discrete-time&group=Detailed&show=curtailment_wind,curtailment_solar_utility

  20. Traditional custodian readies for ‘challenge’ over North West Shelf gas project extension

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/traditional-custodian-fights-north-west-shelf-approval/105770306

    “A Murujuga traditional custodian is threatening legal action against the federal government, after it approved the extension of Australia’s biggest gas project, Woodside’s North West Shelf, until 2070.
    :::
    Mardathoonera woman and Murujuga traditional custodian Raelene Cooper described the approval as “disgraceful” and said she had instructed her lawyers “to put the Minister on notice that this decision may have breached his statutory duties and international legal obligations.”
    :::
    Ms Cooper said she believed industry and government would not be able to protect heritage while the project continued operations.”

  21. Documents reveal unauthorised sediment releases at Blackwater Coal Mine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/blackwater-coal-mine-contamination-sediment/105769922

    “An investigation into a central Queensland coal mine shows it was releasing unauthorised sediment for up to 15 years at four separate locations.

    Run-off from the Blackwater Coal Mine, 196 kilometres from Rockhampton, was released into creeks in the Fitzroy Basin which feed into the Great Barrier Reef.

    Environmental lobby group Lock The Gate initially reported the matter to Queensland’s pollution hotline and later obtained documents from the investigation under right-to-information legislation.”

  22. Bystander

    “With all due respect, I don’t think that says very much for you as a person. Try looking at it from the perspective of his wife and young family and how they must be feeling.”

    That’s a perfectly fine standard to set, if you’re able to apply it consistently, which you haven’t and won’t.

  23. Doesn’t she read the news?
    ———————————-
    She consumes a balanced diet of Advance Australia Facebook feed and Sky after Dark. Who has time for consuming the “news” when it is all leftist socialist woke immigrant gay trans Albo propaganda? And her time is a piece of wax falling on a termite, who’s choking on the splinters.

  24. From C@t’s links at 7.32am.

    March for Australia’ shows how economic injustice fuels the far-right. By Carl Rhodes.

    From the article “The causes being marched for were anti-immigration, nationalism and anti-wokeness.”

    Really! So you stop immigration, who is going to do the work? Nationalism, does that include first nations people? Wokeness, a word that probably means looking out for one another.

    Australia already has a long standing but sadly fading system for addressing inequality.

    Join your Union.

  25. For all the noise about what an effective communicator Kirk was, I viewed him debating kids at Oxford last night and they handed his arse to him on every occasion. He consistently confused, ‘what he felt’ with facts throughout. I cannot understand how this guy was of any significance. He had a third rate mind at best! Not at all charismatic either. For the most part, the audience was laughing at him

  26. Granny….
    Like others in the Cave, I usually ignore the Morley Mouth but sometimes his/her comments are just so stupid one cannot help making a dig.
    Just a few posts ago the Galleria Man was going on about a (possible) wonderful 7-8 years ahead under a MAGA Fascist-style government in the US. In the next breath he is urging the US (I presume) to attack Putin. So, dictatorship of the right all bright and shiny, but any other kind of dictatorship, evil, evil.
    Oh, and those concerned about Perth being a target in with the basing of US subs here, don’t worry. Since the days of Senator Jo Valentine and others of the Green lot, we have been a Nuclear Free Zone.

  27. Morning all. Thanks for the roundups Cat and HH.

    Some of the takes by the news reporters I really struggled with. Like McGuiness saying Price was NOT racist??

    The polls are no worse than the Liberals deserve. They have failed to come to terms with changes in the world and Australia’s electorate evidenced in May 2025.

    Pied Piper thinking its all Susssan Ley’s fault is laughable. Ley had a terrible week last week but I don’t think it was her fault. Price obviously spoke without authority and refused to take her racist comments back. Ley was correct to sack her, but the damage was done.

    The Liberal’s problem is, where is there a more credible leader on the conservative side? Its either past failures or newcomers without gravitas. The cupboard is bare. The most credible conservative politicians are Teals.


  28. Bizzcansays:
    Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 11:01 pm
    newy boysays:
    Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 10:23 pm
    “Trump is no ‘strongman’ when it comes to Russia or Israel. If other democracies don’t step up, anarchy awaits:
    Putin and Netanyahu are creating chaos in the vacuum left by a weak US president. But there are still ways to foil them”
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/14/donald-trump-russia-israel-vladimir-putin-benjamin-netanyahu

    ______________________

    European Union + UK has a population over 500 million; has a total GDP close to the USA; while various members have a production cost advantage closer to China.

    It is simply a lack of collective will, and the choice to be dependent on the US, that the affairs of the Mediterranean northward are not totally decided by the EU+UK.

    Bizzcan
    It is simply a lack of collective will, and the choice to be dependent on the US, that the affairs northward of Australia are not totally decided by the Australia.

  29. GrannyAnny says:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 9:22 am
    From C@t’s links at 7.32am.

    March for Australia’ shows how economic injustice fuels the far-right. By Carl Rhodes.

    From the article “The causes being marched for were anti-immigration, nationalism and anti-wokeness.”

    Really! So you stop immigration, who is going to do the work? Nationalism, does that include first nations people? Wokeness, a word that probably means looking out for one another.

    _____________________________________________

    All three of these “causes” are emotional. Including immigration. Ask any of these people the slightest factual detail about Australia’s immigration program and they wouldn’t have the slightest idea. All they see are brown-skinned people and call them all “Indians”, regardless of whether they are Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Nepalese, Burmese, Bangladeshi or Indian. Or people who have been here for generations but just have the wrong tint to their skin.

    Nothing more than grievance that life has not dealt them a good enough hand or unfounded fears they will lose what they have – dressed up in a selective distorted patriotism.

  30. Pied Piper responded to my Kos Samaras article.

    There goes my theory it is a harmless bot – more likely a more sinister AI response generator based on a toxic Grok trained LLM. Surely a human posting such tripe would have been defenestrated by now.

  31. On road funding:

    “ Victorian councils are being told they have to supply before-and-after photos of damaged roads to be eligible for federal government flood recovery funding. However, they say the application process is a “bureaucratic nightmare” because pre- and post-event “condition evidence” is required.”
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/buloke-shire-flood-funding-pot-holes-delays-unsafe-roads/105733714‘
    =======================
    Yes the Council is at fault. Lots of Councils try to “cheat” the system in this way.
    Yet the system itself is broken.

    Rural Councils do not have the ability to raise enough revenue to maintain the length of roads they are responsible for. Nor do State or Federal governments give them adequate funds to make up the difference.

    As I have said before recently, Australian governments are not collecting enough revenue from motorists to maintain the system. State and local governments don’t have the legal power to fix that. The old system of rego and fuel excise is broken. It only collects about two thirds of the required revenue.

  32. pied piper says:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 6:46 am
    China is losing USA is winning.

    Very obviously, the reverse is true. The China economy is larger than the US. China totally dominates in so many critical areas….drone technology and production, ship-building, chip tech, renewable energy tech, installation and capacity, EV production, rare minerals processing…to name just a few.

    The era of US domination is over. We are now watching them tear themselves to pieces. They will very soon stand completely alone having rejected even their closest allies in Europe and the anglophone countries.

    The USD is in the process of losing its reserve status…a development being hastened by Trump’s trade wars. The US financial system is losing its central, dominant place and all the advantages that has conferred on US businesses. The US is on the brink in economic, financial, political and strategic terms.

    There is every chance the Republic will disintegrate.

  33. Keith Kellogg is clearly Trump’s designated ‘good cop’, although I seriously doubt how far inside Trump’s circle he is:

    “Trump’s envoy Kellogg: 19 drones in Poland can’t have been an accident, Putin is pushing boundaries”
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/09/13/7530746/

    Keith Kellogg, US President Donald Trump’s Special Envoy for Ukraine, has said he does not believe the Russian drone attack on Polish territory was an accident and stressed that Ukraine is not going to lose the war…

    … He also insisted that Russia will not win its war against Ukraine.

    “Ukraine is not going to lose this war,” Kellogg said.

    He acknowledged that “the Ukrainians are the leaders of the world in drone technology”, significantly outpacing the United States.

    Kellogg also said that a complete halt of Chinese support for Russia would lead to a very quick end to Moscow’s aggression against Ukraine.

    “If you look at China and Russia together, Russia is the junior partner. The Chinese have got the economic strength, they’ve got the military strength, they’ve got the history clearly behind them and the leadership behind them as well. And I think that if China cut off support for Russia today, the war would be over tomorrow.”

    He does make a good point on China’s complicity in Putin’s genocide of Ukrainians.

  34. pied piper says:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 8:00 am

    12 more years of MAGA?

    If this transpires we can be very sure the US will cease to exist. It will disintegrate.

  35. China Sets 2025 Car Sales Target to Rise 3%
    China Total Vehicle Sales
    China has unveiled a two-year work plan to stabilize growth in the auto sector, targeting sales of approximately 32.3 million vehicles in 2025 — up around 3% year-on-year, according to Xinhua. The plan, jointly issued by eight government departments including the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, projects sales of new energy vehicles (NEVs) to reach around 15.5 million units in 2025, marking a year-on-year increase of approximately 20%. Other targets include steady growth in auto exports and a 6% rise in the added value of the auto manufacturing industry in 2025. By 2026, the industry is expected to sustain robust growth, with improved efficiency, quality, and scale. According to the latest data from the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM), total vehicle sales rose 12.6% in the first eight months of 2025, while NEV sales surged by 36.7%.
    21 minutes ago

  36. Further to Hack’s comments that China is obviously winning over the USA under Trump (agreed), things are going to get a lot worse for USA without poicy change, which won’t happen till at least after 2028.

    Trump’s hamfisted diplomacy is costing US manufacturers a lot of big contracts. In the past week Denmark and Portugal both confirmed they had chosen other (non US) manufacturers for multi-billion dollar contracts that were previously going to US firms. India halted a huge ($150 billion) contract with Boeing for new airliners.

    This doesn’t show up in economic stats yet, but it will in the next few years. The US economy will not grow as forecast. Economic stats tend to be “lag indicators” of reality, being six to eighteen months behind real world economic conditions when published. It is too soon to see the damage Trump is doing to USA, but we will.

  37. “Zelenskyy: Russian facilities in Primorsk significantly damaged, Ukraine keeps an eye on Ust-Luga port”
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/09/14/7530858/

    President Zelenskyy:

    “The most effective sanctions – the ones that work the fastest – are the fires at Russia’s oil refineries, its terminals, oil depots. We have significantly restricted Russia’s oil industry, and this significantly restricts the war. Russia’s war is essentially a function of oil, of gas, of all its other energy resources.

    I thank the special forces of the Security Service of Ukraine, who did a great job in Primorsk recently, hitting Russia’s largest oil terminal on the Baltic Sea. There is substantial damage; everything has been verified. And this is tangible for the enemy. Our special forces are also keeping an eye on the port of Ust-Luga and all other Russian points of access to the world market.”

    For context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Primorsk

  38. Socratessays:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 9:32 am
    On road funding:

    “ Victorian councils are being told they have to supply before-and-after photos of damaged roads to be eligible for federal government flood recovery funding. However, they say the application process is a “bureaucratic nightmare” because pre- and post-event “condition evidence” is required.”
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-15/buloke-shire-flood-funding-pot-holes-delays-unsafe-roads/105733714‘
    =======================
    Yes the Council is at fault. Lots of Councils try to “cheat” the system in this way.
    Yet the system itself is broken.

    Rural Councils do not have the ability to raise enough revenue to maintain the length of roads they are responsible for. Nor do State or Federal governments give them adequate funds to make up the difference.

    As I have said before recently, Australian governments are not collecting enough revenue from motorists to maintain the system. State and local governments don’t have the legal power to fix that. The old system of rego and fuel excise is broken. It only collects about two thirds of the required revenue.
    中华人民共和国
    +1

    I would only add that other States should force Council Amalgamations – as Queensland did nearly 20 years ago. That halved Local Governments in QLD and gave the newer larger Councils, especially in Rural areas, an economy of scale and rates base to better support not only roads but other LG services.

  39. Oakeshott Countrysays:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 9:46 am
    Upnorth
    What about them Panfers?
    中华人民共和国
    In the Top 8 cobber and a good win over the Warriors. Is the dream still alive in Oakeshott Country?

    Just on that – with the two major football codes in Australia – a serious Question.

    Say the NRL Grand Finals is for argument sake Canberra Vs Storm, should the Grand Final still be played in Sydney?

    Same with the Southern Code. Say the Grand Final is Brisbane Vs GWS, should the Grand Final still be played at the MCG?

    This is the real issue that is probably occupying more “thinking space” for the average Australian than Immigration.

    And why the hell is the first Test of the Ashes being played in Perth and not the Gabba? How is Starc going to get a wicket on the first ball???

  40. Upnorth

    I was working in north Qld for QTMR when the Goss government introduced those reforms to amalgamate Qld LGAs. They were a big success.

    On the road maintenance problem, Qld is one of the biggest losers of the current system. They have both long lengths of rural roads and a large rural population so lots of traffic on them. End result is a huge road maintenance burden.

    Since the High Court case threw out Victoria’s attempt to implement a road user charge for EVs, no State can do this. We need a Federal framework to allow States to establish realistic road user charges (for all vehicles). These could be in place of rego and fuel excise tax.

    The charge would be linked to vehicle weight, emissions and kns travelled for each vehicle, paid annually.

  41. Upnorth

    On footy, maybe yes in the NRL. However in AFL you are forgetting that the purpose of the “national” competition is to channel money from interstate into keeping afloat bankrupt and incompetently run Melbourne footy clubs. (Demons, Kangaroos etc).

  42. UpN
    Other targets include steady growth in auto exports
    ——————————–
    Well, I am in the market for vehicles atm, no rush but looking. I can tell you that Chinese manufactured dealerships are working hard for the sale. European/Korean alternatives – not so much.

  43. Pegasussays:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 8:53 am
    School funding: Time to break the mould and build a new model

    https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/09/school-funding-time-to-break-the-mould-and-build-a-new-model/

    ______________________

    My favourite articles are the ones that need to obfuscate the facts in order to make their points.

    To quote #1:

    “In 2023, Bacchus Marsh College received $17,631 per student – the Schooling Resource Standard. The grammar school received $24,437 – half from governments, half from fees.”

    Oh, so the grammar school got only $12,200 per student, about one third less than the college.

    Quote #2:

    “For example, families of Balwyn High School and Carey Baptist Grammar School in Melbourne are at similarly high levels of socio-educational advantage. In 2023, Balwyn High School’s total recurrent income per student was $16,255, while Carey’s was $42,196, 81% of which came from fees.”

    Ah, so the grammar school here only received $8,000 per student, less than half from the nearby highschool?

    “Most private schools already receive close to or above 80% of the SRS, so the additional cost would be less than many assume.”

    Not by the looks of the schools cited…

    ***

    Actually, its a really strange article all up. It argues that private schools should received more public funding on the deal they don’t charge fees, and let people choose to go to them freely. Using Sydney as an example, wouldn’t this just cause western Sydney public schools to empty out as students flood east, leaving western Sydney school funding even worse off?

  44. I think NSW government has paid approximately $10m for the NRL GF this year.
    Unless things have changed V’landys keeps threatening to put it up for tender but the NSW government always shells out.

  45. The AFL GF is locked in at the MCG for (?) decades and should never be moved.
    —————————————
    Yeah, absolutely, gotta help out those struggling Melbourne city clubs.

    But seriously, I like what they do in European soccer finals. Home and away prelim finals and then a preselected GF host location (although I am sure the Crows fan would like it to be more like the EPL 😉 ). Time for Melbourne to share.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr_uHJPUlO8


  46. sprocket_says:
    Monday, September 15, 2025 at 7:01 am
    One shortcoming of the anti immigration cohort flocking to PHON, is that they can’t count.

    This analysis from Kos Samaras is probably too accurate to convince the noisy rump.

    Australia stands apart from the Anglophone democracies we so often compare ourselves to. Unlike the United States, born from revolution, or the United Kingdom, shaped by centuries of civil strife, our nation emerged relatively peacefully through federation.

    This gentler birth has allowed three powerful undercurrents to shape our national character: mass immigration, urbanisation, and compulsory voting.

    Today, these forces are reshaping our political landscape in ways the Coalition appears unable or unwilling to grasp.

    Consider this striking parallel: today, roughly 30 per cent of Australians were born overseas, almost identical to the proportion in 1891. We have, quite literally, been here before. Yet, each wave has transformed us anew.

    From the post-war influx that brought millions from war-torn Europe, to John Howard’s pivotal shift from family reunion to skilled migration programs that have brought millions of new Australians since the late 1990s, immigration has been our constant companion.

    In our most recent polling, among diverse Australian communities that speak a language other than English at home, the Coalition’s two-party preferred vote sits at just 35 per cent. Its primary vote is 24 per cent.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/the-3-demographic-shifts-sealing-the-coalition-s-fate-20250911-p5muf0

    Sprocket
    Kos missed out on couple of important points.

    White Australia policy was introduced when Australia became a federation
    (About the White Australia policy It was based on the existing laws of the colonies. The aim of the law was to limit non-white (particularly Asian) immigration to Australia, to help keep Australia ‘British’.
    Immigration Restriction act, 1901
    https://share.google/Xi0SOiQysK9v3Q0qc
    )

    So White Australia policy was enacted for fear of non-whites coming as immigrants.
    Hence, the mass migration after WW2 was from Europe, which gelled with Australia’s immigration policy of Whites only) because Europe was completely devastated at that time.
    Hence, the Social security system, which was designed before WW2(due to depression) and after WW2 was designed and implemented without any consideration and thought for non-whites because they did not exist in Australian census.

    There is this argument on PB that Whitlam did not want Vietnamese boat people as refugees because they were anti-communists because he was cultivating relationship with murderous Chinese Dictatorship at that time. IMO, although White Australia policy was dismantled completely in 1972, a lot of ALP MPs and Whitlam were influenced by White Australia policy since their birth or since they emmigrated to Australia. Hence, resistance to accept Vietnamese boat people.
    Fraser accepted Vietnamese boat people and Lebanese as refugees because that was screwing with the psyche of ALP MPs. (You know that Vietnamese boat people and Lebanese people did not know English and their integration into Australian was very tough. The Australian government put in lot of effort and funds to improve their English speaking skills.

    Moving forward, when did the nature of Australian immigration policy changed. It did when Hawke government implemented non-discriminatory immigration policy.
    Bang! that was beginning of non-whites coming as legal immigrants.
    Howard as Opposition leader thought he can play race card and win election by saying Asian migration should be stopped but great man Bob Hawke came out strongly against Howard and was able to successfully label as a racist. That was starting point of Social security system when it was also used by non-whites.(I understand Vietnamese and Lebanese might have used that system but that was miniscule when compared to whole society)

    Yes, Howard realised his mistake and apologised to Asian community and after becoming PM ratcheted up skilled migration quota keeping the immigration settings same. Also, he cut funding to Australian Universities and told them to increase their international students quota to fund their funding gap.
    These two policy decisions benefitted one community more than any other community in particular because they were skilled, can speak very good English and came as International students in droves and that was people from India.
    The rest is history.

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