Three big new poll results, a recurring theme being a surge in support for One Nation at the Coalition’s expense:
• The Australian reports Newspoll has Labor’s lead out from 56-44 to 58-42, with the Coalition recording its worst primary vote in the history of the series, which goes back to 1985. Labor is steady at 36%, with the Coalition down three to 27%, the Greens up one to 13% and One Nation up one to 10%. Both leaders’ personal ratings have deteriorated: Anthony Albanese is down four on approval to 45% and up four on disapproval to 50%, while Sussan Ley is down three to 32% and up five to 49%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister unchanged at 51-31. The poll was conducted Monday to Thursday from a sample of 1264.
• Nine Newspapers has the monthly Resolve Strategic poll, which has Labor’s two-party lead narrowing from a blowout 59-41 to 55-45. The primary votes are Labor 35% (down two), Coalition 27% (down two), Greens 11% (down one) and One Nation 12% (up three). Anthony Albanese is up one on approval (or to be precise, good plus very good on “performance in recent weeks”) to 44% and steady on disapproval (poor plus very poor) at 45%; Sussan Ley is up three on both, to 41% and 32%; and Albanese leads 38-26 on preferred prime minister, in from 41-26. The biggest movements on the breakdowns are by gender, with Labor down seven among women to 31% and up three among men to 39%, last month’s result being clearly the more orthodox of the two. The poll was conducted Tuesday to Saturday from a sample of 1800.
• The Financial Review yesterday brought its second RedBridge Group poll since the election, the first having been in late June, which has Labor at 35% (down two), the Coalition on 30% (down one), the Greens on 11% (steady) and One Nation on 11% (up two). Labor’s headline two-party lead of 53.5-46.5 is their weakest in any poll since the election, but it’s partly down to respondent-allocated preference flows: applying flows from the election would have it at about 54.5-45.5. The poll had a long field work period, from August 19 to September 8, and a big sample of 5326. Breakdowns by age cohort, gender and location consequently have some meat on their bones: the biggest movement is a seven-point shift form Labor to the Greens among “Gen-Z”, which I take to mean 18-to-34, putting them at 38% and 31% with the Coalition on just 18%. UPDATE: Full report here, including breakdowns for the four biggest states.
The other big story on the polling front of late has been the emphasis placed by now former Coalition front-bencher Jacinta Price on a suggestion by Kos Samaras of RedBridge Group that Labor’s two-party vote among the Indian dispora might be as high as 85%. Samaras later clarified that a “more appropriate characterisation” would have it in the “mid-60s”. This would seem consistent with some more robust data points that have been doing the rounds since:
• The Co-operative Election Survey from before the May election gave Labor a primary vote advantage over the Coalition of 45% to 34% among those of “south Asian” ethnic identity.
• A survey of Indian-origin residents conducted by YouGov for the Carnegie Institute before the 2022 election had it at 43% to 26%, translating to about 47% to 29% upon exclusion of the 9% uncommitted. The former had a national sample of 4012, which presumably encompassed a south Asian sub-sample of about 300, while the latter had a sample of 800.
• Roy Morgan has aggregated its polling among respondents born in India and China going back to mid-2023, which finds both distinctive as major party voters as well as leaning to Labor. Compared with a Morgan average over the period that I calculate at Labor 31.9%, Coalition 36.2%, Greens 13.1% and One Nation 5.5%, the result among Indian-born respondents is Labor 45%, Coalition 39%, Greens 8% and One Nation 2%, which I estimate to be about 56-44 to Labor on two-party preferred; and among Chinese-born respondents, Labor 48%, Coalition 34%, Greens 11% and One Nation 1%, which I make at 61-39. There were 1332 respondents in the Indian-born sample and 738 in the Chinese.
So Lib PV at 27% in 2 polls.
This comes on top of the Kiama by-election result (albeit a state result, but still). Tough week for Ley this week.
OK. Open Q to the site.
What is driving the One nation vote upward?
“… Labor’s primary vote remains static at 36 per cent, as minor parties and independents benefit from Australians turning away from the major parties.”
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Fixed it:
Labor’s primary vote remains static at 36 per cent, as minor parties and independents benefit from Australians turning away from the Coalition.
And just as there might be a whiff of spill in the air, it is 10 years to the day since Turnbull rolled Abbott.
Oh, the joys of “Put your onions out”…
Such a long post I missed the thread jump.
Fess in response to your 8:31 pm post, I’ve been thinking about the over the top response to this assassination.
Whilst it is way too soon to see how this plays out, I am reminded of the saying ‘never let a crisis go to waste’. The Christian right, because this is really what the MAGA movement has been co-opted by, see this an opportunity to normalise their outrage to the new standard of public discourse. This is the way they are trying to move what we know as the Overton window as far to the right as they can, the window of discourse is now being set to a point where anything which is not right woke (the irony) is a thought crime or crime against civilization.
We’ve see this before in the recent past (again the irony), this is what Iran and Afghanistan achieved with their theocratic approach to government. The loss of education for women in Afghanistan is a great example of how the window of discourse was moved in that country.
Trump himself is rapidly becoming an empty shell, he hasnt lost his grip on the Republican party mainly because the Republican party (again the irony) is actually RINO but not in the form that is so often used by MAGA. It has become the Christian Theocratic Party of the Republic. This is why even as Trump begins to rapidly fail as an old man the CTPR will move from strength to strength.
The same battle is currently taking place in the Australian Liberal Party, and really I think they have nearly succeeded. The only thing saving Australian from the Christian Theocratic Liberal Party is that Australians on the whole are not of the pentecostal brand of Christian that the Americans are. The good old CofE, a large component of our Judaeo Christian ethos, might actually save us in that the CofE dont really believe in all that god stuff.
Nothing will be settled in the US until we see what occurs in the 2026 midterms. I dont mean the vote, or the swing, or the turn out, or any of that nonsense. I mean the response of the CTPR. Will the Trump led MAGA in name only CTPR effectively declare the election null and void in some very overt fashion (keeping an eye on the blue city invasions going on right now).
nadia88 @ #NaN Sunday, September 14th, 2025 – 8:49 pm
My guess is MAGA. They do seem to be running a pretty ferocious social media campaign across the Anglosphere at the moment, and Ley isn’t bending the knee to them as much as they like, so, who else can they turn to?
What is driving the One nation vote upward?
Maybe SAD tragics who swallow the line that the Liberals aren’t far enough to the right?
If you repeat the line often enough eventually there will be people who will buy it.
nadia88 – the current main centre right party is in the post election doldrums, so a few people drift off just for that reason, plus they have a leader from the more moderate wing of the party and that causes a few to drift right (same reason Cory Bernardi thought he had a minor party opening when Turnbull was leader), and immigration is in the news, which drives a few more to One Nation, there being no other obvious home for the angry right.
MI:
Thanks, a very interesting comment. I definitely agree that MAGA are the real RINOs.
I’m not so convinced about Trump as the empty shell. Will there be free and fair mid-terms is something that remains to be seen.
These rallies are the thing that is driving One Nations vote up and it is coming from the coalition’s primary vote. No leader of the coalition could condone the anti-immigration marches but a fair chunk of their remaining supporter base agrees with them.
However, if an LNP leader was to support the rallies, they would lose just as many in the other direction and do long term harm to the what remains of the party brand. Howard’s 1988 dalliance with anti-Asian immigration took years to downplay.
It also helps that other right wing groups are not generally named when the polls are taken, so people who were still voting for TOP or the LDP mostly just say One Nation.
Seat warmer will be responsible for many more dud polls and with Federal labor addicted to high numbers coming in resulting in house prices through the roof alongside rents Ley aka seat warmer will look stupid attacking labor on the same things Price stood for.
Ley is labor lite.
Albanese is in negative net approval ratings in Newspoll and Resolve
Newspoll: Anthony Albanese is down four on approval to 45% and up four on disapproval to 50%
Resolve: 44 approval and disapproval 45
Yeah but I think the problem with one nation is it’s Pauline’s way or the highway and usually they tend to self-destruct that’s why I tend to look at damn popularity is kind of fleeting same thing is reform people say there are a good position but what happens when there’s more scrutiny on Farage he has to run the government and he doesn’t look like the person that are likes responsibility
People sometimes wonder if the anti-immigration political wave will take off in Australia. Not much sign of that in the last election, and compulsory voting would dilute that anyway, but more fundamentally I think Peter Brent identified why that’s not so likely. My spin on it is, when the Coalition “stopped the boats” and Labor maintained the same practices, that meant there is no longer images of the refugee boats which people might conflate with all immigration following a hostile media campaign. A student trying to extend their Visa just doesn’t get the same visceral response.
https://insidestory.org.au/selling-immigration/
“A crucial component is missing in a lot of commentary of Sunday’s demos, particularly those that link it with movements overseas. It’s a factor that matters for our general politics, and particularly Peter Dutton’s failure to capitalise on fear of foreigners in May’s election. It is the virtual absence of uncontrolled border-crossing into this country. Again quoting myself from August last year, “per-capita ‘illegal immigration’ numbers in America (in 2023) are roughly ten times what ours were at their peak (in 2013); and ours are close to zero today. Comparisons with Europe are similarly one-sided.”
Australia has long had a large immigration program relative to comparable countries. The Albanese government’s actions — limiting overseas students, for example — suggest an acknowledgment that earlier settings were too lax. Importantly, immigration, for all the benefits in the medium term, cannot help but negatively impact housing. And there are and always have been racist attitudes towards people of colour.
But in the United States and much of (the former Western) Europe, evidence of years of accumulated unauthorised arrivals is glaringly apparent in many citizens’ everyday lives, in towns and cities, in for example buildings and hotels used for housing them. Over here, people who arrived by boat are as rare as hen’s teeth, and of course impossible to pick out on the street. There is quite a bit of dodgy visa manipulation and overstaying, which adds to numbers and is evident in our capital cities. And, yes, conflating “legal” and “illegal” is almost de rigueur in anti-immigration rhetoric. The internet and Covid have fuelled radicalisation.
But we have nothing like the challenges that face the United States and Europe — and that, in many ways, including at the political level, is a good thing.”
You’re correct, pp:
“Ley aka seat warmer will look stupid attacking labor on the same things Price stood for.”
Ley would look stupid if she started spouting replacement theory and calling Indian migrants and public servants dole bludgers.
Quentin – Pauline’s “her way or the highway” is not help by the standard of candidates that One Nation manages to elect either. Most have been double baked Fruit Cakes.
Albos WA give away has SFA to do with AUKUS, it’s about building a base for US crewed & nuclear armed boats..
SMH..
Australia has invited the United States to use its planned Henderson defence facility to maintain its fleet of nuclear submarines, which could ease Trump administration fears that America has too few of the boats in the water at any one time to sell them under the AUKUS pact.
WA just became a nuclear target
Mrmoney @ #2396 Sunday, September 14th, 2025 – 8:46 pm
That’s an excellent price assuming installation included. Very well done.
Timbo ….yes installed and they will manage and monitor my solar panels for 5 years in that price
Kirsdarke says:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 8:54 pm
nadia88 @ #NaN Sunday, September 14th, 2025 – 8:49 pm
OK. Open Q to the site.
What is driving the One nation vote upward?
My guess is MAGA. They do seem to be running a pretty ferocious social media campaign across the Anglosphere at the moment, and Ley isn’t bending the knee to them as much as they like, so, who else can they turn to?
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I’m actually thinking it may be the group who uses the name “Advance”.
They were def active at the Prahran by-election earlier this year, although “immigration” didn’t feature as an issue for a state by-election.
Someone is pushing race/immigration issues atm and stirring things up in the country. We had the protest rallies a couple of weekends ago, the Bondi Beach incident and further rallies over the weekend.
We had an election 5 months ago where immigration featured prominently.
* The ALP policy was to maintain the current inflow
* Libs wanted to cut it down to 160k, &
* PHON even lower.
The end result was that the Labor policy won. Their policy is actually around the 190k mark, meaning about 330k come in per annum and about 140k leave permanently each year. ie: Net Overseas Migration (NOM) of around 185-190 thousand p.a.
Someone, or some organisation, is currently stirring up trouble.
Sceptic
Some of us remember the Cold War when we were told WA was always a nuclear target.
There was the US Navy communications base at Exmouth and HMAS Stirling has long been a R and R port for US nuclear submarines.
And who can forget the regular visits to Fremantle by the giant US aircraft carriers?
Sure to have been shadowed everywhere by Soviet submarines.
I doubt anything has changed. Except the Russians might lack the resources of the old Soviet Union.
Never kept me awake at night.
nathsays:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 8:02 pm
Where do these RWNJ find these submissive women? I haven’t come across many.
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They grab the first one they find. You are obviously to choosy.
Leroy says:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 8:58 pm
nadia88 – the current main centre right party is in the post election doldrums, so a few people drift off just for that reason, plus they have a leader from the more moderate wing of the party and that causes a few to drift right (same reason Cory Bernardi thought he had a minor party opening when Turnbull was leader), and immigration is in the news, which drives a few more to One Nation, there being no other obvious home for the angry right.
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Thanks Leroy.
So going on the basis that the LNP base skews Conservative then it looks they don’t like Ley (given she is from the moderate wing). So to punish her, they park their vote – via pollsters – with PHON, thereby driving the Lib vote south of “30”.
I know the site keeps going around in circles with this, but keeps coming back to the same conclusion. I think she may be on her way out. Maybe before Christmas, perhaps in the New Year. I don’t think she’s going to last as leader.
Thanks also for your advice re: paywall access.
The Oz is about the only poll I am reliant on someone at PB to dig up. I probably should get a subscription! I’ll have a look at the paywall bypass info you provided.
Back in the 1950s and 1960s, there was little basis for serious disagreement between the Liberals and the Country Party, as it then was. L F Crisp, in his classic text Australian National Government, dealt with them in a single chapter, as “The Parties of Town and Country Capital”. Such issues as led to disputes were capable of being resolved by compromise, and there wasn’t much disagreement on social issues such as race, abortion, gay rights, the environment etc, because the Liberals and the Country Party (and the ALP for that matter), had policies which reflected what was at the time a pretty broad social consensus, backed by widely shared religious doctrine.
But now things are different. People are walking away from organised religion. Attitudes on those social issues have flipped in the cities, not so much in the country. Culture wars which might work well in the country are now poisonous in the cities. Migrant families who have arrived in the last 50 years won’t have been socialised by family ties into voting Labor or Liberal or National Party, and that’s one reason why we shouldn’t be surprised by the decline in the major party votes. Some of them will be from countries where voting choices are primarily between candidates, and where parties are basically vehicles supporting individuals. And I suspect that far fewer people in the cities actually have relatives in the country than was the case when boomers like me were growing up.
Therefore, the problem for the non-Labor parties now is that the ideological space that a coalition leader needs to try to span is far wider now than was the case in the Menzies era. The rise of the Teals really represents a split in the coalition, but it’s at the grassroots level, rather than being formalised by the rise of a breakaway party such as the DLP. Meanwhile, there will be a constant battle between those who want to move to the right to try to prevent votes leaking away to parties like One Nation, and those who realise that such a strategy will be fatal in the cities.
And of course, all of these problems are harder to deal with when you are out of power: ideological warriors may feel they have nothing left to lose, and a party leader like Ms Ley doesn’t have the personal authority, derived from being an election winner, that someone like John Howard had.
A final thought: Australia is somewhat anomalous in having had so stable a two-party structure for such a long time. For various reasons the UK, Canada and New Zealand have all seen their party systems fragment. It’s not entirely surprising that we are seeing signs of that here now.
Billionaires will always push the xenophobia angle because it’s the easiest way to enrage and split away the petite bourgeoisie and the white working class.
Tax cuts for billionaires mean nothing to someone on 50k a year. Screaming about how you’re gonna deport non-whites because they’re the reason your mortgage has gone up, and they’re all criminal scum anyway, works.
B. S. Fairman yeah one nation candidate seemed to range from from really crazy to really stupid super crazy it’s always funny to see what type of drags decide to join one nation and then realize why people don’t like one nation
Nadia
who has been pumping up Tommy ‘ten names’ Robinson’s tires in the UK, and just called for its parliament’s dissolution despite being a Saffie who dodgied his immigration to the States? He’d be a prime suspect I believe
https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/09/14/federal-polls-newspoll-resolve-strategic-and-redbridge-group-open-thread/#comment-4598146, squeezed infrastructure, housing, wages suppression because of short-term visa holders, non-skill based migration …, the Sydney NSW protests I saw on Sat seemed to have lotsa flags, signs about religion, ‘Albo’s got to go’, …
Kirsdarke says:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 8:54 pm
nadia88 @ #NaN Sunday, September 14th, 2025 – 8:49 pm
OK. Open Q to the site.
What is driving the One nation vote upward?
If you fed up with the Liberal circus, and you can’t bring yourself to vote Labor where do you go?
Leroysays:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 9:15 pm
People sometimes wonder if the anti-immigration political wave will take off in Australia.
https://insidestory.org.au/selling-immigration/
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I hate this migration debate because it has been entirely captured by people willing to make it about race (both on the right and the left). It is a twin evil of greatly increasing social unrest in the US and UK (stoked by nativists); BUT in Australia it has overshadowed any remotely sensible discussion about migration and economics.
Based on purely the data, Australia should have the worst anti-migrant movement:
– USA had a 2023 population of 335 million and net migration of 2.8 million in 2024 – or, 1 migrant per 120 residents.
– UK had a 2023 population of 68.5 million and net migration of 431,000 in 2024 – or, 1 migrant per 160 residents.
– Australia had a 2023 population of just under 27 million and net migration of 340,000 in 2024 – or, 1 migrant per 80 residents.
Now I’m on the record for stating that Australia’s migration rate (numbers, not race) has had a severe impact on cost of living, especially through rent.
But that aside, the issue has not “blown up” here because Australia is generally a better run economy – better fiscal management; significant growth in social services provision (especially healthcare); a far less partisan culture; and likely more than anything else, COVID didn’t completely destroy us (economically or the social cost of massive mortality – aka no death trucks).
I don’t think that this race-based anti-migrant movement has a huge legs (outside the One Nation primary vote) because, thankfully, Australia’s migration surge is passing – meaning we will see slower inflation and stronger wage growth in the future as well as moderating housing rent growth.
From William above:
I take that to indicate the Indian-born segment of the electorate leans the following ways relative to the total electorate:
ALP +7
Coal +3
Grn -5
ON -3.5
Collecting up ‘right vs left’:
ALP/Grn +2
Coal/ON -0.5
That is a pretty shit ‘factual’ basis for Price saying that demographic group only votes for her opponents – never mind the even more shit political and moral basis.
Been thinking about China and they USA.
China made a bet on the energy transition. Electric Cars, solar panels, DC links, wind turbines, they invested and the are winning.
The USA is now betting on fossil fuels.
It is not about who has the biggest military, or tariffs.
It is who made the best bet.
Lately I’m thinking that Australians are relatively resistant to the MAGA wave compared to the USA and the UK because we’ve already had a dose of how much of an embarrassing freak that Tony Abbott was in 2013-15, and thus most of us are like “Yeah, no more of that, please.”
newy boysays:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 10:06 pm
From William above:
Compared with a Morgan average over the period that I calculate at Labor 31.9%, Coalition 36.2%, Greens 13.1% and One Nation 5.5%, the result among Indian-born respondents is Labor 45%, Coalition 39%, Greens 8% and One Nation 2%, which I estimate to be about 56-44 to Labor on two-party preferred;
I take that to indicate the Indian-born segment of the electorate leans the following ways relative to the total electorate:
ALP +7
Coal +3
Grn -5
ON -3.5
Collecting up ‘right vs left’:
ALP/Grn +2
Coal/ON -0.5
That is a pretty shit ‘factual’ basis for Price saying that demographic group only votes for her opponents – never mind the even more shit political and moral basis.
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As the younger demographic vote more Labor and Green than older. How does the Indian born age group demographic look. As it is the boomers that vote strongest LNP. I doubt there are that many Indian boomers relative to the rest of the Indian population in Australia. In other words if we correct for age demographics I’m not sure the Indian population are any more pro-Labor than the rest.
So if LNP want immigrants that will vote for them bring over rich old retired ones.
“Trump is no ‘strongman’ when it comes to Russia or Israel. If other democracies don’t step up, anarchy awaits:
Putin and Netanyahu are creating chaos in the vacuum left by a weak US president. But there are still ways to foil them”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/14/donald-trump-russia-israel-vladimir-putin-benjamin-netanyahu
Kirsdarke at 10:13 pm
“Lately I’m thinking that Australians are relatively resistant to the MAGA wave compared to the USA and the UK because we’ve already had a dose of how much of an embarrassing freak that Tony Abbott was in 2013-15, and thus most of us are like “Yeah, no more of that, please.””
There’s that. Australians are also, on the whole, skeptical of all politicians. The tall poppy syndrome is alive and well and helpful. If you dressed up in outfits with Scott Morrison’s picture on them from head to foot, in the manner of some of Trump’s supporters, your friends would just laugh at you.
We also have better bullshit detectors, not just confined to politics. The sorts of crooked, self-promoting preachers who flourish in the USA get very little traction here.
Finally, Australians in general aren’t too interested in the symbolic dimensions of government: they rather see it as a service delivery mechanism, and want it to be run effectively. The coalition thrived in the 50s and 60s because they weren’t overtly anti-government or greatly ideological, and seemed to know what they were doing. It was the ALP which was seen as ideological. Now, the positions have reversed.
And PHON provides a convenient place for some unhappy people to park their votes instead of flocking to a MAGA like party, unlike what is happening in the UK at the moment with Farage’s Reform. At least Pauline seems to have resisted copying the worst of the behaviour of exhibited by Trump & co.
This is the sort of BS from Ukraine’s ‘allies’ which is keeping Russia in this war to an entirely undeserved degree:
“Romania didn’t down Russian drone in its airspace because it circled back to Ukraine, Romanian defense minister says”
https://kyivindependent.com/romania-was-close-to-downing-russian-drone-before-it-returned-to-ukraine-minister-says/
They are admitting here that there would have been no risk to Romanian lives if they had shot the hostile Russian military drone down in their airspace.
The Romanians could have shot it down, but didn’t, because in the end it was only going to threaten Ukrainians, not Romanians. Some ‘ally’.
This is the sort of ‘bystander collusion’ Ukraine is dealing with here from some of its ‘allies’. Compare and contrast the help that the invader, Russia, is receiving from North Korea, Iran and China in the form of actual troops on the ground, munitions and military components.
In the world of the 2020’s, the worst thing a country can be in far too many people’s eyes is not a genocidal aggressor, it seems, but its victim.
For countries whose populations are resistant to flows of immigrants in to their countries, they sure don’t mind putting them on a fast track into their national athletics teams. Just sayin’.
PHON are harvesting the sheeple vote of those who have been stirred up by the professional agitators. Also, when the Liberal Party is no longer led by a Conservative, that’s where they are turning.
newy boysays:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 10:23 pm
“Trump is no ‘strongman’ when it comes to Russia or Israel. If other democracies don’t step up, anarchy awaits:
Putin and Netanyahu are creating chaos in the vacuum left by a weak US president. But there are still ways to foil them”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/14/donald-trump-russia-israel-vladimir-putin-benjamin-netanyahu
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European Union + UK has a population over 500 million; has a total GDP close to the USA; while various members have a production cost advantage closer to China.
It is simply a lack of collective will, and the choice to be dependent on the US, that the affairs of the Mediterranean northward are not totally decided by the EU+UK.
Right-wing freaks being interviewed by the Daily Mail being like “We don’t care about Dezi Freeman, we want money from Jacinta Allan.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086649/Dezi-Freeman-local-business.html
This is what they’re like when the gunman is someone on their side of politics.
frednk says Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 10:07 pm
In the most recent episode of his Shirtloads of Science podcast, Dr Karl interview Prof Michael Mann and Prof Peter Hotez about their new book “Science Under Siege”: https://shirtloadsofscience.libsyn.com/science-under-siege-with-prof-michael-mann-prof-peter-hotez-443
One of the Professors (I can’t remember which) made the point that the Chinese Government is made up of engineers whereas the US Government is made up of lawyers. Lawyers by their nature tend to say no to everything.
Kudos to the Chinese for looking at the implications of climate change, taking a long term view and developing their industrial policies accordingly. It’s something that’s more difficult in Western counties because of our shorter political cycles and the power of vested interests.
I think Biden did recognise that China had made the right decisions and was trying to rectify things. However, all that has been thrown out by Trump. He’s got the country going backwards.
As I’ve written before, Trump’s policies are going to Make China Great Again at the expense of the US.
Kirsdarke
Conservative towns that vote for Haines.
Pied Piper
Sussan Ley is not labor lite, having held conservative Farrer for 24 years.
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newy boysays:
Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 10:23 pm
“Trump is no ‘strongman’ when it comes to Russia or Israel. If other democracies don’t step up, anarchy awaits:
Putin and Netanyahu are creating chaos in the vacuum left by a weak US president. But there are still ways to foil them”
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This!
Calling this ‘Modi’s war’ like Trump advisor Navarro called it won’t solve anything because Modi was not involved in anyway both wars from the beginning since the these 2 wars are responsibility of US Europe. They set up the conditions of both wars.
As you can see the leaders of European countries cannot focus on the development of their own countries because of these wars.
I see The Australian confidently states that the Coalition has recorded its worst ever primary vote in the wake of the sacking of JNP. Hmm, no thoughts about whether it could be instead, Indian-Australians jumping off the Coalition boat in the wake of JNP’s inflammatory comments about them? Just a thought.
Plus, I guess, some of the more reactionary conservatives toddling over to PHON.
https://region.com.au/anu-leadership-says-theyre-now-listening-why-werent-they-before/904455/ …
Following on from bc and frednk’s posts comparing China and the US, David Fickling from Bloomberg summed it up like this:
“… right now, Beijing is offering cheap, clean power, employment, trade and a route to prosperity. Washington is offering tariffs, policy chaos, White nationalist memes and South Korean workers in shackles after a raid on an EV battery factory. This is no way to win the grand strategic contest of the 21st century.”
https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/a-tale-of-two-countries
Further, a study released last week documents a surge of overseas green manufacturing investment by the Chinese which surpasses the USD 200 billion (in current 2024 dollars) invested by the US over four years of the Marshall Plan.
“ASEAN still hosts the most projects, yet 2024 saw MENA’s share jump to over 20 % of new deals; Europe remains key for downstream batteries, while Latin America and Central Asia enter the map.”
https://www.netzeropolicylab.com/china-green-leap
Nutjob up in Northern Victoria may have committed suicide.
Stupid policing stuffed local tourism mind you farmers are doing well etc.
Have to laugh at the hypocrisy daily of labor /Greens on here screaming racism when they are on about white people daily.Racists!
Ley has the worst Liberal two party polling in Newspoll history what a dud.The reason is why vote Liberal when you are the same as labor on key issues.