The first poll since the election is the regular fortnightly Essential Research, but it does not feature voting intention, which was presumably considered superfluous in the week after the real thing. We do get leadership ratings for Anthony Albanese, who gets a six point post-election bump on approval to 50% with disapproval down eight to 39%, and, a little redundantly, for Peter Dutton, who gets insult added to injury with a ten point drop on approval to 29% and an eight point hike on disapproval to 59%. The “national mood” has improved for one reason or another: 37% now rate the country as headed in the right direction, up six from late April, with wrong track down ten to 42%.
Out of the few who had an opinion on the matter, Sussan Ley scored highest for preferred Liberal leader at 16%, followed by Angus Taylor on 12% and Dan Tehan on 7%, with 45% unsure and 20% for none of the above. The apparent swing to Labor as the election approached appears not to have reflected a dramatic change in national priorities, with 53% rating cost-of-living the most important determinant of vote choice. It is arguably telling that “wanting a stable government in an uncertain world” came second with 12%, but the result was scarcely different from 11% for health policies and 9% for energy policies and “not liking Peter Dutton”. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1137.
Boerwar says,
Blah blah blah something blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah something blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah something blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah….repeat a hundred times a day, day after day after day ad infinitum.
Boringly repetitive but I admire your stamina. Though perhaps, harness it for something a tad more productive.
Flint in general seems like basically a giant crybully. She’s meant to be a champion of the anti-woke cause, yet the most I remember of her thankfully short career is screeching “Sexist! Misogynist!” at everyone who questions her.
Pegasus?
Losers trying to tell winners how it should be done is blah blah fun.
How do you pronounce Sussan Ley’s surname?
Is it Lee?
Or is it Lay?
Because I’ve heard both.
Confessions @ #1604 Saturday, May 17th, 2025 – 5:14 pm
Maybe it is both? Just one of those words that can be pronounced either way, like how grand can be pronounced as “gran’d” or “grahnned”.
I had a look at a few news clips talking about it and most of them pronounce it as “Lee” though.
Confessionssays:
Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 5:14 pm
“How do you pronounce Sussan Ley’s surname?
Is it Lee?
Or is it Lay?
Because I’ve heard both.”
Lee, according to Wikipedia.
It was always lay but there seems to be some sort of intent to turn it into lee.
Boerwar:
This term of parliament is a watershed period for the Greens. They’re not going to get a formal partnership with Labor aka 2010.
Do they keep trying to be obstructionist and see their vote fall further?
Or do they realise that not everything that is passed by the parliament needs to be 100% perfect so long as it addresses their broad policy priorities and help the government to implement progressive legislation?
Evidence from Greens Bludgers is that the party will pursue the former.
Kirsdarke, Arange:
Barrie Cassidy says Lee.
A newsreader on the ABC (no idea of her name) says Lay.
Now that she’s LOTO we will surely know which one she prefers.
confessions
I am not hopeful. My view is that we will get another three years of destructive performative politics from the Greens.
Have we reached peak Greens? Too soon to say, IMO.
We all know how it will go.
Albo will scream ‘BLOCKERS’ if the Greens so much as ask for a meeting, then he will run to the L/NP to beg for a ‘bipartisan’ deal.
Rex Douglas says:
Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 5:27 pm
We all know how it will go.
Albo will scream ‘BLOCKERS’ if the Greens so much as ask for a meeting, then he will run to the L/NP to beg for a ‘bipartisan’ deal.
You are saying the greens have damaged themselves so badly, they have got to a point were their existence in parliament is a compete waste of time?
Speaking of Sky After Dark, Liberal MP for Casey Aaron Violi seems to be a new darling of theirs since he held on to such a marginal seat with a small swing toward him.
I gathered that because every time he’s mentioned they glaze him with that fact.
Au revoir bludgers. I’m called to the pen and the brush again, to the mallet and chisel. What an interesting few months we’ve had. I’ll be back again, anon….2 much to do now. My bludging can wait.
I would like to think that Albanese takes Larissa Waters at her word and gives the Greens the opportunity to “get shit done”.
But I have misgivings that they will continue on the path of getting shit-all done.
It’s up to Albanese to give them the opportunity; it’s up to the Greens to fulfil the obligation.
Yeah, Murray Watt lies prostrate before the mining industry. There won’t be serious action on carbon reduction with him in that role.
I met Ley a few times in my former work. She pronounces it “Lee.” It’s her ex-husband’s surname so I doubt she cares all that much.
I think the liberals a going to crucify Sussan Ley
https://thepolitics.com.au/pie-in-the-sky-harpies-rip-into-sussan-ley/
I see that the Greens and their hangers on are resorting to vicious personal attacks.
Their approach to negotiating on biodiversity legislation is to call Labor’s chief negotiator a koala killer and a climate killer. Just in case that is not enough, Albanese is accused of being complicit in genocide. Waters announces on day one that there will be no compromise on their principles. But she wants to get shit done. Kiddy language from the kiddies.
I know a Ley who pronounces it “lee”.
Boerwar says
“Kiddy language from the kiddies.”
No need to project.
You seem to be one angry person. Deep breathing or meditation might alleviate your swirling emotions.
Why on earth would I be a loser. My identity is not predicated on the success or otherwise of any political party.
The Morrison government did more damage to raw tertiary education sector with its Job Ready Graduates package than any government in history.
Stripped out funding, doubled humanities courses, artificially tried to force people into degrees they didn’t want to study. A culture war on Australians by trying remove history from our memories.
Labor is reversing all this and more via the Higher Education Accord.
Never forget who the enemy is, the reactionaries attempt to pull down society and ensure we’re all uneducated surfs.
The real issue is whether Suss-an is related to Lemonade Ley the Chalkpit Murderer.
MI
With respect, Labor’s higher education forum is actually a lame way of kicking the can down the road and avoiding meaningful reform. One of the very first things they should have done at the start of the LAST term was to repeal the job ready graduates legislation, just repeal it. Every single opinion I have read from experts in the sector said that the previous arrangements, whilst flawed, were still vastly superior to the ideological hot mess of the JRG program. Instead they’ve wasted an entire term and only now embark on a review
So whilst it’s great that they’ve proposed a one off reduction of HELP debts, they’ve still done absolutely nothing as yet about arts degrees costing over 50k, and there’s so far not much to suggest the glacial pace of reform will be any quicker this term
You have to wonder how long will the Labor faithful tolerate Albo’s visceral hatred of the Greens and thus his tendency to rather do terrible deals with the L/NP …?
I note that Innes Wilcox of CAI has called for an end to the climate wars. Industry in Australia has set its future on renewables. Will the once- great champion of Australian business pull its collective (dick) heads in and accept that renewables are here, coal is decrepit and nuclear is a bridge too far?
Big business will not tolerate the Coalition imposing their ideological stupidies on a market who has made its choice with investment and planning.
This spells trouble for Ley with the hard- Rights in the Libs and their redneck mates in the Nationals- absolute morons, both of them.
Hey H,W,P , enjoy life on the tools and a well- deserved break from helping defeat the Reactionaries here on PB. See you again in 2028. Life is good for progressive politics, ain’t it?
PS Luigi at 536pm. Your last sentence sums it up succinctly. Let’s hope so.
Rex
“…thus his tendency to rather do terrible deals with the L/NP …?”
You mean like the NACC and electoral reform …
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Labor, Coalition strike deal on electoral reform with watered-down caps and disclosure
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-12/labor-coalition-strike-electoral-reform-deal/104928032
Expect more of the same.
“The Greens in 2025 have an image problem, a perception that they are obstructive and angry. The view has been assiduously cultivated by Labor and consistently referred to in the media.
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The perception has taken root with the public…..
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The Greens eventually waved through the government’s measures, after negotiating an extra $3 billion for housing, which, as Shoebridge tells The Saturday Paper, was actually a pretty good result.
Despite this, and despite the fact the Greens managed to negotiate amendments to a raft of other government legislation, the perception is that the party is intransigent.
“We should acknowledge the rat cunning of Labor,” Shoebridge says, “in blaming three months of Greens resistance on a broken housing bill for 30 years of comprehensive failure by the Coalition and Labor.”
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The government, and the prime minister in particular, are institutionally hostile to the Greens.
Despite Albanese’s much-quoted claim that he came to parliament to “fight Tories”, he will not have to do much of that for the next three years because they will be fighting among themselves.
Instead, the Greens sources say, they will be the focus of attack, because they hold the balance of power in the Senate.
They note Albanese’s call, a couple of days after the election, to “get out of the way” of the government. They worry about his replacement of Tanya Plibersek in the environment portfolio with Murray Watt, who they see as pro-development and mining.
Says Brown: “The appointment of Murray Watt is a torpedo into the hopes of environmentalists right around Australia. It’s confrontational by Albanese.”
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“I keep reading it’s not the party of Bob Brown anymore. But when it was the party of Bob Brown, they fucking hated it just as much. When Bob stood up and took on George Bush, when he was a lone voice on Tampa, he was getting smashed. The same criticism: that the Greens are too hardline.”
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Waters presents a harder target than Bandt or Chandler-Mather, though. It’s really not a good look to assail someone who seems so nice.”
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2025/05/17/how-will-larissa-waters-reshape-the-greens
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The Greens have always been a handy scapegoat. This will not change.
Because Pageboi like so much legislation it’s complex to untangle, universities plan several years ahead and had already reconstructed their course and intake plans, along with workforce to account for the JRG package. Repealing it on the first day would have left many out of work and students high and dry. It takes years to negotiate with 40 VCs.
You can’t just tear shit down, you have to have a plan to replace it without destroying everything along the way.
Unis are still rocked by covid fallout.to simply pull the funding mat out from underneath them would have seen many go to the wall.
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Kirsdarkesays:
Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 4:27 pm
With a margin of 603 votes in the lead with 286 ballots remaining, looks like Labor’s held on in Bean.
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ALP faced challenges from independents in 5 electorates:
Bean, Freemantle, Fowler, Calwell and Clark.
ALP lost Fowler and Clark.
ALP won Bean and Freemantle in a close finish.
ALP won against L-NP in Ballarat (Nats)and Bullwinkle (Libs) in a close finish.
ALP lost Ryan to Greens in a very close finish.
Nobody knows what will happen in Calwell.
Pegasus says:
Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 5:53 pm
Boerwar says
“Kiddy language from the kiddies.”
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You mean like Waters talks shitty and the Greens got shit canned by the voters? Like how three Greens MPs were given the arse? That sort of kiddy stuff?
The Greens need to start by owning both their failures and the reasons for their failures.
They will get neither from you.
The Greens are always looking for a handy scapegoat.
Not a single Greens anywhere in Australia has taken any accountability for losing three MPs and for their House of Reps going backwards. Given a kick up the backside by his electorate, Bandt virtually gave a victory speech.
Not one Greens has taken a skerrick of accountability. You would think the Greens just won an additional 18 seats, increased their primary vote by a couple of per cent and got a historically high 2PP.
If you listen to the Greens it is all good and it is everyone else’s fault.
Ven @ #1630 Saturday, May 17th, 2025 – 6:30 pm
That should be Bendigo, not Ballarat. North of the Great Dividing Range is much more appetite for the National party here.
Still though, yes it was close. The towns to the south of Bendigo saved Labor this time around.
I felt compelled to savour May 3 once more, some five & a half hours of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtxMjAUsNlc&t=18958s
This makes up for Kerr’s dog act in ’75.
Aven
It was Bendigo and not Ballarat
Calwell is either going to end up with it being Labor versus Liberal with Labor winning on preferences from the progressive independent/other candidates or Labor versus one of the progressive independents/other candidates and thus will be saved by the Liberal preferences or if the second final candidate is Carly Moore gets a bit messier.
Two Barries, this is an intersting discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okiuDssxS4Y
From earlier about the member for Farrer – I worked in Parliament House for 14 years covering all of Susan LAY’s tenue up to that point (2014). It was always LAY as promounced by the Lib lady after Tuesday’s leadership vote.
I assume LEE is the journos bad, who are so wrong as usual, such as “Bathhhhurst” not Bathurst, then theres crap like prep not Kindy etc etc.
Is there a link to the Sky News election night Youtube coverage? I can’t find it.
Terminator:
Very interesting!
Confessionssays:
Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 7:00 pm
Is there a link to the Sky News election night Youtube coverage? I can’t find it.
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If you are seeking to find pain on Peta Credlin’s face good luck. She’s pretty tough. Not that intelligent though.
Rex Douglas @ #1625 Saturday, May 17th, 2025 – 6:07 pm
Taken up writing fairytales now, Rex Douglas? I guess it’s all you have left after the thorough repudiation of your ideology at the ballot box.
HWP
Good luck, and see you anon.
My OH was reading over my shoulder, and was a bit worried about what you were going to do with your mallet and your chisel, until I explained that you were an artist 😉
Flint’s run here in Boothby seemed half hearted. She had nothing to offer- and she seemed to know it. She was up against an accomplished woman …. and looked pretty sad by comparison.
Is it Lee or Lay. Neither it’s definitely LOL!
Indeed Fess, she even populated the suite next door on the house of reps for a while. None too friendly. Albo was there before that, his son was young and bloody noisy lol.
Many of those now pronouncing that Murray Watt is a stalking horse for the resources companies are the same as those who were sure we would have a minority government with a tug of war between the masterful political strategy of Peter Dutton and the enthusiasm of the community independents
Yet another lesson in waiting for events to play out before making confident predictions.
Torchbearer @ #1644 Saturday, May 17th, 2025 – 7:07 pm
Same here in Robertson. I always questioned why the Liberals used so many recycled candidates. Then I read today that they had a plan which was to use all their old, recently defeated MPs as a way to try and remind the electorate of who and what they were missing and to try and take back the seats before the new Teal or Labor MPs became entrenched, which happens after a couple of election cycles usually. Well that plan, like many from the Coalition, didn’t work.
The problem for the Liberals is that seats like Robertson, Bennelong, Parramatta, Boothby, Sturt are now relatively safe for Labor.
<Confessions says:
Saturday, May 17, 2025 at 7:00 pm
Is there a link to the Sky News election night Youtube coverage? I can’t find it.
enter here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcxNux-0x5E
If no2 doesn’t come up search for
sky election night no 2
It goes up to 4.